It's freaky that is for sure. Wired had a good story on it from back in 1998. But it is even more apropos now, a recent story brings up the good point
"It's really hard to escape from your past now if your past included electronic conversations," Jerry Franks, an open source programmer, said in an e-mail. "We're probably the first generation whose 'permanent record,' will follow us for life, exactly as our high school principal warned us it would."
For the love of god, in college my friend used his roomates email and posted this
If anyone can imagine a gravy-lickin' good time, here's all you have
: to do:
I tablespoon Heinz chicken gravy, applied generously to one's penis.
1, preferably two bowls of Northern Lights #5, and an eager:bull terrier, and you're good to go!
: BTW may I suggest a new newsgroup alt.drugs.pot.bestiality?
That is a hell of a permenant record to live down.
I would say that the new version has a long way to go to beat the Ralph Bakshi animated version. For the love of god he was using Rotoscoping (probably one of the first) 24 years before Linklater in "Waking Life"!!
In any event, I am sure some of the more long in the tooth/.ers can recall that the animated Lord of the Rings (The Fellowship of the Ring) was received to mixed reviews and made more than 7 times its production costs. Therefore, the mixed reviews don't bother me so much.
I read that Packer suffered a Citizen Kane-like have-everything-breakdown and to add some spice in his life raped a Sumatran Rat Monkey. The rat monkey gave birth to a huge carnivorous litter and now he must import massive amounts of animals in order to quench its ravinous appetite. But hey at least he is looking out for us humans! Though just to be clear on the legal side, this story is not yet confirmed.
Of equal importance, perhaps, might be the question who did they survey who was not online? I would like to meet the person who gave the answer to the question "Why not online?" (p26)
I found the information I needed, so I don?t need
it anymore
This man or woman must have tapped right into the godhead and accessed the answer to life, the universe and everything. I wonder what search engine they use?
How about an offtopic useless MS post on slashdot? I just found out that I can no longer go to msn.com using mozilla as a browser. In fact it says
"If you are seeing this page, we have detected that the browser that you are using will not render MSN.com correctly. Additionally, you'll see the most advanced functionality of MSN.com only with the latest version of Microsoft Internet Explorer or MSN Explorer. If you wish to visit MSN.com, please select the appropriate download link below." It then lists links to Explorer for Windows, Mac and MSN explorer for windows.
Apparently I can not go "HOME where my thought's escaping, HOME where my music's playing, HOME where my love lies waiting...silently for me" with Mozilla taking me there.
Maybe the theme song for msn should be "Cell Therapy" by Goodie Mob with its "But every now and then, I wonder If the gate was put up to keep crime out or to keep our ass in"
Granted it is a contentious thing for Microsoft to want to have a direct relationship with its Windowed users. Most sane folks would probably agree that letting MS in on your life would be to let a "bad" (or something along those lines) company have access to "who you are."
However, just last Friday there was a book review on Gonzo marketing and heads were busting nuts all over themselves with the idea that marketers should be allowed to directly charm them with products that they know they would be interested in because they would have a relationship with them.
So my question really (in general) is why it alright to foster relationships with marketers who are not part of Microsoft, but frightening to divulge info to Microsoft.
Hell, I don't want anyone to know more about my personal habits than I know about myself, MS or doubleclick or anyone, but it doesn't seem to ad (oh that subtle humour) up that it would just be bad for MS to have a relationship.
Perhaps I don't fully understand "Gonzo Marketing" (advertisers are so cutting edge and wacky) but from what I understand of micromarketing it is what the scum of the earth will use to get you to own worthless crap(as Deltron says "Flame on, baby, flame on").
Seriously though, I am assuming this is a wider version of target marketing which basically says that you advertise certain products to certain markets based on things such as where you live (ie certain zipcodes are broken down into more or less "Trucks and Guns," "Ferraris and Hottubs" etc) so that those money isn't wasted on those who aren't considered part of the intended audience. Of course, there is nothing wrong with this in theory. The problem comes, I think, on more subtle planes. MacLaughlin writes But globalization has been cutting the mass market into smaller and smaller pieces for many years now. This is true and this is where target marketing comes in. It takes those small slices and feeds them only the type of items that they as a group are expected to want. Sure, this is pure theory, but what certain folks like Joseph Turow argue in his book Breaking Up America explicate, in a manner much more lucid than this, is that target marketing just further divides Americans into small non-interchangeable sections that have images as ideals that are only created for them (to bastardize his arguement).
So, Gonzo marketing. Ford is giving its employees computers to go out into the web community, watch them and figure out what they like, what they want, how they talk, how they communicate. But what is the goal? The goal is to create images that reflect what small segments of the population want. Life becomes less of a search and more of a pick and choose. Employees become employees around the clock, walking viral marketers. Citizenship takes a backseat to selling and we all become full time spies for our companies. Great.
There is an article in yesterdays (Thurs 9/27/01) Wall Street Journal about how Biometrics wouldn't have helped in the terrorism case, that is, it wouldn't have worked in picking up the faces of the two guys who they have on tape passing through Maine's airport. Basically the article says that face recognition technology doesn't work as effective as they hawk it out to. Actually following the hijackings the companies developing biometric products went on record saying that if their products had been in place then this would have been averted and their stocks rocked up. The WSJ puts a doubt on that. Their point, or the point of the person they interview who agues that it doesn't work that well is that cameras would have to zoom in and cover each face for longer than a camera in an open space like an airport or a football stadium possibly could be expected to.
It actually puts some stats to the Superbowl Biometrics scam where they used face-recognition at last years SB. Turns out that of the 11 or howeverthefuckmany people they said they nabbed, most, were not correct matches.
I used to get mad at the opening track on Mos Def's Black on Both Sides when he says
You got a lot of socities and governments
tryin to be God, wishin that they were God
They wanna create satellites and cameras everywhere
and make you think they got the all-seein eye
Eh.. I guess The Last Poets wasn't, too far off
when they said that certain people got a God Complex
I believe it's true
I don't get phased out by none of that, none of that
helicopters, the TV screens, the newscasters, the..
satellite dishes.. they just, wishin
They can't really never do that
Hell yeah they can! Well, at least for now, maybe they can't. In any event, if you have a WSJ from yesterday lying around. A very good piece.
I should suspect that the.gov and Disney will rally folks to the cause by co-working on a film whereby a young boy realizes that the only way his wayward traveling hacker of a dad will come back to the family is when "the US wins the war." Following a good old fashioned American prayer session a CEO makes him the CTO and voila a rag-tag group of washed up hackers and coders (Tony Danza as "hckN4beats") come together to crash the massive infrastructure that is Afghanistan thereby reuniting said boy with poppa - Cyberangels in the Outfield.
Coincidentally is this what Horge Mush was talking about when on his inauguration he started tossing out quotes about angels in a whirlwind?"
The most interesting part of the article might be that the kiddies want the toys taken away from them.
"Babson math professor Joe Aieta said his students have told him the temptation to use the Internet during class is too great when it is at their fingertips. That's why Aieta occasionally limits their access."
I don't really know what it represents to be honest. On the one hand it could just be (overly generally) a sign that they aren't looking for complete freedom, that especially the youths need some kind of strictures so that they can stay in a learning environment. On the other hand it may be a sign that they don't believe they can trust themselves to make decisions for the good of their future when they have a chance to talk about the azz on the guy or gal sitting in the second seat, first row. I don't know, is that frightening? I think it is frightening if it is a representation that these kids need to have an authority that limits their rights, because otherwise they don't feel they can perform in a social setting the way they are meant (ie paying for) to.
another artist who has been doing the same sort of things probably for a much longer time & that might be worth sneaking a peek at is Stelarc. There is also an interview with him at ctheory in the archives.
I must admit I never took that much either. Besides the standards, your pens, mouse, coffee, and postage, I had to go in late at night and remove the overhead screen from the meeting room as at the company xmass party a friend who I invited, a librarian (and we all know how they can be prrrrrrrrrr....) got wasted and thinking she was writing on a dry erase board actually scribbled "corporate pigs" on the overhead. Suffice to say someone blamed the mysteriously missing screen on a departed salesperson.
If you need to verify this story you can check the garbage dumps in Boston)
KFC takes debit, as I can attest. They also brought back the buckets, instead of the boxes that they had been using. Rumour has it that it was going to be a tie-in for Buckethead being the new Guns 'n' Roses guitarist.
Just what the poor, poor martians need, a whole high tech garbage bag full of poems that read like bad Robert Smith songs and buisness cards for sales reps in case the martians ever reveal themselves and need to market themselves in the global, uh, intergalactic economy.
What I don't understand is that a business card is $2,500, but 8.5 x 11 inch pages are "expected to be under $50 per page?" I don't have a business card, so I have't been paying attention to their evolution, but I hadn't realized that they had evolved to chest size placards. A much better waste of money would be on the equally idiotic residensea.
He should have tossed in Marlon Wayans jar jar impersonation from the deleted scenes Requium for A Dream dvd. Twas better than all of episode 1. The sight is completely wacked in any event.
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It's freaky that is for sure. Wired had a good story on it from back in 1998. But it is even more apropos now, a recent story brings up the good point
:bull terrier, and you're good to go!
: BTW may I suggest a new newsgroup alt.drugs.pot.bestiality?
"It's really hard to escape from your past now if your past included electronic conversations," Jerry Franks, an open source programmer, said in an e-mail. "We're probably the first generation whose 'permanent record,' will follow us for life, exactly as our high school principal warned us it would."
For the love of god, in college my friend used his roomates email and posted this
If anyone can imagine a gravy-lickin' good time, here's all you have : to do: I tablespoon Heinz chicken gravy, applied generously to one's penis. 1, preferably two bowls of Northern Lights #5, and an eager
That is a hell of a permenant record to live down.
I would say that the new version has a long way to go to beat the Ralph Bakshi animated version. For the love of god he was using Rotoscoping (probably one of the first) 24 years before Linklater in "Waking Life"!!
/.ers can recall that the animated Lord of the Rings (The Fellowship of the Ring) was received to mixed reviews and made more than 7 times its production costs. Therefore, the mixed reviews don't bother me so much.
In any event, I am sure some of the more long in the tooth
I read that Packer suffered a Citizen Kane-like have-everything-breakdown and to add some spice in his life raped a Sumatran Rat Monkey. The rat monkey gave birth to a huge carnivorous litter and now he must import massive amounts of animals in order to quench its ravinous appetite. But hey at least he is looking out for us humans! Though just to be clear on the legal side, this story is not yet confirmed.
Of equal importance, perhaps, might be the question who did they survey who was not online? I would like to meet the person who gave the answer to the question "Why not online?" (p26) I found the information I needed, so I don?t need it anymore This man or woman must have tapped right into the godhead and accessed the answer to life, the universe and everything. I wonder what search engine they use?
How about an offtopic useless MS post on slashdot? I just found out that I can no longer go to msn.com using mozilla as a browser. In fact it says
"If you are seeing this page, we have detected that the browser that you are using will not render MSN.com correctly. Additionally, you'll see the most advanced functionality of MSN.com only with the latest version of Microsoft Internet Explorer or MSN Explorer. If you wish to visit MSN.com, please select the appropriate download link below." It then lists links to Explorer for Windows, Mac and MSN explorer for windows.
Apparently I can not go
"HOME where my thought's escaping,
HOME where my music's playing,
HOME where my love lies waiting...silently for me"
with Mozilla taking me there.
Maybe the theme song for msn should be "Cell Therapy" by Goodie Mob with its "But every now and then, I wonder If the gate was put up to keep crime out or to keep our ass in"
Here is Sen. Feingold's statement from the senate floor. Didn't see it anywhere else up here.
He breaks out a great quote "The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance."
Granted it is a contentious thing for Microsoft to want to have a direct relationship with its Windowed users. Most sane folks would probably agree that letting MS in on your life would be to let a "bad" (or something along those lines) company have access to "who you are."
However, just last Friday there was a book review on Gonzo marketing and heads were busting nuts all over themselves with the idea that marketers should be allowed to directly charm them with products that they know they would be interested in because they would have a relationship with them.
So my question really (in general) is why it alright to foster relationships with marketers who are not part of Microsoft, but frightening to divulge info to Microsoft.
Hell, I don't want anyone to know more about my personal habits than I know about myself, MS or doubleclick or anyone, but it doesn't seem to ad (oh that subtle humour) up that it would just be bad for MS to have a relationship.
Perhaps I don't fully understand "Gonzo Marketing" (advertisers are so cutting edge and wacky) but from what I understand of micromarketing it is what the scum of the earth will use to get you to own worthless crap(as Deltron says "Flame on, baby, flame on").
Seriously though, I am assuming this is a wider version of target marketing which basically says that you advertise certain products to certain markets based on things such as where you live (ie certain zipcodes are broken down into more or less "Trucks and Guns," "Ferraris and Hottubs" etc) so that those money isn't wasted on those who aren't considered part of the intended audience. Of course, there is nothing wrong with this in theory. The problem comes, I think, on more subtle planes. MacLaughlin writes But globalization has been cutting the mass market into smaller and smaller pieces for many years now. This is true and this is where target marketing comes in. It takes those small slices and feeds them only the type of items that they as a group are expected to want. Sure, this is pure theory, but what certain folks like Joseph Turow argue in his book Breaking Up America explicate, in a manner much more lucid than this, is that target marketing just further divides Americans into small non-interchangeable sections that have images as ideals that are only created for them (to bastardize his arguement).
So, Gonzo marketing. Ford is giving its employees computers to go out into the web community, watch them and figure out what they like, what they want, how they talk, how they communicate. But what is the goal? The goal is to create images that reflect what small segments of the population want. Life becomes less of a search and more of a pick and choose. Employees become employees around the clock, walking viral marketers. Citizenship takes a backseat to selling and we all become full time spies for our companies. Great.
Anyhow, personally I don't like it.
There is an article in yesterdays (Thurs 9/27/01) Wall Street Journal about how Biometrics wouldn't have helped in the terrorism case, that is, it wouldn't have worked in picking up the faces of the two guys who they have on tape passing through Maine's airport. Basically the article says that face recognition technology doesn't work as effective as they hawk it out to. Actually following the hijackings the companies developing biometric products went on record saying that if their products had been in place then this would have been averted and their stocks rocked up. The WSJ puts a doubt on that. Their point, or the point of the person they interview who agues that it doesn't work that well is that cameras would have to zoom in and cover each face for longer than a camera in an open space like an airport or a football stadium possibly could be expected to.
It actually puts some stats to the Superbowl Biometrics scam where they used face-recognition at last years SB. Turns out that of the 11 or howeverthefuckmany people they said they nabbed, most, were not correct matches.
I used to get mad at the opening track on Mos Def's Black on Both Sides when he says
You got a lot of socities and governments
tryin to be God, wishin that they were God
They wanna create satellites and cameras everywhere
and make you think they got the all-seein eye
Eh.. I guess The Last Poets wasn't, too far off
when they said that certain people got a God Complex
I believe it's true
I don't get phased out by none of that, none of that
helicopters, the TV screens, the newscasters, the..
satellite dishes.. they just, wishin
They can't really never do that
Hell yeah they can! Well, at least for now, maybe they can't. In any event, if you have a WSJ from yesterday lying around. A very good piece.
I should suspect that the .gov and Disney will rally folks to the cause by co-working on a film whereby a young boy realizes that the only way his wayward traveling hacker of a dad will come back to the family is when "the US wins the war." Following a good old fashioned American prayer session a CEO makes him the CTO and voila a rag-tag group of washed up hackers and coders (Tony Danza as "hckN4beats") come together to crash the massive infrastructure that is Afghanistan thereby reuniting said boy with poppa - Cyberangels in the Outfield.
Coincidentally is this what Horge Mush was talking about when on his inauguration he started tossing out quotes about angels in a whirlwind?"
The most interesting part of the article might be that the kiddies want the toys taken away from them.
"Babson math professor Joe Aieta said his students have told him the temptation to use the Internet during class is too great when it is at their fingertips. That's why Aieta occasionally limits their access."
I don't really know what it represents to be honest. On the one hand it could just be (overly generally) a sign that they aren't looking for complete freedom, that especially the youths need some kind of strictures so that they can stay in a learning environment. On the other hand it may be a sign that they don't believe they can trust themselves to make decisions for the good of their future when they have a chance to talk about the azz on the guy or gal sitting in the second seat, first row. I don't know, is that frightening? I think it is frightening if it is a representation that these kids need to have an authority that limits their rights, because otherwise they don't feel they can perform in a social setting the way they are meant (ie paying for) to.
another artist who has been doing the same sort of things probably for a much longer time & that might be worth sneaking a peek at is Stelarc. There is also an interview with him at ctheory in the archives.
I must admit I never took that much either. Besides the standards, your pens, mouse, coffee, and postage, I had to go in late at night and remove the overhead screen from the meeting room as at the company xmass party a friend who I invited, a librarian (and we all know how they can be prrrrrrrrrr....) got wasted and thinking she was writing on a dry erase board actually scribbled "corporate pigs" on the overhead. Suffice to say someone blamed the mysteriously missing screen on a departed salesperson.
If you need to verify this story you can check the garbage dumps in Boston)
KFC takes debit, as I can attest. They also brought back the buckets, instead of the boxes that they had been using. Rumour has it that it was going to be a tie-in for Buckethead being the new Guns 'n' Roses guitarist.
Just what the poor, poor martians need, a whole high tech garbage bag full of poems that read like bad Robert Smith songs and buisness cards for sales reps in case the martians ever reveal themselves and need to market themselves in the global, uh, intergalactic economy.
What I don't understand is that a business card is $2,500, but 8.5 x 11 inch pages are "expected to be under $50 per page?" I don't have a business card, so I have't been paying attention to their evolution, but I hadn't realized that they had evolved to chest size placards. A much better waste of money would be on the equally idiotic residensea.
well so much for the link.
He should have tossed in Marlon Wayans jar jar impersonation from the deleted scenes Requium for A Dream dvd. Twas better than all of episode 1. The sight is completely wacked in any event.