Dump all the code out to the Open Source community. If they haven't worked on it since '99, it really shouldn't be a problem, and Loki Games and creative would have "Official Linux Support", for whatever it's worth.
I don't remember if the Carnivore system changed, but I thought that it listened to everything on the wire. Even with a search warrant for a specific account, a lot of other data may be collected and used in other investigations. It may not be used in court, but it could be used as a basis to dig a little deeper.
Because, if you have nothing to hide, you won't be targeted. I'd hardly take the commentary of a paid analyst who most likely has less knowledgable input on this subject than you or I over the perceptions and views of the encryption community as a whole. Will it not affect us because we will not be monitored, or will it not affect us because it will be seamless implementation that we won't notice? That commentary makes me more worried then the actual topic. I like to know what's going on, and I don't want to be part of a government mushroom treatment of the sheeple.
Angry White Guy
--These comments should be treated as truth until I change my mind
It's already happening. The first step was for the government to put backdoors in encryption, a topic which was already covered here. But that won't cover all the bases. Do you think that the government isn't already searching web pages for signs of stegonography (or however you spell it) or other forms of encryption?
Computing power is not an issue either. The government has proven that they have the computing power already. I just watched a program on Discovery that said the military base built under the adarondack mountains (I think that's where it is) tracks space debris for the shuttle missions. That's got to be quite the cpu ticks on that task, so to divert that to phone taps and internet decryption into that system really wouldn't be that much of an extra load when there's no ships in space.
Angry White Guy
--The illusion of freedom can be more powerful than the expression of it
This has been happening to telephone conversations all over the world. E-mail is only the next logical step.
Exactly how much freedom is going to be given away so that the world feels safe?
And one final thought: Is the compromise of personal freedom easier to swallow when it's done in secret, or is it easier to accept if it is right out in the open? Most people get upset if you tape their telephone conversations on them, or read their e-mail addresses. What makes this any different? Just because it's the government?
Arnold Schwartzanegger's new movie Collateral Damage is being indefinitely put on hiatus as well. O was just released after being canned due to the Columbine incident.
Since when did movies actually start mimicking real life? Thank God we weren't attacked by aliens or Independance Day would have never made it to the big screen. It is a sad day in history when one form of media (news)can shut down another(film), just because they're getting too close together.
They touch Dragonball Z and I'm a madman!
Bluetooth may require hardware support, but don't put it past M$ to create a need for the Windows Bluetooth Printer just like the wintel modem.
If companies can satisfy the majority of the market and build them cheaper, all by having MS support only, don't expect them not to. And if somebody has to fudge standards, the standards will be fudged in favour of Windows. Previous history shows just that.
If I had one thing I could take away, it would be the ability to change the cursor. How did something so heinous evolve from the need to put trails on your mouse for your laptop? Look, it's an arrow. Now it's a castle. Now it's a racecar! Vroom Vroom!
Maybe that's why mice remind me of the ball and chain of yore. Here's a sound for you, Whoosh, Whoosh, Whoosh, SMACK!
How many people allow themes in the workplace? Personally, it is my pet peeve to have to work on somebody's machine that has changed everything around so damned much that you don't know where to begin. Especially on M$, I shudder at the thought of having to look at the screens after the user has changed everything around so much that it is just barely functional.
Click on the Internet Explorer icon. No, I know you have an Internet Explorer icon. It's a blue 'E'. You changed it. Okay, click on the one that says 'Internet Explorer' under it. Oh You changed that too. Why? You didn't like what they called it. Sorry Stan. What, your name's Bob? I didn't like what they called you, so I'm calling you Stan. Shave off your moustache Stan. I Don't like it...
Sarcasm is my last bastion of sanity in the world of user customization.
Old games with new technology! I hope that an honest effort was put into it, to make it the game we all wanted it to be originally, not the one we never wished we had.
I found the link! Electronic fronteir Canada[www.efc.ca]
The legislation states:
Jan 2001: Government agencies must follow the rules
Jan 2002:Health related info (Medical records, etc)
Jan 2004: All businesses must follow
Sorry about the confusion.
There were no provisions made for data readily available before the bill. I receive pre-approved credit cards from TD almost weekly, since I entered the workforce. If they had recent information, I'd never receive a single solicitation.
Angry White Guy
Nobody said the government was perfect, unless it was them.
The Canadians have introduced bills to prevent this from happening. The company must ask your explicit permission or else both companies will be held accountable. This also leaves the door open for the good old fashioned class action lawsuit
I'm just not sure if this was passed already or not. I guess I should find out, being Canadian and all.
Angry White Guy
--Consience is a hinderance only afforded by the common man
Which brings us to the very point of liberties. If you are running a service where anyone can transmit and receive, and somebody uses that for evil purposes, should you be held responsible if you took precaution, if you logged mac addresses, if you cooperated? You are saying that he would be guilty because the attack ran from a point of acces under his control.
IMHO I think that if it even made it to the courts, there would be insufficient evidence to charge him, assuming he is innocent until proven guilty. By spoofing MAC address, that wouldn't incriminate him, unless it was spoofed to his MAC address, and even then, it would still be difficult to successfully charge him.
The feds wont throw you in jail if somebody living in your apartment was a murderer, they would only have to work harder to catch the real murderer.
Nobody is saying that Linux isn't capable enough for the users, just that the users are not capable enough for Linux. How many times have you heard tech support horror stories about CD-Rom's not working, or users forgetting their passwords? How about this one "Ummm, I tried to install a game, but it needed a newer vesion of Glibc, so I tried to install it, and all the dependencies are broken. I need to get my e-mail right now! I have important documents waiting for me, and every minute I don't read them it hurts. You HAVE to fix it NOW NOW NOW!"
That really doesn't appeal to me. You can make Linux foolproof, but you can't make it Damnedfoolproof, and every time we try, they come up with a better fool.
Corel, the Canadian superpower in the Imaging and Paint software long ago, has yet to put out anything that resembled making money. It has been nothing but a blight on the computer community since those great days of yore. Anything that they tried to take from the computer world in general, and the GPL et al. specifically, has become an abomination on computing and economics alike.
Does anyone remember Mr. Cowpland's promise of a platform written in Java for Java by Java? Or the utter failure of Corel Linux (mostly due to its concentration on marketability)? Gentlemen, I do believe that anything that the Corel corporation has touched has turned to festering putresence, and even though I believe that Linux's sustainability means the desktop of the every-day user, I don't think that Linux is ready for the world. I simply do not think that an everyday user or (shudder) management is ready for the power it wields, and a server based on an essentially userless installation is ready for the Internet.
Oh wait, what about NT?
The free2air project sounds interesting, even though it got/.'ed and I couldn't find much information on it, but we have seen in the past the fall of the free dial up and similar plans to create a free internet.
One question: Where does the revenue come from? I imagine that nobody is going to give away bandwidth, and that it would be difficult to force banner ads onto the public to pay for it.
Perhaps if they cached the web and inserted their own banners in the pages, that would genereate some money. But would it be enough? Caching napster traffic to conserve bandwidth would not be a daunting task, and scalability of the networks would also create a problem. How many nodes will 802.11b support, and how much additional equipment would be needed to expand the network would have to be addressed all but immediately.
I'm not saying it wouldn't work, I'm just saying it would be hard to make any money off of it.
Sounds kinda communist to me. Where are all of the capitolists who should be slamming this?
I guess that pure communism in some forms will work, at least until capitolism and greed set in.
I don't know if it's just me or not, but I loved the Anna Kournakova breakout. It just proves that most computer users are not computer specialists. It reaffirms my career choice
I really appreciate the amount of work that goes into a well-written virus, but still marvel at how a piece of junk like Kournakova can bring some of the largest companies to its knees, no matter how much precaution is taken. I got to witness a large portion of Ford and GM's internet capability go down because many of its suppliers got infected and ate up all their bandwidth. Scary to say the least.
Now I don't know how many people here remember virus outbreaks like stoned and Andromeda which relied on stealth rather than the brute force methodologies used today. Those Old school viruses were designed, not written. But as bandwith increased, and more people got wired, the use of smash attacks increased, and there was a signifigant paradigm shift.
The social engineering and evasion methodologies also changed. Extrapolate these tendencies to society, and you have yet another fairly accurate method to judge society and the changes which it has undergone.
Angry White Guy
--Study viruses for fun and profit. Join the ranks of the 5cR1p71n6 1337!
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Dump all the code out to the Open Source community. If they haven't worked on it since '99, it really shouldn't be a problem, and Loki Games and creative would have "Official Linux Support", for whatever it's worth.
Angry White Guy
It only has to be installed in one place to be abused
Angry White Guy
I don't remember if the Carnivore system changed, but I thought that it listened to everything on the wire. Even with a search warrant for a specific account, a lot of other data may be collected and used in other investigations. It may not be used in court, but it could be used as a basis to dig a little deeper.
Angry White Guy
Because, if you have nothing to hide, you won't be targeted. I'd hardly take the commentary of a paid analyst who most likely has less knowledgable input on this subject than you or I over the perceptions and views of the encryption community as a whole.
Will it not affect us because we will not be monitored, or will it not affect us because it will be seamless implementation that we won't notice? That commentary makes me more worried then the actual topic. I like to know what's going on, and I don't want to be part of a government mushroom treatment of the sheeple.
Angry White Guy
--These comments should be treated as truth until I change my mind
It's already happening. The first step was for the government to put backdoors in encryption, a topic which was already covered here. But that won't cover all the bases. Do you think that the government isn't already searching web pages for signs of stegonography (or however you spell it) or other forms of encryption?
Computing power is not an issue either. The government has proven that they have the computing power already. I just watched a program on Discovery that said the military base built under the adarondack mountains (I think that's where it is) tracks space debris for the shuttle missions. That's got to be quite the cpu ticks on that task, so to divert that to phone taps and internet decryption into that system really wouldn't be that much of an extra load when there's no ships in space.
Angry White Guy
--The illusion of freedom can be more powerful than the expression of it
This has been happening to telephone conversations all over the world. E-mail is only the next logical step.
Exactly how much freedom is going to be given away so that the world feels safe?
And one final thought: Is the compromise of personal freedom easier to swallow when it's done in secret, or is it easier to accept if it is right out in the open? Most people get upset if you tape their telephone conversations on them, or read their e-mail addresses. What makes this any different? Just because it's the government?
Angry White Guy
You can't reason with irrationalists.
At least it wasn't a new release.
Angry White Guy
Just makes you think what games we won't have the pleasure of paying for next
Arnold Schwartzanegger's new movie Collateral Damage is being indefinitely put on hiatus as well. O was just released after being canned due to the Columbine incident.
Since when did movies actually start mimicking real life? Thank God we weren't attacked by aliens or Independance Day would have never made it to the big screen. It is a sad day in history when one form of media (news)can shut down another(film), just because they're getting too close together.
They touch Dragonball Z and I'm a madman!
Angry White Guy
--I need my fix of surreality!
Bluetooth may require hardware support, but don't put it past M$ to create a need for the Windows Bluetooth Printer just like the wintel modem.
If companies can satisfy the majority of the market and build them cheaper, all by having MS support only, don't expect them not to. And if somebody has to fudge standards, the standards will be fudged in favour of Windows. Previous history shows just that.
Angry White Guy
I won't let anyone have an open telnet to my box, and neither should they
Angry White Guy
Yeah, this will be great until M$ comes out with its own version of bluetooth, with all the extra features.
Remember Kerebos everyone?
Angry White Guy
--Moderators, this is NOT flamebait
If I had one thing I could take away, it would be the ability to change the cursor. How did something so heinous evolve from the need to put trails on your mouse for your laptop? Look, it's an arrow. Now it's a castle. Now it's a racecar! Vroom Vroom!
Maybe that's why mice remind me of the ball and chain of yore. Here's a sound for you, Whoosh, Whoosh, Whoosh, SMACK!
Angry White Guy
How many people allow themes in the workplace? Personally, it is my pet peeve to have to work on somebody's machine that has changed everything around so damned much that you don't know where to begin.
Especially on M$, I shudder at the thought of having to look at the screens after the user has changed everything around so much that it is just barely functional.
Click on the Internet Explorer icon. No, I know you have an Internet Explorer icon. It's a blue 'E'. You changed it. Okay, click on the one that says 'Internet Explorer' under it. Oh You changed that too. Why? You didn't like what they called it. Sorry Stan. What, your name's Bob? I didn't like what they called you, so I'm calling you Stan. Shave off your moustache Stan. I Don't like it...
Sarcasm is my last bastion of sanity in the world of user customization.
Angry White Guy
--and while you're at it, change the tie too...
Old games with new technology! I hope that an honest effort was put into it, to make it the game we all wanted it to be originally, not the one we never wished we had.
Angry White Guy
I found the link!
Electronic fronteir Canada[www.efc.ca]
The legislation states:
Jan 2001: Government agencies must follow the rules
Jan 2002:Health related info (Medical records, etc)
Jan 2004: All businesses must follow
Sorry about the confusion.
Angry White Guy
At least honesty is your one saving grace.
Angry White Guy
There were no provisions made for data readily available before the bill. I receive pre-approved credit cards from TD almost weekly, since I entered the workforce. If they had recent information, I'd never receive a single solicitation.
Angry White Guy
Nobody said the government was perfect, unless it was them.
Now that's a show of civilization right there! /.?
I expect that you'll lead the charge? Why don't you enlist right now and take a break from
Angry White Guy
or are you destined to become the champion of idiots everywhere?
The Canadians have introduced bills to prevent this from happening. The company must ask your explicit permission or else both companies will be held accountable. This also leaves the door open for the good old fashioned class action lawsuit
I'm just not sure if this was passed already or not. I guess I should find out, being Canadian and all.
Angry White Guy
--Consience is a hinderance only afforded by the common man
Which brings us to the very point of liberties. If you are running a service where anyone can transmit and receive, and somebody uses that for evil purposes, should you be held responsible if you took precaution, if you logged mac addresses, if you cooperated? You are saying that he would be guilty because the attack ran from a point of acces under his control.
IMHO I think that if it even made it to the courts, there would be insufficient evidence to charge him, assuming he is innocent until proven guilty. By spoofing MAC address, that wouldn't incriminate him, unless it was spoofed to his MAC address, and even then, it would still be difficult to successfully charge him.
The feds wont throw you in jail if somebody living in your apartment was a murderer, they would only have to work harder to catch the real murderer.
Angry White Guy
Nobody is saying that Linux isn't capable enough for the users, just that the users are not capable enough for Linux. How many times have you heard tech support horror stories about CD-Rom's not working, or users forgetting their passwords? How about this one "Ummm, I tried to install a game, but it needed a newer vesion of Glibc, so I tried to install it, and all the dependencies are broken. I need to get my e-mail right now! I have important documents waiting for me, and every minute I don't read them it hurts. You HAVE to fix it NOW NOW NOW!"
That really doesn't appeal to me. You can make Linux foolproof, but you can't make it Damnedfoolproof, and every time we try, they come up with a better fool.
Angry White Guy
--LINUX: Like I Need Users + X
Corel, the Canadian superpower in the Imaging and Paint software long ago, has yet to put out anything that resembled making money. It has been nothing but a blight on the computer community since those great days of yore. Anything that they tried to take from the computer world in general, and the GPL et al. specifically, has become an abomination on computing and economics alike.
Does anyone remember Mr. Cowpland's promise of a platform written in Java for Java by Java? Or the utter failure of Corel Linux (mostly due to its concentration on marketability)? Gentlemen, I do believe that anything that the Corel corporation has touched has turned to festering putresence, and even though I believe that Linux's sustainability means the desktop of the every-day user, I don't think that Linux is ready for the world. I simply do not think that an everyday user or (shudder) management is ready for the power it wields, and a server based on an essentially userless installation is ready for the Internet.
Oh wait, what about NT?
Angry White Guy
The free2air project sounds interesting, even though it got /.'ed and I couldn't find much information on it, but we have seen in the past the fall of the free dial up and similar plans to create a free internet.
One question: Where does the revenue come from? I imagine that nobody is going to give away bandwidth, and that it would be difficult to force banner ads onto the public to pay for it.
Perhaps if they cached the web and inserted their own banners in the pages, that would genereate some money. But would it be enough? Caching napster traffic to conserve bandwidth would not be a daunting task, and scalability of the networks would also create a problem. How many nodes will 802.11b support, and how much additional equipment would be needed to expand the network would have to be addressed all but immediately.
I'm not saying it wouldn't work, I'm just saying it would be hard to make any money off of it.
Angry White Guy
Sounds kinda communist to me. Where are all of the capitolists who should be slamming this?
I guess that pure communism in some forms will work, at least until capitolism and greed set in.
Angry White Guy
I don't know if it's just me or not, but I loved the Anna Kournakova breakout. It just proves that most computer users are not computer specialists. It reaffirms my career choice
I really appreciate the amount of work that goes into a well-written virus, but still marvel at how a piece of junk like Kournakova can bring some of the largest companies to its knees, no matter how much precaution is taken. I got to witness a large portion of Ford and GM's internet capability go down because many of its suppliers got infected and ate up all their bandwidth. Scary to say the least.
Now I don't know how many people here remember virus outbreaks like stoned and Andromeda which relied on stealth rather than the brute force methodologies used today. Those Old school viruses were designed, not written. But as bandwith increased, and more people got wired, the use of smash attacks increased, and there was a signifigant paradigm shift.
The social engineering and evasion methodologies also changed. Extrapolate these tendencies to society, and you have yet another fairly accurate method to judge society and the changes which it has undergone.
Angry White Guy
--Study viruses for fun and profit. Join the ranks of the 5cR1p71n6 1337!