"So you're not annoyed, just desperate for attention, even if is the kind that just slaps you around. Miss your dad much?"
Nah, not desperate for attention. Just find it amusing. What abouut you, though? At least I have email notification. You, though, have to keep reloading until I respond. Who's desperate for attention here?
"My part has always been about calling you on your self-righteous little tantrum. That's all."
Tantrum? Heh. Whatever. Call it a tantrum if you like, I just pointed out that an asshole was being an asshole. If I were truely having a tantrum about it, I wouldn't have told the guy I learned something from him.
Despite how obvious this is, you're still trying to bug me with it. Really, this is reflecting poorly on you. What's the matter? Don't like that I got a +5 for saying that Linux has only recently reached a useful level of maturity? Is that why you continually bring up the 'self righteous little tantrum'? Trying to find weakness in me and exploit it so I can feel bad for making a strong point?
I hope you develop an interest in women one day. They're more fun than trying to get to people who don't hate Microsoft. Sorry I'm not part of the club!:)
"As long as there is software there will be bugs, no matter where it is run."
This is very true. All it takes is an inexpicably popular piece of software that has a vulnerability in it. Franky, I don't think it'd be hard for somebody to write an interesting app just to do that. Kazaa ring a bell?
... that Microsoft's vulnerability-prone. However, I'm not so quick to accept this guy's suggestion. Viruses are only successful to the author of them if they cause a lot of mischief. Why target a handful of Linux or Mac boxes when you've got a common base many many times larger?
This guy is right that Windows security sucks, but it's ignorant to dispute that the sheer number of Windows machines out there makes it an attractive target. Look towards Blaster if you don't believe me.
"1. DVD rips are huge, and broadband isn't quite as popular with the non-Slashdot crowd. It takes about 20 minutes to download the average MP3 file over a 56K modem. I don't even want to think about a DVD rip."
Yes, you're right, they are huge. However, let's drop the 56k bit here. Can we really assume that P2P users are significantly 56kers? Even so, it's not as bad as it used to be. It used to be you had to have that connection cleanly established for as long as it takes to get the file. With P2P, now you can just get it in the queue, and a few days later you have it. Though it is a significant issue, it's not as painful as it used to be.
"2. You can easily (and cheaply) burn MP3s out to a CD and listen to it on your home and car stereo. DVDs are still relatively expensive to do so. Recorders are comming down, but they still aren't at the free-after-rebate price point from the large PC chains. And the media isn't literally dime a dozen yet. MP3s really took off when it became cheap to use them away from the PC. DVDs are not yet to that point."
I'm not sure that matters a whole lot. Hard disk space is cheap, and your PC is quite good at playing DVDs and DVD rips. In some ways, it's better, because of its higher definition monitor. I never really got the impression that the holy grail of DVD rips was to play on the TV. It would be right of me to point out, though, that I reall don't know for sure.
"3. DVD ripping software isn't as simple as MP3 software. Last time I tried to copy a trailer off of a DVD to take with me to work, there were 3 separate programs that had to be installed and each one had 5 or 6 settings I had to play with to make it work right."
Yes, you are right. Counterpoint: Once you've downloaded the movie, it's availble to be shared again. Despite that, DVD rips aren't all that common on Kazaa. (Surprisingly low actually, at least from what I've been able to tell in my non-scientific ways.) I don't think people are really seeking them on-line.
You're right, though, the question as to why they aren't being that heavily sought is not a simple one to answer. The original phrasing of my post wasn't written very well, and I apologize for that. Let me share with you a little anecdote:
When I was 6 or 7, my grade school decided to show us a movie. They wheeled in the TV and started it up. The first thing that came up with was the warning. I remember thinking, at the age of 6 or 7, that the school was doing something ilegally. They were showing a movie to a group of people.
The warning was so clear that my inattentive 6 or 7 year old mind made me go "oh dear, i hope nobody tells." See where I'm going here? Movies have made it clear that you're not to trade them. Now whether or not people abide by that is a seperate discussion, but what remains is that the users cannot claim ignorance. Personally, I think there are people out there who aren't looking to the web to download movies because it's been made clear to them they're not supposed to under penalty of law. I don't know if there's a lof those people.
In any case, I hope that clarifies my views a bit. Again, sorry for the crappy phrasing of my original post.
"Anything breaking or circumventing a copy-protection scheme is a violation of the DMCA, and any person is therefore subject to the rest of the crappiness that is the DMCA."
I understand what you're saying, and you do have a good point. Something to consider, though, is that this 'protection' is dependent on a feature (read: luxury) of Windows being operational. Can somebody who has already disabled the feature be sued under the DMCA?
" It would be nice to see some competition, breaking up Nintendo's handheld monopoly, and maybe make Nintendo more serious about its handheld systems."
Nintendo's not serious about its handheld systems? I get the feeling (and please correct me if I am wrong) that you are itching for Nintendo to make a new system every couple of years. Frankly, I don't see what good that would do. Sega showed us what happens when you release too many systems. Meanwhile, the Game Boy has a HUGE library of games.
Nintendo is very smart about portable game machines. They make designs that last. The other competitors who have gone in trying to make competing devices have fallen flat on their face. They tried faster processors, better screens, touch screens, and even playing all the games of major systems, yet they still haven't been able to crack Nintendo's market. This isn't because Nintendo is keeping people out of the market. Far from it. It's because they're trying so hard to come up with a better product that they are creating unusable shortfalls. The graphics suck or the battery life is horrid or the machine's just too big. Or, worst of all, it doesnt' get serious 3rd party support.
There is competition. They keep trying and trying, but Nintendo's the one who knows what they're doing. They're not serious about their handheld systems? What are you smoking?
And you're right, Lightwave's already got a Linux renderer today. We imagine in 2 years we'll have a full port. That'll be when I've fully adopted Linux.
Thanks for the info on Mandrake, I'll try it when it comes around!
"Wow, you blew it, that not even right. Learn your quotes.... Assfuck."
Quotes are used to make people laugh, not to win at Trivial Pursuit. His quote was quite humorous. Who cares if Billy G didn't really say it? Who cares if it's not quoted verbatim?
Honestly dude, Bill Gates trivia does not magnify the size of your penis.
"This is about as effective as putting a sticker on the front that says 'Pretty please do not attempt to extract data from this CD on your computer'."
Gotta wonder, why hasn't the RIAA tried putting little "Do's and Dont's" pamphlet in CDs? I mean, seriously, the RIAA has done *nothing* to educate people about what's legal and what isn't. This is why people are appearing in court with a surprised expression on their faces. If the RIAA, ages ago, had insisted that record labels put little pamphlets in their CD's saying "please don't copy and give to a friend", then their stance would be a little easier to handle.
The RIAA says their problems are because everybody's a thief, I say the RIAA's problems are a direct result of their own ignorance. At least the movie industry is smart enough to put a list of don't on every movie. Interestingly enough, there aren't as many DVD rips out there.
I'm sorry if I'm redundant here, but there are 300 posts and I'm sleepy.;)
I have a Brother HL-1440 laser printer. Right now, they're in the $170 range. I bought one two years ago. I've used it quite a bit and I'm still on the original toner cartridge. I'm *very* happy with. I bought my dad one, he loves it. I've seen a number of people here on Slashdot say the same thing.
If you're worried about ink prices, just get a laser printer. If you're printing photos, well I can't help you there, but for everything else it's great.
This is a case where you should speak with your wallets, folks. If Laser printers go this way down the road, then I'd seriously look into going paperless. PocketPC's, Tablet PCs, and Palm Pilots are extremely useful in alleviating the need for printing. Heck, there's always Kinko's.
"RAM and Video RAM. Cpu cyles arent too important anymore >1GHz (in my opinion at least) for normal computing. Higher end processors are more suitable for servers, research platforms and clusters. Just my two cents though. "
Just to add to Kevin's point here, I'm a 3D artist and I need every ounce of speed I can get. I won't be happy until everything I do in 3D is real-time.
Though, if you factor practicality into play here,for the price of a top-of-the-line fastest machine, I can usually buy 2 mid-range machines that get more done. I think the market's starting to realize that. I remember the days when you wanted to buy the top of the line machine so you could go 4 years without an upgrade. Who does that anymore?
", but they don't/can't/won't replace the learning experience you get from researching a paper or listening to an interesting lecture. "
I don't think the suggestion was to replace education with them. I think the point of this article is to say "your kids are not necessarily wasting time playing that thing."
I know that's true in my case. I wanted to know how games worked, so often I played them while making observations about how I'd accomplish that in programming. Also, I've paid careful attention to how a game lets you know what's happening. I'm a 3D artist now. My interest in programming has made me effective in using the scriping and expression features of my 3d app, and my attention to UI has gotten me a promotion at work. They have me test the software and suggest changes/additions to the UI to make it easier to use.
I don't know if other kids have gotten this from gaming or not (though I'm sure a lot of programmers today have, it's all about interest level) but I can say that if my parents were Dr. Lauara'esque in keeping me away from games, I'd probably still be in retail.
So far you've tried to impersonate more than one person so you can claim that I'm against popular opinion, and you've tried to annoy me. Niether is working very well. Keep trying, though, as I do find it amusing. I'm curious what your unfinished mission is here.
"In the end, however, the three-messages-back assertion that we think Windows is crap *only* because we havn't tried 2k, has been addressed and disproved."
Disproved? I dun think so. A couple of people said they have problems with it. Yet, surprisingly, Slashdot isn't home to a lot of people who don't hate Microsoft. Skewed results? Me thinks so.
"God's speed and good luck to you on your rendering. May your ongoing fortune continue, and would that only the rest of us were so lucky to not win-hang often and severely... but wait... we do... crap..."
Actually I'm willing to bet I'll be running Linux for rendering within 2 years.
"Guess I'll just have to stick with what works where I can, and Win2k where otherwise. "
That's exactly what you should do. Linux is good enough for you, it's not good enough for me. It will be before too long, though. In any case, that's not what this topic is about. For your couple of "oh it crashes for me", I run an art forum where the vast majority of users there run Win2k or XP. They're not complaining of instability or getting all whoop-de-do over Hollywood announcements about Linux.
"See, those are the words of a self-confident, yet totally WRONG poster. "
My point was valid. And, as mentioned before, I could have kept it going. Instead, I took the opportunity to be informed. You should have picked up that hint that I wasn't arguing just for the sake of being right.
" Ya got flamed, ya got what you deserved and now you just want to cry to mommy about it. Boo-hoo. "
"Windows is crap. If all you do is browse the web, and you don't mind rebooting regularly (or you naturally turn off or sleep you box to save electricity anyway so it gets its regular reboot because of your natural behavior) you may not notice it much. "
Nope, I don't notice it much because it doesn't happen here. If I had to deal with that, I couldn't get my renderings done.
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"So you're not annoyed, just desperate for attention, even if is the kind that just slaps you around. Miss your dad much?"
:)
Nah, not desperate for attention. Just find it amusing. What abouut you, though? At least I have email notification. You, though, have to keep reloading until I respond. Who's desperate for attention here?
"My part has always been about calling you on your self-righteous little tantrum. That's all."
Tantrum? Heh. Whatever. Call it a tantrum if you like, I just pointed out that an asshole was being an asshole. If I were truely having a tantrum about it, I wouldn't have told the guy I learned something from him.
Despite how obvious this is, you're still trying to bug me with it. Really, this is reflecting poorly on you. What's the matter? Don't like that I got a +5 for saying that Linux has only recently reached a useful level of maturity? Is that why you continually bring up the 'self righteous little tantrum'? Trying to find weakness in me and exploit it so I can feel bad for making a strong point?
I hope you develop an interest in women one day. They're more fun than trying to get to people who don't hate Microsoft. Sorry I'm not part of the club!
"As long as there is software there will be bugs, no matter where it is run."
This is very true. All it takes is an inexpicably popular piece of software that has a vulnerability in it. Franky, I don't think it'd be hard for somebody to write an interesting app just to do that. Kazaa ring a bell?
... that Microsoft's vulnerability-prone. However, I'm not so quick to accept this guy's suggestion. Viruses are only successful to the author of them if they cause a lot of mischief. Why target a handful of Linux or Mac boxes when you've got a common base many many times larger?
This guy is right that Windows security sucks, but it's ignorant to dispute that the sheer number of Windows machines out there makes it an attractive target. Look towards Blaster if you don't believe me.
"1. DVD rips are huge, and broadband isn't quite as popular with the non-Slashdot crowd. It takes about 20 minutes to download the average MP3 file over a 56K modem. I don't even want to think about a DVD rip."
Yes, you're right, they are huge. However, let's drop the 56k bit here. Can we really assume that P2P users are significantly 56kers? Even so, it's not as bad as it used to be. It used to be you had to have that connection cleanly established for as long as it takes to get the file. With P2P, now you can just get it in the queue, and a few days later you have it. Though it is a significant issue, it's not as painful as it used to be.
"2. You can easily (and cheaply) burn MP3s out to a CD and listen to it on your home and car stereo. DVDs are still relatively expensive to do so. Recorders are comming down, but they still aren't at the free-after-rebate price point from the large PC chains. And the media isn't literally dime a dozen yet. MP3s really took off when it became cheap to use them away from the PC. DVDs are not yet to that point."
I'm not sure that matters a whole lot. Hard disk space is cheap, and your PC is quite good at playing DVDs and DVD rips. In some ways, it's better, because of its higher definition monitor. I never really got the impression that the holy grail of DVD rips was to play on the TV. It would be right of me to point out, though, that I reall don't know for sure.
"3. DVD ripping software isn't as simple as MP3 software. Last time I tried to copy a trailer off of a DVD to take with me to work, there were 3 separate programs that had to be installed and each one had 5 or 6 settings I had to play with to make it work right."
Yes, you are right. Counterpoint: Once you've downloaded the movie, it's availble to be shared again. Despite that, DVD rips aren't all that common on Kazaa. (Surprisingly low actually, at least from what I've been able to tell in my non-scientific ways.) I don't think people are really seeking them on-line.
You're right, though, the question as to why they aren't being that heavily sought is not a simple one to answer. The original phrasing of my post wasn't written very well, and I apologize for that. Let me share with you a little anecdote:
When I was 6 or 7, my grade school decided to show us a movie. They wheeled in the TV and started it up. The first thing that came up with was the warning. I remember thinking, at the age of 6 or 7, that the school was doing something ilegally. They were showing a movie to a group of people.
The warning was so clear that my inattentive 6 or 7 year old mind made me go "oh dear, i hope nobody tells." See where I'm going here? Movies have made it clear that you're not to trade them. Now whether or not people abide by that is a seperate discussion, but what remains is that the users cannot claim ignorance. Personally, I think there are people out there who aren't looking to the web to download movies because it's been made clear to them they're not supposed to under penalty of law. I don't know if there's a lof those people.
In any case, I hope that clarifies my views a bit. Again, sorry for the crappy phrasing of my original post.
"Anything breaking or circumventing a copy-protection scheme is a violation of the DMCA, and any person is therefore subject to the rest of the crappiness that is the DMCA."
I understand what you're saying, and you do have a good point. Something to consider, though, is that this 'protection' is dependent on a feature (read: luxury) of Windows being operational. Can somebody who has already disabled the feature be sued under the DMCA?
" It would be nice to see some competition, breaking up Nintendo's handheld monopoly, and maybe make Nintendo more serious about its handheld systems."
Nintendo's not serious about its handheld systems? I get the feeling (and please correct me if I am wrong) that you are itching for Nintendo to make a new system every couple of years. Frankly, I don't see what good that would do. Sega showed us what happens when you release too many systems. Meanwhile, the Game Boy has a HUGE library of games.
Nintendo is very smart about portable game machines. They make designs that last. The other competitors who have gone in trying to make competing devices have fallen flat on their face. They tried faster processors, better screens, touch screens, and even playing all the games of major systems, yet they still haven't been able to crack Nintendo's market. This isn't because Nintendo is keeping people out of the market. Far from it. It's because they're trying so hard to come up with a better product that they are creating unusable shortfalls. The graphics suck or the battery life is horrid or the machine's just too big. Or, worst of all, it doesnt' get serious 3rd party support.
There is competition. They keep trying and trying, but Nintendo's the one who knows what they're doing. They're not serious about their handheld systems? What are you smoking?
Thanks for the clarification.
And you're right, Lightwave's already got a Linux renderer today. We imagine in 2 years we'll have a full port. That'll be when I've fully adopted Linux.
Thanks for the info on Mandrake, I'll try it when it comes around!
"Keep a watch on those stock prices and insider trades. Its not like they are even trying to hide it any more."
Yeah I bought up a bunch of stock as soon as Slashdot started accusing it of being a pump in dump scheme.
"Wow, you blew it, that not even right. Learn your quotes.... Assfuck."
Quotes are used to make people laugh, not to win at Trivial Pursuit. His quote was quite humorous. Who cares if Billy G didn't really say it? Who cares if it's not quoted verbatim?
Honestly dude, Bill Gates trivia does not magnify the size of your penis.
"This is about as effective as putting a sticker on the front that says 'Pretty please do not attempt to extract data from this CD on your computer'."
Gotta wonder, why hasn't the RIAA tried putting little "Do's and Dont's" pamphlet in CDs? I mean, seriously, the RIAA has done *nothing* to educate people about what's legal and what isn't. This is why people are appearing in court with a surprised expression on their faces. If the RIAA, ages ago, had insisted that record labels put little pamphlets in their CD's saying "please don't copy and give to a friend", then their stance would be a little easier to handle.
The RIAA says their problems are because everybody's a thief, I say the RIAA's problems are a direct result of their own ignorance. At least the movie industry is smart enough to put a list of don't on every movie. Interestingly enough, there aren't as many DVD rips out there.
"And oh, yeah, this work is a blatant DMCA violation."
Are you sure? I don't see this as reverse engineering. I see it as troubleshooting a broken computer.
What's the matter? Can't take a little of your own medicine?
I read 16 players, which is 4 game cubes @ 4 controllers each.
I haven't heard anything about internet play, if I were you, I'd plan on no internet play.
When you say 2.6, can I assume you mean Kernel 2.6? (got me a little confused because you say Mandrake 2.6 also...)
Thank you!
"A TV who thinks he is funny but isn't."
Oh... you mean like Bob Saget?
"How awesome is that!"
Doctor who? Doctor WHO?! No, serious, I'm really asking, who's Eddie Izzard?
I'm sorry if I'm redundant here, but there are 300 posts and I'm sleepy. ;)
I have a Brother HL-1440 laser printer. Right now, they're in the $170 range. I bought one two years ago. I've used it quite a bit and I'm still on the original toner cartridge. I'm *very* happy with. I bought my dad one, he loves it. I've seen a number of people here on Slashdot say the same thing.
If you're worried about ink prices, just get a laser printer. If you're printing photos, well I can't help you there, but for everything else it's great.
This is a case where you should speak with your wallets, folks. If Laser printers go this way down the road, then I'd seriously look into going paperless. PocketPC's, Tablet PCs, and Palm Pilots are extremely useful in alleviating the need for printing. Heck, there's always Kinko's.
"RAM and Video RAM. Cpu cyles arent too important anymore >1GHz (in my opinion at least) for normal computing. Higher end processors are more suitable for servers, research platforms and clusters. Just my two cents though. "
Just to add to Kevin's point here, I'm a 3D artist and I need every ounce of speed I can get. I won't be happy until everything I do in 3D is real-time.
Though, if you factor practicality into play here,for the price of a top-of-the-line fastest machine, I can usually buy 2 mid-range machines that get more done. I think the market's starting to realize that. I remember the days when you wanted to buy the top of the line machine so you could go 4 years without an upgrade. Who does that anymore?
", but they don't/can't/won't replace the learning experience you get from researching a paper or listening to an interesting lecture. "
I don't think the suggestion was to replace education with them. I think the point of this article is to say "your kids are not necessarily wasting time playing that thing."
I know that's true in my case. I wanted to know how games worked, so often I played them while making observations about how I'd accomplish that in programming. Also, I've paid careful attention to how a game lets you know what's happening. I'm a 3D artist now. My interest in programming has made me effective in using the scriping and expression features of my 3d app, and my attention to UI has gotten me a promotion at work. They have me test the software and suggest changes/additions to the UI to make it easier to use.
I don't know if other kids have gotten this from gaming or not (though I'm sure a lot of programmers today have, it's all about interest level) but I can say that if my parents were Dr. Lauara'esque in keeping me away from games, I'd probably still be in retail.
So far you've tried to impersonate more than one person so you can claim that I'm against popular opinion, and you've tried to annoy me. Niether is working very well. Keep trying, though, as I do find it amusing. I'm curious what your unfinished mission is here.
"In the end, however, the three-messages-back assertion that we think Windows is crap *only* because we havn't tried 2k, has been addressed and disproved."
Disproved? I dun think so. A couple of people said they have problems with it. Yet, surprisingly, Slashdot isn't home to a lot of people who don't hate Microsoft. Skewed results? Me thinks so.
"God's speed and good luck to you on your rendering. May your ongoing fortune continue, and would that only the rest of us were so lucky to not win-hang often and severely... but wait... we do... crap..."
Actually I'm willing to bet I'll be running Linux for rendering within 2 years.
"Guess I'll just have to stick with what works where I can, and Win2k where otherwise. "
That's exactly what you should do. Linux is good enough for you, it's not good enough for me. It will be before too long, though. In any case, that's not what this topic is about. For your couple of "oh it crashes for me", I run an art forum where the vast majority of users there run Win2k or XP. They're not complaining of instability or getting all whoop-de-do over Hollywood announcements about Linux.
"Hah! You think I'm the other poster."
That's because you are.
"See, those are the words of a self-confident, yet totally WRONG poster. "
My point was valid. And, as mentioned before, I could have kept it going. Instead, I took the opportunity to be informed. You should have picked up that hint that I wasn't arguing just for the sake of being right.
" Ya got flamed, ya got what you deserved and now you just want to cry to mommy about it. Boo-hoo. "
Whatever. Takes two to tango.
"Yeah you find it impossible to have friends, what a surprise. "
:)
Burn!!
Good one!
... if it only had a budget of 10 million. Imagine if they had to focus on the telling of the story instead of the big money maker effect.
Call me pessimistic, but I'm of the belief that movies are better when there are limititations are overcome.
"Windows is crap. If all you do is browse the web, and you don't mind rebooting regularly (or you naturally turn off or sleep you box to save electricity anyway so it gets its regular reboot because of your natural behavior) you may not notice it much. "
Nope, I don't notice it much because it doesn't happen here. If I had to deal with that, I couldn't get my renderings done.