*BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK!* You're a shill! *BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAK!*
"Within two years 10% of all corporate desktops worldwide will be linux. In the US the penetration will be around 3%. Within five years the figure will be over 50% world wide."
I hope that day comes. Seriously.
"Within five years the home computer will go away to be replaced by an array of smaller special purpose devices."
No, this will not happen. The home computer isn't going anywhere. Now, if you're saying a lot of what we're doing today will be done via appliances... I sort of agree with you there. I agree there'll be a lot of special purpose devices in use. However, the personal computer isn't goiong to die.
"I know you don't agree, just copy and paste this someplace and check back with me to see if my predictions come true."
"this is off-topic, but you could ask the neighbours kids, they usually will do it for a couple of quid...(unless this is a personal interest i wouldn't go ahead with it)"
I'm gonna ramble off-topic a bit here, too. I just wanted to say I appreciate the tact of your post here. Seems like on every ask slashdot, there's some git that gets modded up for saying "do it in the traditional way!" in a condescending and hostile tone. I just liked the friendly way you posted this suggestion. I hope it catches on.
"Here in Sweden we have had 24mbps dsl network for quite some time now... both vdsl and adsl2+"
I have 3 megabits now, and at my previous job we had a 7-megabit line. I've only run into a couple of sites that could saturate either one. (Microsoft has kick ass hosting, btw.) Have you found a lot of benefit for having that much speed? (I imagine that in Sweden, you look at different sites than I do?) Just curious if you'd notice the difference between the two. I saw a huge difference going from 768k to 3 megabits, but not 3 megabits to 7 megabits here in the USA.
Unless you're interested in paying the early adopter price, I don't think you'll be upgraded for free. I imagine it'll be a year or two before it is worth considering for you.
I guess what I'm saying is "assume you won't be getting it for 2 years, and make a decision based on knowing that." That's what I'd do.
The attitude in general they have pisses me off. They don't see a new broadcast medium that offers exciting new capabilities, they see their customers magically becoming thieves. Then, they cause that prophecy to become fulfilled by airing anti-piracy commercials that inform people they can download movies for free of the internet.
"I'm just pointing out that when ISPs offer more speed, they also increase the price, something the article poster didnt mention"
Not always true. Comcast started at 1.5 megabits for me and then magically jumped to 3 megabits without telling me. The initial service will probably cost more, but eventually your connection is likely to just magically get faster. Either that or a competitor will ofer you more for the same amount of money.
You win if you want to pay more, you win if you don't want to pay more.
"The word never changes. The meaning never changes."
As long as confusion still exists, then my point is valid. If you'd like to have a more detailed discussion, log in. Prove to me that you really feel the way you do as opposed to just attacking.
"With the exception of "Check licensing model...", which is mostly FUD, that all seems rather sensible. Or am I missing something?"
At this point, it has more to do with the individual users (or corps) than it does with 'who is right or wrong?' I care about the 'no scripting' phase as I wouldn't use it if it were there and don't know anybody else who would, another guy will come along and say "but if you've got to do this little task, you're sunk with MS!" Which is perfectly legitimate for him.
I personally have had good experiences, in general, with MS related products. I will tell you all about a couple of nasty MS gotchas that I think Linux would be immune to:
1.) MS spontaneously decided to switch to a registration system where the apps call home. Though that company I was with had nothing to worry about, it raised the paranoia flag. We switched computers around fairly regularly. At what point would we be accused of over-using the product?
2.) The occasional upgrade brought us trouble. We were quite happy with Outlook 2000. Quite productive with it. However, Outlook XP (2002?) materialized on a couple of new laptops. In an effort to be more secure, they killed the ability to send.EXEs through OLXP. (kinda sucks when engineers are passing little apps back and forth) A problem? Yes, if you don't know about it. We thought it wasn't attaching or that the mail server was broken. Took us forver to figure out that OLXP was blocking, and they provided NO INTERFACE to turn that off! Registry hack. Ugh.
The point? MS upgrades filled us with fear. If you're choosing between OSS and MS about switching to MS, be prepared to accept that.
I just love how the definition of 'free' mutates depending on who's talking about what. For example, free is good when talking about Linux no matter what the TCO is because it comes with source code. But free is bad when talking about Microsoft because of words like "DRM" and "monopoly" etc.
I know this post isn't going to earn me any popularity here. That's fine. All I ask is that you take away this one little statement from me: if the word free dynamically changes and confuses people, stop using it. Don't use free when one person's thinking licensing cost and another's thinking about source code. Everybody values each of those factors seperately.
Built in 802.11, a stylus that can do things like on-line chat without covering the screen. *I* am excited. If Nintendo did this right (guess I'll find out when the thing finally arrives...) then I can play against people on-line from my couch instead of at my desk.
"Besides- note the [reference.com] after the link- a sure sign that there's a mismatch between the description and the link. Though this might be a preference in showing links, I'm not sure."
Yes, it is a preference, and yes it does help. Very nice of Slashdot to do. Unfortunately, they keep turnign up IE exploits that hide the true domain. That is what changed my mind in the first place about HTML links.
"Thus you failed to follow directions, didn't you?" (From another post)
Following directions is optional if you're trying to mislead somebody.
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"Mark my words shill boy."
*BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK!* You're a shill! *BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAK!*
"Within two years 10% of all corporate desktops worldwide will be linux. In the US the penetration will be around 3%. Within five years the figure will be over 50% world wide."
I hope that day comes. Seriously.
"Within five years the home computer will go away to be replaced by an array of smaller special purpose devices."
No, this will not happen. The home computer isn't going anywhere. Now, if you're saying a lot of what we're doing today will be done via appliances... I sort of agree with you there. I agree there'll be a lot of special purpose devices
in use. However, the personal computer isn't goiong to die.
"I know you don't agree, just copy and paste this someplace and check back with me to see if my predictions come true."
There you go, making faulty assumptions again.
"this is off-topic, but you could ask the neighbours kids, they usually will do it for a couple of quid...(unless this is a personal interest i wouldn't go ahead with it)"
I'm gonna ramble off-topic a bit here, too. I just wanted to say I appreciate the tact of your post here. Seems like on every ask slashdot, there's some git that gets modded up for saying "do it in the traditional way!" in a condescending and hostile tone. I just liked the friendly way you posted this suggestion. I hope it catches on.
... until I moved out.
"The future is in specialized devices like Xbox, phones etc."
As a peripheral to the desktop maybe, but not as a replacement. General purpose computers aren't going anywhere.
"Seriously, what has Seti@Home found as of yet?"
A bunch of skepticism.
"She asked me, "How can you study computer science when there are children out there being abused, and women out there being raped?"
Ugh I hate logic like this. Diveristy is what keeps this planet alive. If everybody became anti-rape superheroes, who'd teach her psychology?
" I even think that SETI is a pretty worthwhile project but compared to curing some of the ailments folding works on...well yeah."
I help SETI because it's drastically underfunded compared to the types of things folding would cure.
"I have read it."
No, you have not.
"You keep insisting that you are not a shill and yet you post shilling comments."
A shill wouldn't post negative comments about MS. I've done so numerous times. That is how I know you haven't read it.
"One day I was watching an interview with the grand poobah of the KKK. He kept insisting that he was not racist."
Heh. So is that supposed to bug me? You haven't even been able to lock me down as a shill.
"Like a poor marksman, you keep... missing.. the... taaarget." Heh.
"Here in Sweden we have had 24mbps dsl network for quite some time now... both vdsl and adsl2+"
I have 3 megabits now, and at my previous job we had a 7-megabit line. I've only run into a couple of sites that could saturate either one. (Microsoft has kick ass hosting, btw.) Have you found a lot of benefit for having that much speed? (I imagine that in Sweden, you look at different sites than I do?) Just curious if you'd notice the difference between the two. I saw a huge difference going from 768k to 3 megabits, but not 3 megabits to 7 megabits here in the USA.
Unless you're interested in paying the early adopter price, I don't think you'll be upgraded for free. I imagine it'll be a year or two before it is worth considering for you.
I guess what I'm saying is "assume you won't be getting it for 2 years, and make a decision based on knowing that." That's what I'd do.
"The MPAA is going to love this, NOT."
The attitude in general they have pisses me off. They don't see a new broadcast medium that offers exciting new capabilities, they see their customers magically becoming thieves. Then, they cause that prophecy to become fulfilled by airing anti-piracy commercials that inform people they can download movies for free of the internet.
Hey McFly?!
"I'm just pointing out that when ISPs offer more speed, they also increase the price, something the article poster didnt mention"
Not always true. Comcast started at 1.5 megabits for me and then magically jumped to 3 megabits without telling me. The initial service will probably cost more, but eventually your connection is likely to just magically get faster. Either that or a competitor will ofer you more for the same amount of money.
You win if you want to pay more, you win if you don't want to pay more.
No, it doesn't. You have not read it. That is why I find this discussion amusing as opposed to annoying. ;)
"Great now I can BSOD my brain!"
It beats thinking in badly spelled poorly documented commands.
"The word never changes. The meaning never changes."
As long as confusion still exists, then my point is valid. If you'd like to have a more detailed discussion, log in. Prove to me that you really feel the way you do as opposed to just attacking.
"With the exception of "Check licensing model...", which is mostly FUD, that all seems rather sensible. Or am I missing something?"
.EXEs through OLXP. (kinda sucks when engineers are passing little apps back and forth) A problem? Yes, if you don't know about it. We thought it wasn't attaching or that the mail server was broken. Took us forver to figure out that OLXP was blocking, and they provided NO INTERFACE to turn that off! Registry hack. Ugh.
At this point, it has more to do with the individual users (or corps) than it does with 'who is right or wrong?' I care about the 'no scripting' phase as I wouldn't use it if it were there and don't know anybody else who would, another guy will come along and say "but if you've got to do this little task, you're sunk with MS!" Which is perfectly legitimate for him.
I personally have had good experiences, in general, with MS related products. I will tell you all about a couple of nasty MS gotchas that I think Linux would be immune to:
1.) MS spontaneously decided to switch to a registration system where the apps call home. Though that company I was with had nothing to worry about, it raised the paranoia flag. We switched computers around fairly regularly. At what point would we be accused of over-using the product?
2.) The occasional upgrade brought us trouble. We were quite happy with Outlook 2000. Quite productive with it. However, Outlook XP (2002?) materialized on a couple of new laptops. In an effort to be more secure, they killed the ability to send
The point? MS upgrades filled us with fear. If you're choosing between OSS and MS about switching to MS, be prepared to accept that.
I just love how the definition of 'free' mutates depending on who's talking about what. For example, free is good when talking about Linux no matter what the TCO is because it comes with source code. But free is bad when talking about Microsoft because of words like "DRM" and "monopoly" etc.
I know this post isn't going to earn me any popularity here. That's fine. All I ask is that you take away this one little statement from me: if the word free dynamically changes and confuses people, stop using it. Don't use free when one person's thinking licensing cost and another's thinking about source code. Everybody values each of those factors seperately.
"The jury is still out for the DS."
Built in 802.11, a stylus that can do things like on-line chat without covering the screen. *I* am excited. If Nintendo did this right (guess I'll find out when the thing finally arrives...) then I can play against people on-line from my couch instead of at my desk.
"...as much as I love the internet, and new technologies...interent on cell phones is too small to do anything with!"
That's a good thing when you're sending an internet connection to your laptop via your phone.
Dunno, I'm a shill virgin so far. ;)
Gotta work on your judgement there, buddy.
"How is displaying the URL on the page more
secure than displaying it on the status bar?"
The status bar doesn't wrap.
"They have Ogg Vorbis as well..."
Yeah but if I download the MP3 version, I'm flipping off the RIAA!
.. just rip this disc to RLE compression and you'll get the same ratio!
"I'm pretty sure this does it, depending on what video card you have. Look for "Home Video Server"."
I used Snapstream a couple of years ago. I was pretty darned happy with it. Assuming it's still fundamentally the same today, I think you'd like it.
"Besides- note the [reference.com] after the link- a sure sign that there's a mismatch between the description and the link. Though this might be a preference in showing links, I'm not sure."
Yes, it is a preference, and yes it does help. Very nice of Slashdot to do. Unfortunately, they keep turnign up IE exploits that hide the true domain. That is what changed my mind in the first place about HTML links.
"Thus you failed to follow directions, didn't you?" (From another post)
Following directions is optional if you're trying to mislead somebody.