I hope you're joking about the SPARC bit, they've been left in the dust even by Intel's consumer chips.
You know, many people (including myself) have decided to have a laptop as our sole computer. They are so powerful now that there's no need to waste space on a big computer desk. That's why we are interested in fast processors and lots of memory, just the same way people want those things in desktop machines.
The "Centrino" label implies a Pentium-M processor. The P4-M is a completely different beast. The Pentium-M is the newer one with 1MB L2 cache, and is more like a P3 internally.
I don't see anywhere where I fawned over the P4, I just said that it is unfairly criticized based on a metric that makes no sense (power/MHz). I also note that you refer to Intel's technologies as "mediocre" without any rationale, which supports my point exactly. Why are they mediocre? Compared to what? And what difference does it make how speed increases are gained, so long as they are gained? These are false distinctions.
The other thing that gets me is that when a product Slashdotters dislike becomes popular, it's because people were "forced" to buy it. Is it so inconceivable that Intel's products sell well because they provide things that people, of their own free will, desire to buy? It smacks of elitism to assume that people who don't act as you would only do so because they are too stupid to see the Truth, as you do.
Why are Slashbots so down on Intel and the Itanium? It represents real innovation, while the AMD chips are just incremental improvements on the x86 design everyone claims to hate so much. Similarly, you guys are so scornful of the "inefficiency" of the P4, oblivious to the fact that the long pipeline is what allows it to reach such high clock rates in the first place, and in the end that produces better performance overall than the P3 design could ever have reached. Is it just resentment of their many successes? I don't get it.
Maybe for printers it makes sense, but what kind of fool would pay extra for a personal computer CPU that lasts 20 years? There's no market for such a thing, that's why nobody makes them.
Too bad the MP3 encoder it ships with sucks ass, at least it did when I used to use it on my now-dead iBook a few months ago. You had to set the base bitrate at 160 kb/s in order to get the VBR mode to work half-decently, which pretty much defeats the whole purpose. The files I've made with MusicMatch using VBR at the 50% setting average about 128 kb/s and sound much better than the iTunes ones at around 175 kb/s did, to my ears anyway. Probably the AAC encoder is better, I've heard a lot of good things about it and plan to give it a shot now that it's available for Windows.
DLL hell? IRQ conflicts? These are problems that were solved many years ago. Are you going to complain about the 640k limit next?
How much do you have in your short position on Microsoft, since you're so convinced they're going downhill? Did you invest your entire allowance?
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A few things...
1. In which states is CDMA illegal? I just looked at a Verizon coverage map and they claimed to have digital coverage in at least part of each state as far as I can see.
2. You're wrong about only being able to use phones purchased from the service providers. A coworker bought an unlocked GSM phone from Expansys and got a T-Mobile SIM for it without any problem.
3. The advantage of CDMA is that it can support more callers per tower than TDMA or GSM, so I'm not sure where you're getting this "more towers" business.
I call you zealots because that's what you are, just look how defensive you got when I suggested that Apples aren't all that, you're practically slobbering. Look, the dual G5 is about the equivalent of a dual Xeon 3.06 in SPEC rates, and they cost about the same amount. How you can go from that to "4x the power at 1/7 the cost" without making shit up, well you tell me.
The 7x number is also bullshit. FLOPS isn't a very good performance metric across architectures. If you go by SPECmarks you'd see that a G5 barely keeps up with a Xeon 3.06. Why don't you Apple zealots take a little time to learn something about computers? It would keep you from making such fools of yourselves.
Are you really trying to claim that anyone would start with Windows 2000, then "upgrade" to Windows ME, then to XP Home, and from there to XP Pro? That is utterly ridiculous. There is no reason to resort to such nonsense to defend Apple, just say you think the money was well spent and that's that.
A good site for information about smartphones is pdaphonehome.com. They have a G-1000 forum there where you could probably find answers to some of your questions.
That's nice that OS X might be finally starting to run decently fast. The reason you keep seeing these "improvements" is that it was so pathetically slow to begin with. Just think only 3*$130=$390 (10.0, 10.2, 10.3) to get the production version. What a bargain!
On my Acer Travelmate LCi800 both standby and hibernate work pretty much every time. I think there's been fewer than a half-dozen times I had problems getting out of standby in the many months I've owned it. This is with XP Home.
I just found the VIA C3 800MHz on pricewatch for $34, I'm sure those guys get them for much less in quantity. Using something slower would cut approximately $0 from the price, so I don't see how it would make any sense to do so.
He's talking about suspend mode (on mine it's called standby). You know, you close the lid, the computer goes into a low-power mode, then when you open it you're right back where you left off. After there really laptops that don't have this feature?
I agree it would be cool to get NeWS re-released, but I think the problem would be that it depends so heavily on postscript. Good luck getting Adobe to go along, heck Apple built Quartz from scratch just to avoid dealing with them.
They could have named it after some particular sort of matrix, like "The Heisenberg Hamiltonian". Come to think of it, doesn't that sound like a John le Carre novel?
I've got a Kyocera 7135, and my experience is that using the MP3 player doesn't run the battery down very quickly at all, as long as you have the screen off. The phone-related radio stuff and the screen are the big battery killers, not the CPU and the audio output.
Have you priced a 42S lately? I just looked on ebay and used ones are going for over $200! Cripes, mine only cost $99 back in 1988, brand-new! This thing is my retirement plan.:-)
You do have a point, if you want an integrated CD-ROM then you're pretty much at 1" and up. That's your only option from Apple, though. You can get a Wintel laptop with a CD-ROM at 1", or without one even thinner, it's your choice.
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I hope you're joking about the SPARC bit, they've been left in the dust even by Intel's consumer chips.
You know, many people (including myself) have decided to have a laptop as our sole computer. They are so powerful now that there's no need to waste space on a big computer desk. That's why we are interested in fast processors and lots of memory, just the same way people want those things in desktop machines.
The "Centrino" label implies a Pentium-M processor. The P4-M is a completely different beast. The Pentium-M is the newer one with 1MB L2 cache, and is more like a P3 internally.
I don't see anywhere where I fawned over the P4, I just said that it is unfairly criticized based on a metric that makes no sense (power/MHz). I also note that you refer to Intel's technologies as "mediocre" without any rationale, which supports my point exactly. Why are they mediocre? Compared to what? And what difference does it make how speed increases are gained, so long as they are gained? These are false distinctions.
The other thing that gets me is that when a product Slashdotters dislike becomes popular, it's because people were "forced" to buy it. Is it so inconceivable that Intel's products sell well because they provide things that people, of their own free will, desire to buy? It smacks of elitism to assume that people who don't act as you would only do so because they are too stupid to see the Truth, as you do.
Why are Slashbots so down on Intel and the Itanium? It represents real innovation, while the AMD chips are just incremental improvements on the x86 design everyone claims to hate so much. Similarly, you guys are so scornful of the "inefficiency" of the P4, oblivious to the fact that the long pipeline is what allows it to reach such high clock rates in the first place, and in the end that produces better performance overall than the P3 design could ever have reached. Is it just resentment of their many successes? I don't get it.
Maybe for printers it makes sense, but what kind of fool would pay extra for a personal computer CPU that lasts 20 years? There's no market for such a thing, that's why nobody makes them.
Too bad the MP3 encoder it ships with sucks ass, at least it did when I used to use it on my now-dead iBook a few months ago. You had to set the base bitrate at 160 kb/s in order to get the VBR mode to work half-decently, which pretty much defeats the whole purpose. The files I've made with MusicMatch using VBR at the 50% setting average about 128 kb/s and sound much better than the iTunes ones at around 175 kb/s did, to my ears anyway. Probably the AAC encoder is better, I've heard a lot of good things about it and plan to give it a shot now that it's available for Windows.
DLL hell? IRQ conflicts? These are problems that were solved many years ago. Are you going to complain about the 640k limit next?
How much do you have in your short position on Microsoft, since you're so convinced they're going downhill? Did you invest your entire allowance?
A few things...
1. In which states is CDMA illegal? I just looked at a Verizon coverage map and they claimed to have digital coverage in at least part of each state as far as I can see.
2. You're wrong about only being able to use phones purchased from the service providers. A coworker bought an unlocked GSM phone from Expansys and got a T-Mobile SIM for it without any problem.
3. The advantage of CDMA is that it can support more callers per tower than TDMA or GSM, so I'm not sure where you're getting this "more towers" business.
Oh come on, I bet there are just about zero Windows applications out there compiled using gcc (your so-called "real-world" applications).
I call you zealots because that's what you are, just look how defensive you got when I suggested that Apples aren't all that, you're practically slobbering. Look, the dual G5 is about the equivalent of a dual Xeon 3.06 in SPEC rates, and they cost about the same amount. How you can go from that to "4x the power at 1/7 the cost" without making shit up, well you tell me.
The 7x number is also bullshit. FLOPS isn't a very good performance metric across architectures. If you go by SPECmarks you'd see that a G5 barely keeps up with a Xeon 3.06. Why don't you Apple zealots take a little time to learn something about computers? It would keep you from making such fools of yourselves.
Are you really trying to claim that anyone would start with Windows 2000, then "upgrade" to Windows ME, then to XP Home, and from there to XP Pro? That is utterly ridiculous. There is no reason to resort to such nonsense to defend Apple, just say you think the money was well spent and that's that.
A good site for information about smartphones is pdaphonehome.com. They have a G-1000 forum there where you could probably find answers to some of your questions.
The latest version of mocha telnet does SSH2. Get it here.
That's nice that OS X might be finally starting to run decently fast. The reason you keep seeing these "improvements" is that it was so pathetically slow to begin with. Just think only 3*$130=$390 (10.0, 10.2, 10.3) to get the production version. What a bargain!
Exactly. Once it's too big to carry in my pocket, I really don't care how big it is because I'm going to carry it in a bag anyway.
Amen. I'm a Giants fan and therefore hate the Dodgers, and even I like Vin Scully.
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And he was right on with that call, too. What could be more impossible than a 200-foot home run?
On my Acer Travelmate LCi800 both standby and hibernate work pretty much every time. I think there's been fewer than a half-dozen times I had problems getting out of standby in the many months I've owned it. This is with XP Home.
I just found the VIA C3 800MHz on pricewatch for $34, I'm sure those guys get them for much less in quantity. Using something slower would cut approximately $0 from the price, so I don't see how it would make any sense to do so.
He's talking about suspend mode (on mine it's called standby). You know, you close the lid, the computer goes into a low-power mode, then when you open it you're right back where you left off. After there really laptops that don't have this feature?
I agree it would be cool to get NeWS re-released, but I think the problem would be that it depends so heavily on postscript. Good luck getting Adobe to go along, heck Apple built Quartz from scratch just to avoid dealing with them.
They could have named it after some particular sort of matrix, like "The Heisenberg Hamiltonian". Come to think of it, doesn't that sound like a John le Carre novel?
I've got a Kyocera 7135, and my experience is that using the MP3 player doesn't run the battery down very quickly at all, as long as you have the screen off. The phone-related radio stuff and the screen are the big battery killers, not the CPU and the audio output.
Have you priced a 42S lately? I just looked on ebay and used ones are going for over $200! Cripes, mine only cost $99 back in 1988, brand-new! This thing is my retirement plan. :-)
You do have a point, if you want an integrated CD-ROM then you're pretty much at 1" and up. That's your only option from Apple, though. You can get a Wintel laptop with a CD-ROM at 1", or without one even thinner, it's your choice.