"So, Opera won't fix it? They have a proof of concept, and Opera believe their implementation is correct? Maybe, but they still need to provide an update, and something tells me they will.. eventually."
In case anybody's curious, Opera's broken, too.
I'm really kinda saddened by this. There was an exploit a year or two ago that worked in a similar way. It involved using an @ symbol in the header to disguise the true domain. At the time, Mozilla and IE were absolutely broken in that respect, but Opera was nice enough to put up a friendly message saying "Are ya sure you want to enter this particular domain?" (Kinda necessary, those @ symbols are useful.) Guess I just kinda expected more from Opera in this respect.
"Who on earth needs a terabyte of storage? And more importantly, Why would we want it on a non-hard disk. "
Heh. This question is asked every SINGLE time a new capacity is announced.
Here are a few answers:
- Weta. They had so much data flying around while they were working on LotR that they ended up buying iPods and overnighting them to the necessary locations. A 1TB disc not only would have made their lives easier, but they also could have used a few of these to perform regular backups.
- The entertainment industry wanting to do more with video discs. HDTV comes to mind. TV series collections come to mind.
- RedHat will need to move to one of these discs before too much longer.
- I have about 300 gigs on my desktop right now. In a year or two, I probably could hit a terrabyte. I'd love to back up EVERYTHING on one disc. Preferably a CD-lookin disc that I can store somewhere and not a bulky firewire drive.
- Every time new storage comes along... EVERY TIME... somebody comes up with an interesting way of filling it up. This exact same question came up when CD-ROMs were introduced. Back then, the average hard drive was like 100 megs.
"You want interoperability? Just dump Microsoft and use everything else."
Question: There's something I do from time to time using Office and I'd like to know if there's a free OSS alternative that does the same (or better?):
I make spreadsheets in Excel. Sometimes I select a bunch of cells, open a new email in Outlook, and hit paste. When that happens, a duplicate of my spreadsheet is dropped right into the email, and it's still fully functionable editable. Not only has this helped me out a few times, but it's also a great example of interoperability. Is that possible with OSS?
"Guess they don't attempt to interoperate between three different version of Office within their organization."
My previous company had a mixture of Office 97, Office 2K, and Office XP running all at once. There weren't any interoperability problems. (On a side note: There wasn't much difference to upgrade past 2k, either.)
In that one case. Not every game comes out on PS2 first, nor is it necessary that the PS2 version is released first.
"2) never have to worry about the game's compatiblity with graphics card/drivers"
I agree with this. (I actually prefer most games on console. Vice City in particular is not one of them.) Linux is not exempt from this problem.
"3) never have to worry about the game's compatibility with windows updates"
Never had this problem. I haven't played a game in the last 3 years that didn't work on 2k and XP. "a) you have to pay for the game for whetever system. That is unless you are using a warez'd copy but you could do that with a chipped ps2 as well"
The context of this conversation was using a PC to play games. You suggested a PS2 instead. Not every PC gamer has a PS2, myself included. You're right if you have both a PS2 and a PC, you're not otherwise. On a side note: Most PC games (not Vice City, though) have a freely downloadable demo version.
"b/c) PS2 version and the PS2 controller is just fine for controlling the game."
It is inferior compared to KB and mouse.
"And with greatest hits titles priced new from $19.99 you can get a used game for like $15 or less plus you can also rent console games."
Tell that to somebody who plays UT2004 on the internet every night how great consoles are instead of trying to band-aid Linux into playing Windows games.
"This might come as a surprise to the/. community, but many users don't understand the concept of an "operating system". Many users don't know the difference between Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Office."
No, but they do know the difference between a Mac and PC. Even if Linux were an option, it's difficult to imagine a significant portion of the masses suddenly floating torards it. Linux needs better software and peripheral support. It wouldn't hurt to get software for Linux on store shelves, also. I know, I know, everything's gotta be FREE FREE FREE but it really does create the impression to the uninformed that Linux is a toy that isn't being taken very seriously.
"Anyone care to explain why Europe tends to be the second-class citizen for practically all tech releases?"
It'd help if Europe used NTSC like USA and Japan does. Not saying it'd solve it, but it'd definitely help. (Note: I'm talking about the video game market in general. For obvious reasons, the PSP is exempt.)
"CDROMs were sold on the basis of things like encyclopedias and information archives. CDROM games weren't that common until well after CDROM drives became standard."
CD-ROMs sold because a bunch of games came out that used them. Companies like Sierra and LucasArts were taking their popular adventure game and adding voice to them. Games like Rebel Assault effectively used FMV to make for a distinctive game. Etc. CD-ROM drives were a must have for gamers long before they became standard hardware.
"Do you really think that if EB cleared their shelves of Windows games and replaced them all with Linux games that Linux would become the dominant OS ?"
Yes. Games are pretty much the only thing most people can't do effectively on Linux. Make Linux the must-have-gaming-OS, and suddenly it takes off like wildfire.
"Gamers are too small a percentage of computer users to dictate platforms to everyone else."
You do realize that we all have CD ROMs and sound cards because of games, right?
Windows gamers are numbered in the 10s of millions. If you don't believe me, then I'd like you to explain why EB is stuffed with Windows games on the shelves with little to no support for any other OS.
"Many disputed this assertion, but Nintendo has become increasingly reliant upon its existing franchises- especially Mario and Zelda (and to a lesser extent, Smash Bros. which includes both)"
It's disputed because Nintendo has 6 billion in the bank to play with, whereas Sega had to drop the Dreamcast because they didn't have the money they needed to build DC units to sell. A million units cost like 200 million to build, and they didn't have the money.
"Gamecube simply can't compete."
It doesn't need to compete, it merely needs to make a profit. Since Nintendo's franchises are successful, they're not having a prob with that. They really should try to get more marketshare, but they're a long ways off from being the next Sega.
"Every friday in typing course we got to play lemonaide stand and whoever got the highest score got a candybar. The highest score ever was like 5000$. The game was written in basic, so I changed the score print line to print score+1000000. We liked to play it cool, so we kept playing the game like normal until some kid walked up behind us, saw the score, them promptly flipped out."
I enjoyed graphics programming, though my teachers didn't. I wrote a program that filled the screen with B&W random dots, then cycled the colors. It looked a LOT like TV static. One of the students had a computer that the teacher couldn't see. That little twerp was always playing a tank game on it. (The rest of us couldn't, we'd get caught in a heartbeat.) So I swapped his game executable with my static generator, and the dude spent 5 minutes staring at the screen wondering whether or not he should tell the teacher he broke the computer.
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"So, Opera won't fix it? They have a proof of concept, and Opera believe their implementation is correct? Maybe, but they still need to provide an update, and something tells me they will .. eventually."
In case anybody's curious, Opera's broken, too.
I'm really kinda saddened by this. There was an exploit a year or two ago that worked in a similar way. It involved using an @ symbol in the header to disguise the true domain. At the time, Mozilla and IE were absolutely broken in that respect, but Opera was nice enough to put up a friendly message saying "Are ya sure you want to enter this particular domain?" (Kinda necessary, those @ symbols are useful.) Guess I just kinda expected more from Opera in this respect.
If it'd been Uranus, I think I woulda called in sick today.
"SlashDot: Jews for nerds. Stuff that's farklempt. *dodges tomatoes*"
Ugh. Everybody thinks they're a stand up philosohoper.
"Any idea how much they were charging for these services?"
I modded you down fair and square!
"I'd be worried about this, if I were Microsoft...Now that Apple hardware is (relatively) cheap, and damn sexy,"
A.) It may be cheap and sexy, but it's hard to find apps for. Best Buy, for example, carries no Mac software.
B.) No Games. Sorry.
C.) Regardless of the low price, Apple has a huge hurdle to overcome with the general masses that they won't be missing out if they get it.
Microsoft has little to fear from Apple or Linux right now.
... if the title was "Red Vs. Blue".
"Who on earth needs a terabyte of storage? And more importantly, Why would we want it on a non-hard disk. "
Heh. This question is asked every SINGLE time a new capacity is announced.
Here are a few answers:
- Weta. They had so much data flying around while they were working on LotR that they ended up buying iPods and overnighting them to the necessary locations. A 1TB disc not only would have made their lives easier, but they also could have used a few of these to perform regular backups.
- The entertainment industry wanting to do more with video discs. HDTV comes to mind. TV series collections come to mind.
- RedHat will need to move to one of these discs before too much longer.
- I have about 300 gigs on my desktop right now. In a year or two, I probably could hit a terrabyte. I'd love to back up EVERYTHING on one disc. Preferably a CD-lookin disc that I can store somewhere and not a bulky firewire drive.
- Every time new storage comes along... EVERY TIME... somebody comes up with an interesting way of filling it up. This exact same question came up when CD-ROMs were introduced. Back then, the average hard drive was like 100 megs.
"So if I get Linux, all my Linux software will run. Right?"
I wonder if now'd be a good time to mention copy and paste.
"You want interoperability? Just dump Microsoft and use everything else."
Question: There's something I do from time to time using Office and I'd like to know if there's a free OSS alternative that does the same (or better?):
I make spreadsheets in Excel. Sometimes I select a bunch of cells, open a new email in Outlook, and hit paste. When that happens, a duplicate of my spreadsheet is dropped right into the email, and it's still fully functionable editable. Not only has this helped me out a few times, but it's also a great example of interoperability. Is that possible with OSS?
"Guess they don't attempt to interoperate between three different version of Office within their organization."
My previous company had a mixture of Office 97, Office 2K, and Office XP running all at once. There weren't any interoperability problems. (On a side note: There wasn't much difference to upgrade past 2k, either.)
"We bloody need a CD ROM drive 'cause some idiots in Redmond can't write small code... Have you triede to install Win95 from diskettes ??"
Have you tried to install RedHat?
"1) get the game earlier"
In that one case. Not every game comes out on PS2 first, nor is it necessary that the PS2 version is released first.
"2) never have to worry about the game's compatiblity with graphics card/drivers"
I agree with this. (I actually prefer most games on console. Vice City in particular is not one of them.) Linux is not exempt from this problem.
"3) never have to worry about the game's compatibility with windows updates"
Never had this problem. I haven't played a game in the last 3 years that didn't work on 2k and XP.
"a) you have to pay for the game for whetever system. That is unless you are using a warez'd copy but you could do that with a chipped ps2 as well"
The context of this conversation was using a PC to play games. You suggested a PS2 instead. Not every PC gamer has a PS2, myself included. You're right if you have both a PS2 and a PC, you're not otherwise. On a side note: Most PC games (not Vice City, though) have a freely downloadable demo version.
"b/c) PS2 version and the PS2 controller is just fine for controlling the game."
It is inferior compared to KB and mouse.
"And with greatest hits titles priced new from $19.99 you can get a used game for like $15 or less plus you can also rent console games."
Tell that to somebody who plays UT2004 on the internet every night how great consoles are instead of trying to band-aid Linux into playing Windows games.
"...that run perfect on cedega."
"Crap! I just bought a game, but it doesn't run on cedega and I can't return it! ARGH!"
Painful if you like buying games shortly after they come out.
"This might come as a surprise to the /. community, but many users don't understand the concept of an "operating system". Many users don't know the difference between Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Office."
No, but they do know the difference between a Mac and PC. Even if Linux were an option, it's difficult to imagine a significant portion of the masses suddenly floating torards it. Linux needs better software and peripheral support. It wouldn't hurt to get software for Linux on store shelves, also. I know, I know, everything's gotta be FREE FREE FREE but it really does create the impression to the uninformed that Linux is a toy that isn't being taken very seriously.
"What are you, a fucking retard? I'll play Vice City on my PS, thank you very much."
I'm a retard?
a.) I don't have a Playstation. It'd cost me $150 plus the cost of the game to play it on anything but Windows.
b.) The PC version has significantly better graphics.
c.) The PC version also uses a mouse and keyboard. For a game like this, this style of input is quite superior to a standard PS2 controller.
d.) Sorry bud, no mods for the PS2 version.
So, yeah, the retard got himself a better gaming experience than you did without spending any more money.
"Does anyone know what the officially recorded cause of death was?"
Sorry, I can't post recorded content on the internet without being a Communist.
"Since there are a few PSP Japan imports floating around the US, what's to stop EU consumers from doing the same?"
Price.
"Anyone care to explain why Europe tends to be the second-class citizen for practically all tech releases?"
It'd help if Europe used NTSC like USA and Japan does. Not saying it'd solve it, but it'd definitely help. (Note: I'm talking about the video game market in general. For obvious reasons, the PSP is exempt.)
"Why Does Windows Still Suck?
So why not ask this question about Linux? I mean, if it doesn't suck, then why is there a small fraction of people using it?
"You have no excuse to run win."... unless you want to play other games like Vice City.
"CDROMs were sold on the basis of things like encyclopedias and information archives. CDROM games weren't that common until well after CDROM drives became standard."
CD-ROMs sold because a bunch of games came out that used them. Companies like Sierra and LucasArts were taking their popular adventure game and adding voice to them. Games like Rebel Assault effectively used FMV to make for a distinctive game. Etc. CD-ROM drives were a must have for gamers long before they became standard hardware.
"Do you really think that if EB cleared their shelves of Windows games and replaced them all with Linux games that Linux would become the dominant OS ?"
Yes. Games are pretty much the only thing most people can't do effectively on Linux. Make Linux the must-have-gaming-OS, and suddenly it takes off like wildfire.
"Gamers are too small a percentage of computer users to dictate platforms to everyone else."
You do realize that we all have CD ROMs and sound cards because of games, right?
Windows gamers are numbered in the 10s of millions. If you don't believe me, then I'd like you to explain why EB is stuffed with Windows games on the shelves with little to no support for any other OS.
"Many disputed this assertion, but Nintendo has become increasingly reliant upon its existing franchises- especially Mario and Zelda (and to a lesser extent, Smash Bros. which includes both)"
It's disputed because Nintendo has 6 billion in the bank to play with, whereas Sega had to drop the Dreamcast because they didn't have the money they needed to build DC units to sell. A million units cost like 200 million to build, and they didn't have the money.
"Gamecube simply can't compete."
It doesn't need to compete, it merely needs to make a profit. Since Nintendo's franchises are successful, they're not having a prob with that. They really should try to get more marketshare, but they're a long ways off from being the next Sega.
"Humans have a pretty piss poor track record when wielding large amounts of power."
Really? Then why's the planet still here? Afterall, we're in control of enough energy to scorch the surface of it a few times.
"Every friday in typing course we got to play lemonaide stand and whoever got the highest score got a candybar. The highest score ever was like 5000$. The game was written in basic, so I changed the score print line to print score+1000000. We liked to play it cool, so we kept playing the game like normal until some kid walked up behind us, saw the score, them promptly flipped out."
I enjoyed graphics programming, though my teachers didn't. I wrote a program that filled the screen with B&W random dots, then cycled the colors. It looked a LOT like TV static. One of the students had a computer that the teacher couldn't see. That little twerp was always playing a tank game on it. (The rest of us couldn't, we'd get caught in a heartbeat.) So I swapped his game executable with my static generator, and the dude spent 5 minutes staring at the screen wondering whether or not he should tell the teacher he broke the computer.