No, airplanse wouldn start crashing out of the sky... BECAUSE THAT CANT HAPPEN IN THE FIRST PLACE due to a computer failure
Hmm..ever heard of an aerobus? it runs by joystick. the pilot is seperated from the plane by a computer. computer goes, plane goes. thank you for flying...
Beautiful sig. i always have to pee after a long programming session, i have a bad habit of waiting until deadline and coding like a madman. its for school...but i need to learn to start sooner.
Yeah, i agree with you. blocking ads is a stupid, jerky way to do things. Blocking popups is just being fair - you have no right to take over someone's desktop - but blocking embedded ads is stupid and rude.
I read ads on sites i like, just because i like the site and i'm curious to see who advert's on that site. call me crazy...
well, considering that my Jr. High and Elementary aged brothers take to KDE with little problem, except for the notable lack of bluescreens/random crashes on the same system when its windows booted, hmm..., I would say linux is _there_. it has security. it has desktops. it has a million cool, educational apps. you must not be paying much attention, eh? Mandrake has EXT3 by default, most others do i'm pretty sure. I doubt anyone will be installing RH6.2, and if they know what they are doing they would have everything nice and locked down, and wouldn't have to pay a pile o' money for some worthless disabler application for their win boxes.
"Linux as a kernel is great, it's the poor desktop software and the
even poorer distros that make the OS non-viable on the desktop."
Now, i don't think you are a troll. But the apps are getting there. Usable isn't the term for it. Very nice is how i'd describe many linux applications. Mozilla, OO, XMMS, and a slew of other applications. superior to their Win/closed counterparts, IMO. I hate MS office...so there. I prefer Openoffice. Irregardless of price.
To summarize: Linux is ready, it's solid, and it's usable. It just needs people to acknowledge it.
Numero Uno: you're posting on your blackout. oops.
Number two: Technically declined people have no problem with linux. In my tests, if you don't know much about computers, a start button is a start button is a penguin/gear/whatever button. Openoffice/Kword = MS word, and they don't know the difference.
Those that have trouble will be the ones who are used to MS, the teachers and upper grades. I am sure the school has _some_ licences, so no doubt they could leave labs open for windows if neccessary.
Mozilla also let's you suppress ads by server - so ads.yoursite.com can be suppressed and there goes your banners, too. You can play with it if you want, running ads and content from the same server...but most don't work that way, as far as i've seen. That trick works great for sites like MSN that have a million little buttons. I usually won't block the ads just the cruft that wastes my bandwidth.
Text based ads - I like them. They don't waste bandwidthe, they aren't so flashy or corny. Done well they are a breath of fresh air. fark is a good site that uses them. I love the site, the text-ads are ok, they need work (less attention grabbing (HEY LOOK WAHOO) and more content ("Buy XYZ from a cool company that supports Fark" is more my style"). And I wouldn't worry about text-based ads being confused for content. Just put them in the place normal adverts go, like top middle or on a sidebar. Maybe add "<adv>, </adv>" tags, not the html but make it visible, you know?
So what you are saying is, OSDN should share all of its accounting with you, and then you'd pay them. hmm. It's an interesting thought, but not really a reason not to pay. Do you want ads, or do you you want to pay? OSDN deserves something for what it does.
OSDN is a business. Slashdotters whine about there not being a decent way to make money on open-source and its ideas. Then we whine about paying for stuff. Now we are whining about having to read an ad or two, by companies that might* be/. friendly to slashdot, enough to pay for an ad or two here. Those companies might just have a worthwhile product or service to advertise. Screw you - pay, with your eyeballs, some money back to the forum that gives you yoru +2 soapbox and your ability to say "[OSDN can] die for all I care. Fuck 'em." That, or go away if its not worth it to you.
Mod parent up as what he says is 100%, if you do win update that means "no information is being sent to microsoft." so either they are lying when they say they have your "unique comptuer ID" or they are lying when they say they didn't get any info from win update. Right?
You are correct about that, and it's good to hear someone say it. However, what i find lacking is simple installation tools. People can install Wazoo messenger or Didlybob app, whatever they find/need/want, in windows, with a wizard. Give linux a good wizard install, to $user_account or $all_user_accounts, using a semi-root account as needed, something that can't really harm the system but change user accounts perhaps. Do that and I'll be _happy_.
Oh yeah, and make KDE faster. with an mp3 player, a movie player, a web browser, an office suite, an IM app, and a file manager, Linux will have itself a viable user operating system. IMO, XMMS, XINE, MOZ etc, OO/abi/Kword, Gaim will handle those. But someone suggest to me a good file manager (I love MC but it isn't quite what i want?)...
ok i'm rambling now. I think we are just about there. Users will come, commercial applications will follow. Suggestions?
As far as i'm concerned, OO matches MS office. it's not _exactly_ the same thing but it does what an office app should do, and it's very close to being able to open up MS docs well. It can do what an office system should do, and it does it well. Once an office application is available, adoption will follow. Applications follow a market - and if linux doesn't get XYZ applications in ABC time that doesn't mean it isn't "viable", it just means it isn't the right thing for you at that time.
Gimp is cool, there are a million cool things about linux. And yes you can use it successfully as a desktop OS - I do.
Getting a machine "linux compatible" is much easier in my experience than getting a machine windows 2K compatible, by far - and XP has some pretty high standards too. I've never had problem with NICs, and my bet is that winmodem support will come, and in some areas is coming. As much as they suck, i wouldn't mind the extra for a REAL MODEM, thank you.
" Beowulf is a multi computer architecture which can be used for
parallel computations. It is a system which usually consists of one
server node, and one or more client nodes connected together via
Ethernet or some other network."
That pretty much explains it. read the howto for lots of fun information.
Sorry to burst your bubble...and no, i don't think this computer is neccessarily about weapons...but do you really think that Japan doesn't ever plan to fight a war ever again? especially considering that they have a "defense force" that isn't too small? Read several posts higher in the thread for more info, but right _now_ they have an army. Just because it's in our constitution, do you think that our government at one time or another hasn't ignored that particular rule when they deemed it neccessary? Japan won't always be an Aldaraan (sp? sorry S.W. fans), they aren't now - but whether they will fight again is a more interesting question...mmmm...world war 3...
wait a second. Whats wrong with Mozilla and rendering? The only pages that don't run right are Popup ads that i turn off! i've had none, nada, zilch rendering errors in Moz since about 9.7. I use Hotmail and browse msn and see no errors. I don't know what pages you're talking about, but as far as i'm concerned Mozilla is _there_ .
its slow mounting times for the OS, at least in my case it is. For example, to mount and read in linux takes a whole lot less than it does in windows. i'm using supermount so no switching from mounting back to the app doesn't give the cdrom time to read ahead or anything.
It doesn't matter how many of you put penguin bumper stickers on your car. The world is going to do what it has always done...ignore you.
Depending on what you define as "the world," I think you are the "idiot." Apple Computing uses OSS. IBM uses OSS. anyone who knows anything about servers is NOT ignoring Linux at all. Even the fact that you're here arguing about it means that _someone_ knows and cares about Open Source Software.
The essence of the post you are replying to is that Microsoft eats up any new market that develops inside it's sphere of influence, ie. any new good Windows software. It can out-compete just about anybody who writes applications. This is pretty much true and has been seen many times. His second point is also valid - the MS tax as it is rightfully known adds to the price of every pc, and it takes away your freedom to choose - you still have to pay even if you get an OS-less system. usually.
Now. about you: "If you write consumer software and it doesn't run on Windows, you aren't getting more than 1% market-share. Ever." Well, i'm sure that's a nice thing to think. But its simply not true. Linux isn't in wide-spread desktop use, but that doesn't mean it's not in use. That means that mom and dad don't use it on their desktop. But Company X (Intel, IBM, Amazon, just to name a few, small examples) are using it in various roles. And in the server realm the Linux kernel is a very nice piece of software that "doesn't run on windows" that has quite a chunk of the market share.
Most of the OS people I know just want good, free, user-friendly software. Not user-frienldly in that it has pretty gui's and wizards, but that a consumer can study its innards, modify it, and share it if he or she wants to. We are a community, and if we don't make money developement will probably still continue. Microsoft sees us as competition. you see us as idiots. time will tell, I sure don't like the idea of one company controlling and monopolizing (and abusing) the desktop for the foreseeable future. Maybe you do. *shrug*.
exactly what i was thinking. and that's why i worry about this one. As much as any other guy i would like to see a lot of the porn have its own domain, but who's to legislate it? and no one will volunteer will they?
And what worries me more is that like others have said, it won't end with porn. It will go on until everything is nice and categorized, and all the interesting stuff is blocked by ISP/whatever. hmmm...well can't i just keep the IP address? : )
The Mozilla guys decided to do a complete rewrite to nail IE into the ground...and look what happened to them (not talking about product quality, just market share).
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Mozilla is _free_. Opera is free with ads. hmmm. ads? what?
well...except...almost everyone agrees that right now, IA-64 is not a step up, but a step back...but its all rumor for now anyways.
No, airplanse wouldn start crashing out of the sky... BECAUSE THAT CANT HAPPEN IN THE FIRST PLACE due to a computer failure
Hmm..ever heard of an aerobus? it runs by joystick. the pilot is seperated from the plane by a computer. computer goes, plane goes. thank you for flying...
I'd congradulate your sister but her email is messed up. help?
Hey i'm 20 and i dont have any idea. i think good. *shrug*.
JAZZ!!! nothing like good ol' boppin music for me. from a slashdot link:
Jazz, from germany, it's so good. especially if you have bandwidth for it.
Beautiful sig. i always have to pee after a long programming session, i have a bad habit of waiting until deadline and coding like a madman. its for school...but i need to learn to start sooner.
Disturbed....hmmm....no coffee though, yuck.
Yeah, i agree with you. blocking ads is a stupid, jerky way to do things. Blocking popups is just being fair - you have no right to take over someone's desktop - but blocking embedded ads is stupid and rude.
I read ads on sites i like, just because i like the site and i'm curious to see who advert's on that site. call me crazy...
Hey, mom, is that a "troll"...?
well, considering that my Jr. High and Elementary aged brothers take to KDE with little problem, except for the notable lack of bluescreens/random crashes on the same system when its windows booted, hmm..., I would say linux is _there_. it has security. it has desktops. it has a million cool, educational apps. you must not be paying much attention, eh? Mandrake has EXT3 by default, most others do i'm pretty sure. I doubt anyone will be installing RH6.2, and if they know what they are doing they would have everything nice and locked down, and wouldn't have to pay a pile o' money for some worthless disabler application for their win boxes.
"Linux as a kernel is great, it's the poor desktop software and the even poorer distros that make the OS non-viable on the desktop."
Now, i don't think you are a troll. But the apps are getting there. Usable isn't the term for it. Very nice is how i'd describe many linux applications. Mozilla, OO, XMMS, and a slew of other applications. superior to their Win/closed counterparts, IMO. I hate MS office...so there. I prefer Openoffice. Irregardless of price.
To summarize: Linux is ready, it's solid, and it's usable. It just needs people to acknowledge it.
Numero Uno: you're posting on your blackout. oops.
Number two: Technically declined people have no problem with linux. In my tests, if you don't know much about computers, a start button is a start button is a penguin/gear/whatever button. Openoffice/Kword = MS word, and they don't know the difference.
Those that have trouble will be the ones who are used to MS, the teachers and upper grades. I am sure the school has _some_ licences, so no doubt they could leave labs open for windows if neccessary.
Mozilla also let's you suppress ads by server - so ads.yoursite.com can be suppressed and there goes your banners, too. You can play with it if you want, running ads and content from the same server...but most don't work that way, as far as i've seen. That trick works great for sites like MSN that have a million little buttons. I usually won't block the ads just the cruft that wastes my bandwidth.
Text based ads - I like them. They don't waste bandwidthe, they aren't so flashy or corny. Done well they are a breath of fresh air. fark is a good site that uses them. I love the site, the text-ads are ok, they need work (less attention grabbing (HEY LOOK WAHOO) and more content ("Buy XYZ from a cool company that supports Fark" is more my style"). And I wouldn't worry about text-based ads being confused for content. Just put them in the place normal adverts go, like top middle or on a sidebar. Maybe add "<adv>, </adv>" tags, not the html but make it visible, you know?
So what you are saying is, OSDN should share all of its accounting with you, and then you'd pay them. hmm. It's an interesting thought, but not really a reason not to pay. Do you want ads, or do you you want to pay? OSDN deserves something for what it does.
/. friendly to slashdot, enough to pay for an ad or two here. Those companies might just have a worthwhile product or service to advertise. Screw you - pay, with your eyeballs, some money back to the forum that gives you yoru +2 soapbox and your ability to say "[OSDN can] die for all I care. Fuck 'em." That, or go away if its not worth it to you.
OSDN is a business. Slashdotters whine about there not being a decent way to make money on open-source and its ideas. Then we whine about paying for stuff. Now we are whining about having to read an ad or two, by companies that might* be
* I know i've seen MS ads on OSDN. lol.
Mod parent up as what he says is 100%, if you do win update that means "no information is being sent to microsoft." so either they are lying when they say they have your "unique comptuer ID" or they are lying when they say they didn't get any info from win update. Right?
You are correct about that, and it's good to hear someone say it. However, what i find lacking is simple installation tools. People can install Wazoo messenger or Didlybob app, whatever they find/need/want, in windows, with a wizard. Give linux a good wizard install, to $user_account or $all_user_accounts, using a semi-root account as needed, something that can't really harm the system but change user accounts perhaps. Do that and I'll be _happy_.
Oh yeah, and make KDE faster. with an mp3 player, a movie player, a web browser, an office suite, an IM app, and a file manager, Linux will have itself a viable user operating system. IMO, XMMS, XINE, MOZ etc, OO/abi/Kword, Gaim will handle those. But someone suggest to me a good file manager (I love MC but it isn't quite what i want?)...
ok i'm rambling now. I think we are just about there. Users will come, commercial applications will follow. Suggestions?
As far as i'm concerned, OO matches MS office. it's not _exactly_ the same thing but it does what an office app should do, and it's very close to being able to open up MS docs well. It can do what an office system should do, and it does it well. Once an office application is available, adoption will follow. Applications follow a market - and if linux doesn't get XYZ applications in ABC time that doesn't mean it isn't "viable", it just means it isn't the right thing for you at that time.
Gimp is cool, there are a million cool things about linux. And yes you can use it successfully as a desktop OS - I do.
Getting a machine "linux compatible" is much easier in my experience than getting a machine windows 2K compatible, by far - and XP has some pretty high standards too. I've never had problem with NICs, and my bet is that winmodem support will come, and in some areas is coming. As much as they suck, i wouldn't mind the extra for a REAL MODEM, thank you.
...from the Beowulf Howto,
" Beowulf is a multi computer architecture which can be used for parallel computations. It is a system which usually consists of one server node, and one or more client nodes connected together via Ethernet or some other network."
That pretty much explains it. read the howto for lots of fun information.
Sorry to burst your bubble...and no, i don't think this computer is neccessarily about weapons...but do you really think that Japan doesn't ever plan to fight a war ever again? especially considering that they have a "defense force" that isn't too small? Read several posts higher in the thread for more info, but right _now_ they have an army. Just because it's in our constitution, do you think that our government at one time or another hasn't ignored that particular rule when they deemed it neccessary? Japan won't always be an Aldaraan (sp? sorry S.W. fans), they aren't now - but whether they will fight again is a more interesting question...mmmm...world war 3...
wait a second. Whats wrong with Mozilla and rendering? The only pages that don't run right are Popup ads that i turn off! i've had none, nada, zilch rendering errors in Moz since about 9.7. I use Hotmail and browse msn and see no errors. I don't know what pages you're talking about, but as far as i'm concerned Mozilla is _there_ .
its slow mounting times for the OS, at least in my case it is. For example, to mount and read in linux takes a whole lot less than it does in windows. i'm using supermount so no switching from mounting back to the app doesn't give the cdrom time to read ahead or anything.
It doesn't matter how many of you put penguin bumper stickers on your car. The world is going to do what it has always done...ignore you.
Depending on what you define as "the world," I think you are the "idiot." Apple Computing uses OSS. IBM uses OSS. anyone who knows anything about servers is NOT ignoring Linux at all. Even the fact that you're here arguing about it means that _someone_ knows and cares about Open Source Software.
The essence of the post you are replying to is that Microsoft eats up any new market that develops inside it's sphere of influence, ie. any new good Windows software. It can out-compete just about anybody who writes applications. This is pretty much true and has been seen many times. His second point is also valid - the MS tax as it is rightfully known adds to the price of every pc, and it takes away your freedom to choose - you still have to pay even if you get an OS-less system. usually.
Now. about you: "If you write consumer software and it doesn't run on Windows, you aren't getting more than 1% market-share. Ever." Well, i'm sure that's a nice thing to think. But its simply not true. Linux isn't in wide-spread desktop use, but that doesn't mean it's not in use. That means that mom and dad don't use it on their desktop. But Company X (Intel, IBM, Amazon, just to name a few, small examples) are using it in various roles. And in the server realm the Linux kernel is a very nice piece of software that "doesn't run on windows" that has quite a chunk of the market share.
Most of the OS people I know just want good, free, user-friendly software. Not user-frienldly in that it has pretty gui's and wizards, but that a consumer can study its innards, modify it, and share it if he or she wants to. We are a community, and if we don't make money developement will probably still continue. Microsoft sees us as competition. you see us as idiots. time will tell, I sure don't like the idea of one company controlling and monopolizing (and abusing) the desktop for the foreseeable future. Maybe you do. *shrug*.
you do know good ol' Abe was quoting someone when he wrote that, right? Not that it isn't especially apt, here on slashdot... : )
Abe receives a lot of credit for things he didn't originate. however, kudos to him for saying the things he does though.
don't forget kittens. : )
exactly what i was thinking. and that's why i worry about this one. As much as any other guy i would like to see a lot of the porn have its own domain, but who's to legislate it? and no one will volunteer will they?
And what worries me more is that like others have said, it won't end with porn. It will go on until everything is nice and categorized, and all the interesting stuff is blocked by ISP/whatever. hmmm...well can't i just keep the IP address? : )
Because its too embarrassing that over 90% of the users visit slashdot with IE.
i'm 1 that uses Moz on linux. anyone else? a do-it yourself poll?
The Mozilla guys decided to do a complete rewrite to nail IE into the ground...and look what happened to them (not talking about product quality, just market share).
wait. Just...wait.