Yeah...plus, from what I understand, you could still install the game into the game explorer, and the parent would have to tell the game explorer to "ignore unrated titles" in which case the game would only disappear from the game explorer. You could still access the game though. To me, it's no big deal and only another way to point out another useless "feature" of Vista and shoot it down as being unfair to the little guy.
Allright c'mon. Don't despair for the US. There's stupid people everywhere. People in Spain let themselves be involved in a stampede of bulls. Surely, that's way dumber than a little water.
Not to mention your defense should include the fact that he actually said....
She wasn't a doctor, she didn't know the huge health risk involved with consuming mass quantities of water in a short period of time. Drinking water seems pretty safe to most people.
Um...She trusted a wacky morning show with her health and lost. Sorry, more room for me. It's not like a tree fell on her. It wasn't an accident. She drank tons of water and didn't pee. Would we be having this discussion if she died from a burst bladder? I think not.
Madden doesn't have to get better each year at this point, most of us would settle for it NOT REGRESSING. They're not even adding new stuff, they're removing features. I'd settle for it even staying the same with new names instead of removing things like coop play, and fantasy drafts, and everything else that they ripped out of the last two versions. That is why people are angry.
What are you talking about? Fantasy drafts are still there. PTFG.
Sure but, cmon, how much better can Madden really get without smell-o-vision? Seriously, I like the EA games, and have noticed less improvement over the years, but all in all, they're still great games that are fun to play. I even like their stupid "Big" games and wish they'd release them on PC.
It's not disgusting? I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. My son is not so bad off that he needs constant care. He does need some services (physical therapy, etc.) which the county MRDD board actually helps cover (wow!) but he has heart issues and has had open heart surgery once. That was over a $100,000 expense (which is also ridiculous, imho) so we got our money's worth that year and frankly are just paying that expense back each month in our premiums and hoping he never needs another surgery.
No way! I have BCBS PPO and my company covers a chunk of it and I still pay $800/month for my family, and we're all healthy. (thank god) I think that $1000/month for someone who is obviously young and has already cost the insurance company well over $100,000 is a bargin. If you were paying that off over 20 years as a mortgage, you'd be paying about the same. Plus, and I hope it doesn't happen, but the insurer has to assume that that's not going to be the end of the cost. Not to mention the chances of you or your wife contracting a disease or some other accident that might render one of you in the hospital.
I would count my blessings if I were you. Doesn't sound so bad.
It's funny, people (I'm not saying you) have no problem spending $1000 a month on car payments, but when it's for health insurance, it's a huge problem. Face it, health care costs money, it's a fact of life. Sure the insurance companies fuck the doctors with malpractice insurance, so the doctors have to fuck them right back on costs and the drug companies suck but still, it's not ALL that disgusting.
I think everyone is missing the point here. The problem really isn't spam. It's the fact that there are botnets out there that are 70,000 strong. Thank god they're only sending enlarge-your-penis emails. Instead of spending energy trying to stop the symptom, let's try and stop the disease. Forget the email, let's figure out a way to stop the infections in the first place. Then there's the issue of cutting off the funding. Why not try and stop the funders of spam. I think that BlueSecurity had it completely right. Piss off the people paying the spammers, and you stop the spam. Nobody's going to send spam for fun, and if they did, maybe we wouldn't mind reading them so much.
1. Stop the infections
2. Stop the funders of spam.
3. Profit!
It's a simple as that.
I hate how people miss the point on this spam stuff. The spam is only the symptom.
But, that's hardly an argument worth paying any attention from a practical/logical point of view.
Isn't it though? Is the ability to easily read code a bonus for the language or not? I think it is. The more readable, the more easily written and refactored. I guess if you never have to look at anyone else's code and nobody has to look at yours then it doesn't matter. I HATE to deal with OPP (yeah, I went there) simply because there are so many ways to do the same thing. I'd much rather look at bad PHP than bad PERL.
I still think Perl is the best choice for small to medium web projects. The comprehensiveness of the CPAN library is unparalleled and with mod_perl you get real integration with the Apache server.
I've been programming for nearly as long as you in the same languages and I disagree with you a bit. For me, working with PERL has always been like sorting the the explosion at the punctuation factory.(yeah, that old gag) It's really ugly to look at and work with and that makes a difference to me, enough so that I try and avoid it when I can.
I agree with your point about novice programmers, and I feel like that is why so many people give PHP a bad rap. Simply because it's so easy to use, anyone can use it. There is MUCH more bad PHP out there than bad perl because a monkey can learn PHP fairly quickly, while PERL takes a bit more practice. That's why I expect to see this same problem pop up with RUBY soon. It's so easy, there's gonna be a shit-ton of lousy code out there.
Whatever. I don't care what they do. Until my fiance moved in I had bunny ears that picked up PBS, CBS, ABC, NBC, and Fox, and the only things I ever watched anyway were Nova, the local news, and Simpson reruns. I don't care what they do. Hopefully more people will wise up and stop plugging into the boob tube every night and send their stupid little marketing schemes into a death spiral with or without DVR.
Right! And instead, let's hope people use their time in another, equally wasteful and mindless, manor. Slashdot comes to mind, or perhaps the latest computer game...no marketing schemes there. No way!
It's weird that the higher than thou croud always acts like TV is such a monster while they wile away their hours just as mindlessly. Funny that way...
I have to say that the runner-up is so much better it hurts. The problem with slashdot is all the noise. The collapseable sections would be a much welcome improvement. Don't see why they didn't go with the runner up.
Just my 2cents
"Conspiracy has been defined in America as an agreement of two or more people to commit a crime, or to accomplish a legal end through illegal actions. For example, planning to rob a bank (an illegal act) in order to raise money for charity (a legal end) remains a criminal conspiracy because the parties agreed to use illegal means to accomplish the end goal. The commonly used phrase: "The ends don't justify the means" reflects the same legal reasoning."
Google, can upon notice put in filters. I would understand your complaint if nobody reported this probem with this particular company and then the company sues, but google said they couldnt filter the content when they can. They f'd up. Personally, I think fixing it and paying for ServerChecks legal fee's should be enough.
I think you're way off here. For example, what if I have written an article on "cracking software" and called it "crackz". If google filters that type stuff, my article would be included in the filter. When you start filtering, or in this case not suggesting, results based on search terms, then you run the risk of leaving out valid result sets.
You're basically talking about conspiracy, which in most cases requires intent on behalf of both parties. How can it be illegal to automatically suggest search terms based on user input? Go search google for how to commit the perfect murder you'll get detailed results on how to do it. Does that mean google needs to install a murder filter? Then what?
I think more to the point though is the one thing that people don't seem to understand about Google. They are a SEARCH engine. They don't produce the content, only make it easier to find. They shouldn't be held responsible for other peoples' criminal acts. You can learn how to make a bomb through Google as well, and you should be able to. That is one of the side effects of having the entire span of human knowledge at your fingertips. I just don't understand why companies, individuals and interest groups keep going after the messenger.
just when i thought american politicians couln't sink any lower... guys, how on earth can you put up with such a bunch of lying scheming bastards controlling your country? using 'terrorism' as an excuse to do how they please makes me absolutely sick to the bone
But...but...but...if you download Metalica, the terrorists win. Doesn't everyone know that?
No user should get a prompt on your server if you can avoid it.
I think that's the real point here. Nobody should need a prompt except the admin(s). I can't think of one reason that someone whould need a prompt, root or otherwise. Ok, I can think of a few but, the discussion shouldn't really be about root access but more about shell access in general. I suppose it all depends on what kind of machine we're talking about but with servers, db - file - etc, noboby ought to need a shell anyways.
That's just it - people don't need MS Office. I've just installed the latest version of open office on a laptop we got last week. It's the dogs bollocks! (That UK speak for bloody excellent) Why pay over £250 for a version of MS office that you can only install on one machine, when you can get OO for free and install on as many machines as you wont, and it available for Windows and Linux?
Don't be foolish. Of course people need MS Office. Do you have any idea of the amount of people that depend on the enterprise features of MS Office? Yeah, OO is great if you're just some user, but geez, try to work with OO when your company is running MS office and you need Exchange features or any of the other features that MS office has to offer in the enterprise sphere. OO is great but yo...take it easy.
The alternative - Apple makes it trivial and easy to rip CDs to your iPod and then plug into a friends' computer to transfer 'em back - would result in lawsuits and no iTMS. There wouldn't be a case where you could do that and the RIAA would shrug and say "oh, I guess that's fine."
Or the other alternative, Apple could say "Fuck me? No Fuck you!" and call the stupid bluff. I mean, do we not think that the RIAA and/or their artists and production companies are seeing chang from the iTMS which they wouldn't see without it. To me, the consumer calls the ball and in this case the iTMS is the consumer. Especially, now that it's an actual revenue stream for everyone involved. Why couldn't apple say "You know what, we really want the iPod to be more flexable so we're taking all that bullshit off to make it easier for OUR customers"
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Yeah...plus, from what I understand, you could still install the game into the game explorer, and the parent would have to tell the game explorer to "ignore unrated titles" in which case the game would only disappear from the game explorer. You could still access the game though. To me, it's no big deal and only another way to point out another useless "feature" of Vista and shoot it down as being unfair to the little guy.
I despair for the US, I really do.
Allright c'mon. Don't despair for the US. There's stupid people everywhere. People in Spain let themselves be involved in a stampede of bulls. Surely, that's way dumber than a little water.
Not to mention your defense should include the fact that he actually said....
She wasn't a doctor, she didn't know the huge health risk involved with consuming mass quantities of water in a short period of time. Drinking water seems pretty safe to most people.
Um...She trusted a wacky morning show with her health and lost. Sorry, more room for me. It's not like a tree fell on her. It wasn't an accident. She drank tons of water and didn't pee. Would we be having this discussion if she died from a burst bladder? I think not.
I'll just assume you meant Godwin's Law.
An advertizing company with a search engine [and other tools] to drive traffic to its advertizements.
That's like saying that NBC or CBS is an advertizing (yikes...alwayz thought there waz an s in there) company with a camera.
Madden doesn't have to get better each year at this point, most of us would settle for it NOT REGRESSING. They're not even adding new stuff, they're removing features. I'd settle for it even staying the same with new names instead of removing things like coop play, and fantasy drafts, and everything else that they ripped out of the last two versions. That is why people are angry.
What are you talking about? Fantasy drafts are still there. PTFG.
Sure but, cmon, how much better can Madden really get without smell-o-vision? Seriously, I like the EA games, and have noticed less improvement over the years, but all in all, they're still great games that are fun to play. I even like their stupid "Big" games and wish they'd release them on PC.
It's not disgusting? I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. My son is not so bad off that he needs constant care. He does need some services (physical therapy, etc.) which the county MRDD board actually helps cover (wow!) but he has heart issues and has had open heart surgery once. That was over a $100,000 expense (which is also ridiculous, imho) so we got our money's worth that year and frankly are just paying that expense back each month in our premiums and hoping he never needs another surgery.
No way! I have BCBS PPO and my company covers a chunk of it and I still pay $800/month for my family, and we're all healthy. (thank god) I think that $1000/month for someone who is obviously young and has already cost the insurance company well over $100,000 is a bargin. If you were paying that off over 20 years as a mortgage, you'd be paying about the same. Plus, and I hope it doesn't happen, but the insurer has to assume that that's not going to be the end of the cost. Not to mention the chances of you or your wife contracting a disease or some other accident that might render one of you in the hospital.
I would count my blessings if I were you. Doesn't sound so bad.
It's funny, people (I'm not saying you) have no problem spending $1000 a month on car payments, but when it's for health insurance, it's a huge problem. Face it, health care costs money, it's a fact of life. Sure the insurance companies fuck the doctors with malpractice insurance, so the doctors have to fuck them right back on costs and the drug companies suck but still, it's not ALL that disgusting.
I think everyone is missing the point here. The problem really isn't spam. It's the fact that there are botnets out there that are 70,000 strong. Thank god they're only sending enlarge-your-penis emails. Instead of spending energy trying to stop the symptom, let's try and stop the disease. Forget the email, let's figure out a way to stop the infections in the first place. Then there's the issue of cutting off the funding. Why not try and stop the funders of spam. I think that BlueSecurity had it completely right. Piss off the people paying the spammers, and you stop the spam. Nobody's going to send spam for fun, and if they did, maybe we wouldn't mind reading them so much. 1. Stop the infections 2. Stop the funders of spam. 3. Profit! It's a simple as that. I hate how people miss the point on this spam stuff. The spam is only the symptom.
"With USA abandoning the Hubble and ISS, theres not much to be done in space."
What are you talking about? What about the James Webb Telescope. We ought to be able to see the start of the universe with that sucker.
Wow, Imagine a ... ah nevermind.
But, that's hardly an argument worth paying any attention from a practical/logical point of view.
Isn't it though? Is the ability to easily read code a bonus for the language or not? I think it is. The more readable, the more easily written and refactored. I guess if you never have to look at anyone else's code and nobody has to look at yours then it doesn't matter. I HATE to deal with OPP (yeah, I went there) simply because there are so many ways to do the same thing. I'd much rather look at bad PHP than bad PERL.
This make me miss binary day. I had a friend who used to call every "binary day" and be a well-wisher.
01/01/01
01/10/01
Etc. You get the idea.
I still think Perl is the best choice for small to medium web projects. The comprehensiveness of the CPAN library is unparalleled and with mod_perl you get real integration with the Apache server.
I've been programming for nearly as long as you in the same languages and I disagree with you a bit. For me, working with PERL has always been like sorting the the explosion at the punctuation factory.(yeah, that old gag) It's really ugly to look at and work with and that makes a difference to me, enough so that I try and avoid it when I can.
I agree with your point about novice programmers, and I feel like that is why so many people give PHP a bad rap. Simply because it's so easy to use, anyone can use it. There is MUCH more bad PHP out there than bad perl because a monkey can learn PHP fairly quickly, while PERL takes a bit more practice. That's why I expect to see this same problem pop up with RUBY soon. It's so easy, there's gonna be a shit-ton of lousy code out there.
Whatever. I don't care what they do. Until my fiance moved in I had bunny ears that picked up PBS, CBS, ABC, NBC, and Fox, and the only things I ever watched anyway were Nova, the local news, and Simpson reruns. I don't care what they do. Hopefully more people will wise up and stop plugging into the boob tube every night and send their stupid little marketing schemes into a death spiral with or without DVR.
Right! And instead, let's hope people use their time in another, equally wasteful and mindless, manor. Slashdot comes to mind, or perhaps the latest computer game...no marketing schemes there. No way!
It's weird that the higher than thou croud always acts like TV is such a monster while they wile away their hours just as mindlessly. Funny that way...
I have to say that the runner-up is so much better it hurts. The problem with slashdot is all the noise. The collapseable sections would be a much welcome improvement. Don't see why they didn't go with the runner up. Just my 2cents
Not "a conspiracy" but "conspiracy" as in
"Conspiracy has been defined in America as an agreement of two or more people to commit a crime, or to accomplish a legal end through illegal actions. For example, planning to rob a bank (an illegal act) in order to raise money for charity (a legal end) remains a criminal conspiracy because the parties agreed to use illegal means to accomplish the end goal. The commonly used phrase: "The ends don't justify the means" reflects the same legal reasoning."
Google, can upon notice put in filters. I would understand your complaint if nobody reported this probem with this particular company and then the company sues, but google said they couldnt filter the content when they can. They f'd up. Personally, I think fixing it and paying for ServerChecks legal fee's should be enough.
I think you're way off here. For example, what if I have written an article on "cracking software" and called it "crackz". If google filters that type stuff, my article would be included in the filter. When you start filtering, or in this case not suggesting, results based on search terms, then you run the risk of leaving out valid result sets.
You're basically talking about conspiracy, which in most cases requires intent on behalf of both parties. How can it be illegal to automatically suggest search terms based on user input? Go search google for how to commit the perfect murder you'll get detailed results on how to do it. Does that mean google needs to install a murder filter? Then what?
I think more to the point though is the one thing that people don't seem to understand about Google. They are a SEARCH engine. They don't produce the content, only make it easier to find. They shouldn't be held responsible for other peoples' criminal acts. You can learn how to make a bomb through Google as well, and you should be able to. That is one of the side effects of having the entire span of human knowledge at your fingertips. I just don't understand why companies, individuals and interest groups keep going after the messenger.
There's probably less then one hundred companies who could've withstood that sort of ddosing. Blue Security wasn't one of them.
Neither was Tucow.
just when i thought american politicians couln't sink any lower... guys, how on earth can you put up with such a bunch of lying scheming bastards controlling your country? using 'terrorism' as an excuse to do how they please makes me absolutely sick to the bone
But...but...but...if you download Metalica, the terrorists win. Doesn't everyone know that?
No user should get a prompt on your server if you can avoid it.
I think that's the real point here. Nobody should need a prompt except the admin(s). I can't think of one reason that someone whould need a prompt, root or otherwise. Ok, I can think of a few but, the discussion shouldn't really be about root access but more about shell access in general. I suppose it all depends on what kind of machine we're talking about but with servers, db - file - etc, noboby ought to need a shell anyways.
That's just it - people don't need MS Office. I've just installed the latest version of open office on a laptop we got last week. It's the dogs bollocks! (That UK speak for bloody excellent) Why pay over £250 for a version of MS office that you can only install on one machine, when you can get OO for free and install on as many machines as you wont, and it available for Windows and Linux?
Don't be foolish. Of course people need MS Office. Do you have any idea of the amount of people that depend on the enterprise features of MS Office? Yeah, OO is great if you're just some user, but geez, try to work with OO when your company is running MS office and you need Exchange features or any of the other features that MS office has to offer in the enterprise sphere. OO is great but yo...take it easy.
The alternative - Apple makes it trivial and easy to rip CDs to your iPod and then plug into a friends' computer to transfer 'em back - would result in lawsuits and no iTMS. There wouldn't be a case where you could do that and the RIAA would shrug and say "oh, I guess that's fine."
Or the other alternative, Apple could say "Fuck me? No Fuck you!" and call the stupid bluff. I mean, do we not think that the RIAA and/or their artists and production companies are seeing chang from the iTMS which they wouldn't see without it. To me, the consumer calls the ball and in this case the iTMS is the consumer. Especially, now that it's an actual revenue stream for everyone involved. Why couldn't apple say "You know what, we really want the iPod to be more flexable so we're taking all that bullshit off to make it easier for OUR customers"
Be nice; he invented the medium you're using to flame him... ;)
Doesn't make Henry Ford a good driver...