Educated and/or well-paid people tend to be more liberal than conservative.
I know this is a talking point, but it's absolutely false. In fact, the more educated and well-paid people are, the tendency is that they become more conservative.
Liberals have a long history of espousing that they'll help the poor, but in reality they either don't help at all or worse, give them no way out of being poor. Worse, the really radical liberals think that people in countries that support oppressive dictators aren't worth trying to help. I mean, how weird is that? They call conservatives in this country facists, yet they turn around and support facist dictatorships. Doesn't sound too "educated" to me.
Don't give me any lines about "what about universities, they're really educated, and they're liberal". The liberals there have a base camp from which they can't be extracted because they can't be fired. They grant this same status only to people who buy into the same "group think" they do; rarely do conservatives slip past this gauntlet. Look at that kook in Colorado who's been posing as a Native American and has been proven a plagurist. The guy is a complete wack job they STILL can't get rid of him.
I love how so many headlines (especially here), are half-truths. This seems to be a very common tactic these days, and it's damn near double-speak.
The headline reads "Gonzales Say Publishing Leaks Is A Crime". OH! Who couldn't get behind being against something like that?
The problem is, they left something out. It should read "Gonzales Says Publishing Classified Information Is A Crime". BIG DIFFERENCE.
This is like the headlines you read about illegal immigration. Nearly all the reports leave out "illegal". So you get things like "So-and-So is against immigration of Mexicans", when it should read "So-and-So is against ILLEGAL immigration of Mexicans".
Twisting words like that is just dishonest. Besides that, it shows how very weak someone's argument is when they have to resort to things like that. They can't argue something based on facts, so they twist the words to make it look like it's something it's not.
Are you suggesting that our current "enemy" in the war zone doesn't already know these things?
Just because it's possible, it doesn't mean it's happening. Theoretically, you might be correct, but in practice (and from what we've seen in the news), most of the time the enemy has no idea.
So in answer to the earlier question, no, we shouldn't be helping the insurgents that are trying to keep Iraq in a repressive government, or Afghanistan under the Taliban.
It boggles the mind that there are people in this country that want to see people under brutal "governments" like that, but yell and scream when they think their rights in this country are somehow being trampled on.
I mean, they're all for "liberal" government here, but they're for facist governments in other countries? That's just weird.
I love the way this article was posted.... NO WHERE does it say anything that they're talking about CLASSIFIED INFORMATION.
You're actually saying that journalists can magically publish all classified information, and then turn around and don't get in trouble for doing something thats screwing over the country?
I've been to many JavaOne conferences. I've heard the cry to develop for MIDP.
I listened to the vendors and Sun, and all the "There's lots of opportunity".
You know what? That was complete bullshit.
The hurdles a small development company (3 or 4 guys, or smaller) has to go through to get an app developed is one thing. That can be handled. Code is code. Even with bugs in some of their phones (Hi there, Samsung), issues can be worked around.
The real problem is dealing with the phone vendors and the carriers. The vendors less so than the carriers. They charge an enormous amount of money to do "compliance" testing, and then, IF you're lucky, you'll get picked to be put on their download lists. And then they take a massive cut of the purchase price.
Like I said, this is IF you're lucky. The last time we looked into it, small publishers had to get accepted by bigger publishers just to get your app noticed.
This is yet another instance of the unbridled greed that cell phone carriers have in this market; Handhelds, such as Treo (Palm & now, Windows), don't have the crap to deal with that Java apps do.
Stick with Palm/Windows unless you can get picked up by a big publishers (JAMDAT, etc). The headaches with working with Sprint's "support" (ha!) isn't worth it.
Treat the people with some respect. Not only is it the right thing to do, but they'll probably fall over from you even doing it. Most IT people I know get treated like crap, and they don't deserve that.
The last 10 year have seen an explosion in demand of skilled workers?
What country do you live in? US? After the facade of the 90s (Internet "boom".... just a bunch of companies running prices up, just have them crash down....can you say "Enron?" came crashing down, it was tough going from about 1999 to 2001. Things have gotten a lot better since then. It hasn't been all roses the last ten years.
Right now, things are great. Economy doing well, stock market at an near all time high, unemployment down.
All those things are well and good, and are great things.... But they were done many many years ago.
What have unions done lately? Just because they did something great in the past doesn't mean they haven't outlived their usefulness. They're long past it.
Nah, he just pays attention. Unions take a lot of money and, for example, contribute it to political candidates. You don't like them doing that with a candidate you oppose? Well, that's tough... they like him.
Think of it this way. Think of a candidate for office you really really hate. I mean HATE. Then, think of your money getting funneled to that candidate directly into his/her campaign.
thought I had. I took them at their word- that they couldn't afford more salary, and that a PERMANENT job meant PERMANENT (as opposed to, we'll toss you for no reason when we feel like it). But they're liars- just like everybody else in this rotten economy.
That's your first mistake. Loyality at jobs is a one sided deal. Permanent never ever means permanent.
As for "rotten economy": I have to call FUD on that one. The stock market is near an all time high, and unemployment is near an all time low.
Took me a minute, until I realized you had to be joking! Man, you really had me going there. That has to be one of the best parodies of tin-hat paranoia I've read on/. in a long time. If I had more mod points right now, you'd have gotten my Funny vote for sure!
The summary was written by the lawyer representing this guy (as others in this thread have pointed out), so there's obvious spin going on. The real kicker of all this is his lame "Free Speech Rights" claim.
The government didn't do a freaking thing to limit his "free speech". The guy did something vindictive against his former employer, got caught at it, and they went after him.
It's stupid statements like that which don't put this guy (or the lawyer) in a very good light. It sounds like he's grasping at straws, looking for some way to vindicate his client for doing something really stupid.
That's long been going on here with "policatically correct" speech. Don't like the way something's said, say "illegal immigrant?" Just call them "Undocumented Workers", technically correct, but leaving out that whole messy "illegal" part that kinda submarines the whole discussion.
There are a LOT more cases of this... that one is just one that's been in the news recently.
As for how long before the vast majority stand up and start protesting.... I think it'll be a long long time. After the last "protest", I don't think many people there are willing to take a chance.
AC - Mosaic, as in NCSA Mosaic, the original (which SGI had NOTHING to do with). I was not talking about the company that got started afterward, Mosaic Communications, that was forced to change it's name.
SGI did not own the Internet space. Just because they had those on their platform doesn't mean they "owned" anything.
Mosaic - and shortly afterward, Netscape - was on every platform you can name. Httpd was supported on all those platforms too. By the time the "Internet revolution" and all the hype (and corruption) that drove up the stock market in the 90s, SGI was in the beginning of it's decline.
Sure, they had a great campus, they had great people working for them, but it didn't take long for it to come crashing down around them.
Which is unfortunate. SGI was a pretty cool place.
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Educated and/or well-paid people tend to be more liberal than conservative.
I know this is a talking point, but it's absolutely false. In fact, the more educated and well-paid people are, the tendency is that they become more conservative.
Liberals have a long history of espousing that they'll help the poor, but in reality they either don't help at all or worse, give them no way out of being poor. Worse, the really radical liberals think that people in countries that support oppressive dictators aren't worth trying to help. I mean, how weird is that? They call conservatives in this country facists, yet they turn around and support facist dictatorships. Doesn't sound too "educated" to me.
Don't give me any lines about "what about universities, they're really educated, and they're liberal". The liberals there have a base camp from which they can't be extracted because they can't be fired. They grant this same status only to people who buy into the same "group think" they do; rarely do conservatives slip past this gauntlet. Look at that kook in Colorado who's been posing as a Native American and has been proven a plagurist. The guy is a complete wack job they STILL can't get rid of him.
Yeah, real "educated".
Liberal == grown-up == intelligent == understands nuance
No offense, but that doesn't equate....not by a long shot.
I love how so many headlines (especially here), are half-truths. This seems to be a very common tactic these days, and it's damn near double-speak.
The headline reads "Gonzales Say Publishing Leaks Is A Crime". OH! Who couldn't get behind being against something like that?
The problem is, they left something out. It should read "Gonzales Says Publishing Classified Information Is A Crime". BIG DIFFERENCE.
This is like the headlines you read about illegal immigration. Nearly all the reports leave out "illegal". So you get things like "So-and-So is against immigration of Mexicans", when it should read "So-and-So is against ILLEGAL immigration of Mexicans".
Twisting words like that is just dishonest. Besides that, it shows how very weak someone's argument is when they have to resort to things like that. They can't argue something based on facts, so they twist the words to make it look like it's something it's not.
Are you suggesting that our current "enemy" in the war zone doesn't already know these things?
Just because it's possible, it doesn't mean it's happening. Theoretically, you might be correct, but in practice (and from what we've seen in the news), most of the time the enemy has no idea.
So in answer to the earlier question, no, we shouldn't be helping the insurgents that are trying to keep Iraq in a repressive government, or Afghanistan under the Taliban.
It boggles the mind that there are people in this country that want to see people under brutal "governments" like that, but yell and scream when they think their rights in this country are somehow being trampled on.
I mean, they're all for "liberal" government here, but they're for facist governments in other countries? That's just weird.
I love the way this article was posted.... NO WHERE does it say anything that they're talking about CLASSIFIED INFORMATION.
You're actually saying that journalists can magically publish all classified information, and then turn around and don't get in trouble for doing something thats screwing over the country?
A company faked a demo? I'm shocked....SHOCKED, I tell you!
I've been to many JavaOne conferences. I've heard the cry to develop for MIDP.
I listened to the vendors and Sun, and all the "There's lots of opportunity".
You know what? That was complete bullshit.
The hurdles a small development company (3 or 4 guys, or smaller) has to go through to get an app developed is one thing. That can be handled. Code is code. Even with bugs in some of their phones (Hi there, Samsung), issues can be worked around.
The real problem is dealing with the phone vendors and the carriers. The vendors less so than the carriers. They charge an enormous amount of money to do "compliance" testing, and then, IF you're lucky, you'll get picked to be put on their download lists. And then they take a massive cut of the purchase price.
Like I said, this is IF you're lucky. The last time we looked into it, small publishers had to get accepted by bigger publishers just to get your app noticed.
This is yet another instance of the unbridled greed that cell phone carriers have in this market; Handhelds, such as Treo (Palm & now, Windows), don't have the crap to deal with that Java apps do.
Stick with Palm/Windows unless you can get picked up by a big publishers (JAMDAT, etc). The headaches with working with Sprint's "support" (ha!) isn't worth it.
It is still an open question whether it will be distributed also for free.
He's kidding, right? If they charge for it, someone will put it up for "free" within one day.
Sad, but true.
It's a condition of his probation. If he doesn't want to give it, that's up to him: Probation revoked.
Isn't it obvious?
Treat the people with some respect. Not only is it the right thing to do, but they'll probably fall over from you even doing it. Most IT people I know get treated like crap, and they don't deserve that.
Nobody does.
That isn't ensuring the corp isn't calling all the shots, that's just blackmail.
You want to call the shots at a company? Own some stock. Do like what's going on there? Go to a rival company.
Unions....Pfft. Tech has done damn well without them, along with hundreds of thousands of tech workers.
The last 10 year have seen an explosion in demand of skilled workers?
What country do you live in? US? After the facade of the 90s (Internet "boom".... just a bunch of companies running prices up, just have them crash down....can you say "Enron?" came crashing down, it was tough going from about 1999 to 2001. Things have gotten a lot better since then. It hasn't been all roses the last ten years.
Right now, things are great. Economy doing well, stock market at an near all time high, unemployment down.
And it happened all without a tech union.
All those things are well and good, and are great things.... But they were done many many years ago.
What have unions done lately? Just because they did something great in the past doesn't mean they haven't outlived their usefulness. They're long past it.
Ask your friends and other contacts you have. Check with customers and family. That's the #1 way to get into a job these days.
Avoid the job sites. That might give you an idea who's hiring, but having someone on the inside is the way to go.
Nah, he just pays attention. Unions take a lot of money and, for example, contribute it to political candidates. You don't like them doing that with a candidate you oppose? Well, that's tough... they like him.
Think of it this way. Think of a candidate for office you really really hate. I mean HATE. Then, think of your money getting funneled to that candidate directly into his/her campaign.
Nice, huh?
No, you make your own. People do it every single day, and without unions.
thought I had. I took them at their word- that they couldn't afford more salary, and that a PERMANENT job meant PERMANENT (as opposed to, we'll toss you for no reason when we feel like it). But they're liars- just like everybody else in this rotten economy.
That's your first mistake. Loyality at jobs is a one sided deal. Permanent never ever means permanent.
As for "rotten economy": I have to call FUD on that one. The stock market is near an all time high, and unemployment is near an all time low.
If unions get into the tech workplace, you have little or no hope of EVER getting rid of co-workers that aren't picking up the slack.
Took me a minute, until I realized you had to be joking! Man, you really had me going there. That has to be one of the best parodies of tin-hat paranoia I've read on /. in a long time. If I had more mod points right now, you'd have gotten my Funny vote for sure!
The summary was written by the lawyer representing this guy (as others in this thread have pointed out), so there's obvious spin going on. The real kicker of all this is his lame "Free Speech Rights" claim.
The government didn't do a freaking thing to limit his "free speech". The guy did something vindictive against his former employer, got caught at it, and they went after him.
It's stupid statements like that which don't put this guy (or the lawyer) in a very good light. It sounds like he's grasping at straws, looking for some way to vindicate his client for doing something really stupid.
Wait..you forgot the part where "whistleblowing" is OK only as long as it's in favor of what you're against.
1984? You mean Double Think?
That's long been going on here with "policatically correct" speech. Don't like the way something's said, say "illegal immigrant?" Just call them "Undocumented Workers", technically correct, but leaving out that whole messy "illegal" part that kinda submarines the whole discussion.
There are a LOT more cases of this... that one is just one that's been in the news recently.
As for how long before the vast majority stand up and start protesting.... I think it'll be a long long time. After the last "protest", I don't think many people there are willing to take a chance.
AC - Mosaic, as in NCSA Mosaic, the original (which SGI had NOTHING to do with). I was not talking about the company that got started afterward, Mosaic Communications, that was forced to change it's name.
SGI did not own the Internet space. Just because they had those on their platform doesn't mean they "owned" anything.
Mosaic - and shortly afterward, Netscape - was on every platform you can name. Httpd was supported on all those platforms too. By the time the "Internet revolution" and all the hype (and corruption) that drove up the stock market in the 90s, SGI was in the beginning of it's decline.
Sure, they had a great campus, they had great people working for them, but it didn't take long for it to come crashing down around them.
Which is unfortunate. SGI was a pretty cool place.
Al had a sex change?