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Spider-Man 2 Has Over 30 Mistakes
Jon Sandys writes "Spider-Man 2 may have won over the critics, but the hard-nosed bastards at moviemistakes.com are listing 31 mistakes already - and no, not nitpicky stuff that's different from the comics. A scar swaps sides on Peter Parker's face and dummies are visible in hurled cars, not to mention the numerous errors involving tritium which I'm sure Slashdot readers will enjoy refuting. Read the complete listing on the Spider-Man 2 page." Also, people bitten by spiders don't generally become ultra-powerful.
In one scene, Spiderman is leaping and twirling like he's a male gymnast. Then in the next, he has a heterosexual love interest.
And I think I speak for an awful lot of people when I say that.
"Also, people bitten by spiders don't generally become ultra-powerful." Unless those people get bitten by RADIOACTIVE spiders. Why do you people even bother going to the Cinema, if you are that goddamned critical? Why were there explosions in space in Star Wars? Because, they fucking looked cool exploding in space.
Getting a feature film to be internally consistant with itself is not as easy as it seems, and it only gets harder the more shoots and scenes there are.
But there's always a chance to catch these things in editing... in fact, that scar mistake was most likely introduced when somebody took a mirror image of a shot for some reason or another, and forgot that it'd end up reversing the side of the face the scar appears. Sure, that could be fixed in editing, but if they forgot to do it... well, it ends up on that site.
Seems like the bigger the film, the more of these glitches surface as they rush to the box office.
.... it's a movie. Get over it.
And I thought the Wrath of Khan was bad...
I noticed a lot of things in the movie, like how he kept running into stuff at school, before they were going with him back to being a nerd. I just thought that maybe it was 'cause his powers weren't working, but I don't know...
plus were is the great spider-man chatter during fights? He's a smart-ass yet he's was quiet.
Like in the train, when the people were helping him. I thought I was watching power rangers for a sec, because he didn't say anything, just kept nodding, and looking at people.
but it was a great movie, regardless...
Be seeing you...
What was it he said?
"There's nothing more exhilarating than pointing out the shortcomings of others."
Less Talk, More Beer.
I beg to differ, I did indeed become ultra powerful after being bitten by a spider...
Or perhaps that was after I licked that toad...
Either way, definately ultra powerful.
... how can you even stand a single episode of Star Trek (any series)?? The bullshit meter is through the roof on those shows but you guys never complain. :P
IT'S A GOOD MOVIE, JUST ENJOY IT.
It's not anything but a movie for entertainment. It's not history, or a documentary, or even editorial commentary (F 911). It just isn't that important. I hope those that see it enjoy it.
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Alot of the errors they mentioned are typical for Friday the 13th films, where blood and guts reign and only the hardcore fans devote time to find the bloopers. One would expect better from a major action film.
My only real technical complaint was the tritium stuff. The quantity shown being used was impossible to obtain. No one, including the US or former Soviet government, has ever had that much tritium in one place like that. A few hundred milligrams is probably the most anyone has ever had. Let alone a sphere that probably had a mass of around 1-2kg. And for damn sure, if anyone did have it, the price would be so high as to be somewhere around the collective budget of the US government.
But then, what good is a microscopic amount of tritium going to be as a plot device?
"During the train scene, Spider-man's mask had gone partially black. We also see it when Spidey puts his mask back on. Yet when Doc brings him to Harry, we don't even see a patch of darkness on his mask." Isn't this obviously because Spider Man is well organized and prioritizes his laundry very highly on his daily to-do list? I mean, I can picture him in need of money and getting a Tide endorsement or something -- he'll sew a little logo on the side of his mask.
Two freaks, no foes. It takes absolutely nothing to make some people angry.
Some of these are pretty thin:
... leave it to the screenwriters.
"Plot hole: Harry tells Doc Ock that in order to find Spider-Man he must find Peter first. Doc Ock finds Peter with Mary Jane in the cafe and throws a car through the window straight at them. Any normal man would've been killed instantly, and Doc Ock doesn't know that Peter is Spider-Man. Given that Peter is his only lead on Spider-Man, it makes no sense that Doc Ock would effectively try to kill him."
I can just see some pimply faced teenager sitting in his mom's basement thinking.... "It'd only make sense that he'd act this way. if i were Doc ock, thats what I'd do. Then re-enacting the whole thing with his spiderman action figures to prove himself right." Give it a rest. It's a fictional movie about fictional characters that's incredibly entertaining. Make your lists about the gaffer screwing up, but when it comes to how a character that's got some metalic arms fused to his back would respond after throwing a car through a window at a cafe
So I'm just going to talk about something I wanted to talk about. Did anyone notice a couple of scenes that seemed to have been very distinct visual references to the Matrix? There was the "jump" scene midway through, and there was the "lying in state" bit in the subway scene. Both of those looked so clear and so visually similar to the corresponding shot in the Matrix that I almost suspect they must have been purposeful for some reason, homages or something.
Am I just reading this in?
Over 30 mistakes? that would explain why my spidey sense was tingling throughout the movie!
Thank God Sam Raimi makes all these mistakes. If he spent all his time worrying about continuity issues, his movies might not be half as entertaining.
Would you want Stanley Kubrick to make a Spider Man movie? Think about it...
Oh yes, and the soundtrack also has mistakes. Two canons are horrendously overlapped, the motif is altered by two notes in several reprisals and if you listen to it backwards it says "Jay and Silent Bob are better than Spidey".
Factual Error: When real scientists cybernetically attach themselves to an artificial intelligence, we use two, seperate, completely redundant systems to prevent ourselves from being turned evil.
The good and new comes from no quarter where it is looked for, and is always something different from what is expected.
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...no jar jar!
As much as I love the first movie, the DVD transfer has to be one the WORST I have ever seen. I stopped counting at the number of times a white dot would show up for a single frame, all through-out the movie, which sticks out like a sore thumb on the Plasma.
The story changes however, I liked (and I was a big fan of the orginal comic book.) The story was updated "for the times" to have it make more sense. Radiation -> Genetic Engineering, etc.
Peace
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At the end of the "I've changed" conversation with Mary Jane, the taxi is right next to her (you can see its roof next to her face), yet in the next shot, she has to cross the street to get to it.
Because as we all know, there is only one working taxi in New York City.
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Don't you guys get it? You're not supposed to just point out the mistakes, you're supposed to *explain how they are not really mistakes at all.* Then, you write into the letter page of your favorite Marvel comic book and claim your No Prize!
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Maybe the tritium was inside the sphere. Maybe the little metallic buckyball thing was some kind of shielding, or maybe the tritium was diluted throughout it for some reason.
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic". This is the way it should be in a comic book movie. You should just be grateful they aren't going to bring in Doc Ock II and her "virtual reality bombs".
If you want to poke closely at this, I'd be much more concerned about this mysterious method of fusion which is a self-sustaining, exponentially increasing reaction that you have to control rather than a self-defeating reaction you have to sustain. The entire advantage of fusion over fission is that if you lose control of the reaction it dies out rather than blowing up New York.
Judging by the way the objects are flying, they have their magnetic field configured about .000000000001 +- 999999999999999% degrees the wrong way with respect to vector PQ with P at the tritium/glass sphere and Q at Doc Ock's...pen15? I know this because I graphed the paths of the projectiles, accounting for gravity, camera movement, magnetic field produced by nerves inside the people, and the rotation of the earth assuming it is in that exact location in New York. And I also factored in the gravitational attraction of the lenses of my glasses and cylindrical slide rule.
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Spiders don't spin web from their wrists.
But I suppose a bit of realism here would give the movie (and comic book) an "X" rating. Would have been funny to see him net bad guys that way though...
My rights don't need management.
Then how do you explain what happened to Steve Ballmer?
Showing up to watch the movie. But then again, the Star Wars Wookie Christmas special was advertised just about as much.
I got sick of seeing Spiderman 2 when major league baseball clubs decided not to advertise the movie on the bases. I'm surprised my car can escape a gas station without having a Spiderman 2 bumper sticker affixed on a visible area of my car.
fsck the MPAA
What are you getting all worked up about? Go ahead, make a Soviet Russia joke or a hot-grits joke. You'll feel better, I promise.
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The only thing that really caught my eye was how the character with the mechanical arms moved. He walked as if they weren't there, turning around easily with them spread wide. They didn't seem light enough to just spin like that.
It was just a conflicting feel to them that threw me. On one hand they seem like big strong arms slamming through stone without any sign of slowing down. On the other hand they're being carried around without a care in the odd scene.
But while it did stand out, I was very happy with how they handled the arms overall. I think they went to noticable efforts to obey the laws of physics as much as possible without sacrificing other aspects of the film. Often one arm braces while another pushes out, for example.
I also liked the arcing on some of their heavy high-powered wiring when it was being pulled out. I don't think it'd look like that, arcing outwards but they're still trying to visualise real-world effects.
So they get my full support for putting in much more thought and detail into their physics than I expected going in. I'm willing to look past any physics-related errors at this point.
Peter Parkers physiology is more man than spider. Therefore, he should be called: Man-Spider.
You know, I try to like this site, I really do. But when some of you get all vocal about flaws in A FREAKING MOVIE I really have to wonder. Spider-Man is FICTION in case if you have forgotten. Remeber Star Trek 1 (or was it 2, I've forgotten as it is of minor signifigance) where they treat "parsec" as a unit of time instead of distance? You know how much that flaw "costed" the movie in sales? NOTHING. Drop all your notions of "science" and just watch the freakin' movie and enjoy. That's the whole point, yes? Sheesh.
Raimi put in some some cool references to Evil Dead/AOD including Ash at the theater and the camera techniques in the OR. Did anyone see any other ones?
oops sorry for not slagging the film
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,try later page but when i typed the url in my browser i had the page up in 5 secs flat.
/. effect anymore,i misll the good ole times when /. was more dangerous than a DDOS.
Same with moviemistakes when i clicked on the article link, i got a we are sorry,very busy
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That was Star Wars episode 4, Han Solo claimed he did the Kessel run in less than 10 parsecs.
Damn, I just got bit by a spider as I was out walking last night. I can't believe that I wasted the last 24 hours building a webshooter for nothing.
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Plot hole: Harry tells Doc Ock that in order to find Spider-Man he must find Peter first. Doc Ock finds Peter with Mary Jane in the cafe and throws a car through the window straight at them. Any normal man would've been killed instantly, and Doc Ock doesn't know that Peter is Spider-Man. Given that Peter is his only lead on Spider-Man, it makes no sense that Doc Ock would effectively try to kill him.
Continuity: When Peter arrives at his aunt's home at the beginning of the movie, it's night. He talks to Harry in the kitchen a few minutes later, and look at the purple balloon by Peter's head, it reflects a window with lots of light coming through it.
Continuity: During the final conversation between Spider-Man and Doc Ock, the rips in Spider-Man's suit keep changing. For instance, there is a tear on his right shoulder; for most of the scene, there is a single piece of black webbing left holding the rip together, but when Doc Ock grabs Spider-Man's arm, the rip now has two pieces of black webbing. Then it goes back to one.
Continuity: When Peter and Mary Jane are together in his apartment at the end of the film, the collar of Peter's t-shirt keeps changing positions underneath his sweater. Sometimes it is fully visible all the way around, sometimes it's higher on the left or right side, and during the closer shots it isn't visible at all.
Factual error: In the scene where Peter is saving the children from the burning building, there is no smoke from the fire. Black smoke would be bellowing out the windows. He wouldn't be able to just stand up and walk through the building.
Visible crew/equipment: On the way to the theater Peter Parker intercepts policeman chasing a couple of bad guys. At the end of that scene one of the police cars has a tremendous wreck that swings the car sideways. There is a clear shot of the driver with a black helmet on.
Continuity: During the train scene, Spider-man's mask had gone partially black. We also see it when Spidey puts his mask back on. Yet when Doc brings him to Harry, we don't even see a patch of darkness on his mask.
Continuity: Doc Ock pulls the giant sun ball and its support down onto himself, so he should be under it as they descend, yet in the final shot of him sinking into the ocean, the ball is below him and he is falling after it.
Audio problem: It's clear that due to the tentacles' heaviness, they have to made some kind of sound when moving. But yet when Doc Ock takes the tritium from Harry in his house, he leaves without making any sound at all.
Factual error: Nobody would dare to cut a metal piece with a saw without eye protection, much less in a surgical room, like the surgeon that wanted to remove Doc Ock's tentacles.
Revealing: In the scene where Doc Ock comes out of the hospital and throws a car onto another one, you can tell the man in there is just a dummy. He has no reaction what so ever. He just sits there as if nothing happened.
Revealing: In the scene at the end where Spider-Man and Mary Jane are in the big web, there is a close-up which shows the webbing behind them. We can blatantly see that it's wire wrapped in plastic of some kind to make it look like web.
Factual error: Dr. Octavius says his fusion relies on tritium and that there is only 25 pounds of the substance in the world. In reality, tritium is merely an isotope of hydrogen and is a good deal more common than that. For example, there is a large region of the North Pacific that contains tritium-rich salt water. Submitted by Phoenix
Continuity: Peter has a small horseshoe-shaped scar on his right cheek. In Dr. Octopus's lab, as Octopus is destroying the fusion reactor, they share a meaningful look and the scar has switched cheeks.
Factual error: Considering the brightness of the fusion process, Dr. Octavius has to wear special goggles to be able to see it. Yet no one else in the room is wearing such goggles or seem hurt by watching the whole process, just as at the en
Cave, wreck, and deep diver.
Fact: Movie stills contain timestamp information. If you "accidentally" created a mirror image by reversing the film, the timestamp would be backwards and the timestamp reader would complain. Somebody would notice. Therefore, mirror image shots are not accidental.
Most of the time a director selects a mirror image shot because he was unable to get the real shot he wanted (it happens in nearly every movie, but it's most noticeable when a main character has a lopsided image). In some cases, the director chooses the mirror image shot to cover up an actual mistake (e.g. the main character went left and he was supposed to go right). Sometimes it's more important to the director for a film to maintain spacial consistency than to keep scars/tatoos/whatever on the right side of the screen. However, you won't always know whether it was a coverup or if the shot was reversed on purpose. In either case, you can be assured that director knows and obviously doesn't care which side the scar is on.
OK, a lot of stuff bugged me in Spiderman2, but a few things stand in in my mind, none of which were adressed in this list.
1. How are you going to tell me a fusion reaction, what was supposedly a small sun, was drowned by water???
2. OK, so the fusion thing didn't work out, you're telling me that the technology going into those robotic arms that could instantly send wires capable of interacting with the human brain and be powered by no easily identifiable power source werent worth anything? As well as the biggest break-through in fusion energy ever? Yeah right.
3. OK, this one is a bit more nit picky... helicopters do not just go flying in between the buildings of New York like that, especially not so close to one another.
The movie was good as a whole, but a lot of the plot just didnt make sense. It doesnt seem like it would take that much thinking power to get rid of those few anomolies. Oh, and the one woman reporter asks about the super intellegent AI and Doc Ock had never even mentioned anything about the arms being intellegent!!! Why did the arms have to be intellegent at all??? Gah! Oh, and Doc Ock didn't tell whats his face how much of that gold junk he needed. He just said he wanted some. There were soooooo many technical errors in that movie and I wasnt even looking for them!
Continuity errors bore me, and I try to ignore the plot holes, but The IMDB's trivia page is often fascinating.
F911 was a fantastic movie; bout time the right wing got a taste of their own medicine.
... And here it is [Here]
Well the slashdot logo clearly says "stuff that matters"...
How the fuck can my first rating be "over rated"?
A link to the Google Cache.
"Your effort to remain what you are is what limits you."
...there's no reason why you can't have an eigenvalue of 0.23. Of course, I can't see any case where you could solve that in your head in a sophmore physics class.
Microsoft delenda est!
Generally, though immersing something in water is a pretty good way of putting something out, I don't think it would have much effect on a self-sustaining (as if such a thing were possible in the first place) fusion reaction.
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movie points out mistakes about you
If you pay attention to the angle of the car, it wasn't aimed at him - it was going to fly over his head. The car was going to hit Mary Jane, which makes Peter lunge at her to save her and causing Peter to be put into harms way.
Yes, I just saw the movie one hour ago, and I enjoyed it regardless of the mistakes.
Matt Fahrenbacher
James Tiberius Kirk: "Spock, the women on your planet are logical. No other planet in the galaxy can make that claim."
i liked the movie, but i did not like the demonization of fusion in spider man ii
in a world of smog and wars fought over oil prices (pro-iraq war people: read why iraq invaded kuwait, anti-iraq war people: read why us invaded iraq) we do not need an ultra-pop movie demonizing one of the few technologies which could save us from the petroleum age
in spider man ii, fusion can go "chernobyl", this is a fallacy
if something goes wrong with a fusion reaction, it just fizzles out, it can NEVER start a chain reaction
in spiderman ii, fusion is the megalomaniacal goal of the evil mastermind, and his obsession threatens to blow up half of manhattan... but much like that old '90s film "chain reaction", with keanu reeves, you can't blow up half of wisconsin or manhattan with a fusion reaction, noways, nohow, never
so we don't need hollywood spreading flat out wrong and fearmongering ideas about a promising technology
there is no runaway chain reaction component to fusion, please get it right hollywood... or do you like the global warming, choking on diesel exhaust, war-for-oil world we live in?
ps: fusion reactions are not super-magnets either: in the movie, anything metal got sucked towards them
pps: it WAS funny and harmless how the fusion reaction is portrayed as a miniature sun in the movie, complete with coronal mass ejections threatening doc ock's control of the reaction...
perhaps that is vaguely educational too, fusion's connection with the sun shown as a visual parable, to portray it that way
but hollywood, PLEASE: fusion is not fission, do not let forth the hounds of ignorance and fearmongering onto a promising technology, please!
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Just curious about whether or not anybody knows what the most mistake-free movies are that have way out-there concepts at their cores.
I haven't researched the movies enough, but I really liked the lack of sound in 2004, and the fact that one of the major subplots in Die Hard was that he needed to get shoes that fit, and the bad guys shot out the glass just to trap him in a tight spot... Not biggies, until you think about how many movies have sound in space, or have lots of glass windows being shot out that don't seem to hurt the nearby protagonists much.
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I'm ashamed to demonstrate how much of a SW geek I am, but...
They actually came up with a way to rationalize that one. Making a Kessel Run means navigating a particular region of space densely populated with black holes. The generic "safe" route is X parsecs long (don't remember how many.) Solo was bragging that he'd been able to navigate a route that was only 10 parsecs long rather than the typical distance, which, correspondingly, took less time.
Now, pardon me while I slink off to hide my shame.
Next thing people are going to criticize them for overdoing the "genetic" thing when they release Spiderman 3.. Dr. Connors (sp?) 'accidentaly' causes a mutation in himself by tring to splice crocodile DNA into his body with radiation to grow his lost arm back..
:) they have license to make money off of you!
It's a story of a story..
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While we bicker over a movie, what about the mistakes in real life?
1. You are free.
2. You read slashdot because you're an 'intellectual'
3. That +5 Karma you have was hard earned.
4. You don't like Britney Spears and don't use windows at all.
Excuse me, I don't mean to impose, but I am the ocean
I have a tritium-powered 'exit' sign that I use as a nightlight in my baseent apartment. Being in the basement means that if the power goes out I can't see a damned thing. The tritium-filled, phosphor-coated tubes in the plastic armor box are more than adequate to cast enough light on the room to find a flashlight.
Apparently I won't have to replace it for about 20 years! Also, if it does end up getting broken (which would take a direct sledgehammer hit by the looks of it) it would cost about $250K to clean up the house for habitation again, and I'd get a few chest x-rays' worth of curies before I got to the door.
Just so you know, I had the thing shipped to me across borders not too long ago, and it arrived on-time. I guess there's no radioactivity-detection in the air-mail chain yet.
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You guys remind me off the fat guy in the "genius at work" t-shirt that is nitpicking itchy and scratchy cartoons in the simpsons.
If you guys are supposed to be so smart wouldn't you have something better to do than nitpick hollywood schlock?
You can even see the cgi in Spiderman 2 looks like shit from the previews so don't give me any "I just like it for the technical achievements" shit either.
I bring this up because in the article he refers to the webpage authors (um, aka Jon Sandys) as "hard-nosed bastards". Dude, don't be so, um, hard on yourself there ... you're just, um, doing your job ...
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So, where you the guy in the front row of Wizard of Oz shouting at the screen "Thats BULLSHIT man, monkeys dont fly!".
"Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
You are your own worst cliche.
Ah, a fellow reader of the Timothy Zahn novels. Greetings.
that bittorrent is as popular as ever!
More probable is that the geeks had no plans afterwards and went and saw it again.
I still say bittorrent would have been more economical...
She's not dead, you know. She's just undergoing treatment for anorexia.
Windows has over 1000. What's new.
I paid $8.50 to go see it.
Like having a Chicago El train go through Manhattan???
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shut the heck up. It's a movie. There's flaws, there's fun, there's lots of things. grow up and get a life.
you didnt know cops in new york always wear helmets?
1. There is no elevated trains in downtown/midtown Manhattan 2. Shots are frequently switching between a background of midtown, brooklyn, queens, and the village. 3. There is no D'Agostinos on St. Marks 4. etc, etc, etc
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Headline says 30 mistakes, article says 31 :^O
I could look past the qantity of tritium, and all the other stuff, there was only one thing that buged me... Ok, lets drop a fusion reaction (essentially a miniature sun) into the river and there wont be a massive explosion of steam...
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
I have a real vague recollection as a kid of seeing a DC comics bad guy called "the spider-man",with the hyphen, and he was very round and fat with extra legs. But that's all I remember, and it might not have even been DC.
Just do text for link.
:) ;)
Remember to post as html formatted.
Plus you need to use <br> tags to get line-breaks. Use two to get a space between lines...
Simple really
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How the fuck can my first rating be "over rated"?
It's a way for troll mods to abuse the system. If they don't like you (for whatever reason) they can mod you overrated. Since "Overrated" never shows up in meta-mod, there's no fear of reprisal. No fear of reprisal means they just keep getting mod points to abuse. Kapesh?
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That Peter Parker wasn't bit by a radioactive dung-beetle. Just imagine what his super powers would be then..
..........FULL STOP.
That a pizzaria in NYC would take a deliver order 44 blocks away at lunchtime - even without a delivery guarantee.
I am not, nor have ever been, a comic book guy.
That said, I've watched various incarnations of comic books on TV an movies, and I've watched Spiderman since I was a kid.. From the old campy 70s show to the movies..... hey, this movie has the same problem.. WHAT THE FUCK IS HE SWINGING FROM? Conveniently located blimps?
I digress.. Hey, anyone remember Spidey on "the electric company?"
I digress again..
In some show, somewhere, I saw Peter Parker making up little canisters of the webbing, and stocking his suit up.. It was something he cooked up in his lab (being a genious scientist) to keep with the Spider theme.. Kind of like Batman keeps his Bat theme going..
Anyhow, in the movie, it's apparent that creating webbing is one of his powers.
So my question.. In the original comic, does the webbing actually come from his body, or is it an invention of Peter Parkers?
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Also, people bitten by spiders don't generally become ultra-powerful.
WHAT?! They don't?! Why didn't you tell me this sooner?!
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"Derp de derp."
Here's what the site said: Updated today Plot hole: Harry tells Doc Ock that in order to find Spider-Man he must find Peter first. Doc Ock finds Peter with Mary Jane in the cafe and throws a car through the window straight at them. Any normal man would've been killed instantly, and Doc Ock doesn't know that Peter is Spider-Man. Given that Peter is his only lead on Spider-Man, it makes no sense that Doc Ock would effectively try to kill him. votemap Updated today Continuity: When Peter arrives at his aunt's home at the beginning of the movie, it's night. He talks to Harry in the kitchen a few minutes later, and look at the purple balloon by Peter's head, it reflects a window with lots of light coming through it. votemap Updated today Continuity: During the final conversation between Spider-Man and Doc Ock, the rips in Spider-Man's suit keep changing. For instance, there is a tear on his right shoulder; for most of the scene, there is a single piece of black webbing left holding the rip together, but when Doc Ock grabs Spider-Man's arm, the rip now has two pieces of black webbing. Then it goes back to one. votemap Updated today Continuity: During the train scene, Spider-man's mask had gone partially black. We also see it when Spidey puts his mask back on. Yet when Doc brings him to Harry, we don't even see a patch of darkness on his mask. votemap Updated today Continuity: When Peter and Mary Jane are together in his apartment at the end of the film, the collar of Peter's t-shirt keeps changing positions underneath his sweater. Sometimes it is fully visible all the way around, sometimes it's higher on the left or right side, and during the closer shots it isn't visible at all. votemap Updated today Factual error: In the scene where Peter is saving the children from the burning building, there is no smoke from the fire. Black smoke would be bellowing out the windows. He wouldn't be able to just stand up and walk through the building. votemap Updated today Visible crew/equipment: On the way to the theater Peter Parker intercepts policeman chasing a couple of bad guys. At the end of that scene one of the police cars has a tremendous wreck that swings the car sideways. There is a clear shot of the driver with a black helmet on. votemap Updated today Continuity: Doc Ock pulls the giant sun ball and its support down onto himself, so he should be under it as they descend, yet in the final shot of him sinking into the ocean, the ball is below him and he is falling after it. votemap Updated today Audio problem: It's clear that due to the tentacles' heaviness, they have to made some kind of sound when moving. But yet when Doc Ock takes the tritium from Harry in his house, he leaves without making any sound at all. votemap Updated today Factual error: Nobody would dare to cut a metal piece with a saw without eye protection, much less in a surgical room, like the surgeon that wanted to remove Doc Ock's tentacles. votemap Updated today Revealing: In the scene where Doc Ock comes out of the hospital and throws a car onto another one, you can tell the man in there is just a dummy. He has no reaction what so ever. He just sits there as if nothing happened. votemap Updated this week Revealing: In the scene at the end where Spider-Man and Mary Jane are in the big web, there is a close-up which shows the webbing behind them. We can blatantly see that it's wire wrapped in plastic of some kind to make it look like web. votemap Updated this week Factual error: Dr. Octavius says his fusion relies on tritium and that there is only 25 pounds of the substance in the world. In reality, tritium is merely an isotope of hydrogen and is a good deal more common than that. For example, there is a large region of the North Pacific that contains tritium-rich salt water. Submitted by Phoenix votemap Updated this week Factual error: Considering the brightness of the fusion process, Dr. Octavius has to wear special goggles to be able to see it. Yet no one else in the room is wearing such goggles or seem hurt by watching the whole process, just as
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A teenager was arrested early Wednesday in a California theater showing "Spider-Man 2" after a projectionist using night vision goggles saw him using a camcorder to make an illegal copy of the superhero sequel.
"Also, people bitten by spiders don't generally become ultra-powerful."
God forbid we use suspension of disbelief at a movie based on a comic book.
I told myself about 5 minutes in, if applied so much as a 5-year-old's grasp of science to this movie, I'd be getting dragged away by security for creating a disturbance. Stop a self-sustaining fusion reaction by dumping it in a river indeed.
What the heck is a 'sig'?
Okay, if you drop a super-hot mass of incandescent gas into the Hudson, you're going to get one big fuck-off jet of super-heated steam gushing out, like a mini-explosion. Spidey and MJ should have had the flesh boiled from their bones in a matter of seconds.
But, otherwise I really enjoyed the movie.
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Also, people bitten by spiders don't generally become ultra-powerful
I think that everyone knows that. It's Hollywood, it's based on a comic book that is pure fiction, and it's meant to be entertainment. Just detach from reality and enjoy the show.
For those of you who want reality, there's documentaries. I believe that "reality T.V." is socially-engineered entertainment.
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The main thing that annoyed me about spiderman was the way he webbed in and out of certain scenes. The clock tower had no buildings taller than it surrounding it (as you can see as the scene plays out). Yet Spiderman was able to shoot a web onto a nearby imaginary building taller than the clock tower and swing in.
Also the scene where he saves mary jane has several inconsistencies. When he is thrown out of the building he is launched maybe 100ft from the building, yet when he swings back he is maybe 20ft from where his web is attached to when he enters the window. Then we he leaves and picks up mary jane he jumps straight up, webs then is somehow built up enough momentum to be on the upstroke of a swing, yet again attached to another imaginary building. Also as a correction to a submitted mistake, when Doc Ock is underwater, he is still where he was when he entered the water. The fusion rig is obviously upside down people. Man people need to get their eyes examined.
A Fatal OE Exception has occurred, Sig will now reboot.
Also, people bitten by spiders don't generally become ultra-powerful
of course not! the spider has to be radioactive, silly.
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I don't think people should try to hold movies to any kind of "reality standard". Even the most grounded movie story is told by men wearing makeup that techies spent an hour carefully lighting. People stand on boxes to look taller, directors tell actors to step farther apart so that their distance will reflect their relationship, and no one ever has to go to the bathroom.
No one ever points it out as a "mistake" in movies, but Spider-Man 2 took a step closer to reality by choosing to not have every car that was overturned explode in a huge ball of flames.
FWIW, Sam Raimi directed the Evil Dead movies, which are cult classics despite having some of the largest movie mistakes to ever slip by audiences. (For ex: in Evil Dead 2 there is no ceiling in the house, and during some of the fast shots you can see techies heads poking over the tops of the walls. People never seem to notice this until someone tells them to look for it!)
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...is when Doc Oc throws spidey *forward*, then Spidey utilizes his cat-like reflexes (they weren't exactly "spider-like" in this instance) to fit through some weird bridge before slamming into Doc Oc... from *behind* the direction in which he had been thrown in the first place.
Now that you know, you're going to be made at me every time you watch this scene. Ha ha.
simple 2-hour-ish film
Simple perhaps in concept, but certainly not in execution.
The coolest voice ever.
I deleted anything I considered a clothing error.
Plot hole: Harry tells Doc Ock that in order to find Spider-Man he must find Peter first. Doc Ock finds Peter with Mary Jane in the cafe and throws a car through the window straight at them. Any normal man would've been killed instantly, and Doc Ock doesn't know that Peter is Spider-Man. Given that Peter is his only lead on Spider-Man, it makes no sense that Doc Ock would effectively try to kill him.
Doc Ock is insane. His actions do not need to make sense. If he was enough in his right mind to understand the consequences of his actions in a "Parker survived me throwing a car at him, he must be spider-man" sense, then he wouldn't have thrown a car at Parker in the first place, since you don't try to kill people you need to interrogate!
Continuity: When Peter arrives at his aunt's home at the beginning of the movie, it's night. He talks to Harry in the kitchen a few minutes later, and look at the purple balloon by Peter's head, it reflects a window with lots of light coming through it.
Umm... okay, you can have that one, but maybe there could be a car or streetlight outside?
Factual error: In the scene where Peter is saving the children from the burning building, there is no smoke from the fire. Black smoke would be bellowing out the windows. He wouldn't be able to just stand up and walk through the building.
OMFG A HOLLYWOOD MOVIE HAD AN INACCURATE PORTRAYAL OF A FIRE??? WHO WOULD HAVE EVER SEEN THAT COMING!
Continuity: Doc Ock pulls the giant sun ball and its support down onto himself, so he should be under it as they descend, yet in the final shot of him sinking into the ocean, the ball is below him and he is falling after it.
Perhaps the ball is more dense than he is, and thus sinks faster? Fat does float.
Audio problem: It's clear that due to the tentacles' heaviness, they have to made some kind of sound when moving. But yet when Doc Ock takes the tritium from Harry in his house, he leaves without making any sound at all.
OK...
Factual error: Nobody would dare to cut a metal piece with a saw without eye protection, much less in a surgical room, like the surgeon that wanted to remove Doc Ock's tentacles.
OK...
Revealing: In the scene where Doc Ock comes out of the hospital and throws a car onto another one, you can tell the man in there is just a dummy. He has no reaction what so ever. He just sits there as if nothing happened.
You know they do make these dummies you can leave in a car to make it appear as if an unoccupied car is occupied, to prevent it from being stolen... it isn't inconcievable the car's occupant could have been one of those.
Revealing: In the scene at the end where Spider-Man and Mary Jane are in the big web, there is a close-up which shows the webbing behind them. We can blatantly see that it's wire wrapped in plastic of some kind to make it look like web.
Oh what fucking ever.
Factual error: Dr. Octavius says his fusion relies on tritium and that there is only 25 pounds of the substance in the world. In reality, tritium is merely an isotope of hydrogen and is a good deal more common than that. For example, there is a large region of the North Pacific that contains tritium-rich salt water. Submitted by Phoenix
OK, but nuclear power is basically treated as a black box in this movie and there's no limit of things to complain about about this mysterious "fusion" technology... come to think of it, why does this list complain about a fire not looking right but complain about the little mini-sun "fusion" reaction occuring COMPLETELY unshielded in the middle of a room with journalists standing 30 feet away?
Factual error: Considering the brightness of the fusion process, Dr. Octavius has to wear special goggles to be able to see it. Yet no one else in the room is wearing such goggles or seem hurt by watchi
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What is this comment about tritium saltwater concentrated somewhere in the Pacific. That makes no sense at all.
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Which makes sense. Read the books. The Kessel Run is a special course around a cluster of hundreds of black holes...the closer you get to the black holes, the less amount of space you have to cross, but the more dangerous it gets.
(BTW I think it was 12 parsecs)
By going in less than 12 parsecs, Han went dangerously close to the black holes, closer than most other ships ever go.
I am so glad I am an every day movie goer.
Movies are made for people like me. We laugh in the right places, cry for no apparent reason, and we know that Mary Jane constantly has a bad hair day in this movie because she's no longer a high school student being supported by mom and dad, but a struggling actress moving on up, finally making ends meet and who's also suffering from a bad case of Spidey-love.
I don't notice when Spidey's rips and tears move from shoulder to shoulder. I turn a blind eye when the CGI gets cheesey and pretend I'm watching a live action comic book (uh, I am right?).
I think this movie is a chick flick. We'll explain away everything, even the obvious flaws, and we're the ones who leave with hollow feeling in our bellies in sympathy with the emotional and physical ass-kicking Peter Parker takes in this movie.
I loved it, plain and simple. For the most part, they suspended my disbelief. A few CGI blips and the fact that Spidey's identity is now the worst kept secret in the universe, notwithstanding, I felt I got a pretty good bang for my buck(s).
My advice: save the criticism for movies that really, really suck. This movie rocks.
Did anyone notice a physics problem with the train scene? Spiderman was thrown forward at the elevated sidewalk and after he twisted through the slot he was diving forward at Doc Ock who hadn't moved on the train.
I have a reprinting of the first spider man comic (Amazing Fantasy issue 15). He uses little gadgets attached to his arms. Here are some quotes of him talking to himself (in sequential order, omitting a few for context).
"Now let's see -- a spider needs a web! This little device should just do the trick"
"I'll fasten one to each arm -- it'll operate by the slightest pressure of any finger!"
"I'll need a name -- well, guess SPIDER-MAN is as good as any! Looks pretty good, if I do say so myself!"
"With some strong liquid cement at the end, I can pull myself up anywhere with my little web! And my costume is thin enough to wear, unseen, under my street clothes!"
btw, the outfit spidey wears when fighting the wrestler for the money, is a white sweatshirt, bluejeans, brown shoes, and what appears to be fishnet stockings over his head.
Not if you dip your tounge in wax. I wisely use protection.
So there, facist.
Did anyone else notice that the inhibitor chip was merely a blue led?
Isn't the weird substance needed for the fusion machine "TriLium" instead of "triTium" ?
I know, I know! Tritium is a radioactive isotope of hydrogen and trilium doesn't exist. But that could be an undeserved mistake.
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After reading the list of errors I can't say that any of them reduced my enjoyment of the movie. Similar to the sneaker in star wars it actually kind of impressed me the way the director can cut corners like this while not diluting the impact of the movie. I mean the 'mistakes' might have been made on purpose to get the movie made faster.
Having said that I am a bit upset about Peter's gift for science being played down in the movie. I don't have as much respect for the Peter character in the movie, as in the comic he has proven himself an extraordinary scientist by inventing a revolutionary web fluid.
If a company has enough money to develop super-goblin equipment plus spheres that can turn people into skeletons that fall into dust, then of course they can afford tritium!
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"Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel." - A.B.
Altough "tritium" has got Portuguese counterpart, that would be "Trítio", the tranlsator decided instead to use the word "trício" as the Portuguese for "tritium". Needless to say, this word does not exist.
(ok, ok, suspension of belief - maybe "trício" was not tritium all the time, and hence, the "tritium" references are not to the chemical "tritium", and therefore, there is no error in there)
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Wow great?! Now show me where the solid state of it is as there's a HUGE difference!
During the fiery rescue scene, Peter Parker opened the door instead of bashing it.
Remember one scene from the first Home Alone when our little hero hung a heater on the door knob, and the bad guy tried to open the door on the other side ?
I'm so sick of reading these nitpicker lists where 98% of the so-called errors are trivial continuity errors. Real issues are fun to read and discuss, but I don't really give a crap that George Castanza didn't have the ketchup in his hand when they cut to Jerry, but Jerry's witty rejoinder makes him squirt ketchup across the table when he jump cuts back. Big deal. On the other hand, real plot holes or complete inconsistencies can be fun to talk about. For instance when Michael Moore claims Bush let the Saudis out of the U.S. when all the planes were grounded, pointing out the fact that it was actually Richard Clarke (the _terrorism_ guy) and the flight ban had been lifted, so nothing wrong was done is useful and instructive. That's an error worth pointing out. Unfortunately, these lists are usually just exercises in people's powers of observing insignificant minutia, and the fact that directors often flip the film (or even run it backwards like they did in helicopter shot in The Two Towers) seems to provide the majority of the issues.
Here's one for free: In "This Island Earth" Dr. Meacham and his lady friend duck under the water to escape the explosion of the car driven by Russell Johnson's character. The next scene shows them stepping onto land and they are clearly dry. Woo hoo! I'm a GENIUS!
The reward for such powers of perceptiveness were skillfully and cleverly satirized by the infamous Marvel No-Prize, until the dolt readers became incensed that they never got anything and Marvel actually had to start sending something out.
You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
Seriously. When Otto threw the car at Parker I assumed Otto figured out his secret identity. He didn't, it was just a mindless action shot.
Parker was his only contact to get to Spider-Man. Granted, in the process of rewrites and movie-making it may have been true that that Otto did figure it out (Oh, the only photographer is his exact same size!) but it was tossed for some reason or another.
This is a big mistake, because people like to be challenged when watching a movie. I like to guess at what's happening or will happen. Throwing a car at Parker is a big hint that Otto figured out his identity, instead the movie took the low-road of "lookee special effects!!"
Perhaps this story decision is a sign of the times.
That said, I saw this movie at home (shhh) and we just laughed at the cheesy and stoic "romance," and a few other things, but that was the only "nitpicking" thing I noticed and its a real flaw. Then again this wasn't a great movie to begin with and had a lot MST3K qualities to it.
'Course, I'm a total dork for posting this, but...
The one thing that bothered me was that when the freakin' huge ball-o-fusion descended into the river, there was no boiling/steam. C'mon, that would've looked 10x cooler than what actually happened, and it'd have been a little closer to scientifically valid to boot.
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is a good day for CSI: Miami. People who really need to nitpick about details would have a field day with that show.
There have been movies about scientists fighting management for advancement. I'm sure Asimov had a good number. Bicentennial man is one possibility. But pro-technology works of this kind don't seem to resonate as much with the public. The one big exception that I can think of is "And the Band Played On." That seems to fit your desired description pretty well. So does Rachel Carson's "Silent Spring."
Medicine Man and The Day After Tomorrow also have scientists as heros. But the theme in all of these is that scientists are in-tune with the natural order and "management/society" is not. In these films, scientific understanding is lauded while technology may be good bad or neutral.
Sagan's "Contact" definitly comes to mind as a book (also an inferior movie ) that shows scientist-protagonists fighting management for the purpose of advancement and discovery but the fruit is the discovery of E.T. life and not an original human creation at all. Discovery of E.T. life could fit with the notion that scientists are there to improve our relationship with the natural order.
It seems that the only people who write the books that you describe are scientist-authors themselves, and such people are precious few.
Alternatly, it seems that the most effective way to prevent science in a way that resonates with people is to have scientists be like preists that help us understand our relationship to the natural order and the problems that we've created in it.
Or to put it another way, people don't want technology for its own sake. They just want to be happy and to fufill their own human needs. Even at it's best, if Science or Technology fail to take into account what it means to be human, then they are useless and counterproductive.
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Deliberate "mistake": When Mary Jane is being pulled toward the tritium when Doc Ock has her, the shot is taken from her feet up to her head. If you look where her dress ends, you can just barely see that instead of having the regular open dress, it is switched with shorts of the same type so you can't see under her dress. Submitted by Guy Strad. - I too find it horrible that they made this particular mistake. For the love of audience, why was MJ in this movie at all if we didn't even get a look under her dress?
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a) Edit and trim for relevance the things they find on the Net
b) Cite sources ! In my class this post would lead to an honor code hearing. And they didn't even take out the "Click here for more information..."
OK, realistically, this is just slashdot and not a formal journal. But it is illuminative. Believe it or not I've seen actual papers submitted for real grades that still had the "Click here" parts intact!
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making the movie in the first place. :)
I'm still waiting for a CGI Transformers movie.
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Factual error: Considering the brightness of the fusion process, Dr. Octavius has to wear special goggles to be able to see it. Yet no one else in the room is wearing such goggles or seem hurt by watching the whole process, just as at the end of the movie. When welding something, no one can look at the arc that's created, as it would hurt his eyes and burn his retina; presumably, the fusion process would be brighter and more powerful than that, and so should have some kind of damaging effect on everyone's eyesight (except Spider Man's, maybe). Submitted by Sereenie
Now, this is IIRC, as I did some Google research for about 15 minutes and couldn't find a definitive answer to this. I did find a site that said recommended lense darkness for viewing a solar eclipse (or transit of Venus in this case) are #14 arc welder's lenses. However there are other astronomy sites that say at least a #9 will do.
I then found some welding forums that recommend a #10 darkness for MIG welding, so it would be assumed that some arc welding methods (there are at least 2 by my knowledge, MIG and TIG) can be brighter than looking at the sun.
Now, on Monster Garage they had a welding instructor as one of the build team members. She (yes, she) was recommending to one of the other team members to get a darker lense on their helmet. She said that some welding can be up to 10 times brighter than looking at the sun.
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As my friend has pointed out, when Spidey and Doc Oct are fighting on the train, Oct throws Peter and he goes flying through that little bridge/walkway yet has enough velocity to hit Doc Oct on the other side.
Two things
1. Some of the films I mentioned in my post are actually books. Should be obvious, but I was unclear when I wrote the comment.
2. In Spider Man, Peter Parker was also a scientist and a geek. He built his web spinners in the lab. i.e. he used science to adapt himself to his new nature. I was a little ticked that they took this out of the movie.
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Audio problem: Throughout the entire movie, when Doc Ock moves around with his tentacles, it's always in very quick movements, with his tentacles pounding into the ground with "boom, boom, boom, boom..." However, whenever someone actually hears Ock coming, (i.e. Harry on the balcony, the woman in the office, or Peter and Mary Jane in the deli) we can hear very long, three to four-second pauses in between the impacts of his extra arms. Submitted by DenizenZERO
In those cases he was always coming from far away. He probably wouldn't be just walking on those arms for miles and miles. Personally I'd take the bus, but he may have just been jumping. Considering the average human can spend about 5 sec in the air on a single jump, 2-3 seconds might not be that improbable. Using basic physics, if he was in the air for 2 seconds, he jumped to a height of 5 meters. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, this may be possible.
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if anything goes wrong with the containment field, there is no sudden outburst of energy, the thing just fizzles
to create fusion, you must maintain exceedingly accurate and high levels of energy and pressure
if you fail to do that in the slightest way, everything falls apart rapidly
there is no explosion
as for your hydrogen bomb, what you say about it is not instructive or relevant as to what we are talking about: a fusion reactor
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I particularly enjoyed the part where Doc and Spidey fight so hard, they get knocked into Chicago and land on what appears to be the Red Line.
Now THATs a fight!
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... fucking stupid.
1.Doc Ock is basically on a rampage, only -after- the car is thrown, and PP is back on his feet, do you see the Doc come around the corner. Unless a benefit of his implants is the ability to see through fairly solid buildings, this "error" is insubstantiated.
6. Just because the tentacles look heavy doesn't necessarily mean they're going to be loud. If you've ever been inside a vehicle plant you'd know that the gigantic robotic arms manipulating windshields run effectively silent, excepting of course their hydraulic pumps, something those highly dextrous arms lack.
19. This is yet another unsubstantiated claim to error. As far as the movie goes, we know nothing about the construction of the Docs manipulator arms. Albeit, they can hurl cars which could imply that they're quite strong, but climbing straight up a wall is a feat unto its own.
20. There would -never- be more than one Taxi in New York. Jeez, that'd be rediculous!
24. Well, Spidey rips through the multiple strands of barbed wire on his chest like it was putty, so it's conceivable that he tore through the one or two strands on his feet with considerable ease.
25. How can you honestly tell from that distance? There was a fairly decent glare on a shiny metal roof.
29. PP does the cool thing and kicks his mother and himself away from the vault door while they're both sitting on their chairs. That's why they're no longer behind the desk when it pans over..
32. Egads, could people have moved while the camera wasn't focused on that particular part of observatory? Out of the question!
I wish people would stop looking for faults in a movie to the point where they're creating them.
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One of the alleged mistakes was: No one would use a metal grinder without protective glasses.
If there was a titanium tentacle grasping MY neck you better believe I'd use a grinder on it!
Another was: Everytime Doc Ock moves in a fight, his tentacles make booming sounds rapidly. But, when he's climbing, there is a 3 or 4 second delay between booms.
Well, he is pulling himself up between tentacle booms when he's climbing isn't he?
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Spidey punches Doc Ock in the face many times AND even shoots webbing onto his eyeglasses in the clock tower fight yet his glasses stay on the entire time. The only time I recall his glasses getting somewhat damaged is when Aunt May slaps him with her umbrella toward the end of the bank robbery hostage/getaway scene. -PizaZ p.s. Yes, I realize the glasses are there to make the CGI cuts of Doc Ock easier to blend with the live action cuts.
Factual error: Nobody would dare to cut a metal piece with a saw without eye protection, much less in a surgical room, like the surgeon that wanted to remove Doc Ock's tentacles.
Are they joking?? I usually wear eye protection when cutting metal myself. That is of course there is a big robotic arm threatening to crush my skull, then I make an exception... I'm not quite positive the doctor was too concerned about that either.
I'm married. I do about double that rate of mistakes.
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You said "NEVER". You said "fusion reaction". You didn't mention anything about size constraints.
Atomic bombs do a good job of blowing up large areas, by the way. The fact that they are a fusion reaction doesn't seem to stop them, and neither does that fact they are a little smaller than most stars. (and before you reuse your previous reply, you said "reaction" not "reactor").
And also, this is a movie based on the premise that being bitten by a genetically engineered spider gives you super powers. Taking any of the science seriously would be pretty stupid, but of course people are on average pretty stupid...
Does anyone else think that the 'booom booom' doc ock is coming sound seems like it was stolen from the T Rex in Jurrasic park and doesn't fit Doc Ock at all?
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When the spider is radioactive. Since we havent seen a mutant radioactive spider bite yet. We dont know how it would turn out :))
An undergrad is actually noticed and spoken to by a Professor? That's a good one!
this movie sucked big time!
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is when the Bible says pi is equal to 3, when it's actually equal to 3.1415...
duh. savages.
Most folk'll never lose a toe, and then again some folk'll...
Seeing as Pirates of the Caribbean has 252 listed, LORT:FOTR has 223, and LOTR:TTT has 223, 23 sounds damn good. Why is this news anyway?
Interesting comment for a geek to be making, considering Spiderman is far more "traditionally masculine" than the overwhelming majority of guys that browse Slashdot...
;-)
I guess you get to keep on secretly dreaming about Spidey coming out of the closet to declare his interest in you, since he's no more likely to be gay than the many geeks that don't meet stereotypes about straight guys. According to your logic, far less likely, in fact.
The problem with these kind of cricisms at this site is that once you set up a site to try very hard to find problems, people tend to find problems that aren't problems, just to get their entry on the page: Here's some examples:
Audio problem: It's clear that due to the tentacles' heaviness, they have to made some kind of sound when moving. But yet when Doc Ock takes the tritium from Harry in his house, he leaves without making any sound at all.
Doc Ock's normal limbs were also there, in addition to his mechanical ones (He's not called Doc Quad, after all), and therefore he could still walk normally, just holding his mechanical limbs in the air and not doing anything with them (except holding onto the loot, of course). That could still be silent. Thus the implied sneaky getaway he allegedly made while off-camera is possible.
Continuity: Doc Ock pulls the giant sun ball and its support down onto himself, so he should be under it as they descend, yet in the final shot of him sinking into the ocean, the ball is below him and he is falling after it.
No. From the shot, we see Ock in the foreground, and the ball behind him, and they are getting smaller. The critic probably interpreted this to mean that they were falling away from the camera. But when I viewed it I interpreted this as the camera's vantage point was underneath them both, and the camera was sinking faster than they were, into the depths. The way the shot looked, either interpretation works. (But I think a much larger problem is that the river is only about 60 feet deep, and that final shot makes it look like it just goes down and down and down at least several hundred feet.)
Besides, it's entirely possible, even if the critic's interpretation of the camara angles is right, that the two got turned around at some point when they were both off camera. The movie does imply that quite a few seconds have passed between the scene where Ock pulled the thing down and the underwater scene.
Continuity: After Doc Ock drops Spider-Man off at Harry's house, Spider-Man's legs, wrists and arms are bound. When he sits up after Harry unmasks him, he never breaks his legs free of the ties yet he no longer has anything holding his legs together
Things are often implied to happen off-camera in a movie. There were shots during which only the top half of spiderman is shown during that 'breaking out' scene, and so breaking out the legs could happen anywhere in there. The problem with finding errors of ommission is that they don't necessarily mean anything when there are moments that are implied to occur off camera. Otherwise everyone in the movie must be horrendously constipated since the movie is implied to take place over a period of several days, and nobody ever goes to the bathroom.
Continuity: After Peter changes into Spider-Man to deliver the pizzas and throws them onto the ledge to save the two children, the camera goes back to show the pizzas and the man living there finding them. There are only seven pizza boxes, without any damage done to them. When he actually delivers them, there are eight and a couple of them are now flattened or banged-up as they should be.
The fact that there are 8 instead of 7 - that's a problem, yes. The fact that they are now damaged when they weren't before - no that's not a problem in the slightest. Nowhere does it imply that zero time has passed between the pizza on the ledge scene and the delivering scene. Presumably the damage could have happened after the ledge scene.
Don't label something "offtopic" unless you know the topic well enough to tell what's on topic.
Hmmm.. ya gotta love it:
movie 1: Oscorp CEO trying dangerous science experiment drives himself crazy with gas
movie 2: scientist drives himself crazy with arms trying dangerous science experiment
movie 3: son of Oscorp CEO has gone crazy from stress
brilliant!
Sorry.
I thought you might actually want to clear up the vague language and be precise rather than just make sweeping generalisations that clearly aren't true.
Hollywood demonises most things, from Arabs to Russians to nuclear power to spy satelites to bees to tomatoes.
After all, "safe" things are a pretty boring topic for an "action" movie. You really need dangerous things.
But don't mine me, just keep going with the generalisations and hysteria.
In any close-up with doc's octopus arms near a face, no shadows are rendered on the faces as the arms change position. This includes Mary Jane, Aunt, even peter Parker/Spiderman.
I didn't think it was possible to break Spiderman's web servers!
Can we slashdot his super-strength next?
in the scene where they are in the cafe and the car gets thrown through the window, the car is rolling. Yet as he pulls MJ down to the ground, the car goes above his head, and you see the wheel of the car and its in the totally wrong angle for a car going sideways, in the scene it looks like the car is going straight through the window.
i wonder why no one else noticed that.
Well, maybe I missed the dream sequence or perhaps something changed in the years since I stopped reading Spider Man comics (when they reached a buck per comic way back), but as I recall, Mary Jane died when she fell from the bridge and SM swung down to catch her.
That's as bad as the Star Trek: Wrath of Kahn scene with Checkov "but you, I've seen you before" who wasn't on the ship when Kahn was found the first time (yea yea, he was in the bathroom in medical *shrug*).
But like I said. Maybe I missed the comic where he went back and saved her.
I still like the movies though and would really like to see Ghost Rider become a movie.
Shit better not happen!
So really, this is more or less just a cheap plug for the website on Slashdot, right? Or was there some reason Spider-Man 2 was singled out and not, say, the movies in the Lord of the Rings trilogy, each one having nearly five times the number of errors listed, if not more?
Whoa! its not all tritium.
According to these lecture notes from the University of Washington's Oceanographic Institute and estimate there was only 3.5 Kg of the stuff in existence before nuclear testing. Nowadays there is only about 200 Kg of the stuff on the planet. Remember tritium concentrations are not measured in PPM (Parts Per Million), PPB (Parts Per Billion) or even PPT (Parts Per Trillion) but rather TUs (Tritium Units) which is something like 10^-18 or something silly like that
Bad Panda! No Bamboo for you! In matters of importance ACs will not be responded to. Want to say something critical,OK
Which part of "Hollywood demonises ... nuclear power" followed by my short guess as to why didn't address your point?
I happen to think that the fact that hollywood demonises things is uninteresting, but one paragraph of one of your posts was of interest to me and I commented on that. I take it I'm not allowed to do such a thing, but must bow to your superiority and talk about only the things which you think are important.
you are entirely correct
but my main problem is with hollywood's depiction of technology it doesn't understand in negative ways, poisoning the general public's opinion of that technology
so while your correction of my depiction of the fusion reactor is accurate, i am more concerned with hollywood's depiction: fusion as just fission with funny special effects... that fusion can go china syndrome on us
no, it can't, and that's the problem here
fusion was clearly displayed as a chain reaction threat in the movie: that the fusion reaction was running away all on its own in an unstoppable matter and it was going to consume half of manhattan unless the reaction was dumped into the hudson river
the depiction of fusion in negative ways in an ultra-pop culture movie only serves to make the average joe distrust fusion, and lump it in the same mental category as fission
and as we all know, fission has a whole hell of a lot of historical baggage of distrust and fear concomitant with it, some of it deserved, and some of it equally hysterical and ignorant as that surrounding any technology that is not well understood by the lay person
but no matter what you think of fission, none of fission's cultural baggage should be inherited by fusion, and unfortunately, spiderman ii goes a long way to ensure that it does
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
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...or do the people who post at MovieMistakes.com remind anyone of Comic Book Guy?
you can talk about anything you like
but don't expect me to be happy if you attack a point i think is important with stupid semantics and sideshows
hollywood demonizes many things, and with its left-leaning politics, a favorite demon of theirs is big oil companies
so if hollywood understood the real relationship between the promise of fusion and a possible end to the evils of the petroleum age, then i don't think they would be demonizing fusion the way they do in spiderman ii
see?
a little knowledge goes a long way, and your whole "hollywood demonizes things, get over it" point is merely an argument to stop trying to fight the good fight, and so again, i will have no part of your words, i will chastise you for them, and i will continue to take umbrage at your pointless opposition to my words and my larger point
if you like the promise of fusion, then stop biting my ankles
i see no real point in your opposition to my words other than that you like to argue with people
think about the larger goals here, and if you agree with my goals, stop arguing with me
ok?
geez
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
there probably was in the 1940s
Never mind the train, you forget there's no spider man in manhattan either.
I'm just this guy, you know?
again, you are right
but: hollywood is generally left-leaning in their politics (unless it has to do with guns)
for example, they like to demonize big oil companies with relish
and, since a little knowledge goes a long way: if hollywood can be educated as to the relationship between the promise of fusion and a possible end to the evils of the petroluem age, do you really think they would want to demonize fusion to the extent it was in spiderman ii?
i'm talking about educating hollywood here, as opposed to the average guy on the street, which is a shift in what we are talking about, but you can see how one trickels down to the other
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
I happily saw none of the ones listed. Some didn't even dawn on me until they were pointed out.
So I'm going to enjoy my ignorance on the subject...if I was engrossed in the flick enough to not catch these things, I think Raimi did a pretty good job.
I'm a fan of Spider-man, and I'm a fan of Sam Raimi (mostly. "For Love of the Game" is still a total mystery to me.) I spent most of the movie alternating between seeing the story told and the way Raimi did it.
I highly recommend that anyone that isn't familiar with his style go off and rent Darkman and compare it with either of the Spider-man flicks. You'll see his fingerprints all over it.
-transiit (off to go check to see if these moviemistakes goons ever reviewed any of the Evil Dead series)
i can hardly demonize YOU for an off-topic discussion on an off-topic website in an off-topic thread about an off-topic comment about a comic book movie
;-)
;-)
i'll just consider it a clash of my seriousness with your unseriousness, and i do not in any way claim that my attitude has any greater right to exist than yours
but i don't know how they can be prevented from clashing...
but i thank you for remaining good-natured about it to the end, more good-natured than i have remained
cheers
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
It would be nice to see lists like this taken as an edit list for a DVD cut. Maybe not the science stuff as much as things that could be digitally fixed (the scar, for instance).
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that bright yellow thing in the sky is something much, much, muchx10,000 larger than can ever be put in a terrestrial fusion reactor
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
"Continuity: Doc Ock pulls the giant sun ball and its support down onto himself, so he should be under it as they descend, yet in the final shot of him sinking into the ocean, the ball is below him and he is falling after it."
This assumption shows that the person making it does not know much about physics. When Doc Ock starts falling with the sun ball, they together form a kind of pendulum with him being the lighter end of said pendulum. If the pendulum falls long enough, it will almost inevitably lean to one side , the heavy end will turn and nearly always end up pointing down whereas the light end (Doc Ock) will be pointing up. Wile this process will probably happen slower under water as compared to in mid-air, it still should physically turn out quite the same. It's a matter of acceleration and mass AFAIK. Tell me if I am wrong.
No, those are warnings.
1. There is no elevated trains in downtown/midtown Manhattan
I'm led to understand that it's supposed to be the 9th St el, which was actually torn down a long time ago. So maybe it's not a spacial error, but a temporal one.
2. Shots are frequently switching between a background of midtown, brooklyn, queens, and the village.
Sometimes I take those as supposed to be representing Spidey moving a lot. But yes, they're not as careful as Stan Lee was about representing New York precisely.
3. There is no D'Agostinos on St. Marks
Are you now just being silly?
Been playing the Spiderman 2 game, and in it, after fighting the boss mysterio (for the first of several times I presume), he says "you have no chance to survive, make your time". Thought it was pretty funny....
... or he'd shoot web from his ass.
So when he said "NEVER" he meant to say, "NEVER unless..."?
i think i said "reaction" in my original post instead of "reactor"
for that semantic mistake, i am to be raked over the coals by small-minded literalists who refuse to focus on the larger point my post was trying to make
so, in regard to your small-minded side-track unimportant fruitless point about a fusion reaction, you win
but, in regard to the real issue at hand, you lose
why is the world full of nitpickers who think they are contributing to life when all they are doing is exercising an overdeveloped sense of useless anal retentive thinking?
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Yes, full of facts from Idaho State University.
http://www.physics.isu.edu/radinf/tritium.htm
I didn't see it listed... Plus, you can see it in the International Trailer (available here).
In a shot from behind Peter, MJ asks if he loves her or not. We see that his head is level, making eye contact with her.
Then, in a shot from behind MJ, Peter says he doesn't, and hangs his head.
Then, from a shot behind Peter, MJ asks incredulously "you don't?" But, even though Peter is hanging his head, we see his head is level again, as if making eye contact with her.
The next shot from behind MJ shows him lifting his head up.
Anyway, didn't see that in the list. Just thought I'd share. (And no, I'm not overly critical about movies... It just caught my eye the first time I watched it.)
- sm
...as opposed to getting stitches for a scalp wound, my brother was administered staples, by what looked suspiciously like a bog-standard staple gun.
Ow.
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ive saw the movie, spider man is the one that have 8 member, right?
i'm confuse...
" You said "NEVER". You said "fusion reaction". You didn't mention anything about size constraints."
Supernova are produced by gravitational collapse in stars, not the fusion reactions fizzling out, dumbass. If you want to be nitpicky to support your daft point, then the lack of fusion causes stars to nova, but I can't believe you're trying to defend the point seriously.
"Atomic bombs do a good job of blowing up large areas, by the way. The fact that they are a fusion reaction"
Triggered by a fission reaction that causes an unbottled fusion reaction to take place. Curiously the function of bombs is to explode. This can be safely predicted in the future by looking for the word 'bomb'.
...is the scientist's decision to use 'strong' AI in the robotic arms as opposed to 'weak' AI. The things were only built for one purpose; having their own minds/consciousness is just ridiculous (and a risk I don't think anyone would take with such evil looking devices). But then again, no evil arms, no film...
now, Fifty-nine deceits like in Fahrenheit 911 would be a *bad* thing
Sanity is the trademark of a weak mind. -- Mark Harrold
..others are not.
If its continuity errors, that can happen in the heat of battle. But plotholes because they writer/director was sloppy and not using their head is not acceptable.
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
Indeed, some of the 'faults' are absurdly pedantic.
In my opinion an interesting movie mistake is one that almost everyone sees the first time they watch the movie.
Godzilla is the best example.
The speed of Godzilla is inversely proportional to the importance of the character. At the beginning of the film she can catch a helicopter because it contains an extra. At the end of the film she is unable to catch a reversing taxi because it contains key actors.
Not to mention the wildly varying size of the monster throughout the film.
"Dr. Octavius says his fusion relies on tritium and that there is only 25 pounds of the substance in the world. In reality, tritium is merely an isotope of hydrogen and is a good deal more common than that. For example, there is a large region of the North Pacific that contains tritium-rich salt water."
Tritium is relatively common but Helium-3 is only relatively adundant in places that have no atmosphere and are subject to solar winds, like the moon.
Unless these guys get off on spending $9 per visit to watch Spiderman 2 amidst a crowd of enthusiastic movie watchers, just to document all of these "mistakes", it seems to me they had to make their careful single-frame observations from home via BitTorrent.
Hint - Hydrogen is a very good fusion 'fuel'.
Actually, in both reactor scenes, lots of Iron (plating from walls, structural girders) is shown being drawn in to the fireball. Solution? Let it be. Nothing poisons a fusion reaction better than Iron. Why?
Fusion liberates energy from combining small atomic nuclei to make larger ones, H+H=>He or even hotter, He+He=>Be. This works until you get to Iron. Fusing Iron nuclei together to form even bigger ones uses energy, which is why you won't find spectrographic evidence of Iron or heavier elements in 1st-generation stars. These heavy elements are only formed in novae or supernovae (it took a conscious effort to spell that word correctly!)
Some news or movie review show likes to show "film flubs" of mistakes in movies. Recently they showed one from Spider-Man 2 at the scene in the cafe when Doc Ock throws the car through the window at Peter Parker and Mary Jane. At first the chair Mary Jane is sitting on goes flying backwards, but when the camera changes angles, the chair she was sitting on hasn't moved at all.
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MJ's hands are tied with some kinda of rope and while all the metal is being ripped apart the ropes hold together.
"Also, people bitten by spiders don't generally become ultra-powerful." People don't, and that's why Peter Parker is special. Remember people, this is the Marvel Universe, where people are born with strange and unuusual powers because of some genetic mutation. Many of them only manifest when triggered by a stressfull situation. I imagine being bitten by a radioactive spider would qualify as stressful.
NERDS!!!!
what woman throws a humongous wedding without putting nail polish on?
(see Dunst's hand against Maguire's face in the doorway)
"Win treats sysadmins better than users. Mac treats users better than sysadmins. Linux treats everyone like sysadmins."
I didn't RTFA cause I don't care, but I did think turning a downtown NY loft into a research lab was a bit much. Just rent the place out and you could fund your research in Nevada for YEARS!!
BobK
I can buy the 'used to be there' arguement about the elevated rail, but at the shot where the train is about to jump the tracks at the end, the shot pans and the rail appears to be over four stories up. No elevated rail lines in any major metropolis in the US has above the street rail that high, to my knowledge. even if it did, check out the end of the track. Usually the last stop on any line has a crossover, that enables the train to switch directions in order to service the opposite direction. wasn't there in the movie.
Reason, free market capitalism, and individualism
That quote actually comes from Oscar Wilde, not Orson Scott Card.
When Spiderman is on the ice covered mountain, he falls slides a ways down the mountain. Well in the next scene you can clearly see the seam where his hobbit foot merges into his real leg!
The scene with the scar on his face swapping sides caught my attention, but I quickly realized he was looking in a mirror just then. Maybe I'm wrong on that, but that was what I noticed at the time.
Music speeds up when you yawn, but does not change pitch.
Yes, I have no life.
Other than the mechanical arms, Doc Oc is just an ordinary flesh-and-blood type human, right?
Considering the spider strength displayed in the train sceen; it seems to me that if spidy really hauled off and punched somebody in the head - it would look like something out of Gallagar's act.
Also, it seems to me that a gun would be a more effective weapon against doc oc, that a spider-man. For that matter matter, a gun would be probably be more effective than mechanical arms for robbing a bank.
They've misused the word ``blatantly.'' I don't know how it's possible to ``blatantly see'' anything. Can sight be obvious to anyone in a way that's offensive? Could they possibly have meant that the fact that it's wire wrapped in plastic is actually what's ``blatant''?
did anyone else notice that when that fusion reaction (see: star) was dropped into the river that a. there was no steam and b. the river was still there after having a star inserted into it.
Does the concept of going to a movie and just watching it, simply enjoying it, without picking it to pieces and analyzing every instant of it, frame by frame, never occur to any of you?
/. will earn in our lives, combined. I'd friggin' LOVE to be making that kind of an "error", thank you very damn much!
This is FICTION! It's made-up. It's false. This is not a lecture on physics, so if something is incorrect it doesn't mean you won't pass the final.
They got eigenvalues wrong. They misdescribed fusion. So? It doesn't matter. Expecting Hollywood to know physics is like expecting your 2 year old little sister to pilot a plane -- the failure is not on the part of the 2 year old. The failure is in your expectations.
Look, when you enter a movie theater, pretend you're entering an alternative universe where the standard laws of physics don't apply; where computers operate differently; and where no one gives a crap what you nitpicking motherless obessive idiots think about all these little "errors". And do you really think it is an error? Well, this movie has so far raked in more money in ticket sales than all of us reading these comments on
If the only reason you go to a movie is to complain about it afterwards, please die already and stop giving the rest of the stupid moronic human race a bad name.
Yes, this is a rant; a rant against people who can't just enjoy a damn movie. Stop analysing everything and enjoy something before you die!!!
Kirsten Dunst fails to get nude through the entire movie!
There exists no way of exchanging information without making judgments. --Bene Gesserit Axiom
I only disagreed with one of the mistakes.
Quote:Factual error: When Spider-man is fighting with Doc Ock and Doc Ock throws Spider-man through the overhead pedestrian bridge, Doc Ock throws Spider-man in the direction of travel of the train, and when passing through the bridge, Spider-man doesn't touch anything. When Spider-man comes out the other side, he is 'behind' Doc Ock (in terms of the direction of train travel). This implies that Spider-man has slowed down in the air - fair enough due to wind resistance - and so is traveling slower. However, Spider-man then hits Doc Ock, which implies he is now traveling faster. A physical impossibility (since the horizontal speed doesn't increase and decrease when thrown, only the vertical speed).
Spiderman didn't actually fly straight through the overhead pedestrial bridge. He was slowed by air resistance and perhaps by touching the bridge for maneuvering in flight through. Upon exiting the side he definately didn't fly straight out, but kicked off the bridge gaining the momentum to fly at Doctor Octopus.
Anyone notice the "Shwing!" noise when the dagger is lifted from the holder. I almost burst out laughing. Then it shwings again when unsheathed. Then the goofy "sharpening" noises when he's running his fingers over the blade. Fire that sound engineer!
"Also, people bitten by spiders don't generally become ultra-powerful."
Well, No Shit, Sherlock.
While I understand the idea and subject matter behind the post, those choice bit of words at the end of the submission, IMO, do little help stimulate what appeared to be the interesting ideas in it.
If those words were not in the submission but someone had put them in as a post they'd likely be modded "Flamebait" (if not humerous, for those who would take it in a better light - call me thin-skinned).
And yes, I didnt post it AC, so go ahead and slash my Karma now.
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people bitten by spiders don't generally become ultra-powerful
Well, I don't know about that. The last time a spider dropped on me, I jumped 4 feet in the air in an incredible surge of power. I can only imagine how much further I could have jumped if it had bit me.
[You have a stable society when some nut guns down a schoolyard and the law doesn't change.]
After he knocks the glass off the counter with the bottle he grabs another glass.
"Deliberate "mistake": Peter runs into the apartment building on fire to save a child and even though there are flames everywhere, he is able to grab onto a doorknob to see if it is locked without being burned."
The doorknob wouldn't necessarily be intensely hot, in fact if it was then it would be a bad thing to open the door as you would get a major backdraft.
"Deliberate "mistake": Throughout the entire movie, when Doc Ock moves around with his tentacles, it's always in very quick movements, with his tentacles pounding into the ground with "boom, boom, boom, boom..." However, whenever someone actually hears Ock coming, (i.e. Harry on the balcony, the woman in the office, or Peter and Mary Jane in the deli) we can hear very long, three to four-second pauses in between the impacts of his extra arms."
So because he walks one way sometimes he can't walk other ways at times?
"At the end of the "I've changed" conversation with Mary Jane, the taxi is right next to her (you can see its roof next to her face), yet in the next shot, she has to cross the street to get to it."
The taxi next to her drove off and there was another across the street?
There are more but I'm done nit-picking the nit-pickers.
Trust Your Technolust
The one where they claim he grabbed a champagne glass that had already fallen on the ground isn't true. There were clearly other champagne glasses at the bar and he just grabbed a different one.
Not to mention that 1) brakes on trains are fail-safe devices, and 2) NYCT, like most transit agencies, can trip brakes externally to stop runaway trains, but hey, it's movie :)
So what? Matrix has more than 130 and this never showed up in Slashdot?
What's next? Who's the cutiest in "Alien vs Predator"?
n/t
Guys/girls....I've been reading these mistakes, and the whole thread (because I have a lot of nothing to do before my shift at work starts) and I have one conclusion: IT'S A COMIC BOOK MOVIE!!!! You want realism, forget the movies! Spider-Man is based on a comic book, and as we all know, the rules of realism go out the fscking window! Gawds, I swear people look for mistakes to define their own existence. No one just turns off their brains and watches a movie anymore!
Spidey's swinging isn't plausable, actually. The scenes where he turns corners are done well, and the scenes where he dangles from sticking-out-things are good, but the basic mode of transport doesn't make any sense. The way he's depicted as going down the straight streets, swinging from lines connected to the buildings on the sides, he should be smacking into the side walls at the bottoms of his swings. There is a way to make it with with alternating arcs weaving back and forth, but the way he's depicted as moving, he's not curving side-to-side enough to be doing that. I think this is why the camera often doesn't show what he's attaching his webs to when he goes straight down the street. If it showed what he was attaching to, it would make it obvious that the swing was happening on the wrong arc
The "Spiderman the Movie 2" videogame is interesting. In the earlier Spiderman games, the webs just attached somewhere up in the sky in limbo. But in the new game, the webs actually have to attach to buildings, and the swinging seems to be in realistic arcs. You don't have to choose the particular building, fortunately--you just point the joystick in the general direction, hit a button, and if there's a target, he'll shoot a web. You do have to choose when to let go of a web. Fortunately, you don't take damage from slamming into buildings, because you do a lot of that at first. I think they may still be cheating a bit on the physics (perhaps a little repulsion from the building at the bottom of a swing?), but I'm not sure. Swinging around a digital model of Manhattan is a blast (which is fortunate, since the rest of the game is pretty much crap).
I realize there are a lot of physics problems with the movie (although, like others, I was impressed with the motion of Ock's arms -- particularly how they braced themselves whenever he moved something heavy). This one really bugged me, though:
When fighting atop the train, Doc Ock throws Spiderman forward (relative to the train). Spidey makes himself fit neatly through slats in the pedestrian bridge he was aimed at -- and lands back on the train, right next to Doctor Octopus, at the point from which he was thrown! Being thrown forward would mean Spiderman's position should change with respect to the train. The only explanations to mitigate this that I can think of are that air resistance slowed Spiderman down, completely cancelling his forward motion relative to the train, or that Doc Ock moved forward very quickly while Spiderman was airborn. Both of these explanations seem improbable.
Also, people bitten by spiders don't generally become ultra-powerful.
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I guess someone's got to do it
Martin: I would've thought that being hit by an atomic bomb would've killed him!
Bart: Now you know better.
Now, as for all those people busy finding mistakes, here's one for just for you:
Comic Book Guy: But Aquaman, you cannot marry a woman without gills. You're from two different worlds! (nuclear missile suddenly detonates nearby) Oohh, I've wasted my life...
If that was the 9th street El, then how did they fall down onto it from the Credit Suisse building that is on 23rd & 5th? The fake el train was actually going down 24th street. They even duck under the crosswalk between the same CSFB building. Also, that train was labeled Bay Ridge. Funny that It'd be ending on 24th pointed at Queens.
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A model/actress in a "society wedding" with UNMANICURED nails.
Why doesnt the fucking spider get super human abilities! That would be one heck of a spider. Spinning all the ladies into its web...Spidecious!!
Only one thing in the movie was really bad... the small 'sun' was said to be self-sustaining near the end of the movie. Of course, it then makes sense that dousing it in water would extinguish it, eh? Nevermind that the real sun exists in a vacuum in space. But it was a convenient way to remove that element from the plot and wrap up the movie.
The Earth populated of Marvel Comics is filled with geniuses beyond what we have ever seen in our real world. People like Reed Richards (aka Mr. Fantastic), Dr. Victor Von Doom, Tony Stark (aka Iron Man) just to name a few, place the level of 'ambient' science and technology beyond that which exists or could exist in our real world.
In Marvel Comics, just as the movies the time is today, just the circumstances the technology of super beings brings is vastly different.
As it relates to events within the history of the Marvel Comics Universe, everything shown in the film was extremely plausible for the year 2004.
I just can't wait until they progress the story farther...
I really want to see what is done to get 'Venom' into the movie Marvel Universe... Will there be a few 'Secret Wars' scenes or will that be played out in a 'comic styled' opening sequence? Will they even attempt to bring 'Venom' into the picture? If so, will they bring in the Fantastic Four, whom helped Spidey more then once with the symbiot.
In any case, I am very excited about the prospects of Hobgoblin making an appearance in the next movie. As for Doc Ock, it was left wide open for him to return, as the AI Arms bring him to the surface and find a way to resuscitate him, leaving his mind a wreck from the lack of oxygen, yet filled with a criminal genius, perhaps forgetting who Peter Parker is or perhaps not caring...
If you ignore the other uses of a tool, does that make the tool less useful, or you less useful?
I was bitten by a spider over 8 years ago, and I still have not developed any super powers. If anything, I am less powerful now than I was 8 years ago. Spider bites do not work as advertised.
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Mod this up! Funniest post of the bunch!
"If you could only see what I've seen with your eyes..." - Roy Batty
Suspend your frickin' belief!
Do some more research. What makes fusion/fission warheads more powerfull than fission alone is not the uncontrollable fusion reaction. Fission needs neutrons.... lots of them. Fusion reactions pack a massive neutron flux. The fusionable material in those bombs is there to "turbocharge" the neutron flux, which causes MORE of the fissonable material to react.
The fusion reaction is a catalyst, not the main source of the increased power. It increases the efficiancy of the fission reaction.
...the "ground rules of the universe" people believe are being violated are complately inane, archaic things that 95% of the Spider-man 2 viewing audience didn't notice and wouldn't give a shit about.
It's fucking Spider-man 2. Enjoy the goddamn movie. Am I the only one who has an imagination that allows me to explain the things I see in a film?
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Can you really see that many stars in the sky with all lights in Manhattan?
Continuity:
Where the hell is the Black Cat???
Had really hoped that we'd see either Jenifer Garner or Angelina Jolie as the Black cat... Sigh..
Don't get me wrong; I've always had a thing for redheads, so the movies skipping a few GFs and sticking to Dunst as MJ as the only GF is fine with me..
people bitten by spiders don't generally become ultra-powerful
Aw! They do too!
30 mistakes? Big deal! LOTR 1 has 223. With the same number in LOTR 2 and 131 in LOTR 3. lots of movies do. so what?
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There are many nitpicker sites on the net...
One of my favorites is Nitpicker Central.
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I for one welcome these mistake making cartoon to real life movie maker OVERLORDS..
Also, people bitten by spiders don't generally become ultra-powerful.
Like, it was like, a radioactive spider, man. Everyone, like, knows the plain ones just bite. So, like, get down to one of those nuke charged up ones and get bit.
It is just entertainment folks; move along.
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Kinda OT, but it might fit here:
One thing I always wondered about Doc Oc was what his arms ran on. AA's? neural tap? 1000 yr NiCd? I've always been a casual doc oc fan, but always wondered if there was ever covered somewhere. Just curious.
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You know, Doc had no troubles picking humans from the train (by breaking windows, perhaps doors? I cant remember, as I was telling the kid behind me to STFU and LTFM (listen the fine movie)).
And then Spiderman stops the train by holding in its both hands lots of spider "ropes". I noticed that Spiderman was a bit crushed (poor english, sorry) into the front of the train. In real life, I really doubt that the first few wagons wouldnt be completly screwed, considering the speed of the train and the amount of pressure Spidey gave. Oh, and how come that passengers didnt fall off their chairs/spots?
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that I caught was when Spiderman swoops away the two little girls (or a girl and a boy) from in front of the truck in the opening scenes. Check the velocity of the swoop, definitely faster than the speed the truck was travelling.
So Spiderman would've caused more damage to the kids than the truck would have.
But is all good. They did work hard to make it close to the comic scenes which I appreciate, and PREFER, rather than bastardizing the movie to their own taste.
Heres another one: when spiderman near the end was trying to pull out the cables from the computers, he was like uprooting plans from the ground, at 90 degree angle. But his feet and back were'nt at an angle to use all his force. Weight lifers keep a straight back and flat feet when lifting weights, and so do most people using all their strength....
But then again if that was how the comics depiced it...
"Give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you." -Nim Chimpsky
While it's not exactly what you're asking for, a movie detailing someone trying to prove a technology despite beauracracy and technophobia, the case of Dracula makes an interesting counterpoint. I can't remember where I read it, but there was an interesting comparison I read of Frankenstein and Dracula embodying opposing views of nature and technology. In Frankenstein, you have the monster created by technology essentially defeated by animalistic rage and primitive weapons (rampaging peasants with pitchforks / torches) whereas in Dracula, you have a monster of primitive and animal power who is defeated via applied science and human ingenuity. To some degree, you see the same thing in the Aliens movies. While the movies depict it as a somewhat losing battle, human beings are using higher technology to defeat and defend against an animalistic threat. That said, I think that your idea of a lone inventor trying to prove his technology could be an interesting movie plot.
More on-topic for the discussion of Spiderman 2, I don't think that it was necessarily a demonization of fusion. Honestly, I think that if you asked a sample of movie-goers what kind of energy was being generated, they may not even remember that it was called fusion, let along how it functions. Essentially, it's a plot point, a random technological device that is intended to bring great good, but has its dangers.
Lastly, I personally rather liked the movie for all its technical silliness. *shrug* It's a comic book movie. If we're going to accept people in the same Marvel Universe being able to generate huge amount sof energy in the form of eye-beams, or instantly transumte themselves into metal, let along some of the occult figures, we can accept the science being a little skewed. Heck, who says that their physics is exactly the same as ours?
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This could be in a seperate article, but didnt the trailers before the movie came out, give out a bit too much? I hate it when you can piece together the story from the trailer, hate it even more when the best action parts are shown in the ever-lengthening trailers.
I've even avoided some movies because the trailers were so descriptive.
So in Spiderman, when they got onto the train I knew: (1) The would fight for a while and Spiderman would try to stop the train, (2) and will be thrown through a bridge.
When Peter was in the coffeeshop I knew (1) car will be thrown at them (2) Peter will grab MJ and jump sideways. That was awesome action, unfortunately I'd already seen it.
Many Spiderman fans avoided the trailers so they could enjoy the movie. People love Spiderman, they know whats coming, and most people decide to go watch it from their friends' reviews. So I hope they'd quit compressing the movie into a long trailer, to the point the audience would go 'I know whats gonna happen here'.
"Give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you." -Nim Chimpsky
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As a matter of fact, I am a lawyer. But I play an actor on TV.
I am told that the radiation from tritium penetrates so poorly that standard detectors cannot read it; nothing gets through the detector housing. But you probably don't have to worry about exposure even if you do break it; hydrogen gas doesn't hang around very long, and isn't absorbed very much by building materials. You'll probably get more radiation from the concrete.
Time is Nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once... the bitch.
...are just a patch?
Damn, I hate buggy movies.
Suggest you get a part time job at your local megaplex, so you can get paid to see the movie. It's great fun, worth seeing. My wife and I went and saw the matinee today; saved a few bucks and had a great time. I don't care about the plot holes; I suspended disbelief the moment I walked in the theatre.
;-)
It's not the same as the comicbook and actually I'm glad. It's nice to see a creative, superbly executed interpretation. The comics have a nostalgic place in my heart (and millions of other boomers') but I kind of like this modernized version. In the old Spidey comicbooks, it was the early Sixties and Peter and his fellow male H.S. students wore ties , V-neck sweaters and nice pants; this was a public school for chrissakes.
I don't miss the web devices; it was a bit of a kludge to complete the arachnid effect. It's about as believable that webbing shoots out of his wrists as any of his other powers. As some others have pointed out, the amount of energy he burns must be tremendous; yet, he never seems to eat--well, except for a piece of chocolate cake and a glass of milk served by his landlord's daughter. (There's a plot thread that they never followed up on. She's clearly interested in Peter but maybe we have to wait until the next movie to drop the other shoe.)
The in-air battle scenes between Spidey and Doc Ock were phenomenal, better than the ones with Green Goblin (though we may get a reprise of a Spidey vs. Gobby battle or two in 2007).
I liked the fact that MJ and Aunt May were rather spunky and took a few swats at the bad guys themselves. The women in a lot of these super hero movies seem to be mere decoration, but these two are the exceptions.
Go see it in a theatre with a large screen, decent surround sound, sub woofers etc. It's better than watching a downloaded AVI on your computer screen and more social, besides
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Forgive me if someome already mentioned this...
I remember a short story by a famous sci-fi author (Larry Niven comes to mind, but this could be wrong. Edited by LN maybe?) where he pontificated on the idea of Superman.
Questions that came to his mind included:
-Wouldn't Superman's super-piss shoot through the bottom of toilet bowl?
-After doing Lois Lane, wouldn't the Supersperm result in 1,000,000 (or so) super babies?
Anyone know the story I am referring to?
And, in a feeble attempt to try to be on topic of Spiderman...
Would Spiderman, with his wrist web-sticky-stuff, be idolized by the bondage community?
I think there's one in Chinatown
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c'mon people. It's a movie for crist sakes. It is designed to make us forget our craptastic lives for a couple of hours; not be the end-all be-all of existance. Hear me MOVIE.
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Heavy water... wasn't that the stuff that was used to rehydrate the dehydrated thugs in the Batman Movie, producing thugs who "were made of anti-matter" and therefore disappeared when struck? ^_^ Yet another instance of misuse of science in comic book movies, although the campy Batman series back then could be forgiven given as the abuse of science was a large part of the show.
"We will put the dust into the Bat Dust Analyzer to sort out the dehydrated UN Members" (likely not a correct quote... IMDB doesn't have it listed and it's been a while since I saw the movie)
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The list of "mistakes" at that website are 90% utterly stupid, and the ones that aren't are mistakes like "in one scene a rip in spiderman's costume is spanned by 1 thread, and by 2 in another". For nearly every "mistake/error" listed a reasonable explanation can be made.
For example, there were 2 or 3 that made bones about chairs being out of place after a scene change. Come on, people! There are other people in the world besides Peter Parker, Octavius, MJ, and Aunt May. Did anyone ever stop to think that maybe there's an underpaid custodial worker moving chairs around?
That's 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back, thanks to all the idiots who submitted "bloopers" so they could see their own names on the web.
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*cough* mistakes *cough*? Those are features.
The post anonymously option you are [not] attempting to use is one that isn't available to your user.
There is also that pesky problem that tritium can be incorporated into body tissue, as it's an isotope of hydrogen. Furthermore, it's been known for a while that "heavy" water, and the incorporation of heavy isotopes of hydrogen into proteins, can have unexpected impact on metabolic function.
That said, if this is manufactured the way I think it is, the tritium is chemically bound in the plastic, not merely encased as with tritium gun sights. There might be a problem if the sign was burnt, or ground into dust and inhaled... but normal breakage is unlikely to present a significant contamination hazard.
You mean to sugest there can't be explosions in space?
Thats just stupid.
pointing out the fact that it was actually Richard Clarke (the _terrorism_ guy) and the flight ban had been lifted
Guess who Clarke worked for at the time?
1. There is no elevated trains in downtown/midtown Manhattan
This is a movie, not the real world.
2. Shots are frequently switching between a background of midtown, brooklyn, queens, and the village.
This is a movie, not the real world.
3. There is no D'Agostinos on St. Marks 4. etc, etc, etc
This is a movie, not the real world. Repeat till it sinks in. They could have the WTC towers still standing, if they wanted to.