MS's backup environment was all UNIX based. They hired a HUGE storage services company to design/install/implement backups for them on Win2k servers with Veritas Netbackup.
This all happened AFTER the UNIX news was leaked.
Imagine being a UNIX Admin working for Microsoft? Scary thought.
Work productivity will be going down if this happens. People won't want to risk their minutes...eh...capacity on checking email, etc.
Push back on businesses to pay for all or some of the ISP burden will increase, and have to be honored to get employees to work from home if/when they need to.
Sales of Linux distros will go through the roof, becuase people won't want to pay for the bandwidth to download them.
I will be demanding an immediate discount for having to accept the following traffic through my cable modem.
1. SPAM (nuff said on this)
2. Browser Pop-Up advertising
3. Hackers hitting my firewall trying to get into my network
Destroy my device at your whim? After I bought and paid for it.?.?
Why do I see this as being a violation of some basic consumer rights law somewhere???
Go to college. Too many people say that High School is the best time of your life. They lied. If you GO AWAY to college (read: out of Mom and Dad's reach), you will be the better person for it.
Earning a BS or BA degree will show a prospective employer that you can set goals for yourself and see something through to the end.
Generally hiring managers are looking for the better employee. I know if I had to chose between a college grad and a HS grad with the same skills, I'd take the college grad in a heartbeat.
College will teach you things you can't learn on the job.
You're 18, you think you know everything, and you want some serious money. I know...I was there.
The truth of the matter is, you don't know shit about shit and you NEED to go to college and finish growing up. The world and your career will thank you for it later in your life.
People who go for the quick gain end up paying in the long run.
Also, think about the quote below. There is much meaning in it.
(Polically correct statment) Tech support people should fluently speak the language of the country they service.
(Outright rant) Tech support people shoule #%^!#^@$@ speak ENGLISH!!!! I shouldn't have to say "Excuse me" or "Could you say that again?" or "What?" 10,000 times during a support call.
Second: Would it be too much to ask for companies to train their tech support people on their products?
My hat's off to you for wanting to go to college. Pick whichever degree program interests you more. You have to get your degree for you, not for your job or someone else. If you're not interested in the material, you probably won't do well.
I'm a CS grad personally, and I'll tell you that the MIS courses are boring as hell to me, and I'm glad I made this descision, becuase it was the right one for me.
I only hope that our 19/20 year old friend is reading this thread with his "five years of inudstry experience", he should have the smarts to go to college as well.
1) Be thankful you have a job that gets you a paycheck right now. There are so many unemployed IT people right now and you should be making love to that paycheck you get on a regular basis.
2) Go get yourself a degree. Having a college education speaks volumes in a bad economy. If you go out looking for a new job, odds are you will lose out to someone that just got or has a degree. Even if you go part time, it shows you are trying to improve yourself.
3) Your biggest friend right now is your manager. If he's telling you these things, he's either doing it as a tactic to get you to move on or he really likes you and is trying to help. If it comes down to court, make sure you have him as a witness.
4) Your IT Director is a prick. Anyone who would be trying to toss someone onto the street today has no conscience. I will say that most of the IT Directors I have met in my life are nothing more than total gutless pricks. You may find the jewel in the sand one day, but not today it seems. They don't know anything, but think they know everything. Being an IT Director is just a place to be to get you out of the way so the grunts and managers can get real work done.
My advice to you is to get out while the going is good, but remember...YOU ARE ONLY 20 YEARS OLD. You DO NOT have 5 years of industry experice. I'm 31 and I have 12 years under my belt, becuase I worked while I was in college.
Get yourself a new job that has Tuition reembursment as a benny and go get your Bachelors degree. There are too many little snots out there, like yourself, without degrees. You think you know it all, but in fact, you know nothing. Your generation will one day be IT Directors. I just hope they know something when they get there, becuase you'll be having my generation of VPs hiring/promoting you.
In summary:
- Thank your lucky stars you have a paycheck
- Get a new job with Tuition as a perk and get a degree
- Trust your manager, for information only
- Most IT Directors are pricks
- You only have about 1-2 years of experience, not 5
- Don't carry this through your career...learn from it
- Lastly..."He who has the paper, WINS!!!" Right now, your Director has the paper and you don't.
You can tell everyone for this silly notion is some money grubbing bean counter that's been using the internet since the boom in the early 90's or less.
Everyone that's not favoring this is an internet fossil like myself and remembers what the internet was like before our first spammer friends (The Green Card Lawyers). Hold up your 'Spamming the Globe" coffee mugs everyone.
My point is that I pay enough $$ to my ISP, why do I want to pay more $$ to content providers? I would easilly spend an additional $40 on slashdot, ESPN, and Fantasy Sports a month...easilly.
What if you are a job seeker? Are you going to have to pay a penny a page to look for a new job? Yeah...please. In this bad economy, the unemployed would be shelling out insane amounts to find work.
This model doesn't work, and the internet will become what most other cool things is this country have become....
FOR THE OBSENELY RICH & ELITE.
Gates will get his only wet dream come true. It won't be the internet anymore. It will be Gatesworld or Micronet or something equally as disgusting. I can hear Robin Leach now. "The internet. Once for the average Joe on the corner, but nowwwww it's the same crap but costs you 10 times as much."
One cent a page indeed...give me a break.
The world would be a better place if everyone wasn't out to make a buck.
There are too many UNIX Admins out of work, of which, I am one. Let us get back to work first.
In times of crisis, UNIX Admins only think of themselves.:)
An entry level helpdesk job is the place to start. Certifications are nice, but don't get one to get one. Learn the material. Good UNIX people can spot the textbook Certs a mile away. Most of the time you wont find a person with UNIX certs and an MCSE.
They are usually HPC (High Paid Consultants) or a textbook weenie.
Slashdot Mirror
My company (sorry can't say at this point) is currently developing its next generation voice product with a RH Linux backend.
Just one more thing to worry about in the security world. As is the 1GB email mongers aren't bad enough. Now UNIX Admins will be trash collectors too.
"Could everyone delete some files? We're running out of space on the server. This would include your trashcans as well."
Response:
"Doesn't the janitorial staff take care of that?"
Unix has entered the world of the clueless.
Don't know if this is still true, but...
MS's backup environment was all UNIX based. They hired a HUGE storage services company to design/install/implement backups for them on Win2k servers with Veritas Netbackup.
This all happened AFTER the UNIX news was leaked.
Imagine being a UNIX Admin working for Microsoft? Scary thought.
Could someone stuff Mr. Ballmer with more Twinkies please.
He could be a walking Eric Cartman, however, he'd have to be cool first.
Either simulate or cause a disaster. Also simulate that there are no IT people in the organization.
Hmmmm, should this simulation be scheduled?
Now ask the people who would normally be in charge of IT (usually a CFO, CIO, or COO) at the director/exec level to fix the problem propperly.
The checkbook for contractor/vendor/consulting dollars will probably fly open.
IT is the nervous system of any company. You know you've got one somewhere, but unless you get hurt in a major way, you'll never know it's there.
Work productivity will be going down if this happens. People won't want to risk their minutes...eh...capacity on checking email, etc.
Push back on businesses to pay for all or some of the ISP burden will increase, and have to be honored to get employees to work from home if/when they need to.
Sales of Linux distros will go through the roof, becuase people won't want to pay for the bandwidth to download them.
I will be demanding an immediate discount for having to accept the following traffic through my cable modem.
1. SPAM (nuff said on this)
2. Browser Pop-Up advertising
3. Hackers hitting my firewall trying to get into my network
Destroy my device at your whim? After I bought and paid for it.?.? Why do I see this as being a violation of some basic consumer rights law somewhere???
Go to college. Too many people say that High School is the best time of your life. They lied. If you GO AWAY to college (read: out of Mom and Dad's reach), you will be the better person for it.
Earning a BS or BA degree will show a prospective employer that you can set goals for yourself and see something through to the end.
Generally hiring managers are looking for the better employee. I know if I had to chose between a college grad and a HS grad with the same skills, I'd take the college grad in a heartbeat.
College will teach you things you can't learn on the job.
You're 18, you think you know everything, and you want some serious money. I know...I was there.
The truth of the matter is, you don't know shit about shit and you NEED to go to college and finish growing up. The world and your career will thank you for it later in your life.
People who go for the quick gain end up paying in the long run.
Also, think about the quote below. There is much meaning in it.
The other problem with customer support is caring.
AT&T Broadband knows they are usually the only game in town, so they don't have to care about the customer.
A little caring would be very nice.
You provide an Internet service...why not care about the service you provide?
Your customers will be greatful for that.
First:
(Polically correct statment)
Tech support people should fluently speak the language of the country they service.
(Outright rant)
Tech support people shoule #%^!#^@$@ speak ENGLISH!!!! I shouldn't have to say "Excuse me" or "Could you say that again?" or "What?" 10,000 times during a support call.
Second:
Would it be too much to ask for companies to train their tech support people on their products?
yes, but attbi.NET would be so much better.
Has Big Bad Bill finally learned? Does ne now realize that customers are VERY interested in Microsoft fixing bugs, not adding new features?
My hat's off to you for wanting to go to college. Pick whichever degree program interests you more. You have to get your degree for you, not for your job or someone else. If you're not interested in the material, you probably won't do well.
I'm a CS grad personally, and I'll tell you that the MIS courses are boring as hell to me, and I'm glad I made this descision, becuase it was the right one for me.
I only hope that our 19/20 year old friend is reading this thread with his "five years of inudstry experience", he should have the smarts to go to college as well.
Good luck to you.
Four things...
1) Be thankful you have a job that gets you a paycheck right now. There are so many unemployed IT people right now and you should be making love to that paycheck you get on a regular basis.
2) Go get yourself a degree. Having a college education speaks volumes in a bad economy. If you go out looking for a new job, odds are you will lose out to someone that just got or has a degree. Even if you go part time, it shows you are trying to improve yourself.
3) Your biggest friend right now is your manager. If he's telling you these things, he's either doing it as a tactic to get you to move on or he really likes you and is trying to help. If it comes down to court, make sure you have him as a witness.
4) Your IT Director is a prick. Anyone who would be trying to toss someone onto the street today has no conscience. I will say that most of the IT Directors I have met in my life are nothing more than total gutless pricks. You may find the jewel in the sand one day, but not today it seems. They don't know anything, but think they know everything. Being an IT Director is just a place to be to get you out of the way so the grunts and managers can get real work done.
My advice to you is to get out while the going is good, but remember...YOU ARE ONLY 20 YEARS OLD. You DO NOT have 5 years of industry experice. I'm 31 and I have 12 years under my belt, becuase I worked while I was in college.
Get yourself a new job that has Tuition reembursment as a benny and go get your Bachelors degree. There are too many little snots out there, like yourself, without degrees. You think you know it all, but in fact, you know nothing. Your generation will one day be IT Directors. I just hope they know something when they get there, becuase you'll be having my generation of VPs hiring/promoting you.
In summary:
- Thank your lucky stars you have a paycheck
- Get a new job with Tuition as a perk and get a degree
- Trust your manager, for information only
- Most IT Directors are pricks
- You only have about 1-2 years of experience, not 5
- Don't carry this through your career...learn from it
- Lastly..."He who has the paper, WINS!!!" Right now, your Director has the paper and you don't.
Go get it.
You can tell everyone for this silly notion is some money grubbing bean counter that's been using the internet since the boom in the early 90's or less.
Everyone that's not favoring this is an internet fossil like myself and remembers what the internet was like before our first spammer friends (The Green Card Lawyers). Hold up your 'Spamming the Globe" coffee mugs everyone.
My point is that I pay enough $$ to my ISP, why do I want to pay more $$ to content providers? I would easilly spend an additional $40 on slashdot, ESPN, and Fantasy Sports a month...easilly.
What if you are a job seeker? Are you going to have to pay a penny a page to look for a new job? Yeah...please. In this bad economy, the unemployed would be shelling out insane amounts to find work.
This model doesn't work, and the internet will become what most other cool things is this country have become....
FOR THE OBSENELY RICH & ELITE.
Gates will get his only wet dream come true. It won't be the internet anymore. It will be Gatesworld or Micronet or something equally as disgusting. I can hear Robin Leach now. "The internet. Once for the average Joe on the corner, but nowwwww it's the same crap but costs you 10 times as much."
One cent a page indeed...give me a break.
The world would be a better place if everyone wasn't out to make a buck.
Wait until the economy gets better.
:)
There are too many UNIX Admins out of work, of which, I am one. Let us get back to work first.
In times of crisis, UNIX Admins only think of themselves.
An entry level helpdesk job is the place to start. Certifications are nice, but don't get one to get one. Learn the material. Good UNIX people can spot the textbook Certs a mile away. Most of the time you wont find a person with UNIX certs and an MCSE.
They are usually HPC (High Paid Consultants) or a textbook weenie.