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Protecting Your Gear from Pets?

EvilJoven asks: "About a month ago I spent quite a large chunk of change on a new system only to have my cat chew through the VGA source cable of my brand new display. Over the course of the last few years my cat has cost me nearly $300CDN in repair and replacement costs due to chewed cables including a few power cables which are not only a pain to replace but potentially fatal to the animal and a fire hazard. So far the best solution I've found to stop this is wrapping all my cables in Snap-On Wire Protectors (about $6CDN for 3m at Canadian Tire in the Automotive section) but this is a rather unsightly solution. Due to the fact that I live in a one bedroom apartment restricting my cats access to my hardware is not an option. I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on a better way to protect gear from animals."

190 comments

  1. Nail biting by Improv · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I was young, my parents experimented with
    putting stuff on my nails to stop me from biting
    them. It tasted terrible. Perhaps the same could
    be applied to cables in your apartment?

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    1. Re:Nail biting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      I find that a small amount of dishwashing detergent rubbed along the cable works great. It doesn't hurt the pet to be exposed to this small amount, and it leaves a nasty enough taste that they won't go back for a second try.

      ~dank

    2. Re:Nail biting by beegle · · Score: 5, Funny

      My grandparents tried this with hot sauce and furniture legs to stop a problem dog. They ended up with a dog that liked hot sauce.

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    3. Re:Nail biting by justDucky · · Score: 1

      Yep thats the way to go. Mix up a concoction of cyanne(sp?) pepper, red pepper, water, and maybe something else to thicken it a bit. then use a small paint brush to wipe it on the main lengths of the cables. The smell should send them off to chew on other things(like your lamp cords).

    4. Re:Nail biting by hankwang · · Score: 4, Informative
      I find that a small amount of dishwashing detergent rubbed along the cable works great. It doesn't hurt the pet to be exposed to this small amount, and it leaves a nasty enough taste that they won't go back for a second try.

      Actually, dishwashing agent is made to taste horrible to discourage children from eating it. You'd be better of with just that magical flavour without the dishwashing stuff around it.

    5. Re:Nail biting by fr33cl4m · · Score: 3, Informative

      I have 4 cats and no problems...but the two rabbits are a different story they chewed up every USB cable and speaker cable in sight. I solved the problem using Ben Gay. Rub it on the cables... they stopped instantly in my case...

      fr33cl4m!

    6. Re:Nail biting by Strange+Ranger · · Score: 4, Informative

      They ended up with a dog that liked hot sauce.

      Seriously though, the sauce wasn't hot enough. Red Hot and Tobasco really aren't too hot. When we got a new puppy, I put a mixture of water and Dave's Insanity sauce ( anything in this Scary Sauces category will do the same job) on the furniture legs, power & phone cables, and carpet fringes. As another poster said, 'Bitter Apple' would need to be stronger and come in cheap gallon sizes to really do the job. That's where the Dave's and water comes in. 1 teaspoon Dave's per 2 cups water. Guaranteed to work, unless your pet is a serious masochist.

      Also have to remember to keep the water bowl full, or be a cruel jerk.

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    7. Re:Nail biting by aminorex · · Score: 1

      Haban~ero pepper extract will deter any sane,
      genetically intact, pet.

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    8. Re:Nail biting by schon · · Score: 2, Informative

      the sauce wasn't hot enough

      No, his dog was just immune to it. Just like people, dogs are individuals - and just as there are people who like spicy foods, some people don't.

      As a puppy, our border collie would chew on anything.. we tried a number of commercial solutions (including bitter apple), as well as hot sauce (habanero powder) The dog loved it - he would suck the pepper off, then start chewing.

      We accidentally came across a solution as I was putting rub a5-35 on my legs after a workout.. the dog came over to see what I was doing (sniffing, as dogs do), got within an inch of my leg, and let out a howl I'll never forget..

      After that, a dab of the stuff on anything we didn't want chewed cured him from ever wanting to put his face near it.

    9. Re:Nail biting by Here+I+Stand · · Score: 1

      Actually, dishwashing agent is made to taste horrible to discourage children from eating it.

      This is also true of other types of household cleaners - some even mention something along the lines of *with Bitrex* on the label. Look for this and, as the original poster suggested, your problems will be solved.

    10. Re:Nail biting by KhanAFur · · Score: 1

      My cat is the worst about biting EVERYTHING. I'm completely amazed he is still alive because he has bitten through plugged in electrical cords amongst other things. The mouse cord was his favorite until I went to a wireless mouse because it would move when I used it so it was perfect for him to attack.

      What I have found works best is Grannick's Bitter Apple. It is inexpensive, easy to apply, safe for pets, and My cat absolutely HATES it. I have nearly every cord in my house covered in it.

    11. Re:Nail biting by gmhowell · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Similarly, it won't keep many birds away from cords. My mother has a parrot and a cockatieu (sp?). For kicks, my brother and I would buy ever hotter peppers to see if the bird would ever stop eating them. No dice. When the peppers are eating through the gloves you handle them with (hyperbole, don't ask for a type:) we gave up. The little blighter would pop the cap, eat the seeds and ribs, then beg for more.

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    12. Re:Nail biting by buttahead · · Score: 1

      My new dog got a habanero off of the counter and after a few hours of chewing it, it dissapeared.

      He didn't go for the kill right off because it was too hot, but he killed it through persistance.

    13. Re:Nail biting by jc42 · · Score: 1

      Depending on your pet, it might not be possible to make it hot enough.

      Our problem is a cockatiel. The cute little devil has learned to pop the key caps off of keyboards. So far, we've managed to catch him in the act, retrieve the key cap, and press it back in place. But it's just a matter of time before he flies off with one.

      Hot peppers don't faze parrots. Commercial parrot mixes often include hot peppers. A while ago, when I decided to harvest a pot full of ripe "decorative" peppers, our conure landed on my shoulder with an expectant look on her face. So I handed her one, which she devoured. She ate half of a second pepper before she was happy. These were peppers hot enough that one of them imparts a significant amount of heat to 3 or 4 litres of jambalaya.

      There was a paper published last year by some researchers who had figured out why birds can eat hot peppers. It turns out that the capsaicin molecule that produces the "heat" binds to the nerve endings in mammals but not in birds. Birds literally don't feel the effect (or at least not very strongly).

      They conjectured that this was adaptive on the peppers' part. Mammals mostly have long digestive tracts, where pepper seeds have a high attrition rate. Birds can't afford to fly all that undigested mass around. They have short digestive tracts that extract the easily-extracted stuff and dump the rest. The leathery shell of pepper seeds easily survives the few hours inside a bird, and are then dropped with a chunk of fertilizer far from the parent plant. The idea is that peppers evolved a tool to discourage mammals, while the rest of the fruit tastes good to many South American birds.

      Anyway, you'll need to find a repellent that affects your particular pet.

      (And I've also seen cats and dogs that like hot sausages. So hot peppers might affect some of them, but not all.)

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    14. Re:Nail biting by beegle · · Score: 1

      I've heard (FOAF) that in some parts of Mexico, peppers that are too hot for humans (and other mammals) to eat are called "bird peppers", because everything else leaves them alone and the birds happily eat them.

      IIRC, birds don't have the type of nerve that processes capsicum oil as "hot".

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    15. Re:Nail biting by Strange+Ranger · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually I read somewhere that the whole pepper genus evolved specifically to disperse seeds through birds alone. A bird has a much shorter less-acidic digestive tract than a mammal. A bird also has no teeth. So the bird can disperse the seeds, whereas a mammal's teeth and digestive tract would destroy, or at least sterilize, the seeds. So as a plant, how do you get birds to eat your seeds and not mammals? Simple, you "evolve" a compound that mammals find totally unpalatable, but that birds don't mind at all. Hence capsaicin.

      AFAIK all birds are totally immune to capsicum/capsaicin. They can chomp through a pile of habeneros and not notice anything even zesty.

      So all of us hot pepper lovers can thank birds for the very existence of hot peppers!

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    16. Re:Nail biting by turg · · Score: 1
      This is also true of other types of household cleaners - some even mention something along the lines of *with Bitrex* on the label. Look for this and, as the original poster suggested, your problems will be solved.

      Except that the reason Bitrex is added is usually because the product is extremely toxic. If you could get the Bitrex by itself, that would be okay -- which brings us back to the suggestion which started this thread.

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    17. Re:Nail biting by bersl2 · · Score: 1

      Nothing could keep me from biting my nails. Spicy doesn't work (I like spicy); bitter doesn't work (trust me, it doesn't); just plain nasty doesn't even work (I just spit the nails out, instead of sometimes eating them...).

      Of course, I still pick my nose from time to time, too... when you have as much mucus as I do, it becomes an aquired taste.

      If I can't find nail clippers, I have been known to bite my toe nails. I eat the skin from around my nails, as well.

      Probably the only thing that would keep me from doing these things would be shock treatment.

      Ain't habits wonderful?

    18. Re:Nail biting by jc42 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Funny that we got a cluster of comments about birds eating hot peppers. The ufl.edu article was interesting, but I noticed that they reported their test peppers being eaten mostly by a single species of bird.

      It's not really known whether all birds find hot peppers tasty. It wouldn't be surprising if this were limited mostly to New World birds, since that's where peppers evolved. We have a conure who loves hot peppers, but conures are from South America, so that's not too useful as an example. However, we also have two cockatiels, and they also like hot peppers. They are Australian, and are somewhat of an outlier among parrots. So they are useful support for an "all birds are immune to capsaicin" hypothesis.

      Actually, it's probably not true that they can't taste capsaicin. It's obvious that all of our parrots like hot peppers better than sweet peppers. So there's a good chance that they can taste the capsaicin, and they like the taste. Part of recent research has shown that capsaicin attacks the same mammal nerves that report heat, but this doesn't happen in birds. So it's calling them "hot" isn't just a metaphor; the capsaicin is literally triggering your heat sensors. It's likely that, for birds, capsaicin has a taste, although it doesn't produce a "hot" effect. At least some birds, especially parrots, seem to like whatever taste it has.

      A bit of irony here is that hot peppers have recently been spread all over the planet, by a mammal. The peppers' nefarious scheme to scare off mammals was a dismal failure with us, to the peppers' benefit. We have three pots of small, hot peppers in the house. Most of the fruit end up as bird food, though we use a few of them ourselves in cooking. One of the pots is in full bloom right now.

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  2. Problem pets by nastyphil · · Score: 5, Funny

    eat your cat.

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    1. Re:Problem pets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This would explain why Asia is so high-tech. They aren't being held back by cats chowing down on their cables.

      1337-Azn: "You eat my cable I eat you Mr. Kitty! hahahah!"
      1337-Kat: "Meow"
      * 1337-Kat eats Azn's cables
      1337-Kat: "Meorghhhhhhhhhhh!"
      1337-Azn: Itadakimasu!!!
      * 1337-Azn eats 1337-Kat.

  3. Give your cat some cables by samjam · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Give your cat some cables of its own.
    Hang a few up, coil a few around it's cat box.

    It should be easier to direct the cat to its own cables than keep it away altogether.

    Sam

    1. Re:Give your cat some cables by kinnell · · Score: 4, Funny
      Give your cat some cables of its own.
      Hang a few up, coil a few around it's cat box.

      Exactly. If these cables are connected to a high tension power supply, your cat will soon learn to stop chewing cables.

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    2. Re:Give your cat some cables by grimace1969 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Doesn't this just reinforce bad behaviour? how does the cat know that its ok to chew on "cat" cables not "your" cables?

      -G

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    3. Re:Give your cat some cables by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. If these cables are connected to a high tension power supply, your cat will soon learn to stop chewing cables.

      Electric chairs are 2000 volts. :-)

    4. Re:Give your cat some cables by samjam · · Score: 1

      The same way the cat is taught that some things are only done in the litter tray!

      Sam

    5. Re:Give your cat some cables by facelessnumber · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Doesn't this just reinforce bad behaviour? how does the cat know that its ok to chew on "cat" cables not "your" cables?

      I guess you don't have a cat. =) The notion that the cat will learn "right" or "wrong," "good" or "bad" behavior is wishful thinking at best. This idea applies to dogs just fine, since they're more likely to see people as some kind of an authority figure. Cats however will think of you as an equal if you're lucky and worthy, and as a contemptible servant to be rewarded, punished and tolerated as the cat sees fit if you're not lucky. This person's cat will be chewing on cables until chewing on cables ceases to entertain it, and not before. Dogs want to make master happy and will respond to discipline, whereas cats want you to make master happy, and they will be the ones doing the disciplne...

    6. Re:Give your cat some cables by andy@petdance.com · · Score: 1

      I don't know about the cats, but when our dog started chewing on blankets and sheets in the bedroom, we gave him his own blanket. He now chews on that one, and only that one. He knows it's his blanket.

    7. Re:Give your cat some cables by schon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I guess you don't have a cat.

      Speaking as someone who has had cats (I had my last one since he was a kitten, he passed away last spring at 16 years old) I can say you're full of it.

      The notion that the cat will learn "right" or "wrong," "good" or "bad" behavior is wishful thinking at best.

      No, it's not. Cats are social creatures, just like dogs - just because they display their sociality in different manner than dogs, or that some cat owners decide to reward thier cat's dominant behaviour (which is misinterpreted as anti-social tendencies), doesn't mean that the social instincts are not there.

      Everything in your post shows that you are the type of person who rewards your cat for displaying dominant behaviour, and allows the cat to be dominant. Many people with small dogs frequently have the same problems, typically because they tend to 'baby' smaller animals.

      This idea applies to dogs just fine, since they're more likely to see people as some kind of an authority figure

      This is complete bullshit. It's just as easy to have an improperly trained dog as an improperly trained cat. I see it all the time - especially with small dogs.

      Cats however will think of you as an equal if you're lucky and worthy, and as a contemptible servant to be rewarded, punished and tolerated as the cat sees fit if you're not lucky.

      Luck has nothing to do with it. In both of the cases you mention, you're simply not establishing dominance, and so the animal (seeing no leader present) decides to become the leader.

      This person's cat will be chewing on cables until chewing on cables ceases to entertain it, and not before.

      Again, only if he allows the cat to be dominant.

      Dogs want to make master happy and will respond to discipline

      First, dogs only want to make 'master' happy if the master properly enforces his/her role as pack leader.

      Second, discipline is not the way to cure any animal (dog or cat) of unacceptable behavior. A good trainer will use other methods.

    8. Re:Give your cat some cables by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Cats - too stupid to learn their place in the animal kingdom

      Humans - too stupid so we put up with cats.

    9. Re:Give your cat some cables by synergystruck · · Score: 1

      Apparently you think cats actually see the difference between yours and theirs. Cat owners know that what belongs to the cat is the cats and what belongs to everyone else is still the cats.

    10. Re:Give your cat some cables by synergystruck · · Score: 1

      It's our own fault, thousands of years ago we worshiped cats like gods...they just never forgot it.

    11. Re:Give your cat some cables by facelessnumber · · Score: 3, Funny

      Bah... Tell ya what... Come over and establish dominance with my cat, and I'll give you a ride to the emergency room when he makes you his bitch. =)

    12. Re:Give your cat some cables by KhanAFur · · Score: 4, Funny

      I have to disagree...My cat has bitten through live power cords any number of times and still continues to do it.

      I think electrocution has just made him dumber.

    13. Re:Give your cat some cables by palutke · · Score: 1


      I think electrocution has just made him dumber.


      Or tougher.

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    14. Re:Give your cat some cables by gmhowell · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A good trainer will use other methods.

      No, a good trainer will recognize the both reward and discipline have their places. Each is but a tool, with a proper use for each. Much like parenting. But then again, I bet you think a 'time out' is a cureall.

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    15. Re:Give your cat some cables by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      Cat owners know that what belongs to the cat is the cats and what belongs to everyone else is still the cats.

      Reminds me of this joke:

      What is a Cat?

      1. Cats do what they want.
      2. They rarely listen to you.
      3. They're totally unpredictable.
      4. When you want to play, they want to be alone.
      5. When you want to be alone, they want to play.
      6. They expect you to cater to their every whim.
      7. They're moody.
      8. They leave hair everywhere.
      CONCLUSION: They're tiny women in little fur coats.

      (And so as to provide something for the 0.00002% of slashdot that is female....)

      What is a Dog?

      1. Dogs spend all day sprawled on the most comfortable piece of furniture in the house.
      2. They can hear a package of food opening half a block away, but don't hear you when you're in the same room.
      3. They can look dumb and lovable all at the same time.
      4. They growl when they are not happy.
      5. When you want to play, they want to play.
      6. When you want to be alone, they want to play.
      7. They leave their toys everywhere.
      8. They do disgusting things with their mouths and then try to give you a kiss.
      9. They go right for your crotch as soon as they meet you.
      CONCLUSION: They're tiny men in little fur coats.

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    16. Re:Give your cat some cables by turg · · Score: 1
      I think electrocution has just made him dumber.

      Seeing as "electrocution" means "death by electric shock," I would expect that what you say is true :-)

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    17. Re:Give your cat some cables by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      IIRC, I remembered someone had a goat that never stayed where she was supposed to be. She jumped in between their fence and the neighbor's electric fence, and got electrocuted for two hours. She stopped going in places she shouldn't be since then. However, her offspring were the same way, except (IIRC again) none have jumped between the fences.

    18. Re:Give your cat some cables by E_elven · · Score: 1

      I dream of a thousand cats..

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    19. Re:Give your cat some cables by sjwt · · Score: 1

      In soviet russia thousands of years ago
      cats worshiped you.

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  4. Cat food by tedDancin · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's only one solution to this: Place some cat food on/over one of the power cables connecting your PC. Problem solved.

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    1. Re:Cat food by R2.0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ironically enough, that's sort of how my wife got her cat. She found a little black kitten screaming her head outside off on Halloween and took her in. She asked around, and later that evening the neighbors got home and said "Oh yeah, she's ours. We found her foaming at the mouth this morning, so we threw her out. No, we don't really want her back; she tends to chew on power cords."

      Per the vet, 1)kittens chew on power cords, and 2) when the get a jolt, they will drool and "foam."

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    2. Re:Cat food by secolactico · · Score: 1

      We found her foaming at the mouth this morning, so we threw her out. No, we don't really want her back; she tends to chew on power cords

      Damn, that's cruel! Were they planning on never taking it back? Geez, they could at least try to place her in another home or euthanize her.

      I'm not a cat fan (my father didn't like them and now that I live by myself I'm too lazy to keep anything more demanding than a cactus) but if you get a pet, you can't simply throw it away like you would a faulty appliance.

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  5. Have you considered... by AlexeiMachine · · Score: 0

    ...taxidermy?

  6. outsource by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    outsource the cat

  7. Get another cat? by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Suggestion: Your cat is trying to say he or she is not happy. Get another cat so that he will have something to do while you are at work. They will chase each other around and make noises like a herd of cattle, but they won't chew cables.

    1. Re:Get another cat? by truffle · · Score: 3, Informative

      I have two cats and a bunch of computers in my one bedroom apartment. Cats don't bother cables. I'll support the parent, a second cat could improve things.

      If you get second cat, a kitten of the opposite gender is usually a good pick (of course make sure your cat is spayed or neutered first).

      You could also try bitter apple it supposedly is for dogs but apparently works for cats. I would need about 10 galons of the stuff to cover all my cables so I didn't bother trying.

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    2. Re:Get another cat? by martinde · · Score: 1

      Not all cats want to belong to a "pack". Getting another cat could make your cat more unhappy (particularly if it's more than a couple of years old and has been living along that whole time.) I'd recommend this book to all cat owners. It addresses many aspects of cats, including their psychology and physical health, how to properly train them, etc. (And how to introduce new cats into your home without traumatizing your existing cat.) ObDisclaimer: It's been a long time since I've had a cat.

    3. Re:Get another cat? by facelessnumber · · Score: 1

      Yes. Get a second cat. One who doesn't like to chew cables, but is encouraged to sleep where the cables are and doesn't like the other cat. Or hates the other cat, or hates Life, the Universe and Everything. This works great for me. I have three cats, a dog who chews everything, and assloads of cables. I don't even know where all of them go anymore. When the dog's in the house my old, huge, pissed-off, lard-ass cat goes on alert and he will cut her the hell up if she goes near his nest of cables. Screw these ideas about putting capstun, pepper sauce, soap, etc. on your cables. Hell, put catnip on them, a pillow, food dish, everything you need to make an old mean-ass cat think that's the most comfortable place in the house. Problem solved. Just watch your feet and don't invade his personal space when you're sitting at his desk.

    4. Re:Get another cat? by TenaciousPimple · · Score: 4, Informative
      One of the things neither above post considers is the troubles that another cat can add.

      A 1BR apt probably doesn't have room for another cat. Also the stress of adding another cat can lead to a ton of other problems, at least in the short term. Litterbox avoidance being one of the nastier ones.

    5. Re:Get another cat? by cavemanf16 · · Score: 1

      Bitter apple doesn't seem to work on my cats, but they have each other to play with so they don't chew cords too much.

      Now my puppy: he HATES bitter apple! Of course, he chews on EVERYTHING, so coating everything in gallons of bitter apple for me is also not an option.

    6. Re:Get another cat? by LordNimon · · Score: 1

      Mod the parent up. I've had lots of cats in my time, and adding another cat usually causes problems, not solves them.

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    7. Re:Get another cat? by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      One way to avoid this problem is to remember the only mathematics that applies to cats:

      number of litterboxes=number of cats + 1

      And place them in different parts of the house.

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    8. Re:Get another cat? by Frizzle+Fry · · Score: 1
      Your cat is trying to say he or she is not happy

      By chewing on cables? The cat is just bored and is playing because he is curious and that's what cat's do. It's possible that if he gets another cat, that will keep the first cat from chewing on the cables, but I don't agree that the cat "is trying to say" anything. He's just playing/ exploring, not actively trying to communicate something.
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    9. Re:Get another cat? by Bombcar · · Score: 1

      As per a Good Definition

      Kitten, (N): A small homicidal muffin on legs; affects human sensibilities to the point of endowing the most wanton and ruthless acts of destruction with near-mythical overtones of cuteness. Not recommended for beginners. Get at least two.

    10. Re:Get another cat? by parvati · · Score: 1

      [I have two cats and a bunch of computers in my one bedroom apartment. Cats don't bother cables. I'll support the parent, a second cat could improve things.]

      I have FIVE cats, and one of them still chews on cables. Some of them just enjoy the activity. My solution was to wrap everything in electrical tape--cats apparently dislike the taste, because that totally stopped the chewing. Also, unlike double-sided tape, electrical tape won't attract dust and fur.

    11. Re:Get another cat? by jjshoe · · Score: 1

      Two cats, kitten loves to chew cords. Like everything else it was a phase.

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    12. Re:Get another cat? by sjwt · · Score: 1

      try the simple solution..

      put the bitter apple in the puppys mouth,
      now he wont chew on anything..

      just rembere to leave the tap runing..

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  8. Cat toys. by NotoriousQ · · Score: 1

    Give your cat plenty to claw and chew on. Pet stores typically have things that the cat will find a lot more pleasant. If not, make some of your own. In my experience thick, strandy rope is the favorite for cats to claw on, and they prefer insulation of wire (metal removed, assuming it does not completely go soft.

    But then again VGA is a huge cable, with metal shielding, so YMMV.

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  9. Double-sided tape by MacBrave · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Wrap you cables in double-sided tape? Cat hate the sticky feeling on their paws. It worked when our cats were getting in the habit of clawing our screen windows...........

    1. Re:Double-sided tape by cavemanf16 · · Score: 1

      My wife tried that with the kitchen counter one time with our first cat. [she loves to jump up on the counter (the cat, not my wife) and scout around for bits of tomato-based product] It didn't work too well. We came home that day to find our cat with tape wrapped all the way around her head - it's a good thing she didn't manage to tape her own mouth and nose shut! She was pretty pissed at my wife for putting the tape on the counter...

    2. Re:Double-sided tape by iansmith · · Score: 1

      This works for almost all cats, but not one of mine.

      My cat loves tape. He eats it. Licks envelopes. Chews packing tape off packages I get. I can't leave tape of any kind out. he chews on the rolls.

      As for the cable chewing, I'll repeat what others said. That is not normal. Your cat needs attention. Anotehr cat, more toys or just more play time with you should fix it.

    3. Re:Double-sided tape by RevRagnarok · · Score: 1

      NOT MINE!!!

      My cat is retarded. She LOVES the taste of adhesive. Any kind she can get. She loves the USPS Priority cardboard mail boxes - that strip is SO tasty. I cannot leave the packing tape with the handle on it in sight or she will lick the tape, and if she goes long enough she will barf. The other day she was paying too much attention to the pile of mail on my floor. I look and see she was licking the sticky edge of a bubblewrap envelope. Ew!

      - RR

      PS. She never chewed any cable. If she were to hit my expensive component video cables, she'd be flying out the back door!

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    4. Re:Double-sided tape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actualy, my cat has a particluar fondness for chewing on sticky things, so I don't know about that one.

    5. Re:Double-sided tape by cswan · · Score: 1

      Ditto here, too. One of our cats has a penchant for chewing on plastic and adhesives. They seem to work as a deterrent for treading (they don't like it on their paws), but I guess the taste, to some dumb cats, is appealing.

      Not sure about all cats, but mine also develops an allergic reaction to eating the plastics. The corners of her mouth get ulcers/acne, which has to be treated with a cream from the vet.

      So if I were to wrap all my cables in double-sided tape, I'm sure I'd come home to find every one of my cables chewed straight through.

  10. keep 'em out of reach. by beegle · · Score: 2, Informative

    I had a pet rabbit for a while, so I'm familiar with this problem.

    The obvious answer is either "get rid of the cat" or "lock up the cat when you're not watching it".

    Assuming you don't want to do that, make an effort to make cables unreachable. Use twist ties and adhesive hooks and loops to get rid of dangling cables or cables lying on the floor. Do your long cable runs along the upper edge of the wall. They make wire baskets that are designed for closet shelves. You can often use them (sometimes with re-bending) on desks to keep wires in a basket that's mostly out of the cat's reach. You can also use plastic containers (tupperware, rubbermaid, that sort of thing) with a few holes drilled in them to contain the rat's nest of cables. Just be sure to allow -some- air to escape.

    As far as equipment, think hard about a laptop. There's only a power cable to worry about -- no keyboard, mouse, etc. cables.

    Use those ugly cable protectors for everything that's left.

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    1. Re:keep 'em out of reach. by DougInthezoo · · Score: 1

      I had both a rabbit and cat who chewed on cables and ended up going the laptop route myself. I now have 4 chewed up laptop power cables that have more electrical tape on them than the original rubber coating. I'd get rid of the cat and rabbit in question, but that would require getting rid of the wife, which I'm not going to give up. So, I'm stuck.

  11. Feed it! by dpoulson · · Score: 2, Informative

    You could try feeding the cat, then it wouldn't be hungry and chew the cables!

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  12. my fathers solution ... by KMAPSRULE · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    SSS

    (Shoot, Shovel, Silence)

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    1. Re:my fathers solution ... by secolactico · · Score: 1

      (Shoot, Shovel, Silence)

      HA! Good one! The silence part if specially important if the animal in question is actually your SO's.

      I already warned my GF that she's not going to bring any of the pets she keeps over when we get married. She's probably going to, anyway, so I'm getting used to the idea by reading a lot of Garfield strips.

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    2. Re:my fathers solution ... by KMAPSRULE · · Score: 1

      Cat ?? What Cat??

      I can tell you from personal experiance Unless U are going to live somewhere that the lease prohibits pets, Its a battle you will not win. My Mother in law takes care of 3 Cats that my wife will bring to live with us as soon as we can afford a house and can move outta the apartment. No amount of pleading, threatening ...etc is gonna stop it. **sigh** 3 cats **sigh**

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  13. Tape it. by TwistedGreen · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is a rather low-tech solution, but cover your cables in tape. When my cats figured it would be a good idea to gnaw on the 120VAC power lines running through our (not yet finished) walls, we stuck some tape on them (sticky side out) and it promptly stopped. Double-sided tape would work well for this.

    I guess it loses all its fun when your face ends up stuck to what you're chewing on. Though maybe if I just let them bite through the cable would've stopped the chewing as well. ;)

  14. 9 Lives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just wait a little longer or, if you want to help the situation, buy some seriously power-hungry equipment. A cat only has nine lives and yours must have used up most of them, chewing through unknown cables and all.

  15. Lemon Juice. by hookedup · · Score: 4, Informative


    A buddy of mine has a cat that loves to attack/claw/chew wires. He put a little sprinkle of lemon juice on the wires, cat doesnt go near them anymore.

    And it just may make your office area smell nicer.

    1. Re:Lemon Juice. by der_joachim · · Score: 5, Informative

      A more smelly alternative is the stuff you get from old coffee filters. Cats absolutely hate the smell. It kept the cats out of our garden and who does not want a computer that smells like coffee? :-)

      der Joachim

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    2. Re:Lemon Juice. by brainthought · · Score: 2, Informative

      I can attest to the lemon juice. I used to use orange extract myself, mixed with water. I'd spray it in an old windex bottle in the general areas I didn't want the cat to go like behind the TV and under the computer desk. Just make sure your not spraying your devices. Worked like a charm. Apparently from what I've read, cats hate citrus smells. I would even use lemon sented 409 cleaner if people were coming over and I wanted the cat off the couches, that would work for a day or two until the smell of the couch took back over.

  16. Mark your territory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I suppose you could pee on all your cables and the like. You know, "marking your territory" so to speak.

    If you choose to go that route, you might want to make sure you unplug the stuff first. It would give a whole new meaning to "fire in the hole" if you know what I mean...

    1. Re:Mark your territory by Maskirovka · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I suppose you could pee on all your cables and the like. You know, "marking your territory" so to speak.

      This would probably result in the cat peeing and shitting on the cables.

    2. Re:Mark your territory by sc00p18 · · Score: 1

      You ever seen that mythbusters episode where they peed on the tracks? Yeah, that was a good one.

    3. Re:Mark your territory by Frizzle+Fry · · Score: 1

      No. I imagine the fact that they did this means that doing so isn't harmful? Why not?

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    4. Re:Mark your territory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      No. I imagine the fact that they did this means that doing so isn't harmful? Why not?

      Urine was not a sufficiently conductive substance. In order to get the current up to the dummy, it was also required that the dummy be barefoot, standing on water, and touching the non-electrified rail at the same time.

  17. Cable tidy? by neillewis · · Score: 1

    IKEA sells a cable tidy kit (I can't find it on their website, although it's shown in some of the catalog photos) containing a hard plastic spiral that goes round cables, this might not be as appetising for your cat. You could also reposition your cables so they aren't as easily accessible, or tape them down.

    Cats seem to know exactly where you don't want them to be, and will invariably end up there. Good luck!

    1. Re:Cable tidy? by Teddy+Beartuzzi · · Score: 1
      IKEA sells a cable tidy kit (I can't find it on their website, although it's shown in some of the catalog photos) containing a hard plastic spiral that goes round cables

      I've had one of these in my closet for years. It's called Montera, but a search at Ikea returns a different product. Never got around to installing it, my 20 year old cat doesn't go near cables.

  18. vacuum hose by Drunken_Jackass · · Score: 1

    A cheap solution that might work for you is a length of corrugated vacuum hose (you can pick that up at Walmart or Target).

    Just cut it in half lengthwise, and it makes a pretty good wrapper for cable management. It's cheap, effective, and looks pretty good.

    And oh yeah - get rid of the cat.

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  19. Pheremones in a can by SolemnDragon · · Score: 3, Informative
    They sell pet repellent. Take the cables outside, spray them along the length but not at the ends, and then bring them in and set them up. Your pet may avoid the whole area after that.

    Another option is to make them inaccessible- run them through cardboard tubes. Of course, if your cat shreds cardboard, this won't work. So maybe taping something around them- plastic panels or something?

    The options are simple:

    render them unappetising

    render them inaccessible

    render them indestructible

    i put them in the order that i thought most likely to work- my cat hates the pet repellent, so the area under my desk gets treated.

    let us know what works!

    1. Re:Pheremones in a can by facelessnumber · · Score: 3, Funny

      Don't know about that "pet repellent" stuff... My cats don't care about it, and my dog drinks it.

  20. A drop in the bucket... by in10se · · Score: 5, Funny

    Did you read the post - he's only lost 300 CDN. That's only about $2.50 USD, so what's the big deal?

    TWAJS

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    1. Re:A drop in the bucket... by {8_8} · · Score: 1

      For those who were wondering:

      As of 2-27-2004, 300 Canadian equals $225.90 (Exchange rate is 0.7530).

      Yes, I understand parent was a joke.

    2. Re:A drop in the bucket... by jmt9581 · · Score: 1

      He's in Canada you insensitive clod, the cost of living and income levels are way lower there.

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    3. Re:A drop in the bucket... by KingKurly · · Score: 1

      ... a reply from the future? Crazy!

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    4. Re:A drop in the bucket... by Frizzle+Fry · · Score: 1

      If this guy can find out what exchange rates will be in the future, the obvious solution is to make a killing the currencies market with his information and use it to buy new cables (and some toys for the cat).

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    5. Re:A drop in the bucket... by Bush+Pig · · Score: 1

      There's these things called time zones. You may have learnt about them at school ...

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    6. Re:A drop in the bucket... by {8_8} · · Score: 1

      Stupid typos. Date was supposed to read 2-24-2004.

    7. Re:A drop in the bucket... by Frizzle+Fry · · Score: 1

      Yes, but we didn't learn about the ones where it is more than a day and a half ahead of the date/time here.

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  21. Conditioning by !3ren · · Score: 1

    High voltage, low amperage dummy cables.
    After a few chews through it they will just not like being electrocuted any more.

    Maybe a scratching post with something for them to chew on.

  22. You and your cat have a relation problem by Tux2000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Cats usually don't chew on cables, so this is an indicator that something is wrong. And it's not your cables.

    It might be an indicator that the two of you have a relation problem. The cat may want more attention. Especially if the cat does not go out of the house, you are the only one "social contact" for the cat. Play with the cat, pet the cat, crawl the cat. Or if you don't think that you have the time to do so, give away your cat to someone who cares for it; and get your self a cat doll.

    Maybe your cat is a real hunter but has no other prey than those dangling cables. Get or make some cat toys. Remember: "Everything not nailed down is a cat toy." You just have to make sure that your cat toys are more attractive than your hardware.

    A last idea, to cure the symptoms but not the disease: place your cables in flexible tubes. IKEA has flexible tubes in black and white that can be wrapped around the cables without disconnecting them. Unless your cat can look onto your table while standing on the floor, it will have a hard time chewing through those tubes.

    Tux2000

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    1. Re:You and your cat have a relation problem by TJmoney · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Cats usually don't chew on cables, so this is an indicator that something is wrong.

      Every cat i'v ever known loves to play with anything resembling a string. While a VGA cable may or may not be too thick for that description, things like speaker or mouse cables are a perfectly natural thing to attract a cat's attention. Bundling all your cables with simple wire ties may result in somthing too big for the cat to have any fun with. Possibly an alternative string would do the trick. My ex's cat had an elasticy string from a christmas present that it played with constantly, and was aparently very careful not to loose since it had the same string for over a year. It seemed to have quite an attachment to that silly piece of string, and never messed with any other wires in the house. Maybe the same would work for your cat.

    2. Re:You and your cat have a relation problem by Jorkapp · · Score: 5, Informative

      I have had 4 cats over the course of my life. 3 male, 1 female. Now, I only have 1 male, 1 female (One of the males passed away in January, the other passed away in 1996).

      A few recommendations for toys and other novelties for your cat.

      Pipecleaners. (Some) Cats will mistake a pipecleaner for a rodent, and will run over, pounce, jump on, hunt, or just play with a pipecleaner.

      Small plush toys. Some cats just love chasing after things. If I throw a certain plush toy down a hallway, one of my cats will run after it, pick it up, and bring it back. Experiment with this one.

      Spray on (Liquid) Cat-Nip. Be careful with this stuff. If you spray it on a toy, don't spray too much on. Don't spray it into the air either.

      Pure (Solid) Cat-Nip. Give your cat a little cat-nip every now and again. They will love you to bits.

      Kitty Treats. These are a bit of a grey area for me. Some of my cats went nuts over these things, while some just didn't really care. Flavor is also an issue with these. One of my cats likes beef, while the other likes chicken.

      Love and Affection. Proven. Two examples:

      One of my cats is an 8 or 9 year old female cat. When we adopted her (she was a 1 or 2 year old stray - to this day we still do not known her age), she would not go near anyone (including family members and other cats), and was quite hostile. Years later, after much love and affection, she has mellowed out, but is still kind of anti-social.

      Another one of my cats was adopted as a kitten. Since I was home more often than other family members, I was responsible for this little kitten's well being. I often spent hours just petting this little fluff-ball - only for him to claw my face off in overexcitement - but to this day (3 years later) he still prefers my lap to others.

      Get another cat. Very grey area. I've seen this work, and I've seen this fail. Tow examples:

      When I adopted the female cat, I thought she would bond with my existing male cat. I thought wrong. They were constantly at a distance.

      Then again, when I adopted the little kitten, the older male cat took a parental role. He often cleaned the little kitten, and the kitten often returned the cleaning. Over the years they became good friends. Often they would clean eachother, play together, and even eat together. When the older cat fell ill, he would just sit by his side. No cleaning, no playing, no visiting me in bed. When the older cat finally passed away, his friend was very upset (He cried out during the night, he would attack me, etc).

      I suppose to conclude, my best advice would be to experiment. Start small and work your way up. Don't do anything too drastic (like get another cat) until you feel you are ready and are confident its the right solution.

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  23. Try your local petstore by $exyNerdie · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is not really a /. question. Your local petstore will help you solve this in under $10. Just get any pet repellant spray like bitter apple and spray it on the needed area for a few days. Your pet will the idea that this area/items have the worst taste and it's better to chew on your shoes than to chew on cables sprayed with Bitter Apple....

  24. The best solution by Grab · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Get rid of the damn cat. Seriously. If you've got a one-room apartment you have no business owning a cat. It hasn't got room to exercise in the apartment, and it's seriously antisocial to let it out on the streets to crap in everyone else's gardens.

    (The standard cat owner argument: "Oh, but cats are wild animals and do that." Yeah, and I'll buy a bear and let it run loose so it can maul your kid sister to death. Bears are wild animals and do that. It doesn't mean having a bear as a pet is a good idea, now does it?)

    Grab.

    1. Re:The best solution by Admiral1973 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I can't believe that people have modded this post insightful. I would guess that the poster and the mods were not pet owners. We need a mod tag for "insensitive." A pet is an integral part of someone's life. You wouldn't get rid of a child because it chewed on something in your house, would you?

      My wife and I have three cats in a two-bedroom apartment and they have plenty of room to run around. However, we used to live in a tiny one-bedroom (and it was only called a 1 BR because of the door between the two rooms) and the cats had lots of fun chasing each other in the limited space we had. My suggestion would not be to get rid of the one cat because of space, but add a second cat to give the first one a playmate. That should distract the cats from the computer. Our cats enjoy playing with each other more than they do with us, and they leave my computer equipment alone. One of my cats does like to nibble on my office laptop's AC adapter cable, so I've made a habit of hiding the cable under the couch when I'm not using it. When I am using it and he starts nibbling, I discipline him to try, usually in vain, to teach him that chewing the cable is bad. It's not a perfect system but I'd rather replace cables than get rid of my cats.

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    2. Re:The best solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I discipline him to try, usually in vain

      You started too late. You did not discipline them when they were kittens.

      Cats need to learn that there are things you just don't do. Our cats live by one rule: "DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES do anything to piss off the male human."

      I bet your cat wakes you up to eat breakfast, too.

    3. Re:The best solution by justMichael · · Score: 1
      I discipline him to try, usually in vain, to teach him that chewing the cable is bad.

      Have you tried a spray bottle of water?

      We have 2 cats, they both run as soon as they see you reach for the bottle. After he gets a wet butt a few times he may realize that what he is doing is a bad idea.

      Then again he may just look at you thinking "I'll get you back for that", you know the look.
  25. Hi. I'm Troy McClure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Hi. I'm Troy McClure. You might remember me from such gear-and-pet films as "Tom and Logitech: A Tale of Cat and Mouse in the Tech Age" and "Fluffy the USB-enabled Hamster"

    1. Re:Hi. I'm Troy McClure by JavaLord · · Score: 1

      "Fluffy the USB-enabled Hamster" Is that the sequal to Kitty-Kitty Parellel port? Here is a pic from that show...

      Scroll down to see Kitty!

  26. Yucky! by _aa_ · · Score: 1

    they make this stuff. I tried it once, and it tasted like a 9v battery.

    1. Re:Yucky! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I tried it once, and it tasted like a 9v battery. "

      Are you in the habit of tasting 9v batteries? That might explain alot :)

  27. Get rid of your computer by zero_offset · · Score: 1

    While most people seem to be of the "get rid of your cat" mindset, I'm taking a fresh approach and suggesting that you get rid of your computer. That way you solve your problem AND ours at the same time.

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  28. Kill the cat by Andy+Smith · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    No really, it's fun and it works.

    Also someone's idea of giving the cat other cables to play with is terrible. All that would do is teach the cat that cables are something to play with and s/he'd do it more often.

    Believe it or not, and I assume most cat owners won't believe me, I've found that the best way to 'train' my cat against unwanted behaviour is to simply move her away from whatever she's doing. For example, I hate it when she goes outside and then comes back in and jumps up on top of the television -- wet paws! So every time she went near the television I would tease her until she ran away. Every time she got as far as jumping on to it, I picked her up and didn't let her go for a few minutes, which of course she hated. I don't think she's been on the TV in months. Hey my cat's a C-list celeb!

  29. capsicum by confused+one · · Score: 1
    the oil in hot peppers... Unless your cat has a taste for the cayenne, coat your cables in some capsicum oil or cayenne pepper or habaneros, all available at your local grocer.

    It'll only try once more... : )

  30. bizzare by grocer · · Score: 1

    We have three cats and they live in the basement...and I've never had a problem with them messing with my computers down there. First, like others have said, it's a pet-owner problem...the cat needs more attention either petting or playing with. Second, try aluminum foil around/over cables...cats hate the feel of foil on their paws and will avoid the area entirely after awhile (at which point the foil can be removed)

  31. Mod Parent Up by Spokehedz · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is exactly right. The problem is that your cat is trying to communicate with you. Its basically saying, "You spend a lot of time in here, so therefore I should destroy what is taking you away from me--so you can play with me instead!" Getting another cat will undoutedbly take its attention away from the cables behind your computer, and instead focus on the other animal in the apartment.

    The other solution is to (gasp!) actually play with your cat. I mean, how hard is it to get a laser pointer and send your cat tearing about the place like a nitro-funnycar? Might I suggest the Green Laser Pointer from Thinkgeek.com?

    Or you could always call Confuse-A-Cat LTD...

    1. Re:Mod Parent Up by geoswan · · Score: 1
      Sorry, someone has already patented the technique of using a laser pointer to play with your cat. FWIW, I got two cats, sisters, who got lots of attention. And yet one chewed cables and one didn't. Some plastics are made from animal fats, I am told, and they like the taste.

      My solution was even more unsightly than yours. When garden hose was on sale I bought a couple of rolls, cut it in appropriate lengths, slit it down the middle, and put my important cables inside. It looks like hell. But you are a bachelor anyhow, right?

  32. Cats... Blah! by DenniRuz · · Score: 1

    Giving the cat it's own cables to chew on will show the cat that it's ok to chew cables.. My recommendations are as follows-

    1- Sell the cat to a chinese restaurant (have them save the skin- Cat fur would make a nice pair of fuzzy slippers...)

    or the recomended option--
    2- Go to a Pet's Mart and get this sour apple flavored goo they sell in a tube just for this purpose and apply some to any cables you don't want the cat to chew-- Works like a charm and if you really want to, you can still keep the cat.

  33. You think you've got problems? by ptomblin · · Score: 1

    I've got cable chewing birds. Over the years, they've chewed through innumerable headphone and speaker cables. One of them chewed through a mouse cord and ruined the PS/2 ports on that computer - I had to use a serial mouse. And worse than all that, they give off tons of dust that clogs up power supplies and the fins of heat sinks.

    I don't let them run around the computer desks any more, and I bought a large HEPA filter to try and keep down the dust. Unfortunately the cooling fans on my main computer seem to have more power than the HEPA filter, so the prevailing air currents go from the bird cage to the computer to the filter, instead of the other way around.

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    1. Re:You think you've got problems? by jobugeek · · Score: 1

      My bird wouldn't chew cables, it would chew off the buttons on my remotes. For a while all my remotes had nothing but little stubs of plastic left and I had no clue which button did what.

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    2. Re:You think you've got problems? by ptomblin · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah, I forgot that one of the birds loves the escape key on my laptop. I'll be typing away, and suddenly she'll come over and grab the escape key and run away with in her mouth. Very cute, but annoying if you're in vi.

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    3. Re:You think you've got problems? by Heroic+Salmon · · Score: 1

      Nice tiels. :)

      Parrots are even more of a handful. We have a relatively small parrot (a pionus), and him chewing on our "gear" is a minor problem compared to him eating the friggin house and furniture. He really likes to whittle away at the tops of doorframes and windows.

      I showed my girlfriend this discussion and she replied with the following truisms:

      1. Parrots like spicy things, including hot peppers. They also like lemon juice, bitter apples, aluminum foil, and toxic chemicals.
      2. Parrots are tiny and they can fly, so they can get anywhere your cables are.
      3. Parrots don't mind sticky tape. In fact, sticky tape is just an additional source of amusement. AFTER eating through the tape and cables, the parrot can then walk around wiping its sticky-tape-beak all over your couch.
      4. A parrot will eat through your cable cover and then eat through the cable too. If there's a bookcase in front of the cable, it will eat through the bookcase, and then eat through the cable.
      5. If you give your parrots its own cable to chew on, it will immediately assume that ALL the cables in the house are really an ingenious bird toy and will try to attack any human that touches one.

      I can't imagine a large bird like a macaw. You would need to have a set off portion of your home just for the bird.

    4. Re:You think you've got problems? by jmertic · · Score: 1

      I have a umbrella cockatoo that lives in my office with my two machines. He's been pretty good about things ( once he got out of his cage and chewed up the wheel off a MS Intellimouse, that's about it ), but the dust is the problem. I wipe down everythingin the room with a damp cloth at least once a week, blow the dust out of my machines, and bath him at least once every two weeks ( in the shower, he's scared of squirt bottles, with my wife and I use to our advantage ;-> ) and that helps keep the dust down. We also keep him well stocked with wood and rope toys and try to take him out of his cage once a day for 2-3 hours, or else he get cranky and lets himself out for a tour of the house.

      We also have 3 Dogs ( Terrier Mix, English Springer Spaniel, Golden Retriever ). I made a makeshift bed out of old blankets in my office and one of them ( usually the Terrier ) lays on that and naps, while the other two will chew on Nylabones or Dog Toys and keep themselves happy. Granted our dogs are pretty lazy and like to lay around, so YMMV.

  34. Forget the gear! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How do I keep the cat from peeing on all my porn mags?

  35. Cat mentality by Bushcat · · Score: 4, Funny
    Cats are tangentially smart to humans. Our cat had a litter box which he dutifully used until he understood there was a big wide world out there. So my better half (and I use the term loosely) decided the litter box would make a great flower box. So she put it outside, filled it with earth and plants, and waited for spring.

    We now have a cat that shits in flower boxes, plant pots, anything that looks like a plant pot, and anything with a picture of a flower on it.

  36. First off, you should have got a different monitor by rthille · · Score: 1

    One without an attached VGA cable. Cables go bad all the time for all kinds of reasons. Sometimes you want a longer cable that the monitor came with.
    On the cat, well I haven't had trouble with our puppy chewing on cables since she got the juice out of a 12v line running to the hub at work.

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  37. Had a cat that did a similar thing by Mycroft_514 · · Score: 1

    once we allowed him access to the outside, he stopped attacking the cables. Of course he moved up to lizards, birds, and snakes.

    I think the last snake he went after though was the one that got him in the shoulder. (Not poisonious, fortunately, but he had a sore shoulder for weeks).

    And once my dog got to taste a 3.5 inch floppy, he lost interest in them.

  38. More attractive Cable Protector by Gnascher · · Score: 2, Informative

    Perhaps the Snap-On cable protectors are unsightly, but there are more attractive solutions.

    I picked up some cable protectors from my local computer superstore that look quite nice. They are about the same diameter as a vacuum cleaner hose, and are split down the length.

    I just twist-tied all my cable runs together and then routed them inside the cable protector. It give a very clean, modern-looking solution.

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  39. Re:Double-sided tape - Mod Parent Up!!! by Inexile2002 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Double sided tape is definitely a solution. I have some friends who had a cat that was in the bad habit of knocking stuff off of shelves. They had a couple of things they didn't want to have to put away, but at the same time couldn't risk the cat destroying. Double sided tape worked perfectly and the cat eventually learned to stay away.

    However, other posters who have pointed out that your cat is bored and or otherwise upset are on the mark. Get some cat toys, including some catnip toys. Consider getting another cat, opposite gender and read pet advice sites for how to introduce a kitten to your adult cat.

    One thing though - don't try to punish the cat. The cat is doing this because it's unhappy, bored, frustrated etc. If you punish it, you just add something for the cat to be upset about. Oh, and I personally had great luck with my bored indoor cats by installing a bird feeder outside and keeping it stocked. It was like the cat version of television - they sit there for hours watching the birds.

  40. Trade in your cat for by jayrtfm · · Score: 3, Funny
  41. Product specifically for this by twoflower · · Score: 1

    Pet stores sell products specifically designed for this problem. The most common one is a "bitter apple" extract; you just apply it to the items you want your pet to avoid (cables, baseboards, whatever). It's similar to but far more effective than treating the surface with lemon juice, and it's not harmful to the animal.

    Any decent pet store will have these types of products. Find one with a knowledgable owner and ask him/her.

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    1. Re:Product specifically for this by cabingirl · · Score: 2, Informative
      Bitter Apple can work well for cats and dogs, but it isn't always effective for other pets who may enjoy the taste, such as rabbits.

      With rabbits, I use height to my advantage and just keep cords on top of the desk rather than dangling down below. I use split plastic tubing to cover the power cords plugged into the outlets. Sure, it doesn't look great, but rabbits are notorious about chewing on wiring, so I don't have much choice.

      Also, 3M makes adhesive cord keepers that are pretty nice. I use them at chair-rail height.

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    2. Re:Product specifically for this by twoflower · · Score: 1
      Bitter Apple can work well for cats and dogs, but it isn't always effective for other pets who may enjoy the taste, such as rabbits.
      Okay, that's good to know -- I actually have two house rabbits. I've never tried to use bitter apple with them, but I wouldn't have guessed they'd like the taste.
      ... rabbits are notorious about chewing on wiring
      I know. I've replaced phone cords a couple of times, the doorbell wires once, and had to replace the mains cord on a table lamp. Everything else is behind physical barriers :).
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  42. +5 Insightful by vrai · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Cats are hunters. They need lots of space for territory and lots of things to hunt. They are not indoor animals. You should only have a cat if they have access to the outside world - making them spend their entire lives inside is cruel beyond belief.

    My solution? Give the cat to someone with a garden and get a more docile animal that won't mind living indoors. Chinchillas, hamsters or rabbits are ideal for this. But not a cat.

    1. Re:+5 Insightful by KnightStalker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh, good idea. Recommend animals that MUST chew on things to prevent their teeth from growing too long. I don't know about chinchillas or hamsters (which I guess you normally keep in a cage), but rabbits chew on everything within reach of their nasty sharp pointy teeth. Might be some good advice for the cat as well here: Rabbit-proofing

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  43. Guard Dog by turgid · · Score: 1

    Get a dog to guard your gear. Cats are scared of dogs. Give the dog an old sock to chew.

  44. Get a dog?! by StRex · · Score: 1

    You're kidding, right? Because dogs never chew anything.... ;-)

    I've owned cats and dogs, and the chewing/scratching damage done by the cats is nothing compared to what one of my dogs has done. (And he's really not that bad.)

    Just two days ago I caught him laying down by a power strip, beginning to chew on the attached power bricks. As others have said, I was careful to not scold him for chewing. I moved the power strip away from him and immediately ran to get two of his favorite chew toys and brought them to him, and praised him when he started chewing them.

    He was bored and wanted to chew something. Telling him, "don't chew anything" ain't gonna cut it. However, telling him, "Chew this instead," is >99.99% effective. (Standard, obvious psychology stuff, but had to be said.)

    1. Re:Get a dog?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should have beat the shit out of him. I like using my steel-toed boots to kick 'em.

  45. Very Easy, But Can Be Illegal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    whenever the animal goes near the wires with ill-intent, hold it down and give it a thunk on the head. use an appropriate thunk as to scramble it's brains, but not kill the poor thing. i allow no beast near my wires.

  46. i sympathize by wiswaud · · Score: 2, Informative

    oh man, do i. i have 4 cats and 5 computers.
    one of them LOVES! phone cables for some reason.

    The best method is not to protect your stuff - that becomes ridiculous as the amount of crap you use grows. No, what you need to do is provide better targets. Observe what they prefer, and give it to them. They'll have a preference, i guarantee it. If it's VGA cables, then keep the ones they busted, and hang it somewhere they can play with it and gnaw it as much as they want.
    they should leave the new one alone.
    it works!

  47. Tried a lot myself... by Bravo_Two_Zero · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My oldest dog, Emma, then a 1-yr-old puppy, pulled all of the phone cable out from under our house. All of it. She found the box and went to work. Now that's dedication.

    We tried to keep Emma from jumping on our kitchen door by putting hot sauce (Texas Pete, Tabasco and a delightful Habanero sauce... in that order). That's how we found out that she likes hot sauce.

    I was driving my truck into our back yard to drop something off. With Georgia summers and no A/C, keeping the windows open is a must. Emma adores the truck. She just likes to sit in the bed while it's parked if we let her. My passenger window was open about 10 inches. She's a 45 lb dog. She jumped through the window opening and into the cab while I was rolling at about 2 mph into the back yard. These don't count the antics of the other three dogs or any of my now dearly departed cats.

    The moral of the story is that smart, determined or bored animals will do what they ain't supposed to do. We cured Emma's phone phreaking by getting her a dog. She was much happier with a playmate, and a lot of her energy went into playtime with brother Harry. It didn't cure everything, but having something to keep her interested made a huge difference.

    Cats are a tougher trick. Some just want to chew on stuff. Others won't even eat people food. The issue isn't as easy as getting them a playmate. Our best cat training method was a water gun. We couldn't be home every minute, but the water training seemed to take root really quickly. The best cat I ever had eventually learned the word "no."

    Pepper may be more effective with cats (white or plack powder... depending on your carpet color). Just sprinkle a little around the cables. A scratching post or cat playhouse may be useful, too (after all, you've already spent a lot of money).

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  48. Exactly! Mexican pearl of wisdom: by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 4, Informative

    Cut a small chili (the smaller and greener, the better, habaneros are particularly fiery) in half and rub it on your cables.

    I swear to $DEITY that your cat will not forget that one. Or he will start demanding curry dinner, in both cases, you win.

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    1. Re:Exactly! Mexican pearl of wisdom: by tsa · · Score: 3, Funny

      Don't rub your eyes after rubbing the cables with that stuff!

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    2. Re:Exactly! Mexican pearl of wisdom: by IthnkImParanoid · · Score: 2, Funny

      And wash your hands before you go to the bathroom.

      Trust me.

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  49. Cover your woking area with a blanket. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    I was going to suggest o use that high tech artifact called door, but then I realized you live in one of those post modern one bedroom appartments .... Or next time you go to IKEA buy one of the modules for your bookshelf that can act as a cage.

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  50. Tabasco Sauce by CertGen · · Score: 3, Informative

    Worked for me when I had the same problem with my cats. Just dilute it 1:1 with water and use a little paint brush to cover your cables. It also works to keep them from chewing the leaves on your potted palm tree.

  51. Of course! by Baikala · · Score: 1
    "... restricting my cats access to my hardware is not an option."

    Of course, they need to study for their MSCE exams

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  52. ultrasonics are good by boredprogrammer · · Score: 1

    Try http://www.izola.co.uk Aim it with care, and you it could guard off a corner of your room! "Recommended as a professional grade ultrasonic cat repeller, the SYG3 is nevertheless a true multipurpose system for various pest situations including badgers, squirrels, deer, dogs and armadillos, rodents and insects. It has an adjustable frequency dial. The powerful transducer coupled with the ultra-sensitive motion sensor which makes it suitable for distances up to 80 ft, but highly effective at shorter ranges." -they don't like it up 'em-

  53. Mod parent up! by smellystudent · · Score: 1

    Damn, to think I had mod points earlier!

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  54. Pavlov solved this one by Erebus · · Score: 1

    a long time ago. Just take the chewed cable, hold it in a U so that the chewed portion is at the bend, grab the chewer by the scruff of the neck, show him/her the chewed portion, then lay a couple of "thank you sir, may I have another"s on their ass, and let Pavlov do the rest. Cats have nine lives for a reason; use a couple.

    P.S. Both a companion cat and plenty of other chewy things will help greatly, but they are "secondary" solutions.

  55. highly effective solution by rumpledstiltskin · · Score: 2, Informative

    what I've found to be highly effective with my 3 (!) cats in my small 2 bedroom apartment is keeping a spray bottle on hand full of water. when the cats go somewhere they know they're not supposed to or do something they're not supposed to, they get thoroughly soaked. a warning squirt is usually good enough to keep them from being stupid, but if they insist, a good shower will usually discipline them with no ill effects. barring that, if you scruff them (grab a good chunk of skin on the back of their neck) and hold them down to the ground, they usually get the picture that they're being disciplined and will learn not to do that behavior.

  56. Cat Solution by Super+Grover · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Step 1: Get a burlap sack
    Step 2: Place cat gently in burlap sack
    Step 3: Tie burlap sack shut
    Step 4: Toss burlap sack in the river

    Problem solved!

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  57. Your cat is asking for help by caseih · · Score: 1

    Clearly this is a sign that your cat has some serious psychological issues and is asking for help. This is probably your cat's way of letting you know that spending all day every day inside your little apartment with nothing to do but play quake and chase optical mice that don't even taste good is slowly driving it insane. Think of your cat's mental health. Think of your own mental health. Not to mention your wallet. Let your cat go free. It's not worth 300 dollars!

  58. Too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You should have disciplined your cats when they were kittens. But you didn't. I hope you don't have kids. The prisons are already overcrowded.

    The best solutions are to either:

    (a) budget a monthly amount to pay for the cats' damage.

    (b) give them away.

    (c) try to discipline them now with a squirt bottle (good luck with that).

    Sorry for the flamebatish response, but time & time again I hear people (even my wife when she had cats before we were married) say "my cats do this or that". Invariably, the situation is the same. People think thay shouldn't discipline cats.

    If you make it known to them that certain behavior is unacceptable, and enfore your rules, you will not have this problem in the future.

  59. Simple by pagercam2 · · Score: 1

    1. Open window (one on wall, not computer)
    2. Pick up pussy (small furry animal, not woman)
    3. Walk to window (one on wall, not computer)
    4. Throw pussy out window (small furry animal, not woman) (one on wall, not computer)
    5. Close window (one on wall, not computer)
    6. Problem solved = Priceless!!!

  60. Does wife-proofing count? by stuffduff · · Score: 2, Funny

    I got my wife her own machine; my uptime went to five nines! ;^)

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  61. Tell that to my cat. by bluGill · · Score: 1

    Get a dog to guard your gear. Cats are scared of dogs.

    Please explain to my cat why it isn't a good idea to attack a dog 10 times your size. He doesn't get it.

    The idea that cats are scared of dogs is overrated, they get along just fine when introduced correctly. My dog cannot walk down the hall without the cat chasing after. My dog cannot sleep at my feet without the cat running across the room, jumping on the couch, springing off the end, and doing a backflip onto the dog's head. Funny to watch the two of them, but it makes it hard to get any reading done.

    1. Re:Tell that to my cat. by HeyLaughingBoy · · Score: 1
      The idea that cats are scared of dogs is overrated

      To say the least! Our 5lb (or thereabouts) cat used to kick the crap out of our 80+ lb dog until the dog wised up and realized she was much larger than the cat and could fight back. Now I regularly come home to find them curled up together sleeping (cat "spooned" inside the dog).
    2. Re:Tell that to my cat. by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Please explain to my cat why it isn't a good idea to attack a dog 10 times your size. He doesn't get it.

      Field trip.

      Junkyard. :)

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  62. Model Trains by k4_pacific · · Score: 1

    Not really applicable here, but a friend of mine who has model trains kept the cats off his layout by taking the locomotives off the track and putting wall current on the rails. If it doesn't kill them the first time, they'll learn their lesson pretty quickly.

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  63. Cats, computers, and small apartments by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

    Due to the fact that I live in a one bedroom apartment restricting my cats access to my hardware is not an option. I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on a better way to protect gear from animals.

    Have you considered getting a bigger apartment or even a house?

    I have a cat (7 months old), and he's managed to chew through an AM antenna for my stereo and the cord of the earpiece for my cellphone. I also use Bitter Apple spray for some cords and plastic cable covers for others (sometimes both), but neither of those two mentioned items had been sprayed nor covered. The cable covers can be obtained from either Menards or Home Depot, multiple diameters, and cuttable to length.

    But with the number of cables around my computer, the only real solution is segregation except when I'm there to keep an eye on the cat. I moved from a two-bedroom apartment to a three-bedroom house and got the cat after the move.

    And at times I worry less about him eating cords than I do about him getting entangled in them, especially ethernet cabling. Its hard to get a cat out of a tangle of ethernet in the narrow gap behind a desk when it doesn't want to be got.

    I may also start packing a water pistol to discourage bad behavior.

    Or you could try hiding the cable in conduit or behind a false wall or under a false floor. And switching to wireless Bluetooth devices wherever possible, like keyboards, mice, and printers.

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  64. Speaking as a Dog person... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    testify my brother.

    No, it's not. Cats are social creatures, just like dogs - just because they display their sociality in different manner than dogs, or that some cat owners decide to reward thier cat's dominant behaviour (which is misinterpreted as anti-social tendencies), doesn't mean that the social instincts are not there.

    One of my firends, who should not have pets, has a cat. The cat started scratching his crappy sofa. I mention something about it, a month later he finally gets a scratching post. But since the cat has the sofa nicely broken in, he's not particularly interested in the curiously large lump of carpet. So my buddie is all pissed off I made him buy a scratching post for the cat, and the cat doesn't like it. Solution: Shove the scratching post up against the corner of the couch he likes to scratch one. Amazingly, or not, it immediately solved the problem. I also taught him to come when called (when I took care of him during a vacation), but since my pal never kept up with it, or even in fact calls him anything other than "Cat", he stopped doing it pretty quickly.

    Again, being a dog person, I normally couldn't be bothered, but his cat is such a ham.

  65. Chinese food by abramul · · Score: 2, Informative
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  66. A couple ideas... by blate · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I had the same problem with my golden retriever when he was young ($100 USB headsets

    When animals chew on inappropriate things, it can mean one or more of several things. [Caveat: my experience is largely with dogs, though I expect some of the insights will apply to felines too.]

    o They are teething or have a dental problem. This is normal when they are young (and new teeth are coming in).
    o They are bored or feel abandoned -- inappropriate chewing, marking, etc. can be a compulsive disorder for dogs, kind of like ADHD. Sometimes it is an experssion of anxiety (particularly separation anxiety) or lack of attention. There are resources available for training this out of dogs (and cats, too, I assume)
    o In the case of both cats and dogs, it can mean they are pissed off at you, either for leaving them alone, not playing with them, or whatever.
    o Finally, it may indicate that they are hungry (is your cat *eating* the wire or just chewing it to bits?). If they are eating what they are chewing up, you'll find... evidence... routed though their South end in a couple days... :)

    Deterrance and correction. The best course of action is to catch them in the act and correct them, usually with a loud "DON'T!" or something similar. In the case of dogs in particular, this is a good opportunity to establish dominance -- e.g., roll the dog on his back, pin him down (primarily by the neck or mouth), and hold him there until he stops struggling. He'll understand that you're the Alpha and that he's done something unappropriate.

    [Note: this is a fight that you absolutely have to win -- if he escapes, catch him; if he tries to get away, restrain him. If you don't win the engagement, the dog will conclude that the's the Alpha and behavior problems will persist. Also, I'm not advocating *hurting* or being violent with your pet. The technique I described mimics, at least for dogs, actual dominant dog behavior, but does not inflict injury or physical pain. It sends the right message with a minimum of violence and a maximum of effectiveness and is a well-accepted training technique.]

    One thing that is not effective is correcting the animal after the fact -- dogs and cats have short memories. If he chewed up your cables and you yell at him even 5 minutes later, he won't understand -- most animals don't have the sophisticated reasoning system to connect the correction with the past event. You have to catch him in the act and issue the correction post haste.

    One way to ensure that you can catch them in the act is to set up a "trap" -- leave a cable on the floor and keep an eye on the animal. If, or when, he goes after it, nail him then and there. If you do this a couple times, then hopefully he'll get the idea that cables are not food/playthings :)

    Another technique is to use a product such as "Sour Apple", which you coat on surfaces (such as cables) that the animal tends to eat. The product is non-toxic, but tastes quite nasty to them (very bitter/sour) and will deter them. Your local pet shop should have a selection of such products. I never had to use them with my dog, but I have friends who have used it with great success.

    The behavior problem may also be due to the fact that the animal does not have any or enough appropriate toys to chew on. Go to your pet shop and buy a selection of animal- and breed- (read: size) appropriate toys. If the problem is chewing, then get chew-toys. If the problem is scratching, get scratching posts or similar products.

    Introduce the toys to your pet and praise or reward him when he chews on them and plays with them. This will build a positive association between playing with the appropriate toys. Together with strong corrections for playing with inappropriate "toys", the animal should learn which toys are his and which are not.

    If the problem is hunger, then "free-feeding" may be a desirable option. Rather than feeding the animal at distinct times of the day, you leave out excess food in his b

    1. Re:A couple ideas... by blate · · Score: 4, Informative

      [Sorry -- formatting got fouled up on first post. Here's the full post.]

      I had the same problem with my golden retriever when he was young (8mos). Among other things, he chewed through:

      o The power adapter for my laptop
      o An AC computer power cable (luckily, it wasn't live at the time, though that might have broken him of the habit)
      o Several sets of $100 USB headsets

      When animals chew on inappropriate things, it can mean one or more of several things. [Caveat: my experience is largely with dogs, though I expect some of the insights will apply to felines too.]

      o They are teething or have a dental problem. This is normal when they are young (and new teeth are coming in).
      o They are bored or feel abandoned -- inappropriate chewing, marking, etc. can be a compulsive disorder for dogs, kind of like ADHD. Sometimes it is an experssion of anxiety (particularly separation anxiety) or lack of attention. There are resources available for training this out of dogs (and cats, too, I assume)
      o In the case of both cats and dogs, it can mean they are pissed off at you, either for leaving them alone, not playing with them, or whatever.
      o Finally, it may indicate that they are hungry (is your cat *eating* the wire or just chewing it to bits?). If they are eating what they are chewing up, you'll find... evidence... routed though their South end in a couple days... :)

      Deterrance and correction. The best course of action is to catch them in the act and correct them, usually with a loud "DON'T!" or something similar. In the case of dogs in particular, this is a good opportunity to establish dominance -- e.g., roll the dog on his back, pin him down (primarily by the neck or mouth), and hold him there until he stops struggling. He'll understand that you're the Alpha and that he's done something unappropriate.

      [Note: this is a fight that you absolutely have to win -- if he escapes, catch him; if he tries to get away, restrain him. If you don't win the engagement, the dog will conclude that the's the Alpha and behavior problems will persist. Also, I'm not advocating *hurting* or being violent with your pet. The technique I described mimics, at least for dogs, actual dominant dog behavior, but does not inflict injury or physical pain. It sends the right message with a minimum of violence and a maximum of effectiveness and is a well-accepted training technique.]

      One thing that is not effective is correcting the animal after the fact -- dogs and cats have short memories. If he chewed up your cables and you yell at him even 5 minutes later, he won't understand -- most animals don't have the sophisticated reasoning system to connect the correction with the past event. You have to catch him in the act and issue the correction post haste.

      One way to ensure that you can catch them in the act is to set up a "trap" -- leave a cable on the floor and keep an eye on the animal. If, or when, he goes after it, nail him then and there. If you do this a couple times, then hopefully he'll get the idea that cables are not food/playthings :)

      Another technique is to use a product such as "Sour Apple", which you coat on surfaces (such as cables) that the animal tends to eat. The product is non-toxic, but tastes quite nasty to them (very bitter/sour) and will deter them. Your local pet shop should have a selection of such products. I never had to use them with my dog, but I have friends who have used it with great success.

      The behavior problem may also be due to the fact that the animal does not have any or enough appropriate toys to chew on. Go to your pet shop and buy a selection of animal- and breed- (read: size) appropriate toys. If the problem is chewing, then get chew-toys. If the problem is scratching, get scratching posts or similar products.

      Introduce the toys to your pet and praise or reward him when he chews on them and plays with them. This will build a positive association between playing with the appropriate toys. To

    2. Re:A couple ideas... by djinn87 · · Score: 1

      There's is a small chance that the puppy in question just thinks that chewing cables is fun and it has nothing to do with a behaviour disorder. Our puppy has rubber-type toys and rope bones. How is she really supposed to know the different between ethernet cables and toys?

      Sure, she can be taught (if you can catch her), and sure boredom might have a bit to do with it, but there's a lot of posts (like your very informative, descriptive, and good one above) that say something to the effect of neglect, get another pet, too small environment, etc without acknowledging the chance that ... it's just odd chance that your pet has a thing for cables.

      I'd tend toward the trap and yell or hot sauce methods myself. I just keep waiting for the day our puppy gets herself a live wire instead of an ethernet one and then I won't need to set a trap. In the meantime, I believe that's what they really invented wireless for.

    3. Re:A couple ideas... by blate · · Score: 1

      Your point is well taken and apparently, I didn't make mine clearly enough.

      What I was trying to do is to explore the possible sources of and solution to the gentleman's problem. You are correct that his cat might just like eating cables, just as my dog liked eating USB headsets. So, you try correcting the animal or using sour apple or hotsauce, as you suggest. (FYI: my dog likes hot sauce, so that wouldn't work for him!), in addition to providing him with acceptible toys.

      However, if these techniques don't work, then it could be a deeper issue.

      What I should have said was that, chances are, it's NOT a deeper issue and that the other techniques should work.

      One thing to remember -- don't blame the pet, blame the owner. Nothing against you, myself, or the poster; instead, when your pet acts badly, the question you should ask is, "what did I do wrong" or "what can I do to teach him that this is bad." Pet's don't intrinsically know right and wrong, or what is appropriate or inappropriate behavior. You have to teach them (just like children). It's not the dog's fault that he ate your $120 headset -- he didn't know that it wasn't a toy. :)

      One final thought, which applies more to dogs than to cats (who are more agile and better climbers) -- consider "puppy-proofing" your house (or "cat-proofing", if you will). This is to say that you should basically crawl around on the floor and look for things that your pet would have access to which you don't want him getting at. We're talking wires, open trash cans, food products, etc. If you've ever raised a kid, you know the term "baby-proofing" or "toddler-proofing" -- this is the same idea. Remove attractive nusiances and you will be less stressed and your pet will be safer. :)

  67. Dip all your cords in wolverine urine by cheezus · · Score: 2, Funny

    the cat will cower in the corner

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  68. Mod Parent Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Taser cables? Yum!

  69. Ahem by devphil · · Score: 2, Insightful


    Just be sure to check what you're about to spray water on before squeezing the spray trigger. If it's part of your computer, stop.

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  70. Re:Double-sided tape - Mod Parent Up!!! by Moeses · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is some good advice. I want to stress the possibility that the cats might not get along unless they are integrated properly (and even then they might not get along).

    One thing I've found that can solve a host of cat problems is excersize them HARD at least 15 minutes everyday. Find a toy on a string that your cat loves (shouldn't be too hard!) and keep it out of their reach and site except for excersize time. This will ensure your cat gets real excited about the toy.

    I would come home from work and walk around the room, half-absentmindedly tossing the toy around while I watched TV. The cat would burn off all it's excess energy.

    Once I started doing this with a problem cat that circumstances lead to my possession the cat became much more social, stopped over eating (poor thing was bored and seditary), got in shape and generally put the spark back into its personality.

    As an added plus if you have a cat that keeps you awake while you're trying to sleep do the excersize thing with them just before you go to bed and feed the cat after the excersize. The cat will soon be ready for a nap itself.

    Good luck.

  71. Paint Pellet Gun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That will teach that damn cat!

  72. Rub hot sauce on the Wires by Dolemite_the_Wiz · · Score: 1

    That will keep them from chewing on the wires.

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  73. Re:Double-sided tape - Mod Parent Up!!! by Inexile2002 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Excellent suggestion and I wish I'd included it in my post because I've done the same thing. As and added note though, there is a cat toy that is the busy geek's nirvana. In execution it is extremely simple - it is a piece of straight spring wire with little pieces of wood or cardboard at the ends. You hold one end and the other end bounces and waves very much the way an a flying insect will.

    What makes this toy great is that in addition to cats loving it and going ballistic when they see it - is that you don't actually have to always actively wield it. I'll hold it absently in one hand when I'm reading or watching tv - letting it hang off the side of the couch, and the cats will do frantic run-bys every five minutes swatting it like crazy.

    Bought mine for $5-7 Canadian and I've seen them in every pet store I've been in lately. It doesn't look like it would be hard to make one either.

  74. That doesn't work with electricity by leonbrooks · · Score: 1

    A friend of ours had a cable-chewing cat. It chewed through their (240V) figure-8 standard lamp cable three times (down in a corner where nobody noticed and chased him off), each time ending with a cat flung across the room by the discharge. However, he wasn't building an immunity, 'coz the third time he didn't get up and stagger away.

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    1. Re:That doesn't work with electricity by Bush+Pig · · Score: 1

      So ... the problem will eventually solve itself.

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  75. Cost analysis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Monitor = $300
    Cable protectors = $6/per

    Shotgun shells = $0.25

    DO THE MATH, MAN!

  76. DIY Solution. . . a little ghetto. . . by Valsgarde · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I ran a pvc maze behind my desk, with the wires running through it to where it needs to go. the pvc can be painted with krylon fusion spraypaint. Works against ferrets, also. . . provided you get the diameter right.

  77. Cover the cables by Kahnza · · Score: 1

    How about using split-loom tubing over your cables? Its cheap, and the cat is unlikely able to chew through that.

  78. WASABI! by strider_starslayer · · Score: 1

    My cat used to do the same thing, I found an interesting solution that seemed to benifit everyone (me because my gear stopped getting torn up, and the cat because he diden't choke and die on an electircal cable)- I coated my stuff with wasabi- It smells pugnent (which is important for keeping cats at bay) and it will remain 'active' even after it's dried onto the cable (you can purchase wasabi in powdered form; do not eat the powder) so that if the cat decides to 'forget' the lessons of the past some time down the line the cords are still way too hot to eat!

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  79. My cats LIKE hot peppers! by MarcQuadra · · Score: 1

    I thought this was odd. I left my hot peppers out a few nights ago, and my cats chewed through three of them. These were Serrano Chilies, pretty hot on the scale as far as chilies go. Since then they've been trying to get into the cabinet where I put the peppers.

    Then again they seem to mimic all my habits. I've got one cat that goes NUTS for coffee grinds and another that chases and eats tobacco products.

    Alright, I'm off to go snuggle them!

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  80. damn cat by tobiplanet · · Score: 1

    You know the plastic tubing on vacuum attachments?? Well they sell it at home depot at any length/width. Buy a bunch of that, cut it down the middle and put your cables in that.

  81. Bitter Apple Spray by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    For dogs, bitter apple spray works pretty well.

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  82. Cats in Australia (was Re:+5 Insightful) by OzPixel · · Score: 1

    vrai wrote : Cats are hunters. They need lots of space for territory and lots of things to hunt. They are not indoor animals.

    In Australia, people are advised to keep cats indoors as much as possible. Unfortunately, cats are indeed hunters, and they love nothing more than Fillet of Rare Australian Bird with a side dish of Small Defenceless Marsupial. I can't recall the figures now, but cats, especially when let out at night, can hunt down and wound or kill quite a large number of animals.


    David.

  83. Yes, by leonbrooks · · Score: 1

    shockingly enough, it will.

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  84. Hot sauce -seriously by filenabber · · Score: 1
    My cat chewed through the same speaker wire probably 5 times in a 2 week span (and the splicing took the wire from 5 feet down to about 2). I took some Texas Pete hot sauce and coated/painted the wires with it then let it dry. Once it dried, I put it back and she hasn't touched them since. I think there is some stuff for pets called "Bitter Apple" spray(?) that does the same thing - tastes awful and they won't chew what you put it on.

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  85. Habanero Peppers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read *somewhere* that companies who produced paint for street signs discovered including habanero peppper in the mix prevented animals from chewing on their products. Also, the Navy was supposedly working on a synthetic habanero pepper to prevent barnacles from attaching to the sides ships.

    That will probably keep kitty from chewing.

  86. Bitter Apple ( Was: Re:Get another cat?) by 6.023e23 · · Score: 1

    My experience with Bitter Apple has been great. I have 2 cats and only the young one is prone to chew on things in the apartment. It doesn't take much BA to convince him that the object of his chewing obsession is not tasty nor worth the bother.

    While having a 2nd cat DOES in many ways make for a more cat-friendly environment (the reason I got a 2nd on in the first place), it is also a lot more effort (effort/cost/trouble increase exponentially with cats). If you have a small apartment, it may not be all that feasible.

    Contrary to the statements of some other posters, this behavior in a cat is not generally out of displeasure or anger, but shear boredom and a need to chew. Is it a young cat? Could it be teething? (I have had to deal with that before... ugh). Maybe some more cat toys and some interactive playtime are in order. If your cat is angry with you, believe me, you WILL know it. :-)

    It's possible you wouldn't have to coat ALL your cables. If the BA works, then hitting the cables you catch him/her chewing will condition him/her to the association of BA with cables. It's worked well with my cats, but of course cats are each unique so YMMV.

  87. protecting wires on the cheap by john_marks · · Score: 1

    I have a similar problem with one of my cats and found on the cheap and simple solution: split convoluted tubing.

    Traditionally found in stereo stores to help gather unsightly cable spaghetti together into a single, somewhat slightly plastic tube, this has proven the perfect answer to discourage pet cable chewing. When bitten the split parts crackle against each other (a real surprise to the cat) and the tubing has chew marks on it. Only a few places have needed additional protection: duct tape. Together, these two inexpensive products have stopped cable chewing on all cables that they have been used on (which is all exposed cables in my home).

    Hope this helps!

    -JM

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  88. Re:Cat biting by Chiggy_Von_Richtoffe · · Score: 2

    I don't know how other cat's work, but my buddy Gizmo certainly hates the smell of oranges. Lemons, limes, and other citrus fruits don't seem to have the same effect, but certainly anytime i peel an orange he will be intrigued by the bright colour only untill he smells it. Usually we find him sneezing on the couch indignantly.

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