not only that, but the SCO v. IBM case is about COPYRIGHT. the FSF and RH are bashed because they dont like "copyright and software patents." But, the FSF and RH only hate patents. They like copyright. And in the SCO v. IBM case, they fully support US copyright law. So it isnt' even a straw man, it's a false redirect, or bait n switch. or whatever. it's just plain RETARDED, man!
-1, flamebait. Seriously...Darl is just asking for it! he's like the world's BEST TROLL EVER. No one else in the entire world has gotten this many geeks mad! Amazing.
Exactly. I noticed the bait n switch technique too -
Darl's argument:
#1, Red Hat is anti-american, because we say they are against Patents and copyrights.
#2, evidence is shown that they are against software patents, with a copywright notice at the bottom.
#3, Conclusion: Red hat is bad because we say they are against patents and copywrights.
This is idiotic. It's obvious he's just making unsupported claims here. Darl & SCO are retarded and have no leg to stand on. I just hope the NYT points it out this time. There is no evidence that RH is against the US copyright system. And the KEY to the matter is that the SCO v. IBM case is not about PATENTS (which RH and the FSF are against) but about COPYRIGHT, which RH and the FSF are all about. Without copywright, the GPL would be meaningless. boil my blood, darl is a fool. -1, trolling for him.
"That letter can't have been written by a lawyer: it just makes no sense whatsoever. Even someone who ordered his law degree by mail would know better."
I always laughed at the idea that we were supposed to change our passwords every week or whatever.
Seriously, the more i change it, the more it's likely to be "bad" and easy to break, and thus more likely to get cracked. If someone gets my password just once, I'm OWNEd. there's no way around it! Why change more than once a year, unless a known breach occurs? you'll remember it better (no sticky notes)...argh! security.
I have some buddies who do CivE, and i don't think they specialize in "wall repair." Maybe if there was a carpentry school....but then, i'd think the school would hire them. Dude...this is the second time you've posted this analogy. It doesn't work.
Yessir, there are actually critical bugs in open source software. *SHOCK* *HORROR*. That's the point. we have those lists so patches can be made, and updates can be applied. Several of those vulns are repeats, and none but this debian one is really critical. Follow up on those vulns and see how bad they really are
I've had no problems with Mandrake's server software, such as their releases of Apache, proftp, postfix, mysql, etc. The MDK systems i admin (for fun and school) have not gone down without hardware problems...ever...Currently my last reboots were for kernel upgrades for my 9.1 systems (2 weeks), and install day for my 9.2 systems (about 25 days).
MDK on the server is just as good as kernel+server apps, and both are pretty stable for me.
Go To:
us.lgservice.com
and go to Product support, then Device driver, CD-ROM and "Emergency download for Physical Dead Drive from Mandrake Linux 9.2". So you're drive isn't really dead.
Also, by going to LG's site, you can get firmware updates to fix the problem.
And finally...I'm sure Mandrake fixed this problem in newer kernels, as did the Gentoo team for their kernel.
They can't distribute Samba if they at one time violated Samba distribution in reference to the GPL. Of course it will be a big legal hullaballoo and SCO will likely be dead by then, but...yeah.
If SCO loses its suit, it will be found in violation of the GPL, because it added extra conditions onto the end of the GPL. If SCO loses, they will be unable to further distribute that GPL'd code (section 4). So they just kicked themselves out of distributing Linux 2.6.
After bouncing around their site for a bit, i don't really agree with you. They seem to be pretty alive and well, and there is recently released software. *shrug*
The parent is more right than he intends. I would rather a select few used Linux rather than everyone. Sure it's a nice system, but can you imagine the millions of uninformed windows users flocking to the linux camp? AHHH! TOO MANY TO HELP!!!
Seriously. Linux needs a ton of maturity before it goes huge. Or maybe i'm just an idiot.
Let's put you up as the standard of win98se's proof from hackfulness. Let's post your IP to the world as such. Then we'll see.
because, no one cares about cracking win98se. It's no fun. I could gloat if I broke my way into microsoft.com, or fsf.org, or whatever. I would then be "l33t." However, NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOU AND YOUR win98 BOX OK? If for some reason someone did, then they probably could get in.
As an aside, your strategy really is pretty good. You have a no-name computer, no reason to break in. You are on an EOL system - no one cares about breaking into 98 anymore so you are probably pretty secure from an obscurity standpoint. However, if for some reason you ever became more visible, well...let's just say that windows 98 isn't a good place to hide.
There will never be a nuclear explosion from a nuclear power plant. Explosions, maybe. Radiation, yeah. But no nuclear fission/fusion type accidents. It doesn't work like that.
People are just too dang scared of nuclear power because of way too many stupid movies. grarg.
There are a lot of windows zealots. I just read something on securityfocus from one of them, about how it's the user's fault that there are security problems with MS. He's partially right, btw.
however, I kinda laugh because it seems like the linux zealots are getting lazy and the windows zealots are getting scared and desperate....
Applications my man, applications. Usability is close enough that it doesn't matter any more. If you could get every windows game and every windows app for linux, we really wouldn't be having a "linux is good enough" debate. We'd be having a "linux vs. windows on the desktop: what is right for you" argument. And Linux would probably be "right for" most people if the apps were there. And they had broadband.
being most popular doesn't make it the best tool...For your average office+ie+mail desktop, Linux is getting ever closer to not just matching Windows, but being BETTER. Especially in a biz environment where security and managability is important.
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Yes. without copyright law making GPL'd code under the control of its writers, the GNU Public License would be meaningless.
not only that, but the SCO v. IBM case is about COPYRIGHT. the FSF and RH are bashed because they dont like "copyright and software patents." But, the FSF and RH only hate patents. They like copyright. And in the SCO v. IBM case, they fully support US copyright law. So it isnt' even a straw man, it's a false redirect, or bait n switch. or whatever. it's just plain RETARDED, man!
Hrm. So...If linux is in violation of SCO's IP, then why are they running it on their WEB SERVER?
AAAUGH! SCO is so retarded...
-1, flamebait. Seriously...Darl is just asking for it! he's like the world's BEST TROLL EVER. No one else in the entire world has gotten this many geeks mad! Amazing.
Exactly. I noticed the bait n switch technique too -
Darl's argument:
#1, Red Hat is anti-american, because we say they are against Patents and copyrights.
#2, evidence is shown that they are against software patents, with a copywright notice at the bottom.
#3, Conclusion: Red hat is bad because we say they are against patents and copywrights.
This is idiotic. It's obvious he's just making unsupported claims here. Darl & SCO are retarded and have no leg to stand on. I just hope the NYT points it out this time. There is no evidence that RH is against the US copyright system. And the KEY to the matter is that the SCO v. IBM case is not about PATENTS (which RH and the FSF are against) but about COPYRIGHT, which RH and the FSF are all about. Without copywright, the GPL would be meaningless. boil my blood, darl is a fool. -1, trolling for him.
"'You can clearly tell the lawyers wrote it'
"That letter can't have been written by a lawyer: it just makes no sense whatsoever. Even someone who ordered his law degree by mail would know better."
Exactly. PR people wrote it...
But man, that guy lemelson is a whore. And we complain about companies abusing patents. Crap...we really need to fix this system...
I always laughed at the idea that we were supposed to change our passwords every week or whatever.
Seriously, the more i change it, the more it's likely to be "bad" and easy to break, and thus more likely to get cracked. If someone gets my password just once, I'm OWNEd. there's no way around it! Why change more than once a year, unless a known breach occurs? you'll remember it better (no sticky notes)...argh! security.
I have some buddies who do CivE, and i don't think they specialize in "wall repair." Maybe if there was a carpentry school....but then, i'd think the school would hire them. Dude...this is the second time you've posted this analogy. It doesn't work.
Yessir, there are actually critical bugs in open source software. *SHOCK* *HORROR*. That's the point. we have those lists so patches can be made, and updates can be applied. Several of those vulns are repeats, and none but this debian one is really critical. Follow up on those vulns and see how bad they really are
I've had no problems with Mandrake's server software, such as their releases of Apache, proftp, postfix, mysql, etc. The MDK systems i admin (for fun and school) have not gone down without hardware problems...ever...Currently my last reboots were for kernel upgrades for my 9.1 systems (2 weeks), and install day for my 9.2 systems (about 25 days).
MDK on the server is just as good as kernel+server apps, and both are pretty stable for me.
Go To: us.lgservice.com and go to Product support, then Device driver, CD-ROM and "Emergency download for Physical Dead Drive from Mandrake Linux 9.2". So you're drive isn't really dead.
Also, by going to LG's site, you can get firmware updates to fix the problem.
And finally...I'm sure Mandrake fixed this problem in newer kernels, as did the Gentoo team for their kernel.
Yeah? well I heard "apple is on record as saying they WON'T patch anything but the latest version." Cite me a source.
They can't distribute Samba if they at one time violated Samba distribution in reference to the GPL. Of course it will be a big legal hullaballoo and SCO will likely be dead by then, but...yeah.
If SCO loses its suit, it will be found in violation of the GPL, because it added extra conditions onto the end of the GPL. If SCO loses, they will be unable to further distribute that GPL'd code (section 4). So they just kicked themselves out of distributing Linux 2.6.
After bouncing around their site for a bit, i don't really agree with you. They seem to be pretty alive and well, and there is recently released software. *shrug*
The parent is more right than he intends. I would rather a select few used Linux rather than everyone. Sure it's a nice system, but can you imagine the millions of uninformed windows users flocking to the linux camp? AHHH! TOO MANY TO HELP!!!
Seriously. Linux needs a ton of maturity before it goes huge. Or maybe i'm just an idiot.
Let's put you up as the standard of win98se's proof from hackfulness. Let's post your IP to the world as such. Then we'll see.
because, no one cares about cracking win98se. It's no fun. I could gloat if I broke my way into microsoft.com, or fsf.org, or whatever. I would then be "l33t." However, NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOU AND YOUR win98 BOX OK? If for some reason someone did, then they probably could get in.
As an aside, your strategy really is pretty good. You have a no-name computer, no reason to break in. You are on an EOL system - no one cares about breaking into 98 anymore so you are probably pretty secure from an obscurity standpoint. However, if for some reason you ever became more visible, well...let's just say that windows 98 isn't a good place to hide.
There will never be a nuclear explosion from a nuclear power plant. Explosions, maybe. Radiation, yeah. But no nuclear fission/fusion type accidents. It doesn't work like that.
People are just too dang scared of nuclear power because of way too many stupid movies. grarg.
yeah i know its crude and mean but you made me laugh. thanks....still can't stop.
There are a lot of windows zealots. I just read something on securityfocus from one of them, about how it's the user's fault that there are security problems with MS. He's partially right, btw.
however, I kinda laugh because it seems like the linux zealots are getting lazy and the windows zealots are getting scared and desperate....
Applications my man, applications. Usability is close enough that it doesn't matter any more. If you could get every windows game and every windows app for linux, we really wouldn't be having a "linux is good enough" debate. We'd be having a "linux vs. windows on the desktop: what is right for you" argument. And Linux would probably be "right for" most people if the apps were there. And they had broadband.
give it 3 years.
being most popular doesn't make it the best tool...For your average office+ie+mail desktop, Linux is getting ever closer to not just matching Windows, but being BETTER. Especially in a biz environment where security and managability is important.
I still laugh when i see people ask about linux 8.2. Its hilarimous.
Any source for that?