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Olympic Medalist was Spyware King
Remy writes "Seems that Australian gold medal mogulist Dale Begg-Smith is also a spyware entrepreneur. According to a report at Spam Kings, Begg-Smith has supported himself in style as president of a company responsible for generating 20,000,000 pop-ups per day, thanks to drive-by installs of spyware. I know the concept of Olympians being amateurs is outdated, but shouldn't they be barred from competition for this sort of thing?"
...unless spam or spyware is illegal in Australia, or against terms set by the International Olympic Committee (which probably includes stipulations for non-voliation of the laws of competitors' native countries), then no, he shouldn't be barred from competition.
Also, on the subject of "amateurs", you can't be a "professional" in the sport you're competing in. There's nothing to say that someone can't be rich, or be a "professional" in some other field. He shouldn't be barred for "richly supporting himself" either, until installing spyware becomes an Olympic sport.
Hmm. Don't give them any ideas.
Only if they had Spamming as one of the events in the Olympics.
As an Australian, let me be the first to disown him.
Fuck you canada! You can have him back - and take this trashy medal with you on your way out.
So does Anonymous Coward have good karma?
... shouldn't they be barred from competition for this sort of thing?
No. I don't think I want the Olympics in charge of non-sports morality. They should have their asses beat by people that meet them, though.
I don't see why he should be banned , it sure does not help him getting better results at the Olympics.
They could throw it into it's own category, like doping. "He was disqualified for spamming".
is stuck at 99% usage. Maybe he'll freeze mid-jump and crash like the rest of the poor bastards he's helped infect.
...that chair thowing does not become an olympic event *shudders*
... if the mogul course is anywhere near where they do the biathalon. accidents can happen....
tend to do it in more areas than just one.... 20 mill annoyances a day is pretty good
This article reports him the president of "AdsCPM Network." http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport/the-ski-dream- funded-by-a-spam-fortune/2006/02/13/1139679533728. html
Which is mysteriously under construction right now. Handy archive.org has a copy from last month:
http://web.archive.org/web/20050125100919/http://a dscpm.com/
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I know the concept of Olympians being amateurs is outdated, but shouldn't they be barred from competition for this sort of thing?
Amateur atheletes... they don't have to be jobless (even if that job is spamming).
but shouldn't they be barred from competition for this sort of thing?
I feel they should be barred from this planet...
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What does being a Spam-King have to do with being an athelete. How did this even make it to the front page of slashdot. There is nothing to discuss except for the author's complete ignorance.
Even if you win, you're still a scumbag.
Congrats.
good god, i hate him already.
"but shouldn't they be barred from competition for this sort of thing?"
What relevance at all does spamming have to do with the Olympics? Why not just fire and ban spammers from all walks of life, jobs, restaurants, movies, etc, oh wait, it's a little something called freedom. As much as all us hate spam, child porno, junk mail, ads, laywers, etc, we must live them. It's something most people call "society".
The olympics are judging competitors on thier sporting abilities, not thier business ethics. If Dale has broken some law then fair enough, chase him down with lawyers. Disqualifying him from the olympics would be on par with banning anyone who fails a doping test from running thier own business - they are completely unrelated.
You don't even attempt to mask your jealousy. Nerd athletes are the Xmen of the future. Sorry, Napoleon Dynamites of the world.
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If Jesse Owens was allowed to compete in the Berlin Olympics near the height of Nazi power, then I don't think any Olympic committee has authority to enforce a morality unrelated to sporting itself. An Olympic spammer in an online nation is no guiltier than a black Olympian in a racist nation.
(Please don't misinterpret this as saying that Jesse Owens was somehow wrong.)
Mo-gul-ist:
1. A Mongol or Mongolian mogul.
2. The moguls' mogul; a magnate-ist.
3. A professional mogul.
I'm curious if Spamming would fit the mold of a summer or winter sport.
shouldn't they be barred from competition for this sort of thing?
Only if he inhales, injects, or otherwise ingests the spyware. Despite banning it in the 90's, blood tests for spyware remain elusive.
It has also been rumored that spyware use is rampant amongst major-league baseball players.
Twenty million popups a day?
That's it?
Pfft. That's like 100,000 infected machines, tops.
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it showed up in his urine sample. Man, these guys are getting really insidious.
Given that the International Olympic Committe has chosen to hold their games in places that grossly violate human rights like Nazi Germany (1936), the Soviet Union (1980), and mainland China (2008), I don't think they have much moral standing to ban someone for spyware.
So besides drug screening, we should now "virus" (or in this case spyware) screen contestants as well? I AGREE!
i found it odd that he was quite tight-lipped about his thriving IT business that he started when he was young in all the media... i had assumed it was pr0n, but this is worse :/
They were talking about him being some sort of "business mogul" on NBC last night, my wife and I were wondering what business he was in that he was a millionaire in his teens. Now I know - but really, it has nothing to do with the Olympics. It doesn't make such a nice story (after winning his medal he goes home to his little old Lamborghini, how sweet), but unless he was doing something illegal it really shouldn't matter. Millionaire spyware mogul wins gold skiing moguls. Whatever.
(and now for something completely different)
I can't stand NBC's coverage of the olympics. I don't remember ever being exactly thrilled with whoever covers them in a given year, but this year seems especially bad. They do the same old "All the Americans + the top 2-3 other people" for every event, and instead of actually showing us as much of as many events as possible (the reason I want to watch the Olympics), they waste precious hours of their limited coverage with lame feel-good stories that TV reporters seem to love so much. They claimed there would be something like 400 hours of coverage this year, but it seems to be the same stuff three times a day. For the next olympics can we give the rights to someone who actually cares about attempting to cover the Olympics?
Spyware...Australian for advertising.
It might be a reason for the Australian gov't to refuse to fund him, but it'd be stupid for the IOC even to consider it. The Olympics are an athletic competition, if the skier has done something illegal then being in jail should be what deters him from going. Otherwise, it has no relation to their athletic ability. If Australia feels it hurts their country's image then don't put him on the team.
.. he gave up his spyware business to focus on the olympics...
Well at least the olympics are good for reducing spam right ?
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If you are going to kick people out of your country for being dicks, you better get on the boat with him. You guys were awfully happy to let him join the program when he first left Canada and it's not like this 'business' of his is new. He's only a villain now that /. says so? Baaaaaaaaaaaa.
Didn't they change that law to allow those who make money at their sport can now compete in the olympics? a la shawn white?
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Seriously, since when has it been a precondition of The Olympics for an athlete not to be some horrid scumbag? For the most part you only see these people perform, a smile or tears for the camera, stand around on the medal stand while the music plays, perhaps on a cereal box and some lite interviewing on telly. Unless they erupt like Tom Cruise (on behalf of his Co$ beliefs), how are you likely to know any past or present are rotters?
Ok, thanks to the internet and nature of this weasel's business it will come up, and hopefully he'll get flayed in the press (Gold Medal Vermin), though you don't often hear much of these, except the most photogenic who go on to some level of stardom.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
I bet it has 'sponsored by C1Alis! and Vi4gra! By online too satsfy you're lady"
Someone should modify his Olympic medal so that it's got a flap on the front that "pops up" at random intervals and smacks him in the face, blocking his view.
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Die Australian Spamming Scum
A real Canadian would apologise.
People who spam, or work in the adware industry, are still human..
A lot of people seem to have no sense of morality when speaking of spammers... They aren't any worse than anyone else working in the ad industry. They still have rights as human beings
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From the original Slashdot story:
... but since he probably has not been convicted anywhere, I dont think the Olympic games is the correct place to judge him.
"I know the concept of Olympians being amateurs is outdated, but shouldn't they be barred from competition for this sort of thing?"
Well, it is correct that the Olympics no longer require that the contestants be amateurs, but even if they did the Australian in question would still be an amateur. I.e., olympic athletes were always allowed to be professionals in some field but untill few years ago they were not allowed to be pros in the field they are competing in. So the quoted sentence does not make much sence.
A think a much bigger issue is what this guy did may have been a crime in many of the countries he was doing it in. So should a criminal be allowed in the Olympics? I don't know
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I don't see a connection between spyware & the olympics. Why ban him from the Olympics at all? Or why stop at banning him from the Olympics? Why not take away his driving privledges or his passport?
Given that they drug test for recreational narcotics, they are most definitely pushing their morality upon others. (To quote Robin Williams: "The only way [marijuana] a performance-enhancing drug is if there's a big fucking Hershey bar at the end of the run.") If they are going to ban pot, then they might as well ban spam.
TV never mentioned it! It has to be false!
reading an article about a guy that makes money off of popup advertisements and I get two hits on my google popup blocker from the site.
Take away his medal and give him an X-10 camera instead.
Or sign up with LESS97 instead for a $97 credit (I'm not affiliated with that code in any way -- it comes up as the top ad when you search "dreamhost" in Google).
I believe the quote goes:
"Jesus loves you, but everyone else thinks you're an asshole"
It's pretty popular
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Maybe I heard a PR-friendly version of the story, but his parents wouldn't fly him and his brother around the world to compete, so they started a company to make some money. When he was thirteen. I made $3/hour at that age, and I was a high roller compared to my friends who couldn't even get jobs.
So he was making crapware? BFD. With the possible exceptions of the EFFers and some folks at NASA, how many slashdotters haven't ever written code that doesn't pollute the world with wasted CPU cycles? Christ, I just spent the day programming a Dealer Locator. That's not exactly feeding starving children, unless you count my own.
Who exactly gets to set the moral compass for what constitutes 'worthwhile' software? Right now, the net is crawling with identity theives, pr0n magnates, script kiddie extortionists, and worst of all, Marketers.
God forbid someone should judge you based the goals and accomplishments you had by age 21. I suspect the most vociferous flamers are just jealous of his financial and athletic success.
WTF do you think the Americans and Russians were playing at for the last 20 years? In ancient history, they were professionals too, the amateur thing was a modern class inspired blip.
Oh, except boxing... of course.
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I know the concept of Olympians being amateurs is outdated, but shouldn't they be barred from competition for this sort of thing?
Does this mean the U.S. Basketball team now needs to give back its medals?
Right after I blow his kneecaps off.
...shouldn't they be barred from competition for this sort of thing?"
No, let's just rip his leg off, beat him to death with the bloody end of it, and call it even.
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You need USA, CNBC, and MSNBC to get the full 400 hours.
You're just getting the highly produced, packaged version.
It's a little high on artificial drama and sappy anecdotes, but I think they do a pretty good job of production considering they have less than a day to put together every night's show. Consider the Tour de France, where, until OLN was broadcasting it daily (thanks Lance) you had to watch the distilled summary every sunday. They had no problem getting the viewer up to speed and making it dramatic (if it wasn't). With the Olympics, they have maybe 14-16 hours to select and edit the footage (granted their melodramatic stories are long since prepared) and link it all up for a "live" broadcast. It's no small feat.
That being said, I do think they should look beyond 'just the Americans' more, but with my tiny little bit of TV production experience, I can appreciate how difficult it must be to put together a show under those conditions for 3 weeks.
According to this article, http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://www.theglo beandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060216.wxbrunt 16/BNStory/Sports/home, he was quoted as "We don't do pop-ups". Glad he disassociated himself from us Canucks
Always check your links!
in the real Olympics, Alcibiades was allowed to compete (or at least the teams he hired were). Now he was a real piece of work.
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i looked at a mirror of the site, at the bottom of the mirror there was a copyright 2002 VALUEAD.COM, VALUEAD.COM is still up now, so are they linked or not?
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He should be requied to participate in that new Olympic event, the 4 way Tractor pull.
1 spammer, 4 tractors, spammer in the middle, each tractor pulls the spammer in a different direction.
Driver who ends up with the smallest piece of spammer wins!
I would have tried the exact same thing.
as it was, I was 13 in 1977, so my spyware product didn't have a market..or means..or code. I did go door to door and sell my services as a car washer.
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Egg him!
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I would watch, AFTER telling all the participating nations how he got into the competition.
I wonder if someone would voluntarily run that extra lap to have that bullet to waste on... I would!
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Granted, they didn't have doping issues to contend with; yet I suspect that they enjoyed some number of performances by athletes with (even by the standards of the day) maculate pasts.
Spyware and spam are VERY tough markets. I don't understand see why any company would pick these as methods of marketing. Doing so is effectively making your target market people who are pissed off at you to begin with.
I realise it's cheaper than something like highly targetted Google ads, but targetted marketing attracts people who are actually HAPPY they found your product, and INTERESTED in it. It's an easier and more effective method of marketing. It costs more, but the visitor-to-customer conversion rate is probably so much higher that it's worth ditching spam.
I can't imagine the conversion rate for spam being more than 1 in 10,000 on average. First the piece of spam has to get past (for the vast majority of addresses) GMail/Hotmail's spam filters (seems about a 1 in 50 chance for my GMail account), or some other spam filter that is in place. Supposing it does get into the view of someone's inbox, most can be recognised as spam before they're opened, so maybe a 1-in-10 chance of being opened. If it gets opened, for every person that's actually interested, there must be at least others 1000 who wish they never received it.
(1/50)*(1/10)*(1/1,000) = 1/500,000
One customer for every half a million pieces of spam really isn't that great. I wonder if the companies that use spam as a marketing tool are also being scammed by spam-sending companies. It's possible that spam having any sort of good return on investment is a myth.
The evaluation of an action as 'practical' . . . depends on what it is that one wishes to practice.
As a Jamaican,
Fuck you
For his next downhill run, some of the moguls should be pop-ups: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouncing_betty
"but shouldn't they be barred from competition for this sort of thing?"
Yes... And beaten severely too!
(I'll help!)
"...Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and spam; egg bacon and spam; egg bacon sausage and spam..."
the Olympics should have a "morals" clause for competitors - no convicted felons, spammers, malware authors, domain squatters, or history of any other anti-social activities which indicate moral turpitude.
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I could understand +5: Funny, but Informative?!
If only the mods would give me some of their weed...
I can't figure it out, why do people watch other people do sports or play games? The Olympics don't make sense twice: first, because watching other people do sports makes no sense and the second time, because it is not even real sports, it is all about what country's chemistry/biology fields are better developped.
You can't handle the truth.
I wonder what I can throw out the window this time.
You can keep your Canadian spyware mogul.
We'll keep our Australian moguls skiing champion.
(Oh yeah. I know he passed his drug test, but if he had been a drug cheat, he'd have been a Canadian drug cheat as well.)
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The doctor said I'm not supposed to get Slashdot in it!
So I guess every proud Australian is also a zombie? ..on reflection, I guess that's probably why they're proud.
I'm 16 and I like looking at pictures of the opposite sex of my own age.
Does this mean I like CP?
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Just goes to show, being a slimey bastard really pays off...
You can't turn this one down... O l y m p i c G o l d and all other medals. Cleck here now!!! Your wont be disapointed. Bugger, it's difficult writing spam email. Wazza
Advertising-infested Olympic Games go well with advertising-infested PCs, and the "olympic movement" is a commercial sham. It's not surprising that the same unscrupulous people participate and win in both.
If you want to help international understanding, participating in commercialized mega-events is not the way to do it. Instead, go travel on your own and get to know people by talking to them. And if you like sports, go running, skiing, or play soccer with the friends you make that way.
We've already apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions.
Endless arguments over trivial contradictions in books written by ignorant savages to explain thunder in the dark.
I know they don't have to be jobless, but I'd like to know if he was supplementing his ill-gotten spam and spyware gains with government handouts too. In Canada, an olympic athlete can get a substantial amount of money from the government for living costs and training every year, I wonder if Australia has such a program, and if he did take advantage, I wonder if he would have told them about his business.
You mean like those false result pages with a lot of advertising that google is always trying to smack down?
Pop-up blockers? You mean pop-up protection, FROM THEIR POPUPS.
Send him an "encoraging" email on the right hand side of this page. He might be also interested in certian blue "performance" enhancing pills.
Atomic warheads need neither cannon fodder nor fighter Jets.
Now bend over and take it like a good little Frenchie.
You're all girls after all, even the men. ESPECIALLY the men.
Although you've played to the conspiracy theorists who'd love to believe the myth that the high paid professional athletes really are a bunch of overpaid floaters who couldn't care less about the olympics, the truth is USA's tie with Latvia early on in olympic rounds was more or less predictable and quite common under such circumstances.
The only two teams who are made up of 100% NHL players are Canada and Team USA. These two teams played for the gold 4 years ago in Nagano after handily beating all other strong hockey playing countries, which include Sweden, Finland, Russia and the Czech Republic. If you'll go back and look at the early rounds of each of the past several olympic games, the NHL-based clubs tend to do poorly early on and from time to time get beaten by teams made up of amateurs. Why is this?
1. The players are often travelling to the other side of the world 24-48 hours before they are supposed to step on the ice and play. That's hardly enough time to compensate for jet lag. (Obviously, this was not an excuse at Salt Lake in '02...)
2. NHL seasons are in full swing up to about 3 days before the first game at the olympics, meaning that the olympic teams made up of NHL players have little more than a single practice together in 4 months leading up to the games. That's not enough time to gel together as a cohesive team unit.
3. Teams that win Stanley cups aren't made up solely of a group of all-star players. On championship teams, each player has spent a good deal of time learning to fill a particular role on the squad so that the team plays better as a whole than would be expected based on the individual talent of each player alone. These NHL "dream team" squads often lack an appropriate mix of key role players.
4. Early games at the olympics are mostly meaningless. Given the circumstances (first competitive game together as a team) any professional coach will tell you it's more productive to spend time getting to understand each other's playing style rather than focusing on annihilating the competition as if it was the gold medal game.
5. "...on any given Sunday". Hockey, basketball and baseball are sports in which a few random lucky bounces can dramatically change the outcome of a single game. It's quite common (maybe 15-20% of the time?) that a team is outplayed, yet wins a game because a ref call goes one way or the other, or the ball/puck takes a lucky bounce. To compensate for this randomness, MLB, NBA and the NHL have instituted best-of-5 and best-of-7 series to reduce (but never quite eliminate) the chances that the weaker team will advance. The Olympics is single-game elimination in the semi-final rounds and beyond, meaning even a significantly weaker team has a decent chance of advancing past a strong competitor.
6. Hot goalies. More than any player on the ice, goalies have a huge impact on a team's overall results. A hot goalie can almost single-handedly win a game for a team that is otherwise badly outplayed. Witness the Czech Republic's beating of Canada at the 1998 Olympics for evidence of this. Stanley Cup champions almost without exception have very strong goaltending. It's not uncommon for a really hot goalie to turn aside 40-50 shots a game when his team fails him against a stronger opponent. These games can have surprisingly positive outcomes for otherwise badly outplayed teams if the goalie plays really well.
With that said, go Canada!
my visual idea of a supreme spam-meister was always closer to some ogre like Ron Jeremy or something.
not baned but drawn and quarted and there head inpailed and put on display at the city gates
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The deck is not stacked in the US favor because there are NHL players on practically EVERY TEAM in the Olympics why don't you head on over to http://www.nbcolympics.com/ and look up the hockey section and see for yourselves, or better yet, take your hands out of your pants, find the remote and change the channel from G4 to NBC for a bit. If you ignorant fools are going to spew your self righteousness, you might want to bone up on your facts before posting
The age reports in the article "...the companies that he and brother Jason Begg-Smith are involved with are some of the most annoying aspects of the web"
and then "Web searches reveal that AdsCPM Network has been a supplier of pop-under and -up advertising to websites."
Ahhh did anyone else notice their google toolbar trying to block The Age's most annoying pop-up ads when they went there? Sheezzzz
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Then how will figure skaters take part in countries where metrosexuality is illegal?
If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
I know the concept of Olympians being amateurs is outdated, but shouldn't they be barred from competition for this sort of thing?"
Wtf?, so the guy supported himself via spyware/adware/whateverware, that says more about how olympians are treated then about the guy himself, why should he be barred from competition just because he found a way to keep his head above water? Should you be barred from watching the olympics because you are a slashdotter?, think about it..
In a word - no. We don't want to mix up athletics with other matters. If he violated a law, arrest him of course if that is appropriate for that crime. He should be treated the same as any other person. If we start getting into making judgements on who can compete and who can't because of their actions, then we could find ourselves on that slippery slope. Let those that are in the athletic field deal with winning at their sport (unless it is un-sportsman like conduct) and those in the legal field deal with his conduct and determine if something should be done. Since he is so high profile, I'm willing to say that his case should be considered and acted upon quickly. Get the tar hot and the feathers ready just in case.
I guess this is /. where a lot (read: not all) of readers aren't into sports, but just because the guy does something you (and most others) don't like for a living (and apparently has a very good standard of life going for himself), if it has nothing to do with the sport I don't see why he should be banned. I always thought that banning "pro" athletes from the Olympics was sorta stupid too. Put too many blocks in place, and all of a sudden the Olympics have no relevance as sports records, since it's not really a level playing ground.
Let me put it this way. If spammers, politicians, lawyers, **AA and pro-athletes were all banned from the Olypics, it really takes away from winning the gold medal. Why? Because no one's really certain that you're really No. 1 in the category. You're No. 1 in your category according to how your sand box is defined. Once that happens, I don't see the point in even watching any of the games.
On a tangent, the pro-athlete part was pretty damn fucked up in the first place. Commercialism is no good, thus we ban the pros? Then what the hell is Kodak, McDonalds, Coca-Cola and all the half a million other official sponsor logos doing on just about every single freakin' item in view of the camera? To me it was simply the IOC saying "WE make the money, NOT the athletes."
Now that professionals are allowed to participate, the Olypmics really have gained a lot. Look at Shaun White (men's snowboarding, half pipe). He didn't even participate in the World Cup, so a lot of people thought they had a chance at the medal. Then Shaun, and a bunch of other pro riders show up and bump up the hurdle half a mile. And the world gets to see what the best of the best do best.
Back on track, so if we ban spammers from the Olympics, then what? Medalist: "I won the gold medal!" Observer: "Yeah, but that spam-king down under is still better than you." Boooooooring.
I put in a DVD and watched a movie. Sounds like most of the U.S. is watching other channels. I heard a report on NPR that said the coverage of the olympics came in 5th. Not even a bronze. We'd have to add two more medals...tin for 4th place, cardboard for 5th.
Quite frankly, the lack of coverage of the Olympics is one of the reasons I usually don't even bother watching anymore. Quite often, you can only get small fractions of the sports and the timeshifting involved is horrendous. Do you remember the brouhaha a few years ago where the BBC was streaming live coverage and American broadcast companies forced them to not transmit the data to IP addresses located in the US for fear that people might prefer watching the games as they happen rather than hours afterwards with commercials breaking the events up?
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While his spyware company and his actions are deplorable, how is that in any way related to his Olympic status and why should it in any way affect his ability to compete? I could understand if he were running for political office or trying to start an anti-virus or anti-spyware firm, but the Olympics? We're not talking steroid use or anything that could affect his athletic ability.
Why do people always want to push political agendas onto unrelated things? Why do people always want _their_ ethical or moral compass to be imposed on everyone else? Oh, you distributed spyware, you can't be in the Olympics . . . oh, you smoked pot, you can't be a politition . . . blah
Slashdot is becoming ludicrous. Pointless. Lame. Quite a stretch, skiing down moguls and running a business. Oooh, a spyware king, oooh, how can they award gold for spyware kings? Well, why wasn't Cowboy Neal out there taking the gold away from him? That would be because the guy can actually ski. And the medal was for. Skiiing.
Didn't give a toledo about "professional" or not, they were in it to win, to prove themselves the best and to money.
;) Just don't allow any Roman Emperors to participate and they will be fine ;)
The fake elitist olympics from the late 19th century are simply no more than a poor attempt to push down the immoral victorian class divide structure of the day (workers who's job would naturally make them better suited to certain events were not allowed to join as they may have upset the rich namby pampy inbred nobles).
Time to return to the real olympiads I say, in it for the money and the glory
Well, if they didn't ask my permission, it's not my problem. Ignorance is no excuse, just ask a police officer when he pulls you over for doing 35 in a school zone. Negligence is no excuse: "well I didn't think about it that way." All in all, they still owe me for resource utilization and use of my proprietary usage information. I never offered to let them know what I like to do. If they want to market to me at my expense, then they are truely dellusional. I would call it theft of digital good and services as well as privacy violation and it should be punnishable as such. I can't exactly walk into a 7-11 and eat a snickerbar without them looking and not expect any problems now can I? Charges should be as follows for renting allocational units per month with a government communications surcharge to lower my phone bill for me: 1.)Processor utilization and impact fee 2.)Memory utilization and impact fee 3.)Disk space utilization and impact fee (including the email space for the spam I aquired due to thier sharing of my personal information) 4.)Network bandwidth consumption (In part to all those pop-ups he caused) 5.)Personal Information Gratuity of 60% (He should pay me a percentage of what he makes for my information) 6.)Personal impact fee (Slower performance accross the board) Time is money and it took me a lot of time to aquire all that information for myself. Why should they get it for free? Fines should be as follows: 1.)System utilization interference and interuption fines 2.)Privacy act violations (where applicable by agreed contract. Applicable especially if a contract does not exist) 3.)Security Negligence by endangerment 4.)Security Negligence with damages 5.)Criminal intent for misuse of networks, systems and information We don't have to spy on them, just regulate them out of business..... If they don't play nice that is..... Just one question..... should I send the first bill to Dale Begg-Smith? He's successfull, so he can afford it.....
fucking lol
-rei