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Fanimatrix - The Matrix Re-done By Fans

wishes writes "It appears Matrix fans have banded together to create the fanimatrix. From the Trailer it's not just an amateur event either. Release date is 27th September. " From the trailer, the movie actually looks good!

268 comments

  1. Amusing title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    The Fanimatrix? Almost sounds like Fannymatrix.. or the next porno spoof of a big motion picture :)

    1. Re:Amusing title... by wing_comm · · Score: 1

      funny you should mention that, it would appear the way we have websense set up, it thins so too.

    2. Re:Amusing title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, cause I would love to see a woman cum all over another woman in bullet time! Yeah baby yeah!

  2. Nobody has ever done this before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I expect lawsuites, lots of lawsuites.

    1. Re:Nobody has ever done this before by cluke · · Score: 2, Funny

      Lawsuites? Is that what you call the chairs in a attorney's waiting room?

    2. Re:Nobody has ever done this before by flogger · · Score: 2, Informative

      People have always done these kinds of things for the films that they enjoy. Go to The Force.Net. All sorts of fan movies.
      There was even an article here on slashdot about some KIDS that were remakng Indiana Jones (I can;t find it though. I'm sure someone will point it out for us)

      Or, when you said no one has done this before, you were talking about the matrix? Well My favortie just happens to be matrix based.

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    3. Re:Nobody has ever done this before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably not what you were thinking of, but my little brother is making a new Indian Jones film in MS paint.

      http://dr-ian.myby.co.uk/

      The trailer really doesn't do it justice.

    4. Re:Nobody has ever done this before by pontifier · · Score: 2, Funny

      There's a porno version of the Matrix.

      Trixxx 02

      The acting is like a B movie. Very funny stuff, and ok porn quality.

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  3. No quicktime trailer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How can someone not include a QT format? They got every other flavor.

    Also, aren't they infringing on WB's copyright?

    1. Re:No quicktime trailer by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Not necessarily ... they may be infringing upon any Warner Brother's trademarks involved, but if this is simply a creative expression and not a for-profit venture then they might be okay. I dunno though ... the law (you know, of the people, by the people, for the people) is little more than a sort of great gray grimness to me, and I really don't understand it. But then again, I'm not a lawyer so why should I.

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    2. Re:No quicktime trailer by alienhazard · · Score: 1

      I dont get it. whenever a company (i.e. warner bros) releases a video/trailer in qt, we all complain since its a proprietary format, and then some1 points out mplayer can play it. Now, when a community-based thing releases a video in almost every format BUT quicktime, we get pissed. I guess thats just slashdot...

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    3. Re:No quicktime trailer by Hast · · Score: 1

      Yes I found this very confusing too. I think it has something to do with quantum mechanics. Kind of like how you can't know the state and position of a quantum particle since that changes it.

      In the same vein if at any time the opinion of Slashdot is expressed it may also change. I can't say that I really understand this (or QM) fully, but it seems rather reasonable.

    4. Re:No quicktime trailer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, that was one dweeb expressing his opinion.
      Using your logic, all you need is one post and well get headlines blaring how the whole open-source community is 'up in arms'.

    5. Re:No quicktime trailer by cliffy2000 · · Score: 1

      Two words: fair use.

    6. Re:No quicktime trailer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry cheif, under the letter of the law, fair use only applies to use of copyrighted material "for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research". I don't think this would count.

    7. Re:No quicktime trailer by The+Matrix+Has+Me · · Score: 1
      I dont get it. whenever a company (i.e. warner bros) releases a video/trailer in qt, we all complain since its a proprietary format, and then some1 points out mplayer can play it. Now, when a community-based thing releases a video in almost every format BUT quicktime, we get pissed. I guess thats just slashdot...

      "We"? Contrary to popular belief there are a variety of opinions among slashdot's users. Some people hate QT and will complain when there's a trailer in that format. Some people love QT and will complain when there's not a trailer in that format. What's so weird about that?

    8. Re:No quicktime trailer by MadJo · · Score: 1

      does fair use still exist then?

    9. Re:No quicktime trailer by Zakabog · · Score: 1

      Because MPEG and DivX are both open formats? Well they work in windows and linux, and quicktime doesn't work so well in linux. Besides they don't have every other flavor, there's no realplayer or windows media player, just two formats. And I don't think WB would so they for making a fan based film that they aren't selling or making any money off of. That's like if WB sued a bunch of web admins for making matrix fan sites. Although my friend got a cease and decist notice from capcom for having a resident evil website up so you never know.

  4. Re:Wow they must have one hell of a pipe by cioxx · · Score: 1

    You think those are kilobytes you're downloading?

  5. Obligatory TORRENT link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    if you're only looking for the torrent link to the trailer: here goes

  6. In case the site starts to struggle... by alwsn · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is the torrent for the mpeg. Fanimatrix 14MB mpeg trailer

    1. Re:In case the site starts to struggle... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      your pathetic torrent seed has been /.'ed.. die!!!

    2. Re:In case the site starts to struggle... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Works great, what are you talking about?

    3. Re:In case the site starts to struggle... by Jagasian · · Score: 5, Informative

      Make sure you guys upgrade to the latest version of BitTorrent as a new official version came out this past week! It has tons of bug fixes and network/filesystem/CPU/memory optimizations. Also, the rule-of-thumb is that you don't close the BitTorrent download window until you have uploaded as much as you have downloaded. The new official client lists your total upload and your total download.

    4. Re:In case the site starts to struggle... by Jagasian · · Score: 3, Informative

      One last thing, I almost forgot to mention. If you really like BitTorrent, and you want to see it get even better, then donate $10 to Bram. The guy makes a living off of his BitTorrent donations. Since I noticed big improvements in this weeks new version of BitTorrent, I donated $20. No more long initialization times when starting/restarting a torrent download, no more download window lockup bug, faster downloads, no longer hogs CPU, etc...

    5. Re:In case the site starts to struggle... by GeorgeH · · Score: 1

      Even the .torrent file is slashdotted. Anyone got a torrent of the torrent? :)

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    6. Re:In case the site starts to struggle... by DJFelix · · Score: 1

      It's a bit difficult to get to the torrent file, so here is a dump:

      btshowmetainfo 20021207 - decode BitTorrent metainfo files

      metainfo file.: Fanimatrix-Trailer-(MPEG).mpg.torrent
      info hash.....: 82a7d05328e41525428326290a7c1607ce6b97fd
      file name.....: Fanimatrix-Trailer-(MPEG).mpg
      file size.....: 14301896 (54 * 262144 + 146120)
      announce url..: http://kaos.gen.nz:6969/announce

    7. Re:In case the site starts to struggle... by Feztaa · · Score: 1

      There's one bug I've noticed that hasn't been fixed:

      When I try to download a torrent that is multiple files (as in, a torrent of a directory, as opposed to a regular torrent of one file), the interface will stop refreshing. It'll still download the files just fine, but the interface will be totally unresponsive, like the program is totally locked up.

      That was the biggest problem I had with 3.2, and 3.3 does the same thing. I can use btdownloadheadless.py and it won't have that problem, but it's annoying that I can't just use the GUI.

      Though I admit, the time bt3.3 takes to check an existing file has sped up a lot, and is much less CPU intensive. I'm impressed with that :)

    8. Re:In case the site starts to struggle... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      It's a bit difficult to get to the torrent file, so here is a dump:
      Why don't you post the torrent file somewhere? Your dump doesn't include any of the necessary information -- like the hashes of the 55 individual 256 KB chunks -- making it completely useless.
    9. Re:In case the site starts to struggle... by Grandmasta · · Score: 1

      meh. there's a bunch of stuff about the new BT that annoys me too greatly to care much about the thirty seconds the initialization time may've been cut down on average. generally any program that pops a dialog box up at me, telling me to donate, and then steals an open iexplore window to bring me to the donations page isn't going to rate highly on my respect and admiration scale. and if that wasn't enough, every time it runs into a problem it pops up another dialog box and freezes the display until you click out of it. where'd I put that Experimental Client link? :P

    10. Re:In case the site starts to struggle... by isorox · · Score: 1

      Amazing how many people still use windows AND explorer

    11. Re:In case the site starts to struggle... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know, I appreciate what Bram did by creating this tool. The idea behind it is great and it was needed.

      But the implementations he has made, well, suck. I wouldn't touch his code again with a 10 foot pole. I've been using BT++ which already has those new features that you're speaking of, along with a friendly UI. No ads or donation-whining, either.

    12. Re:In case the site starts to struggle... by gordyf · · Score: 1

      I've never seen that problem. You may want to try one of the other clients, and see if that helps - there are several "experimental" clients that you could try. Just ask google for bittorrent experimental.

    13. Re:In case the site starts to struggle... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amazing how many people seem to think that their opinons are the only correct ones, and tries to convince the world that they are right.

    14. Re:In case the site starts to struggle... by isorox · · Score: 2, Funny

      It is isn't it? Most of them seem to be left wing loonys

    15. Re:In case the site starts to struggle... by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      ... but still not improved to allow multiple downloads/uploads in the same window? I never really understood why BT shouldn't have that.

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    16. Re:In case the site starts to struggle... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I feel for you if you're still using the official client. It has NO features compared to burst or Shad0w's client. And they've had all the code changes in 3.3 for a long time now since they track CVS. Dump that stock shit.

    17. Re:In case the site starts to struggle... by Feztaa · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I used to use one of them, it had the same problems, too.

      I'll email bram and ask him what's wrong (if anybody knows, it's probably him. I probably just have an old version of python or something).

      If he can fix it, I'll donate some money for him :)

    18. Re:In case the site starts to struggle... by kdsolutions · · Score: 0

      I've downloaded 22.0MB of slackware 9.1 and uploaded 109.1MB. Can I close my download window yet? I mean, I have 203.2MB left to download, is it okay if I close it still?

      Somehow that doesn't seem right -- having uploaded more than I've downloaded. Is this fair for dialup users?

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    19. Re:In case the site starts to struggle... by kdsolutions · · Score: 0

      603.2, my bad

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  7. 10/10 for effort by BillsPetMonkey · · Score: 4, Funny

    How long before there's a Matrix Convention, with lots of nerds dressing up in black trenchcoats, acting out scenes and theorizing about the symbolism of The Oracle, then having a disco at the end of the evening. Lots of geek girls dressing up as Niobe.

    Actually, you know ...

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    1. Re:10/10 for effort by Theodore+Logan · · Score: 3, Funny

      Lots of geek girls dressing up as Niobe.

      In your dreams, pal. But that's ok. In my dreams they're dressed up as Trinity.

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      "If you think education is expensive, try ignorance" - Derek Bok

    2. Re:10/10 for effort by azzy · · Score: 1

      Both of those are nightmares... remember, it's never the good looking girls that dress up as characters than guys lust after... only those that can't get guys to look at them any other way

    3. Re:10/10 for effort by Theodore+Logan · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hey, it's my dreams! I decide what those girls look like!

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      "If you think education is expensive, try ignorance" - Derek Bok

    4. Re:10/10 for effort by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, if any geek girl wants to get a friendly, intelligent, funny,hard-working, money-earning Ubergeek, they would just dress up (once) as Trinity. I promise I will never ask her again to do it, unless she wants to :)

    5. Re:10/10 for effort by ChowyChow · · Score: 3, Funny

      In Soviet Russia the girls decide your dreams!!

    6. Re:10/10 for effort by AllUsernamesAreGone · · Score: 1

      That could be fun too.

      Well, maybe....

    7. Re:10/10 for effort by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see half the convention dressed in black trenchcoats and wearing sunglasses in very dark rooms. The other half wears old knit sweeters with holes that are easily repaired, but left as is.

    8. Re:10/10 for effort by dmayle · · Score: 5, Funny

      Gosh, you guys have such overly elaborate dreams. In my dreams, they're not dressed at all...

    9. Re:10/10 for effort by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously none of you have been to DragonCon in Atlanta. 50000 people this year, many of them hot girls dressed up in SciFi costumes. I must have run into at least 20 Trinitys (Trinities?) whilie I was there. Check out the photos at http://www.dragoncon.com.

    10. Re:10/10 for effort by GeorgeH · · Score: 4, Interesting

      As per the usual, Japan's been there, done that. Personally, I'm looking forward to the cosplay at a Tetris convention. "Oh man, check out the girl in the T brick costume!"

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    11. Re:10/10 for effort by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      In your dreams, pal. But that's ok. In my dreams they're dressed up as Trinity.

      In my dreams they're dressed up as Persephone.

      She is one hot lady.

    12. Re:10/10 for effort by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No room for Trinity in my dreams: Aeryn Sun doesn't allow it :)

    13. Re:10/10 for effort by LinuxGeek · · Score: 1
      In Soviet Russia the girls decide your dreams!!

      So you mean that I am going to start dreaming about mowing the lawn and fixing the leaky gutter? Come to think of it, PMS would explain the Cuban Missile Crisis too...
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    14. Re:10/10 for effort by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And mentally unbalanced girls. They can make up a surprising percentage in those things. You wouldn't want to date them, but they're nice to look at.

    15. Re:10/10 for effort by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia the girls decide your dreams!!

      This is the single most insightful thing I've ever seen on slashdot. Well, that and depressingly true.

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    16. Re:10/10 for effort by sharkey · · Score: 2, Funny
      How long before there's a Matrix Convention

      They had one, and got Keanu Reeves to be the keynote speaker. Here's a transcript:

      "Woah."

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    17. Re:10/10 for effort by pimpinmonk · · Score: 1

      yeah that'd be great except you know the girls dressed up as niobe will make you cringe and ruin your image of the original forever :-(

    18. Re:10/10 for effort by identity0 · · Score: 1

      Lots of geek girls dressing up as Niobe.

      You mean, lots of geek guys dressing up as Niobe - like crossplayers at anime conventions. Then, you can re-enact the scene where Keanu runs for his life down the street, yelling "Get me the Hell out of here!" into his cellphone...

    19. Re:10/10 for effort by mutewinter · · Score: 1

      Oh shit, someone dropped Morpheus in a vat of acid.

    20. Re:10/10 for effort by Rysc · · Score: 1

      Yeah but Trinity would kick her ass.

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    21. Re:10/10 for effort by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      Yeah...like we don't already have geeks theorizing about the symbolism of The Oracle.

  8. nice to see them using a BT link by aminal · · Score: 1

    shows some people have some sence :)
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    1. Re:nice to see them using a BT link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      shows some people have some sence :)

      Unfortunately some people still have trouble with spelling and grammar. :)

    2. Re:nice to see them using a BT link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quit wasting my time and bandwith. Don't post if you don't have anything better to say.

  9. I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by Krapangor · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    It's very unlikely that amateurs are able to create such gems like "human bodies used as batteries" and similar rubbish.
    You usually have to live several years in the SciFi sewers of Hollywood to reach such a stage of chaotic transcendence that you are able to write such scripts without your brain exploding.

    What I find a little problematic with Matrix is it's open propagation of Satanism. Take e.g. the names of the characters:

    • Neo is an anagram of "one", the "one". This doctrine usually refers to the avatar of Satan because Satan is - unlike God who exists in TRINITY - only ONE being. Furthermore Neo takes clearly the defilers role as he fights against order and propagates anti-autoritarian behavior and the relativity of moralic values.
    • Morpheus doesn't refers to Greek mythology but to the KABBALISTIC figure of M'orphir'ne'us, servant of the evil one and traditionally the preparator of his plans.
    • Nebukadnezar was a heathen king and is mentioned in the Holy Book for serving Baal and being killed by the warth of the LORD. See the book Daniel.
    Additionally the crew of the Nebukadnezar has a traditional satanistic agenda: to bring people from the rightful path of order and obedience of the laws of the lord into the labyrinth (!) of chaos and ignorance to natural authorities.
    Note that both the Church of Set and the OTO declared the Matrix as a recommended film for obvious reasons.
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    1. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by zarei · · Score: 1

      You don't think you're reading a bit much into the movie. First, why would anyone take up satanism because of the names of characters in a sci-fi movie. Second, why would anyone take up satanism that isn't already a fanatical christian? Those people are already nut jobs so who cares.

      My pie.

    2. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by tjensor · · Score: 1

      *Slowly.. Backs.. Away*

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    3. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wish Star Wars would return to satanism.

    4. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by Dion · · Score: 1

      Don't you need to be out flying planes into buildings like all the other loonies?

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    5. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by Ineffable+27 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wow, they're letting anyone into Mensa these days I guess. Any way to moderate someone "-1, Looney Tunes"?

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    6. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What I find a little problematic with Matrix is it's open propagation of Satanism
      Wicked. Now I like the Matrix even more.
      Take it outside God Boy!

    7. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by drkich · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There are a number of ways you can view this. Yes, you can percieve that Neo is the equivilent of Satan, and that he is trying to bring disorder to where order exists.

      However, I have a different view. Neo is the one, however, he could not do what he does without Trinity and Morpheous. They together also form the one, the trinity.

      If we are going to go the route of the bible, let us look at Revelations. Satan controls the earth for seven years I believe. Then Jesus returns with his army and casts Satan back to the lake of fire. Could not the machines be Satan and their control of the earth be actually evil. Even if it is orderly, there is nothing in the bible that says the earth will necessarily be a teeming mass of Chaos. Just the opposite, the people are bar coded for better record keeping. Sounds pretty orderly to me.

      However, I believe none of the above, I think it is just a fun movie. I just wanted to point out an opposite hypothesis to you.

    8. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by thynk · · Score: 1

      Neo is an anagram of "one", the "one".

      and here all this time I thought this was a reference to Highlander... after all "There can be only one". ::shrugs:: You've got your reality, and the rest of us have ours.

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    9. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by cuppm · · Score: 1

      Doesn't Neo also mean new? And he is the "bringer" of the "new" order to the world?

      And Morpheus IS the god of dreams in both Greek and Roman mythology and Ovid's Metamorphoses. And that's a fitting name as the character in the movie moves in, out, and through the Matrix much like a "god of dreams." (Since the Matrix is pretty much a world in a shared dream)
      Morphirneus != Morpheus;

      Just because it could be interpretted one way, doesn't mean that's the correct way.

      Too much analyzing makes brain hurt!!!

      What? Next you're going to tell me that Batman and Robin are gay symbols...

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    10. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by Angram · · Score: 1

      Since when does the number "one" implicitly refer to Satan? Trinity is Neo's love in this, but according to you he's Satan and should therefore be fighting her.

      Neo means "new" which, combined with "one", makes perfect sense and a nice play on words to illustrate his character in the movie - no Satan necessary.

      Trinity means a group of three, and I find it more convincing that it refers to her than Christian theology. Perhaps its a reference to 1) her in the Matrix, 2) her in the "real world" 3) her as Neo's lover. I'm sure someone can think of a better trinity than that, but it beats the Christian one, which would be completely out of place.

      Morpheus is the Greek/Roman god of dreams. What more perfect name could they give him? The Matrix is essentially a "dream world", and he pulls Neo out and puts him back in at will (initially).

      Nebuchadnezzar II restored an empire to its former glory. In the Matrix, the ship brings Neo.

      I have no clue where you're getting the whole "rightful path of obedience" thing. I frankly have no idea what you're talking about.

      Oh, and why would someone's brain explode at the concept of The Matrix, and when did Hollywood sewers get here? Seems more like you found some religiously offensive "meaning" that offends you, and are now crusading against it. Some of this stuff may refer to your God, some may not. Whatever the case, I highly doubt this film is intentionally Satanic.

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    11. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right to some extent. The Neb's crew's agenda is to bring people away from the "Rightful path of obidience" and so on, but the film is not trying to propagate satanistic wiews. This is obvious, as the zionists are not egoistic or destructive.

      However, the movie is relying heavily on Gnostic myths. Gnosticism can be thought of as a mythical approach to depth psychology. The Gnostic religion thought of the being that christians call God as an evil being, who was keeping man away from true knowledge (take Genesis, for example)

      Nebuchadnezar means "defender of the crown", or somesuch. The general message of the movies is not "kill and destroy," is it? It is Know thyself, as in get to know your self as opposed to your "you" ...errr... read Jung. He's better to explain these things.

    12. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by bj8rn · · Score: 1
      Two more hypotheses:

      First one: Ok, so Neo is the equivalent of Satan. But Satan's name was Lucifer, The Lightbringer, and he was supposedly the one who brought mankind intellection. Humans are creative - creativity means disorder. Lucifer is thought to be evil because of the thousands of years of brainwashing done by those who would like to have Order.

      As for the second one, to quote "Faust":

      Faust. Well now, who are you then?
      Mephistopheles. Part of that Power which would
      The Evil ever do, and ever does the Good.

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    13. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by RicoX9 · · Score: 1

      Of course you could also look at the Bible (New Testament in particular - lots of contradictions) and it's history as nothing more than a clever piece of fiction put together by a bunch of old men.

      This is a Troll, but less so than the original post.

      Get a life. You take things WAY to seriosly.

    14. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by AllUsernamesAreGone · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, the voices do say there's a fine line between genius and insanity.....

    15. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by Jetson · · Score: 1
      What? Next you're going to tell me that Batman and Robin are gay symbols...

      I believe the word you're looking for is icons. :-P

    16. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by Arysh · · Score: 1
      I remember a couple of years ago I learned in world religions class that one of the many names for Jesus was "Neo Adam" or "the new man." Also, if you look at Morpheus as a John the Baptist-like character (running around "baptising" people by letting them be reborn into his belief system, conveniently by dumping them in water, and prophesizing that one greater than him will come), yeah... Neo's Jesus, but we all know that already.

      (Don't mind me, I had to write an essay on my final exam comparing the Matrix to the Bible. I just love pointing this stuff out, even if thousands of others have done it before) :)

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    17. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by martinX · · Score: 1

      And "god" is an anagram of "dog". So what... Does that mean if I played my death metal records backwards, I'd convert to Christianity?

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    18. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by jackb_guppy · · Score: 1

      B5 rules!!!

    19. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by james_gnz · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Much agreed on the human bodies as batteries, but otherwise thought it was excellent.

      Neo is an anagram of "one", the "one". This doctrine usually refers to the avatar of Satan because Satan is - unlike God who exists in TRINITY - only ONE being. Furthermore Neo takes clearly the defilers role as he fights against order and propagates anti-autoritarian behavior and the relativity of moralic values.

      Already I'm not really sure if you're serious. Neo <-> one is hardly an impressive anagram, and I suspect neo is more often used to refer to something being relatively new or recent than to refer to Satan. Most Christians would hold that they are mono-theistic, I think, despite what the Jews or Muslims might say. Yes, he fights against order, and part of the order he fights against is ordered rows of human bodies used as batteries. More of a concern, I think, are all the people he kills along the way. (And here I could draw a parallel with either the Hebrew assult on the Canaanite people, or the Christian Crusades.) Lastly, you must realise that even within Christanity, there are widely different views on many moral issues. The search for absolute truth may well be a noble persuit, but the assumption that you already have it and everyone else is wrong is not.

      Morpheus doesn't refers to Greek mythology but to the KABBALISTIC figure of M'orphir'ne'us, servant of the evil one and traditionally the preparator of his plans.

      A name can refer to more than one thing.

      Nebukadnezar was a heathen king and is mentioned in the Holy Book for serving Baal and being killed by the warth of the LORD. See the book Daniel.

      Don't believe everything you read, Nebukadnezar got a lot of bad press.

      And since you're a member of Mensa, perhaps you can explain this. As you surely know, the god you worship made a covenant with the Israelites on Mount Sinai, and the English translation begins thus:

      I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
      You shall have no other gods before me.
      Note it does not say "There are no other gods besides me." It actually implies there are other gods. A god would not be likely to get that wrong. Of course, relative to the Israelite/Jewish view there are no other gods. But that's just their moral values. Why shouldn't other people be allowed to worship any god(s), or none, as they choose? Or, to get to the point, why should anyone else be bound by the morals that you have chosen?
    20. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by Mantorp · · Score: 1
      Neo is an anagram of "one", the "one".

      I thought it was a reference to the legendary Brian Eno.

    21. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by CrazyJoel · · Score: 1

      Actually, what I find problematic with the Matrix is it's open propagation of Christianity:

      -Neo is a savior delivering his people from being slaves to their illusions.

      --

      Such is the infinite Grace of Popeye.
    22. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by eyeye · · Score: 1

      Go away religios troll idiot.

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    23. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, these are gay icons!

    24. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Satan's name was Lucifer, The Lightbringer, and he was supposedly the one who brought mankind intellection.

      Some more than others?

    25. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, this is one of the places where (Score:5, Troll) is in order.

    26. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hm i read his last four postings, and he seems more and more like a unsuccessful troll. Go back playing!

    27. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by bj8rn · · Score: 1
      My dear AC. As a legend goes, there was a time (Ed. note: no there wasn't) when everyone spoke the same language (and lived in peace and harmony, as there were no grammar nazis). Unfortunately, good old Yahweh screwed everything up with this Towergate affair in Babylon. And so it happened that my English is still far from perfect

      I'm sorry for torturing your poor language (it has suffered enough even without me...) and causing you both mental and physical pain. There's no excuses for this. Yet, deep in my heart I know you would return the favour any time.

      --
      Hell is not other people; it is yourself. - Ludwig Wittgenstein
    28. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought it was a reference to the fact that Hitler had only ONE testicle.

    29. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by 33degrees · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Another interesting biblical reference is the Merovingian. According to certain versions of history (which was first popularised by the book "holy blood, holy grail") the Merovingian kings were direct descendants of Jesus (who hadn't died at the cross and who fled Jerusalem with Mary Magdalene and later had a child with her) and that bloodline is the actual Holy Grail. One of the first things that hint at this possibility is the term Holy Grail, which come from the french "San Greal"; it's likely that it's a misstranslation of the term "Sang Real", which literally means Royal Blood.

      This would mean that the Merovingian in the movie is a decendant of Christ, which adds an interesting twist to biblical interpretations of the movie.

    30. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by rossifer · · Score: 1

      "The Matrix", "Star Wars", the Biblical Jesus story and the modern interpretation of the Jesus story all have the same ultimate basis, namely that each is another example of the hero-myth, of which there have been thousands and millions for as long as humans have had the ability to tell stories to each other.

      I believe (along with others) that the hero-myth has it's origins in our biological goals of learning and helping our children and community the best we know to succeed. This shouldn't be interpreted as saying that the author of the hero-myth is concious of these reasons (though there is plenty of evidence that the Gospel accounts were specifically written to fulfill earlier prophetical and mythical heroes such as those written about by Isaiah). Instead, we look for an example to use as a teaching and learning tool and if the available real examples aren't up to the task, we'll invent one or more characters who are.

      Don't be upset that the Matrix draws upon the Christian mythos for much of its material. There's a rich history there and enough of our modern Western population knows that story to make this story culturally relevant on several levels. The good and evil symbols from Christianity are all part of a larger context that can be drawn upon by this storyteller without needing explicit reference. There is a natural-feeling rightness to the individual arrayed against seemingly overwhelming odds and finding a way to succeed that we wish for in our own struggles.

      Life can be overwhelming if you sit down and consider all of the things you'll need to do to make a success of it. The hero myth simplifies the story of that struggle down to one gigantic challenge and provides a nice happy ending to help us get past the paralyzing analysis of our problems and just get to working on them.

      As for the Jesus myth, I read it and see a philosophy very close to the Tao presented by Jesus, a philosophy that knowing Heaven during our lifetime is part of the potential and birthright of each person.

      But then again, I could be wrong :)

      Regards,
      Ross

    31. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by mccoyspace · · Score: 1

      which come from the french "San Greal"; it's likely that it's a misstranslation of the term "Sang Real", which literally means Royal Blood.

      This doesn't make much sence linguistically. 'San Greal" has no meaning in French and even the term that it is supposedly misstranslated from (sang real) is not French. 'Real' is not French for 'royal' , it's Spanish. The French say "royale', which comes from 'roi' which means King. "Sang" is French for 'blood' (sangre in Spanish). So your phrase "sang real' , if it means anything, is a mix between French and Spanish, which doesn't seem to fit into the Francophilic theory about the Merovingian kings.

    32. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      You've got your reality, and the rest of us have ours

      Yep.. Here are two anagrams of Slashdot making me relate to the site:

      - Sad Sloth
      - Lad's Host

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    33. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hm, btw, that made decent sig material for now... Anything better than the previous one. :P

    34. Re:I doubt that they will match the Matrix. by 33degrees · · Score: 1

      This doesn't make much sence linguistically. 'San Greal" has no meaning in French and even the term that it is supposedly misstranslated from (sang real) is not French. 'Real' is not French for 'royal' , it's Spanish. The French say "royale', which comes from 'roi' which means King. "Sang" is French for 'blood' (sangre in Spanish). So your phrase "sang real' , if it means anything, is a mix between French and Spanish, which doesn't seem to fit into the Francophilic theory about the Merovingian kings.

      Actually, it does make sense; In medieval times the word Real was used as an adjective for royalty in certain circumstances, most notably when talking about the kings primary galley and the staff contained on it i.e. "La galere reale". Also, the name of the city Montreal quite obviously comes from Mont Real. I would know, I happen to live there, and am a native french speaker as well.

      As for "San Greal", regardless of whether it actually means anything, that is the way it is most commonly written in most French Arthurian legends.

  10. Bad time for a browser issue by Xxanmorph · · Score: 1

    Had mozilla crash twice on me surfing over there, ten times tonight, something is definitely wrong with my system. I wonder if Norton AV would pick up the Smith virus...

    1. Re:Bad time for a browser issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      You're not running an older version OpenSSH are you? I hear that there's an exploit for it, and someone's got this tool called sshnuke that...

      I'll get my (trench) coat.

  11. bittorrent by Anime_Fan · · Score: 1

    Sweet... bittorrent links for us who don't like to bring small sites to its knees (we'e a 1% european minority of slashdot, who read the f*cking articles, and not just reload the browser on a page).

    Also, the total cost of the film seems to have been somewhere along the lines of $1000 (NZ, $500 US). Maybe they didn't include the cost for Adobe Premiere (which they state they used). Maybe they'd bought it before hooting the film. Or something.

    I also note that some people already noticed the bt link, as my connection is now brought to its knees (at 1337 peers, and all seeds fleeing things like that happen).

    Trailer looked really nice, despite the accent which you Americans associate with beer.

    1. Re:bittorrent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For Christ sake we AINT AUSSIES!!!!! god damn dont any of you people read. They from New Zealand, which low in behold means they are "kiwi's" what is with everyonbe thinking we aussies? we aint anything like them XXXX mother.....

    2. Re:bittorrent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Generally Americans associate Germans with beer... I don't see what New Zealand has to do with it.

    3. Re:bittorrent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      along the lines of $1000 (NZ, $500 US)

      More like $600US given how poorly the US$ is performing at the moment. The exchange rate was 0.596 last time I checked on Friday...

    4. Re:bittorrent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chill out, dude. Like, go throw another shrimp on the barbie, okay?

  12. very nice / similar stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I like the work they put in their project and it looks really nice. Must have been great fun to shoot the movie, too.
    I once did a statist-job for a small film, and it is fun. The same fun people write software for.

    There is a similar, albeit not so complicated and shaped project at Matrix-XP.

    1. Re:very nice / similar stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hey, I am not entirely sure the $1000 nz doesn't include adobe premiere... most of the movie equipment (lights) were borrowed from a film school, there was no permission gained for using most of the sites, and nobody got payed. The only money used was for hiring the K'rd ballroom and turning it into a goth bar for a night...
      anyway, didn't think they even used $1000.. where did you get that info?
      I know they have been offered $1000 to do the sequel...

  13. Impressive, what's next? by 3seas · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It won't be long before someone makes it available on CD/VCD/DVD at costs, for those like me who simply don't have a fast enough connection.

    There are other sites out there that have every thing from gatherings to RL RPG but one I'm on, that has been around since the beginning, with some of it's members even making it on Matrix Revisited, is Matrixcommunuity

    I am impressed with things fans have done, including writing full scripts of their own.

    And as the matrix is, there is plenty of room, for everyones story.

  14. Not to disparage this effort but... by dodgyville · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why do all "Matrix" spin-offs have something with "trix" appended to the end? Two examples are "The Animatrix" and now "The Fanimatrix". Why don't they do it the other way round? What's wrong with "The Matran" or "The Matrimation"???

    It's also the same with unix. Why don't programs do something other than end in "x" (eg Linux, lynx, lyx, knoppix...)? They should start with "un" (or if you like linux, "lin"). For example, "open-office" could be called "un-office", and "link" could be called "linlink".

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    1. Re:Not to disparage this effort but... by beady · · Score: 1

      duh!
      because X means its XTREEEEEME

    2. Re:Not to disparage this effort but... by azzy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Did you notice that Animatrix and Fanimatrix actually end with 'matrix' not just 'trix'?

    3. Re:Not to disparage this effort but... by AllUsernamesAreGone · · Score: 1

      Maybe they all want to be sued for trademark infringement by Les Editions Albert Rene...

    4. Re:Not to disparage this effort but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to be an anonymous troll... BUT, from the looks of the trailer, it should be called "Blandimatrix".

    5. Re:Not to disparage this effort but... by caillon · · Score: 2, Funny

      > Did you notice that Animatrix and Fanimatrix actually end with 'matrix' not just 'trix'?

      Um, actually they end with 'animatrix'.

    6. Re:Not to disparage this effort but... by G1itch · · Score: 0

      They don't, there is actually a student made matrix spoof called "the Matron"

    7. Re:Not to disparage this effort but... by drix · · Score: 1
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      I think there is a world market for maybe five personal web logs.
    8. Re:Not to disparage this effort but... by Zardoz44 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because they rhyme. Its very difficult to rhyme with the first few letters.

    9. Re:Not to disparage this effort but... by yomegaman · · Score: 1

      They could have named it after some particular sort of matrix, like "The Heisenberg Hamiltonian". Come to think of it, doesn't that sound like a John le Carre novel?

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    10. Re:Not to disparage this effort but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea. And the X makes it sound cool.

    11. Re:Not to disparage this effort but... by Davak · · Score: 1

      ha! bravo!

    12. Re:Not to disparage this effort but... by Wolfrider · · Score: 1

      That's cuz 'trix is for kids.
      Follow the silly white rabbit.

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      .
      == WolfriderV6 == I'm willing to admit that *I just might* be wrong... Are you??
    13. Re:Not to disparage this effort but... by Ice_Balrog · · Score: 1

      Actually they all end in "matrix", not "trix". They just added a prefix to "matrix" to make the new title. Animatrix, Fanimatrix

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      #include "sig.h"
  15. What's the point? by gL4cier · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Saw Trinity alike, Neo alike & Agent Smith... What's the freaking point anyway. I mean I respect their creativity/artistry n stuff but come on... use them on something else other than matrix copycat. (or try to make a story like one of those animatrix stories)

    1. Re:What's the point? by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "What's the freaking point anyway. I mean I respect their creativity/artistry n stuff but come on... use them on something else other than matrix copycat."

      Gotta start somewhere.

      Even if it sucks, it doesn't matter. If lots of people watch it, then the chances are good that it will attract more indie filmmakers. It legitimizes P2P and it provides the MPAA with much needed competition. Imagine if the MPAA felt it needed to make movies available on-line in order to reach that new market they tried to destroy?

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      "Derp de derp."
  16. The Fanny Matrix? by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 1

    Rated R?

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  17. The FannyMatrix by lwells-au · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Don't bother downloading it, its totally arse.

    1. Re:The FannyMatrix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not in all cultures!!!!!!!!!!

      John de Lancie (ST:TNG's Q) came across this is AU, here the general accepted meaning is a female's genitals.

      BTW (OT) : To all my fellow aussies... GO THE LIONS, AFL premaires 3 times in a ROW...

  18. Guerrila Film makers by Nodatadj · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the trailer it looks like they're competent film makers. I can't comment on the storyline, cos really, the trailer doesn't actually say much about it, its just showing "Look we can copy the stuff the Matrix did".

    I was going to complain about "Why don't these people write their own stories, based on their own created characters, etc etc, then we might have some new worthwhile cinema and new ideas coming though", but I guess there are people who do that, they just don't get on the front page of /.

    I dunno, I guess I have the same feeling about professional cover bands too.

    1. Re:Guerrila Film makers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you think the Matrix was original ?

      hollywood ran out of originality years ago

    2. Re:Guerrila Film makers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As if you've ever done one god damn creative thing in your whole stupid fucking pointless life. Instead of criticizing people who actually GET OFF THEIR ASSES AND DO SOMETHING, why don't you GET OFF YOUR ASS AND DO SOMETHING. I hope you fucking die.

    3. Re:Guerrila Film makers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy shit, get on some medication man. You're ready for someone to die after a comment they made, you must be part of the Bush administration.

    4. Re:Guerrila Film makers by metroid+composite · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Eh, it's not just the explicit remakes that lack innovation. Plenty of Hollywood movies have a "been there, done that" feeling to them. When it comes right down to it, I've watched more than one Jackie Chan movie, enjoyed them, but can't say I found them to be all that different.

      Actually, if people are interested I can try to coerce a film studies prof into writing a /. article. There's quite a few alternative film experts at McGill, and heck some good alternative films have been made here (though I'll sheepishly admit that I missed the screening of the most recent one. I blame the Internet for being too entertaining).

    5. Re:Guerrila Film makers by Nodatadj · · Score: 1

      That might be kinda cool if you can persuade them to do it. Even if /. don't post it, I'd be interested in it.

      I understand that the original films that these remakes are from are not overly innovative or anything, I think I feel that something more creative and more innovative could come from creating everything yourself, rather than taking worlds and characters people have already created and shoehorning your ideas into them. Maybe its just a different type of creativity, but I don't know.

      I felt the same way after coming out of Italian Job (2003). It was a damn cool film, but I felt it had enough ideas and plot to make it a seperate film in its own right, rather than being hailed as an Italian Job remake.

      And currently the best films I've seen all year have been the alternative films that I've seen in the local arthouse cinema: Good Bye Lenin! being the more recent. Check it out if you get the chance.

    6. Re:Guerrila Film makers by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Funny

      " "Why don't these people write their own stories, based on their own created characters, etc etc, then we might have some new worthwhile cinema and new ideas coming though"

      Easier said than done. It's hard to get noticed on-line. But if you start leg-humping another hot-property, then you've instantly got people who are curious.

      When the setting is familiar, it's easy to get a few people to say "what the hell" and get it.

      Don't worry about the noise generated by garbage out there. Look for the gems.

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      "Derp de derp."
    7. Re:Guerrila Film makers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To all these comments I would like to note the predicate "Fan" - hence indicating that the work is a piece of Fan art. As the name of the genre suggests ( and I believe it is indeed a genre), the requirement is for homage, not total originality. Also Raj is not rich, so how easily he could build a whole world on his budget, and get it noticed is a question worth considering when critiquing the originality or lack thereof in this piece.

      You are ( and I address the rich readers) welcome to put your money where your mouth is and offer him a budget with which he can engage in the originality/production standards you, and I assume he, might desire.

      Ewan
      NZ

    8. Re:Guerrila Film makers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Touche`

  19. Save your bandwidth for ROTK by koali · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The trailer in cinemas now will be released for download on monday. Of course, there is a leaked version which is pretty low quality, but still it is STUNNING.

    Return of the King is going to ROCK!

    1. Re:Save your bandwidth for ROTK by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      The trailer in cinemas now will be released for download on monday. Of course, there is a leaked version which is pretty low quality, but still it is STUNNING. Return of the King is going to ROCK!

      Not to threadjack, but... feh. The Twin Towers wasn't particularly good in my opinion. As I go back and look at the FOTR I find it was boring as well. When is someone going to do an interesting modernized fantasy movie like around Dragonlance or the Forgotten Realms world? I just have this issue with these wizards supposedly being so powerful yet never use their magic. Where are the fireballs? Can they at least give us a measily magic missile? Tolkien's wizards are completely weak. Raistlin would've kicked all their asses.

      Oh god, I am such a dork to say that, but it's true.

    2. Re:Save your bandwidth for ROTK by nagora · · Score: 1
      Return of the King is going to ROCK!

      I wish! The forst two were turkies, and unless they've sacked Peter "Some day I may read the book" Jackson then the only thing going for ROTK is that it'll be out in time for Christmas.

      TWW

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  20. Legal? by caillon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Their disclaimer says "Although copyrighted materials (e.g. music and sound fx) do appear in this film, we hope that the spirit of goodwill will prevail in allowing us to feature their work on our movie in the hopes that it will promote their own talents."

    I like the idea, but it seems far fetched that the copyright holders will actually go for this...

    1. Re:Legal? by 3seas · · Score: 1

      Without having seen the movie, its difficulyt to say. But due to the evolving nature of the how the theme is spreading and other factors, it's less likely for there to be legal action against fans showing respect then for a bootlegger.

    2. Re:Legal? by caillon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, if the claims are true and they are using copyrighted music, the RIAA and record labels have shown in the past that they will go after people with out caring who they are. They have no direct connection to the Matrix (AFAICS), and it wouldn't matter to them whether they are sincere fans of the movie or bootleggers. I wonder if the fanimatrix people tried contacting the copyright holders....

    3. Re:Legal? by 3seas · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Well like hey man, we all know the RIAA stands for Really Ignorant Artificial Agents...

    4. Re:Legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is the funniest thing I have read lately. Spirit of goodwll will prevail does not equal profit. Unless you are a buisness ethicist, then there can be in-tangiable benifits that can lead to profit. But no buisnessman thinks that way.
      I like this quote from the disclaimer
      "If you object to any copyrighted material used within this film, kindly contact us and the offending property will be removed IMMEDIATELY without question."
      Yeah they will remove it immediately as well as removeing all their belongings to the curb so it is easier for the repo men to collect when they getted sued for eveything they own.

    5. Re:Legal? by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      I guess the same thing is happening with Star Wars fan films, but I don't think LucasFilm is doing anything special against them either for the same reason.

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    6. Re:Legal? by PollyJean · · Score: 1

      I'm hoping the Wachowskis and co. respect the obvious fandom and do something cool like put it on the Revolutions DVD or something. Stranger things have happened, and the Matrix folks seem to be pretty positive in terms of fannish activities.

      Of course, the Fanimatrix folks might make a better case for themselves if they stopped misspelling "Wachowski" (they repeatedly spell it "Warschowki"). It's like, "We love your work, but we won't bother to spell your names correctly."

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      Think like a person of action, act like a person of thought. --H. Bergson
    7. Re:Legal? by Maserati · · Score: 1

      Well, it's pretty obvious that the code for the Agents is not decended from any sort of aimbot. It'd make for a shorter movie if they did.

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  21. It's a Prelude, Not a Remake by Deslock · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Did you title the story "Re-done" because it sounds more sensationalistic? From their "What is the Fanimatrix" section:

    *********

    "The Fanimatrix - Run Program" is a collaboration between over a dozen professional actors, stuntpeople, special effects artists as well as an amateur filmmaking crew (all based in New Zealand) who set out to accomplish four primary goals:

    1. Do something constructive with our spare time (boredom is a killer y'know...)
    2. Create a short film that the general audience would actually WANT to see
    3. Celebrate our mutual love for one of the finest film sagas put on our screens for over a decade - "The Matrix".
    4. Provide an opportunity for everyone involved to practice and hone their filmmaking skills and respective talents.

    "The Fanimatrix" is a fan-made, zero-budget short film set within the Matrix universe, specifically shortly before the discovery of "The One" (i.e. the first "Matrix" feature film). It tells the story of two rebels - Dante and Medusa - and of their fateful mission onto the virtual reality prison world that is The Matrix.

    The film was shot on the Sony Mini-Digital Video format and edited on a PC editing suite utilizing Adobe Premiere, After FX and AlamDV Special FX. The entire production was completed over nine nights, ranging from six to over fifteen hour shoots, not including rehearsal and blocking-tape-shooting sessions. Most of the props, sets and lighting equipment was borrowed and locations were either hired or shot guerilla style. Although the film was a "zero budget" production, the final cost of the movie (combining personal expenses of cast and crew such as investment into costumes, transport costs, food etc) has reached upto approximately $1000 NZ (or $400-$600 US). The movie was shot entirely within Auckland City, New Zealand (our home).

  22. trailer trash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    From the trailer, the movie actually looks good!

    So did the Matrix II....

  23. Like that actually means something by michiel.h · · Score: 2, Funny
    From the trailer, the movie actually looks good!
    You can say the same about Spy Game and Inspector Gadget.

    Think about that!

    1. Re:Like that actually means something by tonydiesel · · Score: 1

      Are you implying that there was something wrong with Spy Game or Inspector Gadget? What could possibly go wrong with a film starring either Robert Redford or Matthew Broderick? Who didn't love those films?

    2. Re:Like that actually means something by arkane1234 · · Score: 1

      I agree.. spy games was a very good movie.
      I never saw inspector gadget though.. well, the cartoon I did.

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  24. OH! I thought it was... by Illbay · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    FANNI-matrix. I thought it was just a new, high-tech way to fax your butt.

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    1. Re:OH! I thought it was... by dbretton · · Score: 1


      And I thought it was some kind of high-tech way of applying for a mortgage.

  25. Whoever modded this "troll" is a servant of Satan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    either that or they have no sense of humour.

  26. Good on them! by mrd_yaddayadda · · Score: 1

    Hey, it's people just going out and doing something, like this, that get the jobs. Look at 405 The Movie for a good example.

    1. Re:Good on them! by gabeman-o · · Score: 3, Funny

      the above post is obviously an ad for Verisign SiteFinder

    2. Re:Good on them! by mrd_yaddayadda · · Score: 1

      Ah crap. :( 405 : The Movie. THAT is the link...

    3. Re:Good on them! by nutsy · · Score: 1

      Let's try that 405: The Movie link again.

  27. From the trailer... by RedWizzard · · Score: 5, Funny
    From the trailer, the movie actually looks good!
    From the trailer, Reloaded looked good!
  28. Give us a second... by BMonger · · Score: 4, Funny

    "There is no trailer."

  29. YHBT HAND by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nice troll

  30. MOD PARENT UP - really funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this is the first funny soviet russia-joke I've ever seen.

    1. Re:MOD PARENT UP - really funny by mechugena · · Score: 1, Funny

      It's also the first funny soviet-russia joke that's seen YOU!

  31. Edonkey Link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    more distributed load bearing

    ed2k://|file|Fanimatrix-Trailer-(DivX-5.1-HQ).av i| 15007570|F99C2402B3028BDF0CD805947574F868|/

    (not converted to a link as this paranoid site breaks links)

    1. Re:Edonkey Link by *xpenguin* · · Score: 1

      (not converted to a link as this paranoid site breaks links)

      That's exactly why you convert it to a link.

  32. Pretty much all the info from their site... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here is the FAQ. There isn't much other info on the site...

    F A Q

    F.A.Q.

    Q. What the heck does "Fanimatrix" mean?

    A. It's the "Fan"-imatrix. As in it's a "fan" film.

    Q. Will there by any sequels?

    A. Depends. If the movie is popular enough across the Net and if nobody objects to the material, then we may yet see more "Fanimatrix" movies before long. We sure had a lot of fun putting the film together and would relish a second chance, possibly with better equipment and more money as well.

    Q. What the heck IS Medusa doing in that office building?

    A. Both her and Dante's stories provide lead-in material for a larger body of work should more "Fanimatrix" movies be made. You'll have to wait and see.

    Q. What was the most expensive part of the whole project?

    A. Possibly Dante's outfit. The actor - Steven A. Davis - got a little carried away we think ;) That and the amount of petrol we spent zooming around town.

    Q. What city is the story set in?

    A. "Run Program" is not set in the same city that Neo lives in - for one thing all the cars drive on the left side of the road. Although the film is shot in Auckland, we always intended that the setting be something of a bohemian location - possibly Europe. To answer your question succinctly, we didn't really think about it.

    Q. What was the most difficult part of the whole project?

    A. Possibly the three consecutive nights of shooting in the machine-shop location and the Goth bar - over 48 hours of constant filming and practically all of it involving martial arts, wire-fx and handling large amounts of crew and cast. Combined with incredible lack of sleep, sore muscles and the freezing cold, it was the hardest shoot we'd ever done (professionally or otherwise) and many of us went home that night with our bodies riddled with physical pain and exhaustion.

    Q. Is that copy of NMap on Medusa's machine trying to port-scan itself?

    A. Shutupshutupshutupshutup....

    Q. What are your backgrounds in filmmaking?

    A. See our cast and crew page (coming soon).

    Q. What sort of martial arts are featured in the "Fanimatrix"?

    A. The same type you see in the feature films: Wushu (a.k.a. Chinese Martial Arts or Kung Fu).

    Q. Is the story of "Run Program" canon?

    A. No, the "Fanimatrix" films are not to be considered canon at all. We are in no way affiliated or involved with the Warschowski Brothers, Warner Brothers Pictures, Silver Pictures or Village Roadshow.

    1. Re:Pretty much all the info from their site... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh and this...

      "The Fanimatrix - Run Program" is a collaboration between over a dozen professional actors, stuntpeople, special effects artists as well as an amateur filmmaking crew (all based in New Zealand) who set out to accomplish four primary goals:
      Do something constructive with our spare time (boredom is a killer y'know...)
      Create a short film that the general audience would actually WANT to see
      Celebrate our mutual love for one of the finest film sagas put on our screens for over a decade - "The Matrix".
      Provide an opportunity for everyone involved to practice and hone their filmmaking skills and respective talents.

      "The Fanimatrix" is a fan-made, zero-budget short film set within the Matrix universe, specifically shortly before the discovery of "The One" (i.e. the first "Matrix" feature film). It tells the story of two rebels - Dante and Medusa - and of their fateful mission onto the virtual reality prison world that is The Matrix.

      The film was shot on the Sony Mini-Digital Video format and edited on a PC editing suite utilizing Adobe Premiere, After FX and AlamDV Special FX. The entire production was completed over nine nights, ranging from six to over fifteen hour shoots, not including rehearsal and blocking-tape-shooting sessions. Most of the props, sets and lighting equipment was borrowed and locations were either hired or shot guerilla style. Although the film was a "zero budget" production, the final cost of the movie (combining personal expenses of cast and crew such as investment into costumes, transport costs, food etc) has reached upto approximately $1000 NZ (or $400-$600 US). The movie was shot entirely within Auckland City, New Zealand (our home).

  33. Fans of the Matrix? by penguinsloveme · · Score: 1

    This will probably get modded down to -1, Troll, but...

    From the sounds of it, they are more fans of themselves and less fans of the Matrix. People who like the Matrix don't try to overthrow it themselves.

    Just a thought.

    1. Re:Fans of the Matrix? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't you see the irony in that statement? Fans of the Matrix should be those that question _the_most_. The Matrix is a movie for those who dare to ask questions, and the philosophy of the people on the Nebuchadnessar is that of disrespect towards authority.

    2. Re:Fans of the Matrix? by johnny0101 · · Score: 1

      and the philosophy of the people on the Nebuchadnessar is that of disrespect towards authority.

      And disrespect for authority has got humans everywhere so much... anarchy.

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  34. Of Wizards by Farscry · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Well, I can't believe I'm going to bite, but I'll do it anyway. ;)

    See, Tolkien's wizards were probably loosely based upon the mythical wizards from his time: Merlin and others of his ilk.

    Back in the myths, wizards were defined more by their long age, wisdom, and foresight.

    Modern fantasy literature defines wizards as those who wield flashy special effects and blow shit up. Not that I mind flashy methods of blowing up stuff. ;)

    Basically, modern fantasy has done to wizards what Star Wars has done to space movies: more flashiness, less subtlety.

    Again, I'm not ripping on the wizards of Raistlin's ilk, just pointing out how Lord of the Rings is more of a classical fantasy (if such a thing exists). I love it and am absolutely pleased with how the books have translated to film.

    That said, I'd love to see a well-done film adaptation of the Dragonlance stories as well!

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    1. Re:Of Wizards by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Modern fantasy literature defines wizards as those who wield flashy special effects and blow shit up. Not that I mind flashy methods of blowing up stuff. ;)

      Tolkien's the one who started pop-culture down that path, though, even if he didn't move much in that direction himself.

      His whole style was based on taking myth and making it concrete. More direct and immediate. Instead of Shakespere-style fairies that live in vaguely remembered dreams, his dwarves and elves were real people that cursed, sweated, and bled.

      Too, his Gandalf held the seeds of a modern fireball-tossing 'wizard'. Although the reader never watched Gandalf display distructive power, he always knew it was there. This was particularly affirmed in the offscreen Balrog-fight. Knowing that Gandalf had stood toe-to-toe with such a demonic brute implied his own aggressive power were vast, but the details were left to the imaginations of individual readers. The 2nd and 3rd generations of typical "fantasy" authors grew up on that, and wrote down their own interpretations of what a magical battle would entail.

      Basically, modern fantasy has done to wizards what Star Wars has done to space movies: more flashiness, less subtlety.

      The real change was "more budget, more budget". Have you seen space movies before Star Wars? The direct cultural precedent was Flash Gordon... equally flashy, except it couldn't afford a big display. Few "space movies", before or after, have been intentionally subtle. (Yes, we can point to 2001 and Alien as exceptions)

      In certain ways, Star Wars was distinctly more subtle than prior "sci fi" movies: in the presentation of "alien" costumes. Prior movies had every alien as an important threat or mysterious savior- something that draws the camera to center on it whenever it's in frame. Lucas, for the first time, allowed weird-looking aliens as background characters and barkeepers. A distinctly subtle way to emphasize the strangess and variety of the setting.

      (Note that he backed away from that restrained style in the 3rd and especially 4th Star Wars films. The 2-headed race-announcer, for example, was purely body-shape as punchline. Ironically, the technical constraint of needed actors inside suits had helped keep the creature design within credible limits)

      That said, I'd love to see a well-done film adaptation of the Dragonlance stories as well!

      It couldn't possibly be worse than the film called "Dungeons and Dragons", right?

      Actually, Dragonlance would work better as a 9 episode miniseries (covering one trilogy), on a cable network like the SciFi channel. The main cast of primary heros is too large to fit in a single film. The lower FX budget would keep them from going overboard on spectacle (you don't want to black out the sky with dragons- that distracts from the sheer power just one of those beasts should represent)

    2. Re:Of Wizards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When asked about what happened to the Ithril Luin (the blue Istari; Pallandro and Alatar), Tolkien said he believes they probably remained in Middle Earth and later gave birth to secret societies and magical cults that are known today in a historical perspective.

    3. Re:Of Wizards by madmancarman · · Score: 1
      The lower FX budget would keep them from going overboard on spectacle (you don't want to black out the sky with dragons- that distracts from the sheer power just one of those beasts should represent)

      I haven't read the original Dragonlance trilogy in years, but doesn't the third book have flying citadels and dragons blacking out the sky? Besides, even the SciFi network would have plenty of budget to do the CG for a 9-part Dragonlance series, considering the popularity of the series and the potential increased interest due to LotR. The hard part would be to find exactly the right person to play Raistlin. Hell, The Rock could play Caramon...

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    4. Re:Of Wizards by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

      I haven't read the original Dragonlance trilogy in years, but doesn't the third book have flying citadels and dragons blacking out the sky?

      "The 3rd book" is a key part of the sentence. To create a real sense of import, the big shocking effects should be saved up til the end. If they show up in the first episode, viewers will interpret them as the normal situation for Kyrnn, and not share the characters shock at just how dangerous and strange it is. But, TV executives will want to "hook" viewers with a big bang at the start, and will press for something amazing in the opening episode. I just hope they wouldn't go too far. A single dragon or pair of draconians should be incredible enough, if presented right.

      (I suppose one valid approach to "open with a bang" would be to imitate the structure of the LOTR movie, and start with a major ancient battle. In the Dragonlance world, the legend of Huma could suffice to introduce both their SFX abilities, and the master villian)

      Also, flying-citadels are somewhat of a mild effect. Nothing flashy there, just a big rock in the distance or an ominous shadow. And the evil Kyrnn dragons, though numerous, never formed the hilariously dense flocks seen in the "D&D" movie.

      The hard part would be to find exactly the right person to play Raistlin.

      Finding appropriate actors for all the roles would be difficult. Raistlin would be a challenge not just because of his phyiscal deformities, but also because he should bear a great resembelance to Caramon. But there's also the whole host of non-human (and even non-mammalian) characters...

      The best way to attempt it might be as a fully CG affair, rather like the "Final Fantasy" movie (but with a better storyline!)

      Hell, The Rock could play Caramon...

      I hope not. Maybe the physique is there, but not the personality. In all his acting (which includes "sports entertainment"), Dwyane Johnson as projected a forceful, aggressive, even mean (if not evil) attitude. Caramon should be gentle, passive, "whipped", fearful of his own power.

      Also, an actor might not enjoy playing "strong, but dumb" and easily manipulated. Dwyane hopes to be an action hero, a leading man, and won't willingly take on roles where he displays no initiative.

      PS. The game of assigning major stars to Dragonlance roles has a long history on the internet. A web search will find you many old posts with full lists of suggested actors.

  35. This one "look" like Matrix to me, too. by Gabriel_knight · · Score: 1

    Some people send me this link:
    http://geekadv.finacstudio.com/html/2minutes.html

    Although this one didn't mention they "copy" Matrix, or they like Matrix, and the Director deny it has something to related to Matrix, but the fact is that it feel like Matrix.

  36. error message by tuukkah · · Score: 1
    Could you help guessing the problem:
    [16:24:29] problem getting response info - [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'http://www.fanimatrix.net/Fanimatrix-Trailer-(MPE G).mpg.torrent'
    1. Re:error message by tuukkah · · Score: 1

      I saw the error with version 3.2.1b-5 from Debian, but with 3.3-2 the download went fine.

  37. Today is the 27th sep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting


    so where is the full film ?

    1. Re:Today is the 27th sep by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      That's my question. I looked all over the site, and I can't find it. I gotta say, for something that cost $400-$600 to make, the trailer looked pretty sweet.

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    2. Re:Today is the 27th sep by eggoeater · · Score: 1

      Actually it's been the 28th in New Zealand for some time now....they're right next to the international date line. There's something on the web site about being logged-in as 'guest', but I think that's just BS on the site for "look-and-feel" effect.
      Has anyone seen a link to download the full movie?
      Does anyone know how long the whole movie is?
      -Steve

    3. Re:Today is the 27th sep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have seen the movie - at the Premiere on Friday. Total running time is about 20mins, and it will be posted to the site asap - some are still recovering from the post-premiere party :-)

    4. Re:Today is the 27th sep by Snover · · Score: 1

      TORRENT shares:

      medium quality mpeg (140M)
      low quality divx (73M)
      high quality divx (135M)

      Share and enjoy.

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  38. No, silly, just following the pattern by tigre · · Score: 1
    Did you title the story "Re-done" because it sounds more sensationalistic?


    The Matrix Re* (visited, loaded, volutions, -done)

  39. meaning in the matrix by cyko500 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    After watching the matrix many times I've come to the conclusion that there is no meaning that was supposed to be put into the movie. There are many little details thrown in to make people think about possible meanings, but there is no intentional meaning in the movie. Read some good literature and you'll find that there is an exact message the writer wants to convey. It seems to me that the matrix just uses some neato big words and a bit of confusion as a ploy. People want to find some meaning (and are too lazy to read a good book) so they obsess over the details of the movie and proclaim that the movie was intellectually deep and had lots of action.

    Someone's DEFINATELY gonna flame me.... not to mention a lil off topic :P

    1. Re:meaning in the matrix by wils0n · · Score: 1

      I think the writers of this fiction do have some specific messages to convey, but I doubt they will expound upon it until the whole story has been told. The basic premise of the story is very old, but this retelling of it brings a multitude of valid meanings.

      Of course people will try to find a deeper meaning. That is the point of telling the story.

    2. Re:meaning in the matrix by cosmol · · Score: 1

      I think that there is definitely some truth to your assessment, but I have to disagree with your assertion that all good narratives have an "exact message." Yeah, the plot of the second movie is especially convoluted. Yeah, a lot of things don't make sense, and I pity the fool who thinks it forms a coherent story. Yet I still loved the movie, and I it sparked a lot of thought in me. There are so many aspects to the movie that none of them ever become central to understanding the film. The absence of a clear-cut message allows the viewer to inject their own message into the story. Of course this is coming from a David Lynch fan :)

    3. Re:meaning in the matrix by JayBlalock · · Score: 1
      I don't think that's something that can really be decided until Revolutions is out. People close to the film have sworn it really does answer all the big questions left over from Reloaded. We'll just have to wait and see.

      And for that matter, it's not like a film HAS to simply have a single meaningful plot to be good. My all-time favorite anime is Serial Experiments Lain, and it could be argued it doesn't have a plot at all. (IE, it's entirely about asking interesting questions)

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    4. Re:meaning in the matrix by bj8rn · · Score: 1

      The writer may want to convey an exact meaning, but good books (and films etc) always have more meaning in them than the author originally intended. That's why good books are read even after centuries - they still produce a meaning even long after they were written (and also why some authors are discovered only after they have died). What you find to be the meaning of a book may not be the same the next time you read it. If a book (or a movie or whatever) produces exactly the same meaning every time, you read (or "read") it, it's probably not too good, or has died.

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    5. Re:meaning in the matrix by secolactico · · Score: 1

      Paraphrasing from Mad Magazine:

      [As a director]
      After x number of succesfull movies, critics start finding hidden symbolims in your movies that you never put there in the first place.

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    6. Re:meaning in the matrix by oddaddresstrap · · Score: 0

      "You think that's air you're breathing now?" -- Morpheus In other words, "The only person stopping you from doing something is yourself, and looking for excuses all the time justs gets in the way of obtaining your own goals. It's like the writer who keeps getting up and straightening out the pictures in the room. -- Chrissie Hynde, singer" In other words, "Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. -- Nelson Mandela"

    7. Re:meaning in the matrix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Matrix fanboys are gay.

  40. Love that... by Darth+Gambit · · Score: 1

    /. effect :)

    I'll check it later. Much more important things to watch like the 1860 Munich v Suttgard game

    1. Re:Love that... by ptr2void · · Score: 1

      s/Suttgard/Stuttgart/

  41. I AGREE WITH THIS POST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  42. More Baudrillard references by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    There are more references in the movie to Baudrillard's "Simulacra and Simulation." In fact, the entire movie is based on his world of signs without a reference ("the simulacra is the truth that hides the fact that there is none").

    All through the movie signs are placed and later shown to be fake.

    Furthermore Baudrillard advocates all out terrorism and violence to destroy the system (he does that in the last essay in the book), but admits that even terrorism will be assimilated into the system of simulacra by the simulators.

    The gnostic and biblical references are just sugar coating.

    1. Re:More Baudrillard references by LordLucless · · Score: 1

      And you'll notice Neo actually has a copy of Baudrillard's "Simulacra and Simulation" on his bookshelf. It's the hollowed out book where he keeps his contraband software. So the book that talks about simulucra isn't actually a book, it's only the image of a book.

      I laughed myself silly over that one. I have no life.

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  43. Re:Wow they must have one hell of a pipe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    considering he said KB I would say yes you little jew.

  44. Many interpretations are better than one by wils0n · · Score: 1

    What you find problematic with the Matrix is a good example of what makes the story so great.

    You can apply so many interpretations to the meanings of the story and its characters. And each interpretation can have an almost complete comparison to a philosophical analogy or school of thought.

    Many people apply the hero journey as the correct interpretation. I find them all intriguing.

  45. Well, probablly not Rated X. by suso · · Score: 1

    Some french company already released the Pornimatrix. It was actually kinda funny. Er, not that I saw it or anything. Oh drat. ;-)

    1. Re:Well, probablly not Rated X. by Garion911 · · Score: 1

      I really don't need to see bullet time in that one...

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  46. Whats that vibe? by geeknews · · Score: 1

    What is that song in the trailer anyone know?

    1. Re:Whats that vibe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Guardian Angel by Juno Reactor

    2. Re:Whats that vibe? by Scorchmon · · Score: 1

      It's Reload by Rob Zombie off the Matrix Reloaded soundtrack.

    3. Re:Whats that vibe? by Dh2000 · · Score: 1

      Guardian Angel by Juno Reactor... and what Scorchmon said..

  47. groan... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    when will you geeks realize that the Matrix is just a so-so science-fiction movie, whose sole 'meaning' is to sell popcorn.

    Go watch a real movie. Like 'Scarface'.
    Say hello to my little friend.

  48. Mystery Men by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's great to see Ben Stiller working, again.

  49. Who needs the bloody MPAA?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes! This shows that, as time progresses, we will need less and less of organizations like MPAA and hollywood; people will be turning out local, low-budget films, that will probably be much more interesting than huge-budget films, with extreme overkill on the special effects, and extremely horrible acting(*cough* Star wars ep I & II come to mind *cough*). I welcome this new occurance!

    1. Re:Who needs the bloody MPAA?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...

      Dumbass. This is ONE freakin' short film. Short films are made all the time, and nobody watches them, and nobody cares, because they're about gay cowboys eating pudding. So, these guys make a movie, and the only reason you even HEAR of it is because it's based on a major MPAA-controlled work.

  50. Sorry, but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Those names are the most retarded things I've ever heard. Who would EVER use something called "un-office"???

    Being consistent is a sure sign of sanity. Never go that path, my son.

  51. Reloaded WAS good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And anyone who disagrees with me can watch a double feature of VIRUS and SUPERNOVA and learn the true definition of "that which sucks."

  52. lilo by pr0ntab · · Score: 1

    LInux LOader.

    Well, I can't take of any others. Point taken.

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  53. This should be legal... by sterno · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This should be legal for two reasons:

    1) none of the copyright holders for any of the material used in this film or that this film is based on are losing ANYTHING because of it

    2) they aren't making money. In fact, they are losing money on it.

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    1. Re:This should be legal... by The+Kow · · Score: 4, Informative

      Legally speaking, I believe they are. IANAL, but I did take a business law course which discussed the *real* necessities for a copyright infringement lawsuit, and, while I don't remember precise details, I do remember that having to document dollar-value losses is not a part of the requirement. Tarnishment is considered a viable 'loss' as are several other intangibles.

      Think for a moment that you're a company who's copyrighted work is being subjected to a fan-imitation work that you've AUTHORIZED. Someone else comes along and does the same thing and finishes there work before the authorized fan-mimicked work is released. The second one comes out, and your attempts to market it have now been cut short.

      In addition, you may not want people dilluting your trademarked logo, fictitious world, or concepts. Trademark is a whole new can of worms, though, and I don't remember enough of that to really get deep into it, either.

      Suffice it to say that your two reasons wouldn't cut the mustard, unfortunately.

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    2. Re:This should be legal... by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "This should be legal for two reasons:"

      Playing devil's advocate here:

      "It should be illegal because it could confuse people about coypright law."

      The way it works now is that if the creator of a copyrighted work doesn't act when he or she knows it's being infringed on, then they're basically waiving their right to protect it. So if somebody copycats this movie and it pisses off Warner Brothers, then they'll have to go after the first one before they can go after the second one.

      It'd be real nice if they could recieve a "We grant you permission to use this" letter from those places.

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    3. Re:This should be legal... by LordLucless · · Score: 1

      IANAL, but I don't think that's the case. It is for trademarks I believe (Hence cases against Kleenex and Xerox and Band-Aid; there was the thought that the names for these products had become a part of the english language, not a label for a product) but in the case of copyrights, I don't believe you can lose them for not enforcing them.

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  54. ON SLASHDOT ANY FUCKING SHIT MOVIE LOOKS GOOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    kthxbye

  55. THE MATRIX SUCKED THE FIRST TIME, NO MORE PLS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    kthx kthx bye

  56. Better than Reloaded? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wouldn't be hard. I can't remember the last time I was actually bored throughout so much of a movie. Fight, long speech, long fight, long speech, long fight, long speech, finale fight, end. Ugh. I actually felt embarrased during a few parts of the movie (e.g. Morpheus' endless caveman rant).

    It'd be funny wouldn't it, if this fan-flick turned out to be like "The Phantom Edit"--a movie that was actually interesting. God bless you Lucas and the W-bros for what you created, but you should have stopped while you were ahead.

    You know what these indie fan-flick creators should really do... open source the material. I wonder what kind of movie we'd end up with after a few dozen people had tweaked it. Would it evolve like code, constantantly getting new features, fixed plot holes, better CGI, forks when two groups had different ideas about how the picture should evolve?

    Somehow, people have this notion that stories should be set in stone, forever remembered exactly as they were created. But this is only a recent development. For the vast majority of human history, when stories were passed down verbally, they evolved from generation to generation, teller to teller. Some stories were preserved for ages because it was possible to allow them to stay relevant and interesting with subtle changes when necessary. 50 years from now will anyone still care about Reloaded? Probably not. But might it be different if people could "fix" it when necessary (like right now). Who knows?

  57. Mod Parent UP!!! -- Freakin' Hilarious!! by soren100 · · Score: 1

    Just because someone posts a viewpoint far from the ordinary doesn't mean he's trolling or flaming.

    I loved the part about the batteries -- "chaotic transcendence" and "brain exploding" -- that was pretty funny, and well put.

    the rest of the post is pretty funny as well.

    I would mod it up as funny, but those without a sense of humor would probably get scared by it and mod it back down. This has generated over 20 replies so far -- trolls just don't get that kind of play. If he is trolling, he did a darn good job. Mod posts down for being stupid or offensive, not for just thinking differently.

    This post is interesting because it generates thought, and interest. There is no -1 (fundamentalist) option.

  58. Gothimatrix? by Evilive · · Score: 0, Troll

    I'm not knocking the movie itself - it's far better than anything I could do in less than 2 weeks. But to me it seemed a showcase for a bunch of don't-know-if-i'm-bi-straight-or-gay Goths that found a way to get themselves the attention they so desparately crave. Trent Reznor, Marilyn Manson or Twiggy Ramirez could've been cast and nobody would've noticed.

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  59. 800MHz required for the HQ trailer?! by bmerlin · · Score: 1

    My poor little 350MHz Sawtooth G4 plays it just fine using MPlayer OSX -- either the DiVX Windoze player sucks or peecees really are that slow.

  60. New Zealand, eh? by GuyMannDude · · Score: 1

    Man, think of the possibilities. You've seen Neo fight 100 Agent Smiths simultaneously now watch him do battle against 50 billion sheep! Burly brawl, make way for Wooly brawl!

    I pity the fool who would have to digitially add sunglasses to each one of those little dudes...

    GMD

    1. Re:New Zealand, eh? by rh2600 · · Score: 1

      haw-haw-haw! Classic that one! Gee did you think up the sheep jokes all by yourself? Let me guess, you are from Australia right? It's obvious... No need to get all antsy because little brother down here has been making great films like LOTR, (while recent matrix where a disappointment) has the netball world cup, is about to get the rugby world cup, the warriors are about to win the league, and any day our boy Scott Dixon is going to be going to F1... Are you worried that new matrixes may not be shot in Oz anymore and may go to WETA? Don't worry, this film is made in an entirely different city than where WETA is. You just keep up with the sheep jokes, and we will keep forging ahead...

    2. Re:New Zealand, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you know New Zealand has roughly 50 million sheep, while Australia has roughly 150 million?

      New Zealand is 3rd in sheep production, after Australia and Russia...

  61. Plutoian Shore Productions by GuyMannDude · · Score: 1

    Also, aren't they infringing on WB's copyright?

    I dunno but when I first saw the big Plutoian Shore Productions logo come up I screamed in terror because I thought it said "Pauly Shore Productions"!

    Now that would have sucked, my friends.

    GMD

  62. A Rallying Point? by Chilltowner · · Score: 1

    There seem to be more and more of these kinds of ultra-independent movies coming out as the technology gets cheaper and the software more widespread. Is there a central rallying point for these kinds of zero-budget films? Some sort of collective or wiki or forum site or anything? This process of doing these movies really fascinates me, and I'd wonder what all these folks would say if they got themselves and their projects together in the same place. I mean, there's atomfilms, but that's even more more mainstream than this kind of stuff, IMHO. Anyone?

  63. OMG THAT"S FUNNY!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No text. But that matrix clips is funny. Wish I had a MOD point.

  64. Its really bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just saw the trailer, and all I can say is that it looked like a bad 1980's Duran Duran video.

    Torture us no more.

  65. Is it This One ? by dbretton · · Score: 1

    Do you mean this one?

  66. Depends... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It depends. If they quoted a fair use sample, there's nothing anyone can do to stop them.

    If they outright copied complete music or an extended sound fx sequence, they're in trouble.

  67. This should be like mobbing. by antdude · · Score: 1

    My friend suggested mobbing. I think that's the term that recent events used (people shouting at each other for no reason -- planned out) in public places. It would be amusing to see this with Matrix theme. ;)

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  68. from their web site's FAQ by fishexe · · Score: 1

    something of a bohemian location - possibly Europe.

    That would make since, given that Bohemia is in Europe.

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  69. Relax, pal by GuyMannDude · · Score: 1

    haw-haw-haw! Classic that one! Gee did you think up the sheep jokes all by yourself? Let me guess, you are from Australia right? It's obvious...

    I've never stepped foot on the asian continent. I happen to have a good friend who's a kiwi and he never seems to go ape-shit over the sheep jokes. Just relax. So you guys have a lot of sheep. So what? We've got Ashcroft. Every country has got to have something that the rest of the world can laugh at.

    GMD

  70. yawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    another unoriginal fanmovie

  71. siskel's corpse gives it a thumbs down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this looks like ass. dont bother downloading it. wait for the real deal.

  72. Fanimatrix is now ready to download by wishes · · Score: 1

    Its now downloadable Go to website. Please use the torrent if you can, it helps ease the bandwidth consumption and general costs :D Thanks!

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  73. Re:A bit OT, but I need help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll put up $10/year. I think that's more than generous.

  74. Full Release Available! by Angram · · Score: 1

    In case you were wondering, the Full Release just came out.

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    1. Re:Full Release Available! by theCoder · · Score: 1

      The US mirror is gone due to the slashdot effect (that's litereally what it says). But the torrent link still seems to work.

      Here are other bt links for the full release (from their download page):
      BITTORRENT : Normal Quality mpeg (will play on anything): 170 meg
      BITTORRENT : Normal Quality DivX : 73 meg
      BITTORRENT : High Quality DivX : 135 meg

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  75. Final TORRENT Link by sineltor · · Score: 1

    ...and to all those who want to watch the whole thing here's the complete torrent (135 MB)

    The-Fanimatrix-(DivX-5.1-HQ).avi.torrent

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  76. New Matrix Revolutions Theatrical Trailer by Uncle+Pow · · Score: 1

    Did anyone else notice, in the last clip of video in the new trailer, you can see a blue sky with the moon clearly visible behind the diving ship. It will be interesting to find out if this is at the end of the movie or near the begining. If it's at the begining, it will mean that the "Human farms" are now expendable because the Machines will have access to solar power again! Does anyone else see how much just that one clip adds to the mystery of the coming movie and what may happen?

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    1. Re:New Matrix Revolutions Theatrical Trailer by chrome · · Score: 1

      Look at it carefully.

      Step through frame by frame.

      They are above the clouds.

  77. Wha? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've watched about 5 minutes of it so far, and while their technical expertise is clearly up to snuff, near as I can tell it is a vision of what The Matrix would have been if they'd cast Ben Stiller as Neo and Doogie Howser as Agent Smith.

  78. First hand experience by EvilLumpy · · Score: 1

    Being one of the fortunate (!) souls getting their butts kicked within this film, I would like to say that we're all very much ecstatic with the final result. Being a part of the engine, you never get to see the whole thing until it's done and everyone can see it. There were a bunch of questions I saw but I can't remember them all so I won't bother with any just now. I would like to mention that the imitation of the characters Neo and Trinity are purely incidental, err, I think. I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have worked without a female in wet-look PVC and a male that can kick butt.

  79. Site dead yet? by MadJo · · Score: 1

    Apparently the site got /.-ed and is still gone...

    1. Re:Site dead yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tis back up now.

      Slashdot bring pain!

  80. Fanimatrix credits too long! by iamhassi · · Score: 1

    The first 45 seconds and last minute and a half is nothing but credits, disclaimers, and other BS. What a waste! This isn't a 2 hour movie guys, you don't need 2+ minutes for a 14:30 clip, especially when we're downloading it, adding an extra ~25 megs on the mpeg version. Besides that some of the fight scenes were a little slow and obviously choreographed, and the whole British theme is overdone since everyone knows every nationality will speak American English in the future...

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