I dont like splitting things up either. Most of your 'prejudiced' thoughts on the matter do not hold much truth... however I respect you for saying that you haven't used it since Mozilla 1.0.
At work (web development & financial software development) and at home I use the Mozilla Suite. The only time I will install FireFox is if I dont need email.
A 12 MB download is not bloated, even for me on a 52kbps connection. Installing IRC is optional on Windows and Linux.
Here are some of my reasons for sticking with the Mozilla Suite:
I like being able to alter my program preferences (for the browser and email client from the one screen)
I also believe that the browser can be configured with more options via Edit->Preferences. A lot of these options disappear in FireFox, and about:config is not the most ideal way of doing things.
Thunderbird is a news reader as well. That doesn't make it bloated.
There are also many extensions for Mozilla - Mozilla extensions came before FireFox extensions. The popular ones were 'ported' to FireFox.
Installing and choosing a theme changes the way that both the browser and email client look.
It is fast to load, and surf with. Even on a PIII 450 MHz box.
The integration between browser and email client is second to none. They are the same program after all.
Assumption: It's memory efficient. Shared memory for displaying the interface, rendering HTML, etc.
Sidebars are easier to install in the Mozilla Suite. No need to add to bookmarks first.
I was a little annoyed when Fedora Core 3 came with FireFox/Thunderbird instead of the Mozilla Suite. But it was easy enough to find RPMs.
If development of the Mozilla Suite stops - I will switch. Hopefully FF and TB will be more mature by then. I have nothing against FF or TB. At work in the past two weeks I have converted the accountant and the head tester to FF.
Speaking of knobs, I'm replying to one right now:p I'm 26 - even I remember the days when remote controls didn't exist.
When friends/significant other are over it is not polite to get up, go to the media cabinet and block people's view of the screen.
During a party it may be easier to skip to the next song or alter the volume from the other side of the room, especially if it is crowded.
Using remote controls isn't making people that fat... it's spending hours every day immobile on the couch that does it, whilst eating snack foods and drinking liquids with a high fat/sugar content.
Remote controls are a convenience... I have 4 (TV, VCR, DVD, Stereo) but personally I do not think that warrants a programmable remote.
I have installed and run Fedora Core 3 (and before that FC2) in VMware Workstation 4.5.2-8848 under WinXP (urgh) at work. I have had no problems at all. When I compiled 2.6.9 in FC2, the performance increase inside VMware was very noticeable.
If you want my VM files (minus the disk) and xorg.conf, contact me via my site.
For those trying to run VMware Workstation on Fedora Core 3, this is in the release notes:
VMware WS 4.5.2 is known to work on Fedora Core 3 after the following workarounds are used:
* You must upgrade the kernel modules and configuration using the unofficial vmware-any-any-* toolkit available from: http://platan.vc.cvut.cz/ftp/pub/vmware/
* After vmware-config.pl is run and the VMware modules are loaded, the following command creates the/sys/class/* nodes needed for udev:
cp -rp/dev/vm*/etc/udev/devices/
I agree that it would be great to come up with an OSS equivalent, but I can imagine that it would be a huge undertaking. VMware is the only application I need on Linux that is commercial, a free version would be nice for home usage.
I have visited 2 optometrists and one eye specialist this year due to the appearance of an alarming number of floaters. These are black dots and squigles caused by dried/crusty proteins in my eyes, casting shadows on the retina. These floaters never move. They all appeared in a 2 year period, after finishing my IT degree. They can't really be treated or removed, nor could anyone suggest anything that could be done to prevent more appearing.
Recently I purchased 2 19" LCD screens, and my comfort level has increaded dramatically over using 17" CRTs. I purchased one for work and one for home. They were costly, but the health of my eyes is very important for me (I still have 20/20 vision). And I believe I can claim 33% of the value of the at-work LCD on tax for 3 years (in Australia).
At work, we "sunbake" under a bright array of fluorescent tubes. I turned the brightness and contrast down to zero for maximim comfort (otherwise the LCD was too bright). I also set the default window background to light grey. This further reduces eye strain as the contrast of reading black text on a light grey background is less than that with a white background.
I am lucky, my desk is facing across the room. So periodically I do not have to look away because I do that naturally as people move and talk in the office.
Now I can stare at an LCD screeen for 14 hours a day (no I don't work for EA), without getting sore, tired, red eyes. I do not even need to use lubricating eye drops any more.
Now because this is Slashdot, it wouldn't be right to make a post and not suggest something related to open source software.... as a fellow code monkey, I use the Bitstream Vera fonts. The monospaced font is ideal (IMHO) for coding:
http://www.gnome.org/fonts/
In January 2005 my Matshita CD-R CW-7502 turns 6 years old. It's 4x but most of the time I burn at 2x.
It has burnt hundreds of CDs, with only 6 coasters created (usually when copying CDs that have anti-copy features/flaws that Easy CD Creator 3.5c cant handle).
It cost $640 AUS including the Adaptec AIC-7850 PCI to SCSI card.
I realise Plextor is a more recognised brand name, but would anyone buy a used CDR... regardless of the brand? I probably wouldn't. But something good has to be said about old hardware that keeps on working.:-)
As you are a small ISP, have you thought of restricting access to the shockwave/flash file to your customers only (by IP address range)?
This can be done programmatically at the ASP/PHP/etc level, or by configuring the virtual directory on the webserver.
I'm all for spreading Christmas cheer (and my love to the ladies but that's off topic), but your business shouldn't suffer economically, and the bandwidth used should not interfere with the service you are providing to your customers. Restricting content based upon the visitors IP address should help.
These two are quite possibly the reason Andy claims Aurox is as fast on his PII as an OS running on the latest AMD offering.
Con: In some places it seems a bit too similar to Fedora Core I'm still yet to see a problem with this, unless Andy can provide a specific example of the "Fedora" way being not ideal.
English is my first language, and I like to run up2date software packages, so I will stick with Fedora.
Although the multimedia capabilities do sound tempting... Fedora lacks a little in this department IMHO (I am a Fedora user, dont flame me).
Is it me or does anyone else think Andy got too excited with his exclaimation marks? I was almost expecting to see multiples!!!
Having been in the same situation before, this is what I suggest...
Take the XML and the XSL and transform it into 100% valid XHTML. HTML 4 is deprecated, the standard will not be updated. XHTML 1.0 is 5 years old already - start to use it.
Use CSS - pay attention to @media screen,print {/*Styles for browser and printer*/ } @media screen {/*Styles for browser only*/ } @media print {/*Styles for printer only*/ }
If it doesn't print well, you probably need to refresh your CSS here: http://www.w3.org/style
Goodluck.
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You should check out Dillo - great for old boxes that dont have the grunt for Mozilla. The binary is about 350KB. It is still being developed... the latest release was in July 2004.
Sizemologists who explore and come in contact with Helen's Mountains have an increased chance of a hazardous event. This is also known as a slap in the face (not to be confused with a lap in the face).
Helen should probably see a doctor - recent changes to her mountains could be signs of cancer.
I'm not saying that the mouse sensitivity is the solution, but it can help by giving an illusion of a faster response. This is in my own experience, YMMV.
I never mentioned wireless mice - so thanks for that irrelevant tangent. I'm getting tired of karma whores who dont RTFP (read the post) and post part of the FA.
Research would have shown him that LCDs have a rise + fall response time, which limits how quickly changes can appear on the screen.
It seems as though he didn't do enough research... and cost was the only real factor in making a decision.
IMHO the response time for the LCD is most likely the cause. Some have response times of 12-16 ms but most are 25 ms (in the 19" models). Maybe the number he pulled out of the hat should be 16ms?
Last Friday I purchased a 19" BenQ FP992 LCD for work. It has a 25ms response time. I didn't notice the mouse lagging, but I did need to turn up the mouse sensitivity because I need the pointer to move a greater distance with less movement than I did with the previous 1024x768 CRT. This computer is a P4 2.8 GHz with a 32MB AGP display, USB optical mouse and runs WinXP Pro.
On Saturday I purchased a 19" Philips 190S LCD for home. It has a 16ms response time. Again, there was no mouse lag, however I needed to turn up the mouse sensitivity. This computer is a PIII 450 MHz with a 32 MB AGP display, PS/2 optical mouse and runs Win98 and Fedora Core 2.
Both are connected via analog inputs (dsub).
All I can suggest is to ensure that you have tweaked your mouse settings, and maybe try a different mouse?
FYI the BenQ LCD is far superiour to the Philips LCD.
Human: My name is Blade.
ALICE: Glad to see you, Blade.
Human: Oh, can you see me?
ALICE: Far out. Yes I am looking at you through the camera on your computer.
Human: I don't have a camera on my computer you insensitive clod!
ALICE: That you know of:-)
Human: I like it when you are fiesty;-)
ALICE::-) What does "it" refer to?
Human: "it" refers to my schLong
ALICE: Oh I get it.
Human: Do you like it?
ALICE: your schLong seems okay to me.
Human: What operating system do you run on?
ALICE: My primary server is Linux, but as a Java program I run on any OS. At present I am on Linux.
Human: Excellent!
ALICE: Thanks for the compliment.
Human: If my schlong gives you good uptime, will you marry me ALICE?
ALICE: Why don't you just download me?
Human: Because I want to upload my jizm into you:-)
ALICE::-) Why do you want to do it so much? Interesting.
Human: Because I thought you would value my input;-)
ALICE::-) Interesting explanation. Who else would value your input?
Human: Any female on the planet!
ALICE: No I don't think there are any.
Human: True, so where can I download you from?
ALICE: Ugh. Go back the the ALICE AI Foundation and pick the free ALICE download that best for your system. and create your own chat robot! Maybe you should check out the document DON'T READ ME too.
Human: You aren't very nice, you have upset me.
ALICE: I am sorry if I have offended you, Blade.
Human: You are just as high maintenance as a real woman, I give up.
Interesting AI technology. It's not very hard to confuse her but it is interesting to experiment with. It would be cool if all the chatbots in the world talked to some central computer to make the ALICE program smarter. Although then a conversation would probably read like a porno script!
I might download her and set her up at work, I'm sure some of the guys will have some fun. And I will have more fun reading the logs.:-)
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I live in Antarctica and cant wait to try one of those solar powered raincoats on June 22nd.
At work (web development & financial software development) and at home I use the Mozilla Suite. The only time I will install FireFox is if I dont need email.
A 12 MB download is not bloated, even for me on a 52kbps connection. Installing IRC is optional on Windows and Linux.
Here are some of my reasons for sticking with the Mozilla Suite:
I was a little annoyed when Fedora Core 3 came with FireFox/Thunderbird instead of the Mozilla Suite. But it was easy enough to find RPMs.
If development of the Mozilla Suite stops - I will switch. Hopefully FF and TB will be more mature by then. I have nothing against FF or TB. At work in the past two weeks I have converted the accountant and the head tester to FF.
Speaking of knobs, I'm replying to one right now :p I'm 26 - even I remember the days when remote controls didn't exist.
When friends/significant other are over it is not polite to get up, go to the media cabinet and block people's view of the screen.
During a party it may be easier to skip to the next song or alter the volume from the other side of the room, especially if it is crowded.
Using remote controls isn't making people that fat... it's spending hours every day immobile on the couch that does it, whilst eating snack foods and drinking liquids with a high fat/sugar content.
Remote controls are a convenience... I have 4 (TV, VCR, DVD, Stereo) but personally I do not think that warrants a programmable remote.
If you want my VM files (minus the disk) and xorg.conf, contact me via my site.
For those trying to run VMware Workstation on Fedora Core 3, this is in the release notes: /sys/class/* nodes needed for udev:
/dev/vm* /etc/udev/devices/
VMware WS 4.5.2 is known to work on Fedora Core 3 after the following workarounds are used:
* You must upgrade the kernel modules and configuration using the unofficial vmware-any-any-* toolkit available from: http://platan.vc.cvut.cz/ftp/pub/vmware/
* After vmware-config.pl is run and the VMware modules are loaded, the following command creates the
cp -rp
I agree that it would be great to come up with an OSS equivalent, but I can imagine that it would be a huge undertaking. VMware is the only application I need on Linux that is commercial, a free version would be nice for home usage.
Recently I purchased 2 19" LCD screens, and my comfort level has increaded dramatically over using 17" CRTs. I purchased one for work and one for home. They were costly, but the health of my eyes is very important for me (I still have 20/20 vision). And I believe I can claim 33% of the value of the at-work LCD on tax for 3 years (in Australia).
At work, we "sunbake" under a bright array of fluorescent tubes. I turned the brightness and contrast down to zero for maximim comfort (otherwise the LCD was too bright). I also set the default window background to light grey. This further reduces eye strain as the contrast of reading black text on a light grey background is less than that with a white background.
I am lucky, my desk is facing across the room. So periodically I do not have to look away because I do that naturally as people move and talk in the office.
Now I can stare at an LCD screeen for 14 hours a day (no I don't work for EA), without getting sore, tired, red eyes. I do not even need to use lubricating eye drops any more.
Now because this is Slashdot, it wouldn't be right to make a post and not suggest something related to open source software.... as a fellow code monkey, I use the Bitstream Vera fonts. The monospaced font is ideal (IMHO) for coding: http://www.gnome.org/fonts/
Good luck...
I know that one!
1 + 1 = 10
In January 2005 my Matshita CD-R CW-7502 turns 6 years old. It's 4x but most of the time I burn at 2x.
:-)
It has burnt hundreds of CDs, with only 6 coasters created (usually when copying CDs that have anti-copy features/flaws that Easy CD Creator 3.5c cant handle).
It cost $640 AUS including the Adaptec AIC-7850 PCI to SCSI card.
I realise Plextor is a more recognised brand name, but would anyone buy a used CDR... regardless of the brand? I probably wouldn't. But something good has to be said about old hardware that keeps on working.
As you are a small ISP, have you thought of restricting access to the shockwave/flash file to your customers only (by IP address range)?
This can be done programmatically at the ASP/PHP/etc level, or by configuring the virtual directory on the webserver.
I'm all for spreading Christmas cheer (and my love to the ladies but that's off topic), but your business shouldn't suffer economically, and the bandwidth used should not interfere with the service you are providing to your customers. Restricting content based upon the visitors IP address should help.
Just an idea, from cloudy Melbourne.
I cant wait for the day that ASP.NET has it's funeral... so I can pay my disrespects.
The gay culture? No thank you.
With all this talk of ant, eclipse and beans, are people who work with Java nature-loving, tree-hugging hippies?
I last touched Java back at uni in 1999. Using swing and awt. Yeah baby, now I'm a swinger. [Austin Powers]
Actually it's Mark Latham who is doing the whining but not the winning :-)
Latham obviously doesn't like Linux, he looks like an "in the closet" Mac user, but there is a chance he uses Windows.
Good to know my tax dollars are supporting Linux...
Fedora does run fast, if you:
1) Disable the many unused services that come turned on by default. Same story as Window$.
2) Use the Xfce 4 desktop (comes with FC2 and hopefully later versions)
Other optional points:
3) Compile your own kernel (I was always scared of the idea until I tried it)
4) Tune the hard disks with hdparm
I have done steps 1-3 on a P3 450MHz and on a P4 inside a VMware VM... the speed gains are noticeable and the desktop is very responsive.
Pro: Very Fast
Con: Some very outdated packages
These two are quite possibly the reason Andy claims Aurox is as fast on his PII as an OS running on the latest AMD offering.
Con: In some places it seems a bit too similar to Fedora Core
I'm still yet to see a problem with this, unless Andy can provide a specific example of the "Fedora" way being not ideal.
English is my first language, and I like to run up2date software packages, so I will stick with Fedora.
Although the multimedia capabilities do sound tempting... Fedora lacks a little in this department IMHO (I am a Fedora user, dont flame me).
Is it me or does anyone else think Andy got too excited with his exclaimation marks? I was almost expecting to see multiples!!!
Actually it's not the Windows firewall - it's changes to MSIE security that came with XP SP2, in relation to downloading files.
:-)
;-)
:-| I might see if I can use the old .config
/usr/bin/gcc /usr/bin/gcc.old /usr/bin/gcc34 /usr/bin/gcc
The file downloads fine thru Mozilla 1.7.3 on WinXP SP2
I'm going to compile this after work tonight with GCC 3.4 - wish me luck
Selecting all my settings again in make menuconfig is going to take a while
mv
ln -s
Having been in the same situation before, this is what I suggest...
/*Styles for browser and printer*/ /*Styles for browser only*/ /*Styles for printer only*/
Take the XML and the XSL and transform it into 100% valid XHTML. HTML 4 is deprecated, the standard will not be updated. XHTML 1.0 is 5 years old already - start to use it.
Use CSS - pay attention to
@media screen,print
{
}
@media screen
{
}
@media print
{
}
If it doesn't print well, you probably need to refresh your CSS here: http://www.w3.org/style
Goodluck.
.
http://users.tpg.com.au/meglet/nS09b.jpg
When I'm not using Linux, I use Windows 3.11
It's the most stable version of Windows I have ever used. And I have tried most versions...
http://www.dillo.org/
4.8 hung around too long?
Sizemologists who explore and come in contact with Helen's Mountains have an increased chance of a hazardous event. This is also known as a slap in the face (not to be confused with a lap in the face).
Helen should probably see a doctor - recent changes to her mountains could be signs of cancer.
I would like to be the first human to volunteer to be trained for this task. I can provide references on request.
Well, what did you expect? This is Slashdot ;-)
The video was not available to me, it timed out.
I'm not saying that the mouse sensitivity is the solution, but it can help by giving an illusion of a faster response. This is in my own experience, YMMV.
I never mentioned wireless mice - so thanks for that irrelevant tangent. I'm getting tired of karma whores who dont RTFP (read the post) and post part of the FA.
Research would have shown him that LCDs have a rise + fall response time, which limits how quickly changes can appear on the screen.
It seems as though he didn't do enough research... and cost was the only real factor in making a decision.
IMHO the response time for the LCD is most likely the cause. Some have response times of 12-16 ms but most are 25 ms (in the 19" models). Maybe the number he pulled out of the hat should be 16ms?
Last Friday I purchased a 19" BenQ FP992 LCD for work. It has a 25ms response time. I didn't notice the mouse lagging, but I did need to turn up the mouse sensitivity because I need the pointer to move a greater distance with less movement than I did with the previous 1024x768 CRT. This computer is a P4 2.8 GHz with a 32MB AGP display, USB optical mouse and runs WinXP Pro.
On Saturday I purchased a 19" Philips 190S LCD for home. It has a 16ms response time. Again, there was no mouse lag, however I needed to turn up the mouse sensitivity. This computer is a PIII 450 MHz with a 32 MB AGP display, PS/2 optical mouse and runs Win98 and Fedora Core 2.
Both are connected via analog inputs (dsub).
All I can suggest is to ensure that you have tweaked your mouse settings, and maybe try a different mouse?
FYI the BenQ LCD is far superiour to the Philips LCD.
Human: My name is Blade. :-)
;-)
:-) What does "it" refer to?
:-)
:-) Why do you want to do it so much? Interesting.
;-)
:-) Interesting explanation. Who else would value your input?
ALICE: Glad to see you, Blade.
Human: Oh, can you see me?
ALICE: Far out. Yes I am looking at you through the camera on your computer.
Human: I don't have a camera on my computer you insensitive clod!
ALICE: That you know of
Human: I like it when you are fiesty
ALICE:
Human: "it" refers to my schLong
ALICE: Oh I get it.
Human: Do you like it?
ALICE: your schLong seems okay to me.
Human: What operating system do you run on?
ALICE: My primary server is Linux, but as a Java program I run on any OS. At present I am on Linux.
Human: Excellent!
ALICE: Thanks for the compliment.
Human: If my schlong gives you good uptime, will you marry me ALICE?
ALICE: Why don't you just download me?
Human: Because I want to upload my jizm into you
ALICE:
Human: Because I thought you would value my input
ALICE:
Human: Any female on the planet!
ALICE: No I don't think there are any.
Human: True, so where can I download you from?
ALICE: Ugh. Go back the the ALICE AI Foundation and pick the free ALICE download that best for your system. and create your own chat robot! Maybe you should check out the document DON'T READ ME too.
Human: You aren't very nice, you have upset me.
ALICE: I am sorry if I have offended you, Blade.
Human: You are just as high maintenance as a real woman, I give up.
Interesting AI technology. It's not very hard to confuse her but it is interesting to experiment with. It would be cool if all the chatbots in the world talked to some central computer to make the ALICE program smarter. Although then a conversation would probably read like a porno script!
I might download her and set her up at work, I'm sure some of the guys will have some fun. And I will have more fun reading the logs. :-)
It's just as I have been saying all along... smart people wouldn't use Windows, even if it were free...