Screw security. It does not need to be implemented on the network. It can be implemented on the endpoints, and there are already devices to encrypt plain old telephone calls.
Reliability is the key. PSTN are not more secure except for the fact that is controlled by a few and has limited application besides voice (your fax machine is not going to contract a virus that will in turn disrupt communications for everyone).
VoIP is feasible, but not over plain old internet, and it doesn't have to be. There are several telcos that use IP on their voice backbone, on a network isolated from the internet.
Imagine the slashdot effect taking down not only your company's webserver, but your phone lines as well...;-)
Yeah, and we all should go to interior decorators to have our houses decorated, professional cleaning companies to have our bathrooms cleaned, and professional shoppers to do the shopping for us
I think you missed the point big time.
I can decorate my own home, but if my place of business is part of the image I project to my customers, I'll hire professional help.
If my web site is a form of revenue, I'll try to get as much edge as I can from my competitors, and that will most likely mean hire someone who can do more that just color coordination.
I bet it will have an effect, but more than likely the long-term effect will simply be to move even more of the spam off-shore.
Yes, but will the spam beneficiaries move off shore (like some of the online gambling operators had to)? Unless they are willing to move also, the "follow the money" procedure will get to them.
$650 to fix the windshield wipers???!!!! For that money, I could probably buy the whole kit brand new from the manufacturer, unless we are talking Rolls Royce or Jaguar here. A couple of years back, my sister had a BMW door replaced for about that much (low end BMW, series 3 or somesuch).
Please, it would be something *near* "cyberterrorism" and a danger to public safety if it were self propgating
I guess what matters are the author's intention. I don't know much about 911, but I believe they would investigate a series of call with the same origin and that would amount to wasted police time. I think that's what they do when somebody calls and nobody talks (it might be someone having a heart attack or otherwise unable to speak).
but this relied entirely upon the studity of the user to not only run it, but manually propogate it to other people, which is kind of hard when it makes their system unusable after having run it
According to the blurb (didn't RTFA) some people did re-distribute it (I guess before they used it).
I suppose they'll want to make an example out of him, and quite frankly, I can't feel sorry for him. He is 43 years old, so this would hardly be a "harmless child's prank". He did endager public safety (911 has a finite number of lines/operators) and while he probably didn't have terrorist intentions, he should have known better.
Thanks for the quote (I *am* too lazy to look it up).
But is SCO really re-licencing the NMAP software? Doesn't Sun does something like this. My Solaris 8 came with a "Supplemental CD" full of GPL software, including GNOME.
I was under the impression that as long as you release the source of the software you are distributing, you were in compliance with the GPL, even if you charged for it.
Isn't there an equivalent to ipfilter in the Windows kernel?
Yes. The Win2k has port filtering but it's disabled in the default install. And it sucks at maintaining UDP state (and is not granular enough for my purposes...)
HA! Good one! The silence part if specially important if the animal in question is actually your SO's.
I already warned my GF that she's not going to bring any of the pets she keeps over when we get married. She's probably going to, anyway, so I'm getting used to the idea by reading a lot of Garfield strips.
We found her foaming at the mouth this morning, so we threw her out. No, we don't really want her back; she tends to chew on power cords
Damn, that's cruel! Were they planning on never taking it back? Geez, they could at least try to place her in another home or euthanize her.
I'm not a cat fan (my father didn't like them and now that I live by myself I'm too lazy to keep anything more demanding than a cactus) but if you get a pet, you can't simply throw it away like you would a faulty appliance.
Did you miss the part about having limited or no access to install additional software? Whois, Dig, and host are not part of Win2k by default, and afaik they are not part of WinXP either.
Poor fellas, and I guess they are stuck doing their word processing using Wordpad, since it's what comes installed by default on Windows.
*They* don't have to install anything if they don't get admin rights (and it's not clear yet wether they'll be denied it). If they need a piece of software installed, they can always ask the IT people to install it, and if it's necessary for their job, I don't see how they can deny it. Yes, it sucks to become a "restricted user" after having been admin, and I would hate for it to happen to me.
Still, I don't see it being a very productive move
Agreed. But I don't see it as counter productive either. Who knows, maybe the new bosses have a valid reason for this move. Not everyone with a suit and tie is a complete moron.
How can you traceroute, ping, dig, whois, host, etc. Honestly
Are you trolling? I already do all that from a Windows box. So, some of those utils are not part of the default install, easily remedied with a couple of downloads. Heck my old Solaris workstation didn't have traceroute by default.
Get a new job, better boss, more pay, more respect, etc.
Oh, I get it! You are joking. The lack of smiley threw me off.
For what is worth, here's my advice: deal with it.
If management mandates that you *have* to use Windows XP (which is Win2k with fluff, and win2k is darn good) and that you *won't* have admin access to your desktop, you'll have to swallow the pill or go away.
I assume you already talked it over with your bosses and failed to convince them to keep the current enviroment, so here's what you should do (assuming you decide not to quit):
1. Make a list of all the applications you need and make sure they have them (ssh, X server, whatever) and make sure they provide them. They are your work tools and without them, you won't be able to do whatever it is they pay you to do.
2. Learn to live with Windows. The quicker you adapt, the easier it will be. There are very little workstation related functions that you can do in Linux and not in Windows. The only difference is that you'll probably have to pay for add-ons, as I'm sure you told your bosses, but, hey, it's their call.
3. Do you really need admin access to your workstation? If so, make your case and present it to them. Do you need to test/install new applications? Do you need to run an application that only runs in admin mode?
4. Be wary of all those advices we are giving you here (yes, including me). For example, setting a rogue Linux box in a corner and working on it. Going around company policy might land you in hot water even if it's harmless.
5. Lighten up. It's not the end of the world. If it really makes you that unconfortable, update your resume and try to land another gig.
This is a horible idea - for those of us that bounce through different MTAs during our life based on where we are (work/home/travelling/etc.) to send mail out, but still wanting all of our mail to come to our trusty inbox.
Shoot, man! That's what SMTP Auth is for. Most of my "roaming" users use it. Those that don't, use webmail. Talk to your mail provider. They probably have a solution similar to this (it's been around for a while now).
Subject: Check this out Response - This subject is commonly used in Virus e-mail, bounced back to me.
Now *that* is screwed up. Just like people of set up their mail servers to bounce any email containing the word "viagra", the potential for false positives is too high.
And even then they'll only buy it for the phone, not the gaming.
Only if they are giving them away with cell phone plans. That thing is too bulky and cumbersome compared with phones of similar (minus gaming) features.
Ah, Xanth. Never had the stomach for this series. Puns are fine (in a groaner kind of way) but chapter after chapter of puns grow really old, really fast. Most of them aren't even that funny ("Compewter", anyone?)
By the way, the insides of a low-end-but-still-so-expensive Sun machine are so-o-o cheap, like IDE Seagate drives... why do they charge so much for them?
I'm talking out of personal experience only. We have several SUN workstation that use IDE drives. Said drives tend to last years of normal everyday use. When one of the drivers finally croaked, we replaced with a $100 off the shelf drive (WD). It lasted all of 5 months. After that, we replaced with another off the shelf drive (maxtor, I think) and it too died in less than a year. We bought a drive from SUN (Seagate) wich costed more than $450 (for 20GB!) and so far it hasn't failed.
I guess it is would be cheaper next time to buy it off the shelf, now that I know that Sun recommends it.
Say that the period of unemployment was actually you being a freelance IT consultant, then add that those brief jobs you got were consulting projects meant to be temporary.
I wouldn't recommend this unless you have quite a poker face. Job interviewers tend to smell bullshit like shit on a shoe (to paraphrase yet another movie) and often will not press the issue, they'll simply not hire you.
Now, telling the truth haven't quite worked out, I guess, so if you do decide to go with it, make sure you polish your story, iron out details ("Sorry I can't give you names, I had an NDA with my clients") and if possible, ask a friend to "proof" you.
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. . . The Passion of Frodo
Sam?
That would mean being tried for the same crime twice.
But does the principle of double jeopardy extend thru jurisdictions (regional or international)?
Screw security. It does not need to be implemented on the network. It can be implemented on the endpoints, and there are already devices to encrypt plain old telephone calls.
;-)
Reliability is the key. PSTN are not more secure except for the fact that is controlled by a few and has limited application besides voice (your fax machine is not going to contract a virus that will in turn disrupt communications for everyone).
VoIP is feasible, but not over plain old internet, and it doesn't have to be. There are several telcos that use IP on their voice backbone, on a network isolated from the internet.
Imagine the slashdot effect taking down not only your company's webserver, but your phone lines as well...
"Procreation will be nothing more than an annual ritual"
ONLY ONCE A YEAR????
Come to think of it, it might be an improvement on my current conditions...
Yeah, and we all should go to interior decorators to have our houses decorated, professional cleaning companies to have our bathrooms cleaned, and professional shoppers to do the shopping for us
I think you missed the point big time.
I can decorate my own home, but if my place of business is part of the image I project to my customers, I'll hire professional help.
If my web site is a form of revenue, I'll try to get as much edge as I can from my competitors, and that will most likely mean hire someone who can do more that just color coordination.
Its called Hotmail. No screaming bloody murder, more like laughing our asses off...
Why? Hotmail seems to be doing alright for the amount of users they have.
Yes, the site is slow and sometimes spits "server too busy", but more often than not, works ok.
I dunno if it would be better if they were still using freebsd.
I bet it will have an effect, but more than likely the long-term effect will simply be to move even more of the spam off-shore.
Yes, but will the spam beneficiaries move off shore (like some of the online gambling operators had to)? Unless they are willing to move also, the "follow the money" procedure will get to them.
Mrs. Schroedinger to Mr. Schroedinger:
Schroedinger... Schroedinger... that's the piano playing kid in peanuts, right?
$650 to fix the windshield wipers???!!!! For that money, I could probably buy the whole kit brand new from the manufacturer, unless we are talking Rolls Royce or Jaguar here. A couple of years back, my sister had a BMW door replaced for about that much (low end BMW, series 3 or somesuch).
You need to find another garage shop.
Last friday I saw win 2000 server restart on our server for no reason.
Did it bluescreen or just plain restarted? Did you have automatic updates enabled (tho I don't know if it will restart the machine).
I once saw a Win2k workstation reboot for no particular reason. It turned out to be a hardware issue.
Please, it would be something *near* "cyberterrorism" and a danger to public safety if it were self propgating
I guess what matters are the author's intention. I don't know much about 911, but I believe they would investigate a series of call with the same origin and that would amount to wasted police time. I think that's what they do when somebody calls and nobody talks (it might be someone having a heart attack or otherwise unable to speak).
but this relied entirely upon the studity of the
user to not only run it, but manually propogate it to other people, which is kind of hard when it makes their system unusable after having run it
According to the blurb (didn't RTFA) some people did re-distribute it (I guess before they used it).
I suppose they'll want to make an example out of him, and quite frankly, I can't feel sorry for him. He is 43 years old, so this would hardly be a "harmless child's prank". He did endager public safety (911 has a finite number of lines/operators) and while he probably didn't have terrorist intentions, he should have known better.
Thanks for the quote (I *am* too lazy to look it up).
But is SCO really re-licencing the NMAP software? Doesn't Sun does something like this. My Solaris 8 came with a "Supplemental CD" full of GPL software, including GNOME.
I was under the impression that as long as you release the source of the software you are distributing, you were in compliance with the GPL, even if you charged for it.
Isn't there an equivalent to ipfilter in the Windows kernel?
Yes. The Win2k has port filtering but it's disabled in the default install. And it sucks at maintaining UDP state (and is not granular enough for my purposes...)
Why not write about your experience in a place where thousands of geeks across the world could be disgusted by Apple's slimy business practices?
Fark?
(Shoot, Shovel, Silence)
HA! Good one! The silence part if specially important if the animal in question is actually your SO's.
I already warned my GF that she's not going to bring any of the pets she keeps over when we get married. She's probably going to, anyway, so I'm getting used to the idea by reading a lot of Garfield strips.
We found her foaming at the mouth this morning, so we threw her out. No, we don't really want her back; she tends to chew on power cords
Damn, that's cruel! Were they planning on never taking it back? Geez, they could at least try to place her in another home or euthanize her.
I'm not a cat fan (my father didn't like them and now that I live by myself I'm too lazy to keep anything more demanding than a cactus) but if you get a pet, you can't simply throw it away like you would a faulty appliance.
Did you miss the part about having limited or no access to install additional software? Whois, Dig, and host are not part of Win2k by default, and afaik they are not part of WinXP either.
Poor fellas, and I guess they are stuck doing their word processing using Wordpad, since it's what comes installed by default on Windows.
*They* don't have to install anything if they don't get admin rights (and it's not clear yet wether they'll be denied it). If they need a piece of software installed, they can always ask the IT people to install it, and if it's necessary for their job, I don't see how they can deny it. Yes, it sucks to become a "restricted user" after having been admin, and I would hate for it to happen to me.
Still, I don't see it being a very productive move
Agreed. But I don't see it as counter productive either. Who knows, maybe the new bosses have a valid reason for this move. Not everyone with a suit and tie is a complete moron.
How can you traceroute, ping, dig, whois, host, etc. Honestly
Are you trolling? I already do all that from a Windows box. So, some of those utils are not part of the default install, easily remedied with a couple of downloads. Heck my old Solaris workstation didn't have traceroute by default.
Get a new job, better boss, more pay, more respect, etc.
Oh, I get it! You are joking. The lack of smiley threw me off.
For what is worth, here's my advice: deal with it.
If management mandates that you *have* to use Windows XP (which is Win2k with fluff, and win2k is darn good) and that you *won't* have admin access to your desktop, you'll have to swallow the pill or go away.
I assume you already talked it over with your bosses and failed to convince them to keep the current enviroment, so here's what you should do (assuming you decide not to quit):
1. Make a list of all the applications you need and make sure they have them (ssh, X server, whatever) and make sure they provide them. They are your work tools and without them, you won't be able to do whatever it is they pay you to do.
2. Learn to live with Windows. The quicker you adapt, the easier it will be. There are very little workstation related functions that you can do in Linux and not in Windows. The only difference is that you'll probably have to pay for add-ons, as I'm sure you told your bosses, but, hey, it's their call.
3. Do you really need admin access to your workstation? If so, make your case and present it to them. Do you need to test/install new applications? Do you need to run an application that only runs in admin mode?
4. Be wary of all those advices we are giving you here (yes, including me). For example, setting a rogue Linux box in a corner and working on it. Going around company policy might land you in hot water even if it's harmless.
5. Lighten up. It's not the end of the world. If it really makes you that unconfortable, update your resume and try to land another gig.
This is a horible idea - for those of us that bounce through different MTAs during our life based on where we are (work/home/travelling/etc.) to send mail out, but still wanting all of our mail to come to our trusty inbox.
Shoot, man! That's what SMTP Auth is for. Most of my "roaming" users use it. Those that don't, use webmail. Talk to your mail provider. They probably have a solution similar to this (it's been around for a while now).
Subject: Check this out
Response - This subject is commonly used in Virus e-mail, bounced back to me.
Now *that* is screwed up. Just like people of set up their mail servers to bounce any email containing the word "viagra", the potential for false positives is too high.
And even then they'll only buy it for the phone, not the gaming.
Only if they are giving them away with cell phone plans. That thing is too bulky and cumbersome compared with phones of similar (minus gaming) features.
_Xanth 49: More Puns about Panties and Ogres_.
Ah, Xanth. Never had the stomach for this series. Puns are fine (in a groaner kind of way) but chapter after chapter of puns grow really old, really fast. Most of them aren't even that funny ("Compewter", anyone?)
By the way, the insides of a low-end-but-still-so-expensive Sun machine are so-o-o cheap, like IDE Seagate drives... why do they charge so much for them?
I'm talking out of personal experience only. We have several SUN workstation that use IDE drives. Said drives tend to last years of normal everyday use. When one of the drivers finally croaked, we replaced with a $100 off the shelf drive (WD). It lasted all of 5 months. After that, we replaced with another off the shelf drive (maxtor, I think) and it too died in less than a year. We bought a drive from SUN (Seagate) wich costed more than $450 (for 20GB!) and so far it hasn't failed.
I guess it is would be cheaper next time to buy it off the shelf, now that I know that Sun recommends it.
Say that the period of unemployment was actually you being a freelance IT consultant, then add that those brief jobs you got were consulting projects meant to be temporary.
I wouldn't recommend this unless you have quite a poker face. Job interviewers tend to smell bullshit like shit on a shoe (to paraphrase yet another movie) and often will not press the issue, they'll simply not hire you.
Now, telling the truth haven't quite worked out, I guess, so if you do decide to go with it, make sure you polish your story, iron out details ("Sorry I can't give you names, I had an NDA with my clients") and if possible, ask a friend to "proof" you.
I'm supposed to be in the middle of a big project, typing away furiously, and suddenly my speakers burst out with "Hello, Computer"!
Which is why I always keep my sound card in "mute" while at work, unless I need to use it for something specific.