Man this is one of the best threads I have read, and I normally block all game content for lack of interest. In fact this is better than all the AskSlashdot's that hit the main page daily. I really just wish the guy would go ahead and post it all at once. While reading I felt like I was hanging by a thread waiting on his next post. If only we could get these kinds of details from other games, software, music, movies, etc. Not who screwed who during the production but actual details on how things are decided and where specific features came from.
Good example of the right kind of details to keep you interested as well as good Q&A's to add life.
I would agree except that I have been using linux daily since 1994. My rant is derived from me getting a new laptop and pc in the last month and having a hell of a time getting a distribution that works as well as my old debian machine in the back room. It does myth, smb, vlc, firefox, msoffice (by way of crossover), and anything else I might use, but no extras. So far with my new installs, i cant get myth to work properly on one distro, no wireless networking on most of them, having to use multiple media players on one because there were only certain codecs installed with each one even though they could play anyhthing (really annoying considering I only use avi, mov, mpg, and mp4 videos, and my cellphone (blackjack) can do it with a player called tcpmp (gpl). Ohh and on the damn ubuntu machine that is useless because it wont connect to get updates because no support for wireless lan. Lots to rant over. I just dont have enough time in the day.
I have wondered this for a while and this article highlights it. With all the distributions out there, why so much hype this year for Ubuntu? I downloaded both the Drake and the current, and I have neither time been impressed with it. I don't understand what makes people think its better than Debian, which by the way always seems to work better and with more success. I'm sure there has to be a contender better, anyone would be better. The distributions that get the most exposure (preloads, etc) are not the ones that are getting recognition d(remember we are talking desktop usage). I used Caldera Linux (ack I know) all the way back in 1997 and it was better than the current flock of Desktop OS's. I wonder why someone couldn't bring it back, limit the crap in the install, but make it available (you dont need emacs or vi, you need Write or a notepad). Keep many common services that people may just want on their pc like httpd, ftp, ssh, but get rid of SQL servers and the like for advanced users. Give a good browser (firefox with alot of preinstalled extensions) with a good starting page. Links to office apps, browser, drives, on the desktop. DONT SLACK ON THE NETWORKING (more IM's, browsers, clients, etc). DONT GIVE ME 5 MEDIA PLAYERS, just one really well maintained one would be great (vlc if the comment above werent true). And for gods sake, drop all the extra games, apps, etc. If someone needs anything in particular for a desktop os, they WILL download it. I mean come on who of us uses linux for a desktop that doesnt have access to updates? *rant mode off* This reply should have been a ASK Slashdot, but we all know we miss actual articles. So I wont put us through it.
The university job is working in a university funded business development extension office, the tuition is highly reduced for classes, and the pay is close to the same as the other job without any incentives, and is more like a start-up than a college setting.
cutting-edge is defined as pre-production networking, wireless, rfid, and related technologies. And it would be dealing directly with upper management of said fortune 10 company. The incentives offered could equal anywhere between 0-50+% of the salary on top of the salary itself.
The hardest part to decide comes down to the money, and the technology. Although I love networking, I just don't know how much of it will be opensource type software I will deal with. RFID for instance has very little Free/OSS, which I guess could be a good thing, as I could begin such projects with the resources available. Seeing as I have for much of my career dealt with networking/systems administration, I just don't know what else I could learn there. But the fact that its part of the university that would be helping startups get going, really makes it difficult, because then I have even more resources available for future opportunities. This is just an extremely hard thing to decide even with feedback from my wife and family.
Seeing as Novell Corp had engineers that created a linux distribution, then spawn it off to its own company (Caldera) then they go IPO and whammo lots of cash to buy SCO, then SCO somehow swallows Caldera and no more Linux. Then Novell shows back up and buys SuSe. So no matter how you look at this its still Novell's fault. And to the question about where does SCO get their money. Well I guess dumbasses like me that thought investing in Caldera was good for Linux. So basically Linux funded SCO's legal battles against Linux. Now why does noone ever point at Ray Noorda since it was his money that started all this shit to begin with?
I have in the past been a sys admin, security admin, network admin, software developer, project manager, integrater, consultant and currently a software tester, so I am pretty well informed on technology.
Thats my background, but whats funny is that in my history, the people who have used and liked opera have been business types. I have one past customer in particular, he uses opera on his primary browsing computer. But he isnt typical in any way, as this customer has been known to be a technological slug. He still does most of his work on a Windows 98 box using all DOS based software. He uses FirstChoice for word processing, a proprietary app for controlling alarm systems, and other long outdated software. Now even though I have updated everyone else in his office to current software, he continues to keep what he says "works". This is why he only uses Opera now. He had at one time many, many problems with his computers (mostly because of old software, virii, and spyware), including Internet Explorer. So he got to a point where pages just wouldn't load, and when they did not for long as popups would take over and he didnt recognize a concept of trusted hosts. So when he asked me to find another solution for him, I had installed and loaded Netscape, and because of his internet habits, it too became unusable. As this was years ago, at the time I had never used opera, but knew of it. I loaded opera and co-learned with him how to use it for basic browsing, and never looked back. With the new wave of usage of Firefox, I had recently installed it to all other office pc's and all users were comfortable and loving it. So I tried to add firefox for him too, and still even with adblock, etc he still couldnt use it. But opera he is so comfortable with he will not change now. He loves it, it does exactly what it is supposed to, and it has never not worked. This is the key for him, that it doesnt just work, but works everytime. And the fact that it shows some ads has never seemed to bother him at all. He just doesnt want to think about how or why or even what works. So with better exposure I'm sure alot more people would use opera over firefox. Not because of this or that feature, but because of stability and reliability. The web browser is your window to the internet, so what need is there for another set of windows underneath, just tabs.;)
It's quite nice to be able to have multiple terminals visible at the same time and have quick cut-and-paste.
Try using gpm and you can do a quick cut-and-paste. Just hold the mouse left button down and highlight text to copy, then just click the middle mouse button (or both left and right or the scroll on a scroll mouse) to paste.
I use Linux mostly at work as well, I do work in a Windows-centric environment so I use VMWare to run Windows. Otherwise I would rather just use the virtual consoles, with ssh, elinks (for browsing), and rarely X. I do find X to be useful for things that I must use it for, but for the most productivity, nothing beats a console.
To me it always seemed like these products came from the same company anyway. Both are definitely MAC companies, so good luck trying to get useful products for any other OS's. Adobe does do graphics better than anyone, but I just don't see their benefit but to buy something that looks like it was made for a 4 year old. Macromedia has always been an annoying company with annoying software that has no use for anything but wasting time. I agree with the boycott of Flash sites, but I never realized I did. I never intentionally decided to not go to a flash site, but everytime I see it, I just back my browser up. In the old days i can remember cringing everytime i seen a website say anything about Adobe or Macromedia because all it meant to me was SLLLOOOOWWWWWW. Now in the days of broadband It may not be slow, but it could be, either way it still sucks resources, and basically makes the browser flake out or creates memory leaks until its killed. I just wish web plugins would go away. I don't want my browser loading any other program to use a webpage.
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Microsoft SMS (or Systems Management Software) is the product that MS endorses and brands for a remote admin program. Sucks like shit, but its a product.
I notice that some of you are uninformed about Caldera, so I figured i would throw in a few recollectable facts. Caldera has been around since 95 (Somewhere in there because I remember hearing about Ray Noorda the CEO of Novell resigning and starting a Linux Business business. I thought that would be the real chance for acceptance in the commercial market way back then.) Caldera was also the ones to port the Netscape Products (supported version) to linux, and the ones to port WABI (3.1 emulator thing) from SUN to Linux. They have strategically made deals and gotten alot of major things done for Linux. Caldera is a Canopy Group holding (R.N. holdings..) like, KeyLabs, MTI, Helius, and any other techno company in Utah. Caldera has had revolutionary installation procedures since way back and had the tetris in the install since at least OL 1.0. Caldera is the second lagest distro in the US. (heard that and read it many times). I know it was deffinitely pre95 because my company was listed in a PC Today article along with Caldera and Redhat as Linux based companies. Back before it was cool. (Linux in a Grey Flannel Suit I beleive was the article.) Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 is alot less of a commercialized deal now than it was when it started with the Linux Base, Linux Standard, and Linux Lite model that were anywhere from 0$-800$ or so. I personally have never liked the RedHat distro because it seems like it was meant for a 15 year old. "Sesame Street of Linux" is a term i use frequently. And my second fav SlackWare is not meant for end users. So Caldera has always been my fav since it struck. They are quick to inovate (demonstrated by the large amount of customizing they do to the items in their distro), they are business minded (no hype about imaginary profits here), and they are working to help further the community (strategic deals with commercial vendors, evangilism of Linux Standard Base by the CEO, and lots of testing cert for hardware, software, and people.) I see Caldera as the only viable alternative to NT in the high-end workstation, server, and even desktop uses. Not going for the 95 market since its poluted enough already. I like that.
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Man this is one of the best threads I have read, and I normally block all game content for lack of interest. In fact this is better than all the AskSlashdot's that hit the main page daily. I really just wish the guy would go ahead and post it all at once. While reading I felt like I was hanging by a thread waiting on his next post. If only we could get these kinds of details from other games, software, music, movies, etc. Not who screwed who during the production but actual details on how things are decided and where specific features came from.
Good example of the right kind of details to keep you interested as well as good Q&A's to add life.
I would agree except that I have been using linux daily since 1994. My rant is derived from me getting a new laptop and pc in the last month and having a hell of a time getting a distribution that works as well as my old debian machine in the back room. It does myth, smb, vlc, firefox, msoffice (by way of crossover), and anything else I might use, but no extras. So far with my new installs, i cant get myth to work properly on one distro, no wireless networking on most of them, having to use multiple media players on one because there were only certain codecs installed with each one even though they could play anyhthing (really annoying considering I only use avi, mov, mpg, and mp4 videos, and my cellphone (blackjack) can do it with a player called tcpmp (gpl).
Ohh and on the damn ubuntu machine that is useless because it wont connect to get updates because no support for wireless lan.
Lots to rant over. I just dont have enough time in the day.
I have wondered this for a while and this article highlights it. With all the distributions out there, why so much hype this year for Ubuntu? I downloaded both the Drake and the current, and I have neither time been impressed with it. I don't understand what makes people think its better than Debian, which by the way always seems to work better and with more success. I'm sure there has to be a contender better, anyone would be better. The distributions that get the most exposure (preloads, etc) are not the ones that are getting recognition d(remember we are talking desktop usage). I used Caldera Linux (ack I know) all the way back in 1997 and it was better than the current flock of Desktop OS's. I wonder why someone couldn't bring it back, limit the crap in the install, but make it available (you dont need emacs or vi, you need Write or a notepad). Keep many common services that people may just want on their pc like httpd, ftp, ssh, but get rid of SQL servers and the like for advanced users. Give a good browser (firefox with alot of preinstalled extensions) with a good starting page. Links to office apps, browser, drives, on the desktop. DONT SLACK ON THE NETWORKING (more IM's, browsers, clients, etc). DONT GIVE ME 5 MEDIA PLAYERS, just one really well maintained one would be great (vlc if the comment above werent true). And for gods sake, drop all the extra games, apps, etc. If someone needs anything in particular for a desktop os, they WILL download it. I mean come on who of us uses linux for a desktop that doesnt have access to updates?
*rant mode off*
This reply should have been a ASK Slashdot, but we all know we miss actual articles. So I wont put us through it.
Ben
I guess I didnt think this out at all.
The university job is working in a university funded business development extension office, the tuition is highly reduced for classes, and the pay is close to the same as the other job without any incentives, and is more like a start-up than a college setting.
cutting-edge is defined as pre-production networking, wireless, rfid, and related technologies. And it would be dealing directly with upper management of said fortune 10 company. The incentives offered could equal anywhere between 0-50+% of the salary on top of the salary itself.
The hardest part to decide comes down to the money, and the technology. Although I love networking, I just don't know how much of it will be opensource type software I will deal with. RFID for instance has very little Free/OSS, which I guess could be a good thing, as I could begin such projects with the resources available. Seeing as I have for much of my career dealt with networking/systems administration, I just don't know what else I could learn there. But the fact that its part of the university that would be helping startups get going, really makes it difficult, because then I have even more resources available for future opportunities. This is just an extremely hard thing to decide even with feedback from my wife and family.
That is the facts, its a job using primarily Windows OS's
I am married, but no kids yet.
I guess I just didn't fill in near enough info.
Both of the jobs base pay is about the same. The corporate position also has a incentive though. Just to fill in the details.
Seeing as Novell Corp had engineers that created a linux distribution, then spawn it off to its own company (Caldera) then they go IPO and whammo lots of cash to buy SCO, then SCO somehow swallows Caldera and no more Linux. Then Novell shows back up and buys SuSe. So no matter how you look at this its still Novell's fault. And to the question about where does SCO get their money. Well I guess dumbasses like me that thought investing in Caldera was good for Linux. So basically Linux funded SCO's legal battles against Linux. Now why does noone ever point at Ray Noorda since it was his money that started all this shit to begin with?
I have in the past been a sys admin, security admin, network admin, software developer, project manager, integrater, consultant and currently a software tester, so I am pretty well informed on technology.
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Thats my background, but whats funny is that in my history, the people who have used and liked opera have been business types. I have one past customer in particular, he uses opera on his primary browsing computer. But he isnt typical in any way, as this customer has been known to be a technological slug. He still does most of his work on a Windows 98 box using all DOS based software. He uses FirstChoice for word processing, a proprietary app for controlling alarm systems, and other long outdated software. Now even though I have updated everyone else in his office to current software, he continues to keep what he says "works". This is why he only uses Opera now. He had at one time many, many problems with his computers (mostly because of old software, virii, and spyware), including Internet Explorer. So he got to a point where pages just wouldn't load, and when they did not for long as popups would take over and he didnt recognize a concept of trusted hosts. So when he asked me to find another solution for him, I had installed and loaded Netscape, and because of his internet habits, it too became unusable. As this was years ago, at the time I had never used opera, but knew of it. I loaded opera and co-learned with him how to use it for basic browsing, and never looked back. With the new wave of usage of Firefox, I had recently installed it to all other office pc's and all users were comfortable and loving it. So I tried to add firefox for him too, and still even with adblock, etc he still couldnt use it. But opera he is so comfortable with he will not change now. He loves it, it does exactly what it is supposed to, and it has never not worked. This is the key for him, that it doesnt just work, but works everytime. And the fact that it shows some ads has never seemed to bother him at all. He just doesnt want to think about how or why or even what works. So with better exposure I'm sure alot more people would use opera over firefox. Not because of this or that feature, but because of stability and reliability. The web browser is your window to the internet, so what need is there for another set of windows underneath, just tabs.
It's quite nice to be able to have multiple terminals visible at the same time and have quick cut-and-paste.
Try using gpm and you can do a quick cut-and-paste. Just hold the mouse left button down and highlight text to copy, then just click the middle mouse button (or both left and right or the scroll on a scroll mouse) to paste.
I use Linux mostly at work as well, I do work in a Windows-centric environment so I use VMWare to run Windows. Otherwise I would rather just use the virtual consoles, with ssh, elinks (for browsing), and rarely X. I do find X to be useful for things that I must use it for, but for the most productivity, nothing beats a console.
To me it always seemed like these products came from the same company anyway. Both are definitely MAC companies, so good luck trying to get useful products for any other OS's. Adobe does do graphics better than anyone, but I just don't see their benefit but to buy something that looks like it was made for a 4 year old. Macromedia has always been an annoying company with annoying software that has no use for anything but wasting time. I agree with the boycott of Flash sites, but I never realized I did. I never intentionally decided to not go to a flash site, but everytime I see it, I just back my browser up. In the old days i can remember cringing everytime i seen a website say anything about Adobe or Macromedia because all it meant to me was SLLLOOOOWWWWWW. Now in the days of broadband It may not be slow, but it could be, either way it still sucks resources, and basically makes the browser flake out or creates memory leaks until its killed. I just wish web plugins would go away. I don't want my browser loading any other program to use a webpage.
Microsoft SMS (or Systems Management Software) is the product that MS endorses and brands for a remote admin program.
Sucks like shit, but its a product.
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I notice that some of you are uninformed about Caldera, so I figured i would throw in a few recollectable facts.
Caldera has been around since 95 (Somewhere in there because I remember hearing about Ray Noorda the CEO of Novell resigning and starting a Linux Business business. I thought that would be the real chance for acceptance in the commercial market way back then.)
Caldera was also the ones to port the Netscape Products (supported version) to linux, and the ones to port WABI (3.1 emulator thing) from SUN to Linux. They have strategically made deals and gotten alot of major things done for Linux. Caldera is a Canopy Group holding (R.N. holdings..) like, KeyLabs, MTI, Helius, and any other techno company in Utah.
Caldera has had revolutionary installation procedures since way back and had the tetris in the install since at least OL 1.0.
Caldera is the second lagest distro in the US. (heard that and read it many times).
I know it was deffinitely pre95 because my company was listed in a PC Today article along with Caldera and Redhat as Linux based companies. Back before it was cool. (Linux in a Grey Flannel Suit I beleive was the article.)
Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 is alot less of a commercialized deal now than it was when it started with the Linux Base, Linux Standard, and Linux Lite model that were anywhere from 0$-800$ or so.
I personally have never liked the RedHat distro because it seems like it was meant for a 15 year old. "Sesame Street of Linux" is a term i use frequently. And my second fav SlackWare is not meant for end users. So Caldera has always been my fav since it struck. They are quick to inovate (demonstrated by the large amount of customizing they do to the items in their distro), they are business minded (no hype about imaginary profits here), and they are working to help further the community (strategic deals with commercial vendors, evangilism of Linux Standard Base by the CEO, and lots of testing cert for hardware, software, and people.)
I see Caldera as the only viable alternative to NT in the high-end workstation, server, and even desktop uses.
Not going for the 95 market since its poluted enough already. I like that.
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