Like I said, 99% of these messages could be dropped, they'd never be able to confirm it.
As for the 1% that do need to be sent (secret free email accounts of the spammer checking up on you), you'd need to be able to figure out which addresses those were. Not so easy. But we do have a few clues. An AOL or hotmail account is more likely than blah@blah.demon.co.uk, for instance. I dunno, was really hoping someone more clever than I could fill in that part.
Then again, with all the loopholes, it seems they never intend to pay one red cent. Maybe they won't even go to the trouble of checking up on the fools that go for it... I mean, if they won't pay anyway, why should they care if someone were really spamming or not? Besides, if they just want to know how successful they are, they still have their spam-response rates to show them that.
So build a honeypot that looks like a real SMTP. If it's on an external box, there's no way that the spam daemon (spamd?) would be able to tell it was being fooled.
Now, the test messages, that's a toughy. But if the honeypot maintains a list, I wonder if there is any way to determine which emails are the silent drops. Forward only those...
Hell, so that they don't start wondering that the response rate is just too low, we could send a bunch (though nothing so excessive that it gets your service terminated) to that idiot that likes spam.
Even with 4 byte words (or 8 byte words on some monster big iron), 4000 bytes is not enough for all but the tiniest gif file. Now, gif being a 256 color only format, with no serious compression and an inability to depict sharp photographs of any significant resolution, I contend that no,
Yes, because windmills big enough to generate usable electricity never chop little birdies in half. Solar panels don't cause microclimate changes.
Not that I'm against him building a small hyrdro plant of some sort, but the nutcase manner in which you comment implies that you'd be against this, no matter how he planned on generating electricity.
On the great scale, Phillip Morris's sins are so few and minimal compared to Gator. I mean, they only sell lung cancer to 13 yr olds that want to be cool...
On the other hand, Gator inflicts its agony on the customers I support. I suppose my perspective would be different, if I were a surgeon who did lung transplants.
There is something to be said of selectively growing slight mutations over a period of half a millenia as safe.
In contrast, cutting and pasting large sequences of alien DNA into our food supply (or even into golf course lawns), might just be a bad idea. Not that I'm totally against it, but why are we in such a fucking hurry? Is the golfing industry about to collapse, and send thousands of starving green jackets into an already barren job market?
Is Iran developing weapons of grass destruction?
Seriously, let them play with it in the lab. And have laws on the books where if it makes it outside that lab prior to a 3 decade waiting period, we dissolve the corporation and put all senior management in Levinworth for the rest of their lives.
If it's *such* a cool idea (and admittedly, there are more than a few in genetic engineering), then waiting 30 years to reap the billions can't be so horrible.
I like the idea of frankenfoods. Where can I buy some? This is just the thing to make we want to go in the grocery store, and I can't help but think that they are missing a opportunity here.
It's almost as bad as the lack of a McMadCow burger...
Ah, but you can indeed have a permanent (or several) identity that is essentially anonymous. All you need to do is be able to prove that you are the same anonymous guy #718 that said something last week... rather simple, with crypto keys.
As for even more draconian laws being passed, well, there's not much that I can say on that issue. You're likely right. Even then, I'm going to make it tough for them to screw with meta. If you'd like, I'm sure I could arrange a tour of the network for you...
Shame there is so little interest in Metanet. I long for the day some legal dept. weeny tries to figure out how to C&D a a software project hosted there...
Yeh, right. You're fancy expensive switches *might* impress the novice, but what happens when you need to support your legacy systems?
No rackmount arcnet hub, for the TRS-80 Model II that runs the thermostat software?
No Synoptics 3030 with 3 Lattistalk blades (switched localtalk) for those old Mac SE's running the custom, undocumented Filemaker db's?
What about econet, 4mps token ring or FDDI? Do you have any ATM25 or ATM155 for those Alcatel DSL modems that will do atm rather than ethernet?
My god man, where is the HIPPI? Or are you just going to leave that Cray J932 standalone? And if you do, how will you ever crank your numbers up at seti@home?
Sure, gigabit is fine for all these newer systems, but unless you want to spend millions rewriting the software that does water management for toilet flushing, then where are you at? Don't believe the X10 lies, folks... your old-fashioned wired smarthome is a work of art, and nothing is ever going to approach its reliability.
As someone that expects to get shitcanned tomorrow (though not do to outsourcing traitors), I can say with no little amount of certainty that it would take many, many days of training for someone to replace me at even 50% of my performance.
I just hope that my absence hurts them as much as it possibly can. Shame I couldn't have waited a few months to screw up, that would really have put them to the fire. Oh well.
In this job market? That's like being thrown out of the plane without a parachute, and failing to grab the "mixed drink umbrella" at the door.
There are those that will claim it's "better than nothing" and you shouldn't pass up the chance to grab one, but really, be honest. How much good can it possibly do you?
Not an IBM employee, wish I was. Having my own token ring segment, complete with an OS/2 v1 286 machine, I feel like an adopted employee though. Does that count?
Or how about my attempts to find a microchannel localtalk nic for my RS6000, so I can have the most bastardized ltalk network ever?
I even have an old blue suit somewhere, though I think my gut is too big nowdays to wear it...
Not yet on the 3 phase... gonna install it in a shed I'm building later this summer, to run a vaxen of mine.;)
Besides, if I can just score a copy of Unicos, I'm sure I can trade it somewhere for MVS. You'd be suprised what kind of warez scene a guy like myself can inspire...
Truthfully, if I could get it off a loading dock somewhere for salvage price, I would definitely grab it. A place I worked for a few years back landfilled a HP 1000 series (had to be 1960s, not 70s) rather than give it to me. As if it could ever have been any kind of liability. I wanted to cry.
I'm under 30, and I even have my own PDP-11/04. Still need to get it up and running, but it takes time to track down all the pieces I need.
Then again, I just got my rackmount arcnet hub from ebay a few days back, so don't think me typical.;)
Anyone know where I can get my own s370? Mainframes are cool, and I shouldn't be deprived of one... (also interested in old CDC or Data General stuff).
"It works" in your case, means that "cheating works". That is, your vote counts slightly more than mine, because I was honest, and you weren't. Classic prisoner's dilema, I believe.
You can't expect me to not cheat, though. And when we all start cheating, then it gets really fucked up. So, you launched the first nuke, and declare victory. Now, everyone is launching all the nukes, and there is no safe place left for anyone.
Now, if we all play fair (or in this case, even just a large majority), then we get more choice, more control... and all we have to do, is vote for the candidates that we really want, and not to throw monkey wrenches in the count of the ones you don't really want.
Now, I did mention multiple fallacies. The other one being, that Buchanan is human. He is really some proto-monkey, and therefor ineligible to run for public office.
I suppose I agree that it just can't work, but not because it's not an elegant method of measuring choice.... rather, there are too many people who would lie, knowing that they could make their votes slightly more important. Shameful.
Are you suggesting that there is no such thing as an idiot? Or that only they are exceedingly rare in the public world, or especially on slashdot?
I doubt that you are doing so, if you are, you have proven the point opposite of the one you are supporting.
So, if you don't think idiots are so rare, why the problem with me speaking of them? Do you come from some strange polynesian culture where cretinish imbecility is a cultural taboo?
Do you have a loved one that is mentally retarded? If this is so, please know that I harbor them no ill feelings, and would be exceptionally polite if I ever met them. Somehow, the idiots that annoy me tend to manage rather average scores on IQ tests.
Or maybe, just maybe, you are one of the idiots I speak of. If so, feel free to visit me at my home. You may attempt this "punch in the face" knowing that I'm not some pussy-assed faggot like yourself and that I won't call the cops. I won't hide, either, behind any literal or figurative shield. Bring it on.
In the meantime, though, I hope you don't mind if I explain to the exalted slashdot readership about the gaps... nay, leaps... hrmm. About the chasms of logic that you are using in this piddly, flamish little post of yours. What would you expect this punch, even if successful, to accomplish? Please tell me that you would hope that it brought some primitive level of satisfaction, difficult to describe. I beg this of you, because, well, all the other explanations would be so, so fucking lame.
Let's see, there is: #1 Teach me a lesson. #2 Vengeance for a trivial, even debatable slight/crime/insult. #3 Deterrence for other would-be trolls. #4 Moral righteousness. #5 Tradition. #6 Because the woman that is your sister and wife would lose all respect for you.
Ok, so that last one is at least understandable. With family relations as close and inbred as yours, it is truly a big deal if some stranger cityslicker like myself causes social chaos. If this is the case, you only need publically post a scanned image both your birth certificates and the marriage license, and I will submit a formal, public apology. While others would joke at your expense about the shallow end of the gene pool, a learned man like myself knows that your incest provides a valuable genetic service to humanity, namely that of concentrating birth defects in the worthless white trash demographic.
For those of you who have read til this point, I only have three things left to say. My original post was quite serious, more so than you will believe. There is no denial, I am a troll. And finally, I just went to the bathroom, and shat a big turd that bears an uncanny, almost unholy resembalance to Jay Leno. He/it will be known from this point on, as Turd Leno.
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Some mails might need to be delivered. I wouldn't think that it would be more than 1 or 2 a day, tops... but those would be the giveaway.
Now, figure out which addresses you need to do that with, then do what you said for all the rest. Then they really are none the wiser.
Like I said, 99% of these messages could be dropped, they'd never be able to confirm it.
As for the 1% that do need to be sent (secret free email accounts of the spammer checking up on you), you'd need to be able to figure out which addresses those were. Not so easy. But we do have a few clues. An AOL or hotmail account is more likely than blah@blah.demon.co.uk, for instance. I dunno, was really hoping someone more clever than I could fill in that part.
Then again, with all the loopholes, it seems they never intend to pay one red cent. Maybe they won't even go to the trouble of checking up on the fools that go for it... I mean, if they won't pay anyway, why should they care if someone were really spamming or not? Besides, if they just want to know how successful they are, they still have their spam-response rates to show them that.
So build a honeypot that looks like a real SMTP. If it's on an external box, there's no way that the spam daemon (spamd?) would be able to tell it was being fooled.
Now, the test messages, that's a toughy. But if the honeypot maintains a list, I wonder if there is any way to determine which emails are the silent drops. Forward only those...
Hell, so that they don't start wondering that the response rate is just too low, we could send a bunch (though nothing so excessive that it gets your service terminated) to that idiot that likes spam.
Even with 4 byte words (or 8 byte words on some monster big iron), 4000 bytes is not enough for all but the tiniest gif file. Now, gif being a 256 color only format, with no serious compression and an inability to depict sharp photographs of any significant resolution, I contend that no,
A picture is not ~1000 words.
www.halted.com
They just had some $99 4U atx cases, and $50 2U cases (with PS no less).
No it's not, it's a anti-theft feature. What you can't hear, you can't pirate. Nice try though, music thief.
Yes, because windmills big enough to generate usable electricity never chop little birdies in half. Solar panels don't cause microclimate changes.
Not that I'm against him building a small hyrdro plant of some sort, but the nutcase manner in which you comment implies that you'd be against this, no matter how he planned on generating electricity.
On the great scale, Phillip Morris's sins are so few and minimal compared to Gator. I mean, they only sell lung cancer to 13 yr olds that want to be cool...
On the other hand, Gator inflicts its agony on the customers I support. I suppose my perspective would be different, if I were a surgeon who did lung transplants.
Just lost my mod points... damn. The parent should be modded up, and the guy that modded it troll likely works in HR at Lying Rat Bastards Inc.
There is something to be said of selectively growing slight mutations over a period of half a millenia as safe.
In contrast, cutting and pasting large sequences of alien DNA into our food supply (or even into golf course lawns), might just be a bad idea. Not that I'm totally against it, but why are we in such a fucking hurry? Is the golfing industry about to collapse, and send thousands of starving green jackets into an already barren job market?
Is Iran developing weapons of grass destruction?
Seriously, let them play with it in the lab. And have laws on the books where if it makes it outside that lab prior to a 3 decade waiting period, we dissolve the corporation and put all senior management in Levinworth for the rest of their lives.
If it's *such* a cool idea (and admittedly, there are more than a few in genetic engineering), then waiting 30 years to reap the billions can't be so horrible.
I like the idea of frankenfoods. Where can I buy some? This is just the thing to make we want to go in the grocery store, and I can't help but think that they are missing a opportunity here.
It's almost as bad as the lack of a McMadCow burger...
Ah, but you can indeed have a permanent (or several) identity that is essentially anonymous. All you need to do is be able to prove that you are the same anonymous guy #718 that said something last week... rather simple, with crypto keys.
As for even more draconian laws being passed, well, there's not much that I can say on that issue. You're likely right. Even then, I'm going to make it tough for them to screw with meta. If you'd like, I'm sure I could arrange a tour of the network for you...
Shame there is so little interest in Metanet. I long for the day some legal dept. weeny tries to figure out how to C&D a a software project hosted there...
Yeh, right. You're fancy expensive switches *might* impress the novice, but what happens when you need to support your legacy systems?
No rackmount arcnet hub, for the TRS-80 Model II that runs the thermostat software?
No Synoptics 3030 with 3 Lattistalk blades (switched localtalk) for those old Mac SE's running the custom, undocumented Filemaker db's?
What about econet, 4mps token ring or FDDI? Do you have any ATM25 or ATM155 for those Alcatel DSL modems that will do atm rather than ethernet?
My god man, where is the HIPPI? Or are you just going to leave that Cray J932 standalone? And if you do, how will you ever crank your numbers up at seti@home?
Sure, gigabit is fine for all these newer systems, but unless you want to spend millions rewriting the software that does water management for toilet flushing, then where are you at? Don't believe the X10 lies, folks... your old-fashioned wired smarthome is a work of art, and nothing is ever going to approach its reliability.
I don't usually respond to sigs, but you made a horrible mistake.
Absolut Vodka corrupts absolutely.
As someone that expects to get shitcanned tomorrow (though not do to outsourcing traitors), I can say with no little amount of certainty that it would take many, many days of training for someone to replace me at even 50% of my performance.
I just hope that my absence hurts them as much as it possibly can. Shame I couldn't have waited a few months to screw up, that would really have put them to the fire. Oh well.
In this job market? That's like being thrown out of the plane without a parachute, and failing to grab the "mixed drink umbrella" at the door.
There are those that will claim it's "better than nothing" and you shouldn't pass up the chance to grab one, but really, be honest. How much good can it possibly do you?
Not an IBM employee, wish I was. Having my own token ring segment, complete with an OS/2 v1 286 machine, I feel like an adopted employee though. Does that count?
Or how about my attempts to find a microchannel localtalk nic for my RS6000, so I can have the most bastardized ltalk network ever?
I even have an old blue suit somewhere, though I think my gut is too big nowdays to wear it...
What makes you think I only have 1? Gave one to a friend at work, but I still have a few...
Even minus the gold wiring?
I'm the kind of guy to spend the next 3 years re-wiring it with plain copper.
Not yet on the 3 phase... gonna install it in a shed I'm building later this summer, to run a vaxen of mine. ;)
Besides, if I can just score a copy of Unicos, I'm sure I can trade it somewhere for MVS. You'd be suprised what kind of warez scene a guy like myself can inspire...
Truthfully, if I could get it off a loading dock somewhere for salvage price, I would definitely grab it. A place I worked for a few years back landfilled a HP 1000 series (had to be 1960s, not 70s) rather than give it to me. As if it could ever have been any kind of liability. I wanted to cry.
I'm under 30, and I even have my own PDP-11/04. Still need to get it up and running, but it takes time to track down all the pieces I need.
;)
Then again, I just got my rackmount arcnet hub from ebay a few days back, so don't think me typical.
Anyone know where I can get my own s370? Mainframes are cool, and I shouldn't be deprived of one... (also interested in old CDC or Data General stuff).
The feeb one over in the corner drooling blue glowing liquid is user32.dll...
Several slight fallacies.
"It works" in your case, means that "cheating works". That is, your vote counts slightly more than mine, because I was honest, and you weren't. Classic prisoner's dilema, I believe.
You can't expect me to not cheat, though. And when we all start cheating, then it gets really fucked up. So, you launched the first nuke, and declare victory. Now, everyone is launching all the nukes, and there is no safe place left for anyone.
Now, if we all play fair (or in this case, even just a large majority), then we get more choice, more control... and all we have to do, is vote for the candidates that we really want, and not to throw monkey wrenches in the count of the ones you don't really want.
Now, I did mention multiple fallacies. The other one being, that Buchanan is human. He is really some proto-monkey, and therefor ineligible to run for public office.
I suppose I agree that it just can't work, but not because it's not an elegant method of measuring choice.... rather, there are too many people who would lie, knowing that they could make their votes slightly more important. Shameful.
Are you suggesting that there is no such thing as an idiot? Or that only they are exceedingly rare in the public world, or especially on slashdot?
I doubt that you are doing so, if you are, you have proven the point opposite of the one you are supporting.
So, if you don't think idiots are so rare, why the problem with me speaking of them? Do you come from some strange polynesian culture where cretinish imbecility is a cultural taboo?
Do you have a loved one that is mentally retarded? If this is so, please know that I harbor them no ill feelings, and would be exceptionally polite if I ever met them. Somehow, the idiots that annoy me tend to manage rather average scores on IQ tests.
Or maybe, just maybe, you are one of the idiots I speak of. If so, feel free to visit me at my home. You may attempt this "punch in the face" knowing that I'm not some pussy-assed faggot like yourself and that I won't call the cops. I won't hide, either, behind any literal or figurative shield. Bring it on.
In the meantime, though, I hope you don't mind if I explain to the exalted slashdot readership about the gaps... nay, leaps... hrmm. About the chasms of logic that you are using in this piddly, flamish little post of yours. What would you expect this punch, even if successful, to accomplish? Please tell me that you would hope that it brought some primitive level of satisfaction, difficult to describe. I beg this of you, because, well, all the other explanations would be so, so fucking lame.
Let's see, there is:
#1 Teach me a lesson.
#2 Vengeance for a trivial, even debatable slight/crime/insult.
#3 Deterrence for other would-be trolls.
#4 Moral righteousness.
#5 Tradition.
#6 Because the woman that is your sister and wife would lose all respect for you.
Ok, so that last one is at least understandable. With family relations as close and inbred as yours, it is truly a big deal if some stranger cityslicker like myself causes social chaos. If this is the case, you only need publically post a scanned image both your birth certificates and the marriage license, and I will submit a formal, public apology. While others would joke at your expense about the shallow end of the gene pool, a learned man like myself knows that your incest provides a valuable genetic service to humanity, namely that of concentrating birth defects in the worthless white trash demographic.
For those of you who have read til this point, I only have three things left to say. My original post was quite serious, more so than you will believe. There is no denial, I am a troll. And finally, I just went to the bathroom, and shat a big turd that bears an uncanny, almost unholy resembalance to Jay Leno. He/it will be known from this point on, as Turd Leno.