Flamebait? He's got a respectable point. Most Windows users (including myself) are afraid of what we lose when moving to Linux. Having VM-Ware (at least initially) would make the transition much more bearable. If VM-Ware came with a distro of Linux for a reasonable price (I think VM-Ware is around $300, if memory serves) then I probably would attempt a switch because I'd have something to fallback on.
Honestly, I wish moderators wouldn't just assume one-liners are automatically insulting. I've gotten burned a couple of times like that over the last few days.
"So, on the (rare, for the most part) instances when a driver doesn't already exist and isn't already setup, some of us get kind of upset;)."
So you'd agree, then, that a simpler way of getting the driver installed would be preferable. Right?
I mean, the Linux Community can't install drivers into the kernel before the hardware's available.
BTW, Windows is pretty close in that regard. Every release of Windows has drivers for LOTS and I do mean LOTS of hardware. The problem is that Windows upgrades happen every couple of years, and it's a new purchase to attain them. Pity Service Packs don't cover that, heh.
"Erm, pretty much all driver code should be in the kernel anyways..."
Perhaps, but there needs to be an easy way to install them too. What's the guarantee that a given distro's not going to break something?
Question: Is there a driver installation standard that includes how to do it within KDE/Gnome? If there's not, then there's a nasty weakness there that'll pretty much guarantee most companies won't support it. If it is there, how often does it change? Does it change?
*Note: In case it's not obvious, I'm not knowledgable about Linux. From what little I've used it, the thought of installing a driver makes me go ewwwww. I'm spoiled by my 'Setup.exe, [Ok], [Ok], [Ok] *bam* you're up and running' expectation I've developed from using Windows 2000.
In the 3 years I've used several different Windows 2000 machines, I've never had that happen. If you were using Windows 98 or ME, all I can say is 'ha ha!'.
"A precedent was established quite a few years ago when they failed to convict a well known reporter. Whenever witnesses went down the lineup, they were never able to positively I.D. Mr. Kent because he kept taking his glasses off. "
LOL! Dude I think somebody thought you were serious. Who moddeded that as interesting? Heh. Must not be a fan of Mystery Men.
That moderation makes me wonder if Superman is well known world wide, or only in America? Anybody abroad have some inisght into that?
Anonvmouos Coward has a wonderful way of expressing what we are all thinking at any given time. I have to admit I was startled by this revelation. Though I was thinking exactly what he said, I wasn't reading Slashdot at the time.
"Sony makes sure that you play by their rules. I'll give you an example: What's the standard format for a memory card on a Digital Camera? Compact Flash. What type of memory cards do Sony Digital Cameras use? Memory stick."
Kind of reminds me of what happened too Sony's CD-Drive peripheral for the Super NES. If memory serves, they wanted to make it a Sony unit that just happened to play Nintendo cartridges. The deal fell through partly because Nintendo wasn't about to hand their brand name over to Sony. The battle of the egos resulted in no CD for the SNES and the Playstation.
I have no doubt about what you're saying. Sony's very agressive about keeping the competition out.
"Before warcraft 3, I purchased every piece of software they ever made. I did not buy WC3, and will not buy a blizzard title again until they 1) apologize for thier abjectly evil behavior 2) demonstrate, not say, that they have changed that behavior 3) promise to stay changed, and demonstrate that behavior. I would recommend that anyone reading this, if they like thier freedom, put thier morals where there mouth is."
So your questionable principles outweighed the desire to encourage Blizzard to make good games?
Sorry, I'm not taking your advice. Boycotting Blizzard would put them in a position where they'd have to make 'guaranteed money makers' instead of spending the time to make unique games. They'd go the way of Westwood.
Besides that, you are horribly, HORRIBLY misinformed.
"I remember reading in ZDNet a long time ago (forgot who wrote the article) about two great workarounds for the click-wrap agreements.
1. Videotape yourself getting hammered before clicking - thus not in the state of mind to agree to anything 2. Videotape a minor clicking on the "ok" - also not bindidng"
3.) Videotape yourself using a touch screen to hit the OK button. Afterall, it does say 'click', which technically means 'mouse'.
"Parents should be able to view the library as a trusted place to leave their kids."
Sorry, I don't agree with this statement. Let me explain why: A library needs to be a trusted place to get information. It is NOT a babysitter. Normally I wouldn't find this to be an issue except that the two goals are mutually exlusive. It's either a place to find information OR it's a place to leave your kids. You can't have both.
Personally, I side against censorship of an internet connection, mainly because any form of filtering is going to be flawed. (I believe the breast cancer example's been used a lot recently.)
Here's a simple way to handle it: Make it a policy not to allow pornagraphic searches. If you see any, report it and they boot you off. Simple as that. No filtering required. No information blocked. No parents getting upset because something got through the filter.
Now, let's be completely serious for a moment: Who's going to jack off in a library?
... don't we discuss who was the best Starship Captain?
Linux could use some UI work. (though it's pretty decent today.) It could use some hardware support (everything supports Windows) yadda yadda yadda, go fix it so we can move on!
Slashdot Mirror
"I have 2, 200 cd cases full of windows software (true iv probably never used 1/4 of it)."/i.
Hmm. Too bad it's illegal for you to rip them to Mp3, then you'd only need 22 CDs.
"Linux is great...as long as you have VMware "
Flamebait? He's got a respectable point. Most Windows users (including myself) are afraid of what we lose when moving to Linux. Having VM-Ware (at least initially) would make the transition much more bearable. If VM-Ware came with a distro of Linux for a reasonable price (I think VM-Ware is around $300, if memory serves) then I probably would attempt a switch because I'd have something to fallback on.
Honestly, I wish moderators wouldn't just assume one-liners are automatically insulting. I've gotten burned a couple of times like that over the last few days.
"So, on the (rare, for the most part) instances when a driver doesn't already exist and isn't already setup, some of us get kind of upset ;)."
So you'd agree, then, that a simpler way of getting the driver installed would be preferable. Right?
I mean, the Linux Community can't install drivers into the kernel before the hardware's available.
BTW, Windows is pretty close in that regard. Every release of Windows has drivers for LOTS and I do mean LOTS of hardware. The problem is that Windows upgrades happen every couple of years, and it's a new purchase to attain them. Pity Service Packs don't cover that, heh.
"Erm, pretty much all driver code should be in the kernel anyways..."
Perhaps, but there needs to be an easy way to install them too. What's the guarantee that a given distro's not going to break something?
Question: Is there a driver installation standard that includes how to do it within KDE/Gnome? If there's not, then there's a nasty weakness there that'll pretty much guarantee most companies won't support it. If it is there, how often does it change? Does it change?
*Note: In case it's not obvious, I'm not knowledgable about Linux. From what little I've used it, the thought of installing a driver makes me go ewwwww. I'm spoiled by my 'Setup.exe, [Ok], [Ok], [Ok] *bam* you're up and running' expectation I've developed from using Windows 2000.
"The registry is an awful thing for the simple reason it sticks all your eggs in one basket."
I completely agree with you. That's why my joke was funny. Too bad the moderators didn't sense my sarcasm.
In the 3 years I've used several different Windows 2000 machines, I've never had that happen. If you were using Windows 98 or ME, all I can say is 'ha ha!'.
*meant light heartedly*
"Before your stupid ass tries to go and apply this same bit to the guy and spelling, you can't, because it's different. "
:)
Does anybody else think that was an ambitious way to tell somebody they're incompetent over a simple spelling error? Hee hee.
... who still thinks the Registry is a bad thing?
(comment to be taken lightly. Should irritation persist, chill.)
"A precedent was established quite a few years ago when they failed to convict a well known reporter. Whenever witnesses went down the lineup, they were never able to positively I.D. Mr. Kent because he kept taking his glasses off. "
LOL! Dude I think somebody thought you were serious. Who moddeded that as interesting? Heh. Must not be a fan of Mystery Men.
That moderation makes me wonder if Superman is well known world wide, or only in America? Anybody abroad have some inisght into that?
"Some people will still show up, say useless comments, and then show some porn -- just to get attention."
Others will think they're the first to write "Anonymous Coward" on their name tag.
Google cools searching.
Groovy. Far out. Fab.
(Calvin and Hobbes funnies post.)
"The Loan Gunmen are Dead. "
BTW, that's not a typo, it's a pun so clever most of you won't get it!
*Sheepish grin*
The Loan Gunmen are Dead.
'Nice rack!'
Anonvmouos Coward has a wonderful way of expressing what we are all thinking at any given time. I have to admit I was startled by this revelation. Though I was thinking exactly what he said, I wasn't reading Slashdot at the time.
"Sony makes sure that you play by their rules. I'll give you an example: What's the standard format for a memory card on a Digital Camera? Compact Flash. What type of memory cards do Sony Digital Cameras use? Memory stick."
Kind of reminds me of what happened too Sony's CD-Drive peripheral for the Super NES. If memory serves, they wanted to make it a Sony unit that just happened to play Nintendo cartridges. The deal fell through partly because Nintendo wasn't about to hand their brand name over to Sony. The battle of the egos resulted in no CD for the SNES and the Playstation.
I have no doubt about what you're saying. Sony's very agressive about keeping the competition out.
"Before warcraft 3, I purchased every piece of software they ever made. I did not buy WC3, and will not buy a blizzard title again until they 1) apologize for thier abjectly evil behavior 2) demonstrate, not say, that they have changed that behavior 3) promise to stay changed, and demonstrate that behavior. I would recommend that anyone reading this, if they like thier freedom, put thier morals where there mouth is."
So your questionable principles outweighed the desire to encourage Blizzard to make good games?
Sorry, I'm not taking your advice. Boycotting Blizzard would put them in a position where they'd have to make 'guaranteed money makers' instead of spending the time to make unique games. They'd go the way of Westwood.
Besides that, you are horribly, HORRIBLY misinformed.
"I remember reading in ZDNet a long time ago (forgot who wrote the article) about two great workarounds for the click-wrap agreements.
1. Videotape yourself getting hammered before clicking - thus not in the state of mind to agree to anything
2. Videotape a minor clicking on the "ok" - also not bindidng"
3.) Videotape yourself using a touch screen to hit the OK button. Afterall, it does say 'click', which technically means 'mouse'.
"If they do cave in, people might think twice before signing up for AOL..."
You mean once they get past the price?
"Parents should be able to view the library as a trusted place to leave their kids."
Sorry, I don't agree with this statement. Let me explain why: A library needs to be a trusted place to get information. It is NOT a babysitter. Normally I wouldn't find this to be an issue except that the two goals are mutually exlusive. It's either a place to find information OR it's a place to leave your kids. You can't have both.
Personally, I side against censorship of an internet connection, mainly because any form of filtering is going to be flawed. (I believe the breast cancer example's been used a lot recently.)
Here's a simple way to handle it: Make it a policy not to allow pornagraphic searches. If you see any, report it and they boot you off. Simple as that. No filtering required. No information blocked. No parents getting upset because something got through the filter.
Now, let's be completely serious for a moment: Who's going to jack off in a library?
"'And as every child of '80s knows, the Inspector Gadget theme song is either sung with "doo do doo do" or "bom bom bom", NOT "na na na" "
You forgot dead-ant.
"Dead-ant... dead-Ant.... dead-ant dead-ANT dead-ant Dead-Ant DEAD-ANT dead-and Dead-AAAAAAANT, dead-ant dead-ant dead-ant."
(Pink Panther)
"Please point us to the other spellings you've seen, please."
;)
Ya know, it's a slimey tactic to make a guy point out that he's never really seen what he implies he had.
"nana nana NA na NAAaa Na Spector Garriot. NananaNA NA NAAAAAAA!"
That has got to be the worst spelling of the Inspector Gadget theme song I've ever seen.
"I am very dissapointed that these types of musicals are not comming out of the Hollywood machine lately."
Would I be modded down over clever use of the term 'gaydar'?
... don't we discuss who was the best Starship Captain?
Linux could use some UI work. (though it's pretty decent today.) It could use some hardware support (everything supports Windows) yadda yadda yadda, go fix it so we can move on!
... who would buy a video phone would be single male geeks just like yourself, wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy a mirror?