The Los Angeles basin isn't what the poster was referring to IMO, but east Los Angeles, and San Bernadino. Have you ever been out to Ontario or Riverside at 3pm on a stagnant July afternoon? I lived in Ontario for 2 years, and I'm not surprised in the least at the fact that San Bernadino county has the worst smog in the United States. Driving out there from Los Angeles in the summer, every single day you could see a thick blanket of black smog hovering above Pomona.
Yeah, my interpretation was that his shame was more the result of the fact that Chernobyl was a disgrace for the Soviet Union, and he does not want to identify himself as someone who people could blame (his being blameness in fact has nothing to do with it).
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Haha! I was about to make the exact same comment, that Anakin should be at his best form after Luke 'saved' him, but your version is way better.
If not having committed evil acts is the definition of goodness, then they should all be babies.
Don't be so negative! It's still a good thing that he wants to use OSS over windows. What do you mean it's a *waste*? How will we ever expect to achieve world domination if we demand that OSS users all release FOSS code?
Who cares if big companies and governments use the free aspect and don't give back. It's better than them supporting Microsoft and enemies of free software.
And you are generalizing when you say that they don't give back to the community, and it's a short-sighted generalization at that. If you make a useful patch to a peice of software, you are going to want it to become part of the official release so that you don't have to patch your software every time you upgrade and deal with conflicts and the like.
Right! If I wasn't so lazy, I'd go look up the wording of SCO's Linux License to see if it in fact grants you license to their IP, or just indemnifies you in the case that Linux does in fact contain their IP. I woulnd't be surprised if it were the second claim, it being more defensible in the case SCO loses their court battle.
I don't understand how SCO hopes they can do any "astroturfing" of their cause. How can they create an impression of a grass-roots campaign from where they stand? What "little guy" gives a damn about SCO and their stupid IP lawsuits?
Does anyone have any ideas on how SCO can hope to create the impression of grass-roots support for them? I don't see any feasible ways that someone could come along and post something which would make me, or any informed person see SCO as anything but a company exploiting IP and the legal process to extort companies out of money.
It's amazing to me that it's even legal for them to offer Linux licenses before establishing in a court that Linux in fact contains their IP. It's like selling the Brooklyn Bridge.. and having it be legal, because the buyer didn't bother to find out if you owned it.
To me, socialism/communism in software would be what would happen if MS had an unchecked monopoly. An unchecked monopoly is exactly what a socialist government is. They hold all the patents.
Basically, I don't like comparing open source / free software to economic systems. What is free has no place in economics.
A provider is only allowed to stream if they can strictly guarantee that only users within the country could access the stream, and then if they could also guarantee that deep linking, open proxies, etc could not be used to access the content. Mostly ineffective, but managers ignorantly listened.
Heh. Then by the law, nobody should be able to stream. This is the kind of thing a provider just can't strictly gaurantee. I wonder how many decades it will be until contracts which demand the impossible will be recognized as such.
You say it's not goign to be as easy as to just use an open proxy, then you say you restrict access to specific IP addresses. If one of those IP addresses serves as a proxy, it will be precisely that easy.
I feel bad for you, having to work in that environment. An event like the Olympics being restricted and sold off like this is rediculous. It's the freaking Olympics! No wonder it's declining in popularity if the Olympics Authorities are so clearly manipulating the Olympics in a for-profit environment like this; the Olympics are supposed to be more of a public institution than a privatized highly restricted event.
The idea is though, that you will not ever have the ability to unscrew anything yourself. Remember the story about the car with a welded-shut hood? I don't think anybody has a problem with the remote control access in and of itself, but there are some technical issues that are horribly annoying with them (What powers them? What kind of hell of wires will have to be added to power each fucking screw in the vehicle? So now I can never work on a car without having a battery connected? What if I'm working on wiring? Connect, unscrew, Disconnect.. work work.. Connect, unscrew, Disconnect.. repeat).
Also, as the article was indicating, this is clearly not about consumer convenience. This is about making it easier to create proprietary lock-ins so customers do not have a choice on who they allow to service their car. This is every bit as evil as DVD-CSS, hoods welded shut, and everything else that makes it illegal to 'Do It Yourself'. Could you imagine someone being prosecuted under the DMCA for attempting to change their oil (breaking the encryption on the bolts.. or even breaking the bolts)?
This kind of stuff angers me to the point that I would not purchase a car with these kind of proprietary lock-ins, just as I wouldn't buy a computer that had to be sent back to the manufacturers to be fixed (Note: I don't own a laptop:).
It's amazing that car companies think they can get away with this kind of stuff. Thank god for anti-trust legislation, as ineffectual as it is (glare at Microsoft), at least it's something.
Hopefully, cars with stupid lock-ins like this will receive a public perception of expensive maintenance, and only be bought by idiots.
Ignorance in the market sucks. It's like, we don't have enough time to be sure of our product decisions, to research every little damn thing and make intelligent decisions--and corporations count on this, constantly doing more and more devious things, until every corporation is devious in order to compete, and the consumer has no choices left to worry about. Sonsofbitches!
So far as I can tell, they are losing solely on the merits.
You could attribute the apparent lack of action to just that; the fact that we know SCO is going down. There is not much for the average Linux user to do to speed this up except for the things which have been done -- detailed analysis of SCO's claims (which I'm sure IBMs people have found helpful), (often successful) attempts to soil SCO's PR, support for vendors being sued by SCO (there was a movement for OSS folk to buy something from AutoZone after the suit against them was announced). If there was something else the community could do, it would do it.
I don't think he meant quantity of the crap, but quality.
Sure, there is less information from using bugmenot logins, but that isn't what NYT wants. If NYT didn't want a database full over people who visit the site every 6-12 months, they wouldn't require registration at all.
NYT wants a database full of individual readers, so they can track their reading habits, see what people click on, what people are interested in.
Remember the article the other day about the secrecy surrounding cell phone outages because the Homeland Security folk believe it serves as a "terrorist blueprint"?
Watch, as the internet becomes more and more part of the infrastructure of the worldwide information systems, companies in the future will lobby for a similar bogus-security rationalization for keeping internet-infrastructure compromises secret.
Not that relevant to the article I suppose, but an interesting angle.
But, OpenOffice supporting MS Word is backwards in terms of licensing. In that case, the OSS software is supporting the use of proprietary file formats. The movement encouraged by the support is towards free software, not away from it.
This is slashdot. You should expect animosity towards vendors of non-free software by now. Reading Macromedia's PR stuff, you can certainly see a bit of spin towards their products. On Slashdot, that's FUD, Q.E.D. You know that:)
Are you really asking what writing a replacement for ELF has to do with the issue at hand? Did you read the article, or even just the part I quoted? That SCO spokesman directly addressed the implications of ELF being removed from Linux.
(Sorry if I responded to the part of the article I wanted to, instead of the part of the article you wanted me to...)
Claiming that Linux could not survive without ELF *is* FUD. It is FEAR, as in fear that Linux will evaporate due to the loss of ELF, UNCERTAINTY that companies will have due to the spokesman's (and the articles) non-technical comments, and DOUBT that Linux will remain a stable business platform.
Distribution makers, and Linux-from-scratch recompile the entire GNU/Linux codebase from scratch all the time. It's not that big of a deal.
ELF is like mortar to the operating system. Stripped out, all its applications would break. And, according to SCO spokesman Blake Stowell, it would not be something that the Linux community could simply rewrite, which is the Linux adherent's pat solution to SCO's infringement issues.
And why exactly would the Linux community be unable to write a replacement to ELF? And why is "Linux Business Week" playing up the SCO FUD? If ELF was to be removed and a new binary format introduced, it's not as if all Linux applications would break. It's so rediculous to even talk about ELF being "stripped out" of applications. You would just rebuild the application and have the compiler link it into the new binary format.
It's to meet the daily bash-Slashdot quota. Along with the pointless rants about the Shared Source article earlier, the entire point of your reply is to have endless discussions on the relative legitimacy of Slashdot postings that have already been had countless times before, mixed in with the occasional expression of tiring with occasional vaporware jokes and baseless government insults.
But hey, this is Slashdot. Looks like you got your mod points back, surprisingly.
Anyway, I feel that you picked the wrong article to bash Slashdot on. While I agree that Slashdot occasionally posts articles on unimportant, redundant, or just plain stupid material, this time the article referenced actually has some interesting information.
Well, even though the judge's ruling was on Monday, the article only came out yesterday at 4:19pm ET. But yes, still, that's not quite "breaking news" 24 hours later.
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The Los Angeles basin isn't what the poster was referring to IMO, but east Los Angeles, and San Bernadino. Have you ever been out to Ontario or Riverside at 3pm on a stagnant July afternoon? I lived in Ontario for 2 years, and I'm not surprised in the least at the fact that San Bernadino county has the worst smog in the United States. Driving out there from Los Angeles in the summer, every single day you could see a thick blanket of black smog hovering above Pomona.
Yeah, my interpretation was that his shame was more the result of the fact that Chernobyl was a disgrace for the Soviet Union, and he does not want to identify himself as someone who people could blame (his being blameness in fact has nothing to do with it).
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Haha! I was about to make the exact same comment, that Anakin should be at his best form after Luke 'saved' him, but your version is way better. If not having committed evil acts is the definition of goodness, then they should all be babies.
Not really, because you could still guess what the pad is on your first shot. It's not likely, but its not "impossible".
Who cares if big companies and governments use the free aspect and don't give back. It's better than them supporting Microsoft and enemies of free software.
And you are generalizing when you say that they don't give back to the community, and it's a short-sighted generalization at that. If you make a useful patch to a peice of software, you are going to want it to become part of the official release so that you don't have to patch your software every time you upgrade and deal with conflicts and the like.
Have more confidence in the OSS model! Yeesh.
Right! If I wasn't so lazy, I'd go look up the wording of SCO's Linux License to see if it in fact grants you license to their IP, or just indemnifies you in the case that Linux does in fact contain their IP. I woulnd't be surprised if it were the second claim, it being more defensible in the case SCO loses their court battle.
Does anyone have any ideas on how SCO can hope to create the impression of grass-roots support for them? I don't see any feasible ways that someone could come along and post something which would make me, or any informed person see SCO as anything but a company exploiting IP and the legal process to extort companies out of money.
It's amazing to me that it's even legal for them to offer Linux licenses before establishing in a court that Linux in fact contains their IP. It's like selling the Brooklyn Bridge.. and having it be legal, because the buyer didn't bother to find out if you owned it.
Basically, I don't like comparing open source / free software to economic systems. What is free has no place in economics.
Goddamnit you guys have finally succeeded in drawing me in to your bogus political discussions.
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You say it's not goign to be as easy as to just use an open proxy, then you say you restrict access to specific IP addresses. If one of those IP addresses serves as a proxy, it will be precisely that easy.
I feel bad for you, having to work in that environment. An event like the Olympics being restricted and sold off like this is rediculous. It's the freaking Olympics! No wonder it's declining in popularity if the Olympics Authorities are so clearly manipulating the Olympics in a for-profit environment like this; the Olympics are supposed to be more of a public institution than a privatized highly restricted event.
Also, as the article was indicating, this is clearly not about consumer convenience. This is about making it easier to create proprietary lock-ins so customers do not have a choice on who they allow to service their car. This is every bit as evil as DVD-CSS, hoods welded shut, and everything else that makes it illegal to 'Do It Yourself'. Could you imagine someone being prosecuted under the DMCA for attempting to change their oil (breaking the encryption on the bolts.. or even breaking the bolts)?
It's amazing that car companies think they can get away with this kind of stuff. Thank god for anti-trust legislation, as ineffectual as it is (glare at Microsoft), at least it's something.
Hopefully, cars with stupid lock-ins like this will receive a public perception of expensive maintenance, and only be bought by idiots.
Ignorance in the market sucks. It's like, we don't have enough time to be sure of our product decisions, to research every little damn thing and make intelligent decisions--and corporations count on this, constantly doing more and more devious things, until every corporation is devious in order to compete, and the consumer has no choices left to worry about. Sonsofbitches!
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Sure, there is less information from using bugmenot logins, but that isn't what NYT wants. If NYT didn't want a database full over people who visit the site every 6-12 months, they wouldn't require registration at all.
NYT wants a database full of individual readers, so they can track their reading habits, see what people click on, what people are interested in.
Watch, as the internet becomes more and more part of the infrastructure of the worldwide information systems, companies in the future will lobby for a similar bogus-security rationalization for keeping internet-infrastructure compromises secret.
Not that relevant to the article I suppose, but an interesting angle.
This is slashdot. You should expect animosity towards vendors of non-free software by now. Reading Macromedia's PR stuff, you can certainly see a bit of spin towards their products. On Slashdot, that's FUD, Q.E.D. You know that :)
Claiming that Linux could not survive without ELF *is* FUD. It is FEAR, as in fear that Linux will evaporate due to the loss of ELF, UNCERTAINTY that companies will have due to the spokesman's (and the articles) non-technical comments, and DOUBT that Linux will remain a stable business platform.
Distribution makers, and Linux-from-scratch recompile the entire GNU/Linux codebase from scratch all the time. It's not that big of a deal.
But hey, this is Slashdot. Looks like you got your mod points back, surprisingly.
Anyway, I feel that you picked the wrong article to bash Slashdot on. While I agree that Slashdot occasionally posts articles on unimportant, redundant, or just plain stupid material, this time the article referenced actually has some interesting information.
Well, even though the judge's ruling was on Monday, the article only came out yesterday at 4:19pm ET. But yes, still, that's not quite "breaking news" 24 hours later.