Of course, since all that electrical activity in your intestines will manifest itself by generating gaseous H2 and O2, what will ACTUALLY happen is --
Must pass gas, fill bowl with explosive mixture of H2, O2, CH4 and H2S, two or three M13 viruses are expelled into this mixture, a spark is created, and the next time you are seen, your head is embedded in the bathroom ceiling and your pants are smoldering.
Well... Most people would agree that they couldn't. So therefore the "truth" in this situation is the law of gravity.
Read my comment again. I didn't say "most people"; I said "they", referring to the aforementioned dozen wikipedian involuntary gravity investigators. The comment you made previously that prompted my response stated that "Wikipedia operates on the principle that the "truth" is whatever most people agree it is". But it's not "most people" who determine what the wiki-truth is -- it's the vanishingly-small subset of "most people" who have some sort of interest in what shows up in Wikipedia. (Robert Heinlein described this type of thing as "pravda", a term made notorious by the Soviets' penchant for publishing what they thought the people should consider "truth". I'll borrow this term.) If for whatever reason 12 wikipedians decided that the pravda of gravitation did not necessarily have to agree with observed behavior, they could very well edit the appropriate page and publish whatever pravda they thought would fly (pun intended).
Thus my proposition that such pravda be subjected to impromptu experimental verification.
The spin-mongering noted in the main article is, pure and simple, dueling pravdas... and why should anyone trust Wikipedia if what they see presented as "truth" could be changing on an hourly basis?
If everyone agreed that they could float gently to earth, then they are probaly on say the moon or we've invented anti-gravity devices making this statement true.
Pravda. Don't look at those twelve body-sized craters...
"Wikipedia operates on the principle that the 'truth' is whatever most people agree it is."
Finally, a testable hypothesis!
Let's charter a plane, fly a dozen Wikipedians up to about 12000 ft sans parachutes, and see if they can all agree that they can float gently to earth once they are prematurely deplaned:-)
I envision a land where there are "justices" appointed because they are "just", and "judge" based on the heart behind a simpler code of "justice," rather than human turing machines stripped of the power to truly judge, trying to apply an ugly and endless stream of spaghetti-legislation to human, nonlinear situations[.]
So what is your "just" standard of behavior? Where and how will you draw the line that separates "legal" from "illegal", or "just" from "unjust" if you prefer... otherwise you don't have justice, you have "my opinion, along with this hammer, beats your opinion".
You lost me right when you rung in the "human turing machines" who don't "truly" judge vs. "human, nonlinear situations" argument -- stripped of its aspirant verbiage, that argument is the moral equivalent of being told "no" and subsequently throwing a tantrum. It also shows a lack of understanding of the judge's role in our legal system.
I believe that the code of laws we already have -- in all its flawed glory -- is our best attempt yet to codify "justice". The reason it's become so convoluted and contradictory is that, in response to our attempt to keep people from weaseling out of what "justice" would dictate (by creating rules that approximate what our definition of "justice" is in a given situation), we have promoted the development of smarter weasels.
I don't think it's really fair for you to say something like this unless you live in China and get along fine with the suppression of websites.
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Am I saying I could write a paper off of Wikipedia? No, but when that's all you have to work with, it may be more important than you think.
Anyone else think this could be the Intelligent Design Manifesto?
After all, if all one has is the Book of Genesis from which to teach biology... or, for that matter, videos of "The 700 Club" from which to teach Modern Western Religion...
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When digital recording was first hitting the market (1978 according to Google), one of the first mass-market recordings was an LP released by Telarc of Tchaikovsky's "1812 Overture", featuring a full-sized carillon and cannon blasts. On the digital side, the entire recording had to be potted way down in order to keep the cannon blasts from clipping... and on the analog side -- quite literally on the LP -- you could *see* the extreme low-frequency excursions cut onto the disc. That LP came with a warning sticker urging you to NOT turn your system up during the soft parts, lest you fry your amp and/or speakers when the artillery cuts loose. (This recording is still available on CD and SACD, should you want to check out the recording... although this recording should really be approached as a demo disc, and not an artistic performance.)
This kind of thing is why mastering engineers, especially those cutting LP acetates, love high-pass filters, otherwise you'd end up with eight-minute LP sides that couldn't be played without mistracking by most consumer equipment... and it's still the case in the digital domain, in order to maintain an optimal SNR and a decent playback level.
"I've heard of that CME thing before" -- just wait until this hits the healthcare community, where CME has a vastly different meaning. (In this case, "Continuing Medical Education" -- most US health professionals must earn a minimum number of CME credits, indicating completion of ongoing professional study, in order to maintain board certification and/or state licensure.)
In a previous incarnation, I ran the IT division of a major medical-professional organization; I wonder how much success I would have giving a presentation on malware to the Director of CME and the rest of the senior staff.
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Of course, since all that electrical activity in your intestines will manifest itself by generating gaseous H2 and O2, what will ACTUALLY happen is --
Must pass gas, fill bowl with explosive mixture of H2, O2, CH4 and H2S, two or three M13 viruses are expelled into this mixture, a spark is created, and the next time you are seen, your head is embedded in the bathroom ceiling and your pants are smoldering.
Now THAT sucks.
Yeah? Consider the Roman Catholic Church's demonstrated track record regarding FOSS (free and open-source spirituality).
RMS would shit.
It's rather onomatopoeic, really. It's a term for a 24" wrecking bar whistling through the air, then impacting on the back of someone's skull.
sssssssssSTONGggggggggggggggg
Not in my book, he ain't. Cheney didn't care enough to take the second shot and ensure the kill. That's just irresponsible hunting, in my book.
Read my comment again. I didn't say "most people"; I said "they", referring to the aforementioned dozen wikipedian involuntary gravity investigators. The comment you made previously that prompted my response stated that "Wikipedia operates on the principle that the "truth" is whatever most people agree it is". But it's not "most people" who determine what the wiki-truth is -- it's the vanishingly-small subset of "most people" who have some sort of interest in what shows up in Wikipedia. (Robert Heinlein described this type of thing as "pravda", a term made notorious by the Soviets' penchant for publishing what they thought the people should consider "truth". I'll borrow this term.) If for whatever reason 12 wikipedians decided that the pravda of gravitation did not necessarily have to agree with observed behavior, they could very well edit the appropriate page and publish whatever pravda they thought would fly (pun intended).
Thus my proposition that such pravda be subjected to impromptu experimental verification.
The spin-mongering noted in the main article is, pure and simple, dueling pravdas... and why should anyone trust Wikipedia if what they see presented as "truth" could be changing on an hourly basis?
Pravda. Don't look at those twelve body-sized craters...
"Wikipedia operates on the principle that the 'truth' is whatever most people agree it is."
:-)
Finally, a testable hypothesis!
Let's charter a plane, fly a dozen Wikipedians up to about 12000 ft sans parachutes, and see if they can all agree that they can float gently to earth once they are prematurely deplaned
Well, Chris Squire's gonna have to get busy and write a new song about the smallest known fish.
So what is your "just" standard of behavior? Where and how will you draw the line that separates "legal" from "illegal", or "just" from "unjust" if you prefer... otherwise you don't have justice, you have "my opinion, along with this hammer, beats your opinion".
You lost me right when you rung in the "human turing machines" who don't "truly" judge vs. "human, nonlinear situations" argument -- stripped of its aspirant verbiage, that argument is the moral equivalent of being told "no" and subsequently throwing a tantrum. It also shows a lack of understanding of the judge's role in our legal system.
I believe that the code of laws we already have -- in all its flawed glory -- is our best attempt yet to codify "justice". The reason it's become so convoluted and contradictory is that, in response to our attempt to keep people from weaseling out of what "justice" would dictate (by creating rules that approximate what our definition of "justice" is in a given situation), we have promoted the development of smarter weasels.
Heh. Arlington National Cemetery has a large installed base.
Last place I worked, the coffee already looked and tasted like used machine oil, so I don't think too many people would notice the difference.
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As others have pointed out, the idea is that you can listen your dog working.
I already know what a snoring rottweiler sounds like; I don't want to use up cell minutes listening to it.
As long as we're talking about Floyd, I'd be going for the synthesized dog barks in the middle of "Dogs".
Or...
Dog says: I'm at N43 33.200 W87 57.125
Owner says: WTF?
Yeah, but what if the girlfriend chews through the collar?
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When digital recording was first hitting the market (1978 according to Google), one of the first mass-market recordings was an LP released by Telarc of Tchaikovsky's "1812 Overture", featuring a full-sized carillon and cannon blasts. On the digital side, the entire recording had to be potted way down in order to keep the cannon blasts from clipping... and on the analog side -- quite literally on the LP -- you could *see* the extreme low-frequency excursions cut onto the disc. That LP came with a warning sticker urging you to NOT turn your system up during the soft parts, lest you fry your amp and/or speakers when the artillery cuts loose. (This recording is still available on CD and SACD, should you want to check out the recording... although this recording should really be approached as a demo disc, and not an artistic performance.)
This kind of thing is why mastering engineers, especially those cutting LP acetates, love high-pass filters, otherwise you'd end up with eight-minute LP sides that couldn't be played without mistracking by most consumer equipment... and it's still the case in the digital domain, in order to maintain an optimal SNR and a decent playback level.
"I've heard of that CME thing before" -- just wait until this hits the healthcare community, where CME has a vastly different meaning. (In this case, "Continuing Medical Education" -- most US health professionals must earn a minimum number of CME credits, indicating completion of ongoing professional study, in order to maintain board certification and/or state licensure.)
In a previous incarnation, I ran the IT division of a major medical-professional organization; I wonder how much success I would have giving a presentation on malware to the Director of CME and the rest of the senior staff.