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mnmonte writes "Yesterday morning Opte.org announced that they have successfully mapped the entire internet. They are currently compiling a LGL map for all to see. Currently they have a LGL map that has 'over 5 million edges and has an estimated 50 million hop count'. Also only took them 252.68 hours to complete."
Maybe I'll finally be able to find out where I took that wrong turn...
"Also only took them 252.68 hours to complete."
If they can do all that, then they likely won't suffer too much from the slashdot effect. That is unless, enough of us get our grubbies on their 2.8meg PNG map from Nov 23...
"Mapping engine status: Stalled (Damn Slashdot Bastards!)"
I know it's a LGL map, but wouldn't it be cooler to position connections on a mock surface of our planet? That might actually be something to behold. These maps just appear to be link/traffic pointers or something to that effect.
So when are one of us nerds going to invent a better way to tell what geographical location is associated with what IP/URL? Servers could have a kind of location grid address. That'd be neat. That way you could tell how far your data was going, and where. You could avoid posting in certain countries, or try to post in others. The flipside would be that it would cut back on privacy and the anonymity that makes the web special. Wouldn't it be kinda scary if your IP told people where to find you? I can think of a few angry gamers that might want to do me in, I don't know about you!!!
Where do I got my Pron A-Z?
I'll print it and give it to my wife. If she ever needs directions again on the web, I'll give her the map, slap my forhead and mumble 'oh yeah, that's right : women can't read maps'
:-)
ooh i'm so bad
When will I end this grieving ? When will my future begin ?
I keep getting lost on the Information Super Highway. I mean, if you miss an offramp it's literally microseconds until the next one!
Will I be able to get one of these for my SatNav?
Quick! They've done something really cool and clever. Let's Slashdot them back to the stone age. That'll teach them!
Reality is defined by the maddest person in the room
"Hey, I can see my house from up here!"
Trolling is a art,
How many copies of the goatse guy d'you think are in there?
Carousel is a lie!
Their site seems to be crawling. I thought for a minute we'd have to take them off the map.
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suwain_2
What's more important, the location of a website's server or the location of a website's webmaster?
... I'll be starting to produce maps of IP addresses to latitude/longitude by IP address soon... Been sourcing the data.(See the sig.)
Simon
Physicists get Hadrons!
...and it only took 6 minutes to /. their server.
"...all the labours of the ages, all the devotion, all the inspiration, all the noonday brightness..." yada yada
So now I finally know why the internet is so damned slow... people are purposely wasting bandwidth trying to 'map out' the internet, and all this time I thought it was a DDOS attack... or at the very least some new worm...silly me.
I wonder if there are people driving around during rush hour trying to 'map out' the city...
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Will it work with the GPS system?
I think this is neat. They are apparently releasing the map data itself, not just the pretty pictures. This means that the map is usable for research. There are lots of things you could look at, from average network distance between nodes to routing redundancy and who knows what else. Since it's open source, maybe others can come along and improve it, perhaps associating the nodes with geographical location.
I see your point. Long/Lat is enough I guess, eh? Would be nice to have mine calculated from my current machine. Anyone know of a GPS software prog that works over the internet from your machine? See my point?
Wouldn't it be kinda scary if your IP told people where to find you?
Umm... this has been possible for quite a while: See Geobutton: http://www.geobutton.com/IpLocator.htm
Is this not basically a map of the PSTN with webservers instead of phones at the end of the line or am I missing something here.
Do not try to read the dupe, thats impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth
What truth?
There is no dupe
The IP map I'm (slowly) making will locate you to a city, eventually. It's only been going for about 15 days atm, but we're already up at ~15-20% successful at locating cities, according to visitors :-)
/24 for the time being, although with DSL companies giving static /29's I'll probably adapt to that soon enough...
I doubt that locating to city has any privacy implications, and I'm only doing it to
Simon
Physicists get Hadrons!
How do they check for outages. IF I'm going from A->B for the first time and suddenly the route drops or changes surely that changes the map. So any idea of how many times they check a route?
Rus
Cheap UK and US VPS
Torrent of their images, data, VRML, etc.
"[A] high IQ is like a Jeep; you will still get stuck, just farther from help!" --Just d' FAQs, c.g.a
The 'You are Here' arrow?
Sure makes for a nice project I just threw up a /26 for some hosts they're not included in the map, so aside from novelty what real purpose does this serve? I'm not trolling I'm just trying to look at this from a different perspective outside of 'yay look what I did'.
Side note to clarify those scared clueless crybabies who made a statement about the "magic" perl script I posted, please read on cluebie. You should check wtf your talking about the script does nothing more than what it just did scare luzers and makes for a nice honeypot. FYI the script is from Deception Tool Kit, if you dug around you would know this. Only line I added was at the bottom, which is nothing more than print
MoFscker
I'm not in Belleville, but it says I am. See my point?
> So when are one of us nerds going to invent a better way to tell what geographical location is associated with what IP/URL? Servers could have a kind of location grid address.
IPv6. Plenty of address space to store the longitude / latitude. IMO too many geeks around here hate the idea of IPv6, and "nat is good enough" and all IPv4 naysayers just don't know how to program a net-worthy application.
Actualy you can encode your Lat and Long into your DNS record it's a pretty much unused tag but it's there. With this you could do a reverse lookup on a an IP and then forward lookup the location.
No sir I dont like it.
You told me I was from Washington State. I'm from TX. Lots of work to do here. (i submitted a correction)
Do they have a packet saying 'can you hear me now'?
Beep beep.
Will this be compatible with OnStar?
[grin] It sort of guesses wrong on purpose if it doesn't know - my theory is that people are more likely to correct it if it's wildly wrong than slightly wrong :-)
:-)
:-))
I'm working on the lat/long stuff this weekend, then there's a bunch of networks that can be automatically located. With this map of the net, I can start intelligently looking at IP's as well, rather than probing random ones that might not exist
Tx for the correction
Simon
Physicists get Hadrons!
What point??? While it may not pinpoint *your* location, it *does* show what provider you are connected to, and the exact location of that provider... If someone wants to find you badly enough, knowing where the provider is located is a good start... From there, the provider's records can be subpoenaed (or an employee can be bribed, etc) to determine where *you* connected to the provider.
If it is broadband, the provider knows exactly where you are. If dialup, the phone company knows where to find you...
"Also only took them 252.68 hours to complete" is also the amount of time before their slashdotted servers will be back up to make the file available for download!
(1st sig) If this were a snappy sig, you'd be reading it right now. (2nd sig) I'm a karma whore. >Insert FUD here
As a woman I am betting that most of you men would still refuse to stop and ask for directions, no matter how big the map is.
You may want to narrow down how new cities are entered. Right now you have about a dozen different cities that are all Toronto, Ontario.
They're the big red "splat" on the map right about now...
I would have to know my Lat/Long to do this. I don't have GPS, so how am I going to find out? In order for society to grow forward and advance into a new tech era, it would be smart if we knew where things were -- exactly, at all times. I'd say that we're currently in the positioning stone age. Still a ton of things to do yet!
I envision a society that has many virtual road signs and better targeting systems, so you can have autopiolot in cars. Cars could move faster with this tech, and we could have more leasure time on the ride to work. I'd love to play Doom 5 on the 401. This would also eliminate traffic jams because your car would know the path of least resistance, compared to all the ohter cars.
That'd make the landscape more appealing to look at and you could turn off advertising. Knowing where things are would be a lot easier with a better standard, too.
I suppose that is real-time, depending on what is is.
Probably should be labeled: Best Used By November 20, 2003.
(Yes there is a subtle joke in that.)
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
In any case, I think that's missing the original poster's point, who said it would be scary if your IP told people where to find you, not who your ISP is.
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
A "You Are Here" sign... Reminds me the HHGTTG and the cookie machine which drove the wife crazy.
4Z5TX
So when are one of us nerds going to invent a better way to tell what geographical location is associated with what IP/URL?"
Geo::IP [cpan.org] is per-country, or per-city if you pay for it and the city's in america.
Google did something using zip-codes it found on websites to identify a country. That's useful, because the location of your webserver has sod-all relevance to the location of anybody using it, whereas zip codes are the company address. Actually it wasn't google, but someone winning a google competition.
If someone wanted to use the WHOIS data, they all have zipcodes too, although you'd have to ask nanog'rs where to get the full list of domain-registrar addresses. (or ask spammers...)
There should be a UK post-code database somewhere, which has geographic regions. It's rather expensive though, especially given that the public paid for it to be compiled.
Even if all you can find is a city name on someone's website, you can compare that against a public-domain database of all cities in the world [xplanet.sourceforge.net], to get a location. If you can tell the difference between namesake towns, that is. I'm in London but not in Canada.
Someone had an extension to Geo::IP, where they were asking website visitors to volunteer their approximate locations, then using that to map end-users.
And of course, many US servers have their lat/long in a database somewhere for precisely this sort of mapping.
Would it be possible to convert this data for use with kstars? the "star" magnitude could be "number of links" or according to uptime or whatever.
"It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful." - Anton LaVey
Whois sometimes gives valid location information, but for our company it's seriously scrambled.
Geobutton thinks I'm in a city about 1000km from where I really am, so it's obviously not totally reliable either.
I'm working on a mirror of the pretty pictures. It's available at http://leela.lasthome.net/maps/.
Only on slashdot can a posting be rated "Score -1, Insightful".
I guess that black hole on the map is where OPTE used to be.
I know, I am aptly named. But I just want to learn. Is that so bad?
I'm having troubles understanding conceptually how this is possible?
Did they spider every registered domain? Is that list available?
Or did they just spider, like google? In that case, how do they know they didn't miss some?
Assuming they did, I'll be the party pooper.
*registers theonetheymissed.com*
HAHA! They do NOT have the entire internet indexed.
Clif
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Your webpage comes up pretty ugly in Opera with document CSS turned off. The problem is you're using absolutely positioned & sized divs. There is no need for that, just use tables to get the same effect that works in any browser config.
Happy Thanksgiving!
I can see my house on there...
I recommend running it thru OpenDX, with some info gleaned from other sources. Remember the value of the data isn't itself. but the questions asked.
For the adventerous how about converting the whole thing to SVG?
It's VRML with the "hello.jpg" texture mapped on. DISGUSTING!
Yeah, id love that then I would be able to block Israel and China!
The large map is available here.
Douglas P. Price
Wjhat's it mean? Wnat is what? /.ed so i can't read it if it answeres this.
The FA is
You're one brave man! /me starts humming "another one bites the dust"...
Yeah, I'm working on it. One of the problems of free-text entry is that people often re-type-in a city name....
:-)
I've got a big list of cities now, so I should be able to make the 'type-in' thing mail me to add it, rather than just trust the name. If I spell that out, perhaps people will look a little more carefully for their name.
A bit of de-duping is certainly in order, though
Simon
Physicists get Hadrons!
Just an idea, maybe you could use Wikipedia's lists of locations, such as its list of Flemish municipalities instead of letting users choose them by themselves.
Also, how do you handle ISP's with dynamic IP's? Especially with dial-up, the same IP can be in totally different locations on different times.
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Also only took them 252.68 hours to complete.
How long did it take for the map to become obsolete?
Seriously, this is not possible. How many new hosts get added to the internet in 252.68 hours? It's more than ten days!
The internet is 1-dimensional? They must be describing it metaphorically. Because it sure as hell has a geometry, and an N-dimensional geometry at that (where N is larger than 1, even if I don't know the exact value).
For example, I've experimenting with networks that have a regular geometry, where every router might have 6 links to other routers, arranged in a 3d grid type of geometry. In the logical sense, a router is certainly "to the right" of another, or "above" another. In such a network, it's easy to see that it has 3 dimensions. With the internet, the geometry is very irregular, even 'organic'.
All that said, should I Subject this post with "Fr0st t3chn1cal p0ts" ? Even an hour later, everything seems to be lame kiddy banter....
Huh. No big deal ... I can see that every morning when I rub the sleep out of my eyes.
The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
I propose that someone add Radioactive Symbols where http://www.opte.org/ used to be in the map, since their server had a meltdown.
"To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the human spirit." -Stephen Hawking
I don't really mind what people use, so long as it makes sense.
:-) which ought to cope with whatever people type in. If it's not recognised, the system will then try a soundex match on the name, and present a list, or ask for a new name. Only the recognised names will then get through (which will help with the dupes as well :-) This isn't ready yet, but it will be soon...
/29's over (eg) ADSL ...
I now have some 15000 or so place-names in Belgium (not in the public DB
As for dynamic IP's, well obviously I can't. I can flag up when people use an IP range for more than one city, and mark it as dynamic, but over in the UK, the infrastructure is ATM, and geography plays no part in even static
For the time being I just report back whatever was last input. I'll come up with something better once other problems are sorted out (mapping, peers, etc.)
Simon
Physicists get Hadrons!
[grin] It sort of guesses wrong on purpose if it doesn't know - my theory is that people are more likely to correct it if it's wildly wrong than slightly wrong :-)
brilliant
Of course it's a LGL map -- if it weren't, FBI would bust their ass. Distributing ilLGL maps is a crime, you know.
Follow your Euro bills at EBT
Large Graph Layout (LGL) - http://www.opte.org/maps/
Informatus Technologicus
It says i'm in kentucky, but i'm really in MI!!! WTF?!?
I looked at this a while back, and told it my correct location.
I just clicked back in to see how much the map has grown and its forgotten where i live!!
I have a static ip so any ideas why?
liqbase
Under 'find yourself' on the page.
Hi,
:-( The upshot is that I lost about 700 IP address mappings from my 8000 or so that I had, before I realised the mistake and frantically hit CTRL-C...
I tried to integrate the bogons list (unroutable networks) to speed up the auto-mapping of IP addresses using the regex rules. Unfortunately the bogons list I got was out of date, or incorrect, and included some real IP addresses. Guess yours was one
Sorry about that - I've limited the bogons to the RFC1918 addresses for now, and I've started backing up the DB nightly not weekly, so should be able to recover better if another disaster strikes. I've also started logging all the access to a file outside the DB... Paranoid ? Perhaps...
Simon.
Physicists get Hadrons!
Ahhhhhh a valid explanation :)
I thought I was goin nuts!
nm I reselected my city
The 3d model is certainly starting to fill up, and is noticably slower now on my system than a couple of weeks ago (more data points).
I read a few of your comments to other people, regarding the country entry, would it be feasible to allow GPS coords for those tech savvy ppl in the know.
liqbase
Even though my ISP is in Birmingham, UK, half a country away... your site guessed Bridport, UK, which is just down the road.
I dunno how you did it, or whether it was a complete fluke, but I'm impressed! :-)
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You are HERE ----->(X)
If you don't understand anything I post, please accept that I ate paste as a small boy...
Not to mention the ones I missed because of the large canine firewalls.
So much to do, so little bandwidth.
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Try Mozilla
The Internet has over 200 million hosts, hence it follows that a map of the network must have, roughly 200 million links. They have only 50 million links, so that is not a map of the network.
Furthermore, unless they collect this information from a wide variety of locations, all they obtain is their local routing map, not a map of the network. Currently their web site is down, so we cannot determine if they used many mapping nodes, or just a single node.
"would it be feasible to allow GPS coords for those tech savvy ppl in the know."
:-)
:-)
Great idea
I'll add it to the list of things to change (hopefully) at the weekend
Cheers,
Simon
Physicists get Hadrons!
[grin] I'd love to take the credit, but if it was a guess, it's purely a fluke...
Simon.
Physicists get Hadrons!
Link goes to goatse
It's a hell of a lot closer for me. I'm 30 miles away from where it thinks I am.
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I found the earlier story...tada...nice to see they actually have some results...Or is this just a repost? Some of the posts might lead one to believe so...If it is, I may be inclined to unleash my...ray of tryptophan!
#define CLUE 0
it was angel cake, not fairy cake, at least in the BBC radio show. Is it different in the book?
interesting paradox... :)
click-clack, front and back. I'm not moving this car otherwise.
Wow so Peter North abandoned an illustrious career in porn to graph the Net?
The map's no good .... throw it out....
I just added a new subnet today
Maybe the rain Isn't really to blame. So I'll remove the cause, But not the symptom!
heh, i have a comcast IP. i'm in NH and it says I am in Michigan.
/20 and i would do it ONCE for a large mushroom pizza.
As an aside, updating that physical location information is really easy. For instance, in north america, all our IPs are dished out by the American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN). ARIN wants any contiguous block of IPs larger than 7 to have the information filled in. if lying doesnt work (your admin figures out that you're just too far out of the way, like 2 states over) you could just bribe them. or flatter them, like "heh, wouldnt it be funny if you could update that info... hahaa too bad you cant. yeeep. cant do it. be a genius if you could though." i'm an admin for a
slashdot: where everyone yells sarcastic metaphors to themselves to understand the issue
50000000/252.68 hrs = 55 second average ping/trace time.
It's too bad that I just dialled into my ISP, and now it's out of date.
Given your location in .de and the prominence of Telekom/T-Online services here I was somewhat disappointed that the link page placed me in Waiblingen (and a plethora of other far south locations with every reload) when my IP was from an T-Online account in Berlin.
I do believe that this provider implements a rather rational mapping of IPs to geographical locations so I think you could get better results than just "somewhere in Germany".
In fact I have been monitoring the IPs I got for some time now (that ISP shuts down and reconnects a connection once every 24h) and since 20020911 any IP I got was from 217.231.136.0/18.
Just posting this for yr database, most of the folks here couldn't care less...
605413? Yes, it's a prime.
Why does the index page at leela.lasthome.net contain a perfect mebibyte of whitespace? Is it a profound way to say "there's nothing here," or do you use that exact amount of data for something? A speed test, maybe?
$ fetch http://leela.lasthome.net
Receiving leela.lasthome.net (1048576 bytes): 100%
1048576 bytes transferred in 3.2 seconds (318.49 kBps)
i've never seen a bigger waste of cpu... is there anything to be learned from this?
They think I am in a town 70 miles away.
The 1st time I encountered the internet was in the early '70s in a graduate level CS course at the University of Illinois. I remember the prof saying he had just come back from an early conference of net sites and everyone was excited because you could no longer draw the whole ARPAnet on a 3x5 index card, you now had to use an 8.5x11 piece of paper. Of course, even then the official map didn't have every site. There was a big grey box in one corner of the Center for Advanced Computation machine room that connected to the internet through U of I's router and reportedly went to some hush-hush military installation somewhere, but the map didn't show this connection at all. It was a real bulletproof router, though - made to military standards and looked like you could pound on it with a sledge as long as you wanted without causing it to drop a packet.
The "Rule of Six" says that every two people in the world are connected with each other through a maximum of six people.
So you know somebody who is a bit closer to somebody else, who is a bit closer to somebody else... and within six "hops" you reach every citizen of the earth.
I wonder, does the same go for nodes on the internet?
Or perhaps, the theoretical minimum number of hops is even lower, because routing tables in routers tend to be larger than people's circles of acquaintances, and there are much less nodes on the internet than people on earth.
I'm wondering whether or not the Internet has the same shape when viewed from any point, much like the physical universe seems homogeneous regardless of where you're looking from. For example, at any given moment, the internet might look different to ip address 24.5.96.2 from what it looks like to ip address 204.60.2.3. I'm not very educated in the ways of routers or tables, but does a packet take the same route to a destination every time? In that case, wouldn't these maps look different when drawn from different locations?
As opposed to mapping interconnected hosts, I wonder how it would look if we took internal networks (192.168./16, 10./8 172./8, etc..). Instead of mapping the Internet, it would be interesting how many computers are actually connected to the internet, even if by means of NAT, (transparent) proxy, interior routing, etc.. Although it's an impossible task to do without contributors, but I think it would be a very interesting visualization when combined with a map like this.
This looks like cool work. I followed the link to their site and the credits. Seems they credit "Peter North" and the graphviz team at AT&T Labs. I don't find Peter and graphviz via Google, but there sure is a "Steve North" there who did graphviz. I hope these folks are monitoring this and will update their page if it's wrong.
Mencken had it right. So glad that's old news.
Hey, I can see my netblock from here!
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One of the earlier works appeared in Slashdot, for instance here in 1999. But neither that column nor this hits for me on a search for military despite the military implications.
Specifically, there was a paper about this work in the 2000 USENIX Annual Conference. It mentioned detecting a loss of network connectivity during the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia during the period of their study, something the military could use to monitor the efficiency of their campaign.
Mencken had it right. So glad that's old news.
I don't find this scary, I think it's useful. I don't have a laptop yet, but when I get one, I will be very worried about theft. There are plenty of ways to reduce the likelihood of someone stealing a laptop, but as a last resort a little phone-home program would be essential.
Every time it connects to the Internet, I'll have my laptop phone home to the server in my parents' basement, which will keep logs of the IP addresses phoning home. If someone steals my laptop, they'll be as good as caught the first time they connect to the Internet with it from their permanent residence.
*knock knock*
Hello, can I help you?
Yeah, I lost a laptop a coupla weeks ago, I was wondering if you'd seen it.
Err--no, uh, I haven't seen it.
Are you sure? Cause, your ISP seems to disagree.
My whatsis? Who are those guys with you?
Oh, these are just a couple of friends of mine. They like to wear blue uniforms. They're going to help me take a look around, just to see if that 'Book is hiding somewhere around here.
I found the meaning of life the other day, but I had write-only access.
I said with so much certainity mainly because earlier research into the topology of the Web, by Barabasi et al had already suggested that it is a so-called scale-free network (my post in the earlier story on this had more references), which, arguably, are fractals.
More than mere navel gazing.
I have a comcast IP, it says i'm in north carolina, but i'm in minnesota.
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I wonder if the map would be more legible if you took out all the Porn sites and sites that are merely annoying endless loops of spam? Still, it does look very pretty. Like a picture of a distant galaxy from the Hubble :)
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As I said in another thread...
:-)"
:-)
"[grin] It sort of guesses wrong on purpose if it doesn't know - my theory is that people are more likely to correct it if it's wildly wrong than slightly wrong
If you want to mail me a list of those monitored IP addresses, I'd much appreciate it - I'll add the lot
ATB,
Simon
Physicists get Hadrons!
... to avoid the area that reads 'Here be goatses.'
One hand: What kind of 'tard wouldn't nuke the hard drive after searching it for CC#'s and the like.
The other hand: Those likely to jack your "'Book" prolly aren't the most technically inclined bunch...
So all those lines are porn sites? :D
You must master your joystick like a fisherman masters bait! - Gimpy
Go look at the H3 viewer here. This is the definitive work in this area. Tamara is now at UBC, I talked to her at a conference, she's cool.
Actually come to think of it maybe they did, and the non-porn section is just too small to see.
-- the only thing we have to fear is really scary things
<plug>javainetlocator and IP::Country</plug> are also available.
The city data are unreliable. I've posted elsewhere (link1, link2) the reasons why, but will repeat the main points here.
> See Geobutton Or Geo::IP, IP::Country, javainetlocator or any other free, open source services. You shouldn't be paying $49 for a developers license to read the WHOIS data.
How big of a piece of fairy cake was required to map out this Total Internet Vortex?
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"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
> This would also eliminate traffic jams because your car would know the path of least resistance, compared to all the ohter cars.
I dissagree - surely with such a large difference between calculation and reaction times, thousands of cars could reach the same decision to take some tiny, and currently free side-road, leading to gridlock and navigation systems telling you to go in circles...
What you really need is load-balancing routers which will give you reccomendations and estimates based on percentage of people following suggestions and likelyhood from experience that all currently being given reccomendations will follow them...
I'm sure the spammers could generate a much more accurate map. They seem to know everyone's address. I think I'll open up a one-time-use hotmail account accessed thru three anonymous proxies and suggest it to them.
*ouch* it says I am in Saint Petersburg, Florida... but I am in Montreal, Quebec, Canada, so they missed by what? by 1323 miles according to their distance calculator between Montreal, PQ and St-P, FL. and as they said on their page "Great tool for Fraud Prevention." yeah!
"Science will win because it works." - Stephen Hawking
It just says we mapped the internet on the page.
Where are the details?
Will code a sig generator for food
Yeah, I see how helpful they are:
"We are currently unable to locate the address [removed] at this time."
Hell, at least whois gives SOME information. It may be wrong, but at least it doesn't completely puke like this place did.
missed. I am 140 km away.
This seems like a very cool\interesting\geeky project. Yet I am cautious as to it's reliability.
Take a note at the 'Percentage Completed' section. Opte Project Status Page
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I encourage anyone and everyone who are interested in networks (of any sort, whether they be social, neurological, chemical, or electronic) and network theory to read this book.
Finally, if you want a real treat, in addition to the above book read Wolfram's "A New Kind of Science", and Kelly's "Out of Control" - I would also throw in a few good books on AI, but most notably Minsky's "The Society of Mind". Once you start reading about these things, and give some real thought to it all - you will start to see how a lot of this all ties together (not that you will have instant understanding, mind you, just that you will begin to see how it is all interelated, and how some interesting discoveries and/or inventions are yet to appear)...
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