A request through the Court system would usually be in the process of discovery after a charge has been laid. Even in the USA I think search warrants are served by police in the investigation process and seizure of the machines would only be contemplated where the person holding the machine might destroy evidence.
Raid is a strong word and in this case a little excessive I think. The report says te police turned up with a search warrent and computer forensics experts. I suspect they got the cooperation of the ISP rather than close down Telstra (which has i dunno 50% of the internet market in Australia) by taking away servers.
I always thought small fry p2p users just opened their home machines to the network. But there have been stories in the Australian papers recently that suggest that ISPs are actually hosting p2p fodder on their own account in order to stimulate traffic. Unless these raids are looking for this type of material or anon ftp sites or stolen space I guess the police are in fact looking at traffic logs a la Verizon.
Those sorts of problems could be covered in a well written contract. As an employee you generally can't be sued for screwing up anyway, only if there is 'malicious intent'. And as a contractor you would generally be required to produce code that covered all known or reasonably knowable vulnerabilities.
The point is that programmers should make the employer/owner aware of any 'backdoors' they are including in the code. If the employer/owner knows about it it's not really a backdoor, it's a debug hook. I suspect we all agree with that.
But if the employer/owner doesn't know about it and somehow finds out they will naturally be suspicious.
I know that. But the point of my post was that it will eventually run out and the free market has no way of altering that fact. The free market can only alter the speed at which it runs out.The mention of the fish stocks was an example of the problem associated with a blind reliance on the market for something that it is not particularly suited for.
I personally don't believe that the current crisis in the Middle East is associated with oil. The US and other Western powers have a long history of making deals with reprehensible dictators to the disadvantage of the dictators subjects.
Democracy comes with the responsibility to participate and the freedom not to participate.
The people that don't are certainly making a choice. Their choice is "I'm not interested in thinking that hard so I'll let someone else make a choice for me then bitch and moan if I don't like the consequences."
How would everyone having the SAME mark (as is suggested by the quote) on their forehead help in tracking other than to identify those that don't have the mark.
Can I suggest that if the Bible is the inerrant word of god, not just the bits attributed to god or jesus then if the bible says an angel said something then that is the truth in your terms. I am not a believer in the inerrant truth of the literal terms of the bible and evenI realize that much.
Unfortunately believers in the literal truth of the bible are required to hold some very intellectually tricky positions. More unfortunately many of those people are unsuited to the task.
Because it is impossible to check the facts sometimes but journo's still use the material and make it look like they wrote it.
I got an example this morning where the demonization of the already odious Khalid Shaikh Mohammed was reinforced by a journo using material that could only have come from US gov sources and quotes one US investigator as saying "Even more important, they treasured the mans evil genius... He refined the various strands of terrorism to deliver atrocities others had never even thought of"
I can't actually imagine a person saying those words except in a very bad movie. Aside from the fact that he never came up with anything that hadn't been done or described before.
I don't think these much good journalism around at the moment.
And what oil shortage are you talking about? The only oil shortages I know came of during the 1970s. And again, that was due to politics (OPEC), not a real shortage. Which is not to say that there's an infinite amount of oil, but that so far the (relatively) free market has done a good job of distributing resources so that they don't run out.
Agreed about shortages caused by politics but the free market doesn't do a good job of distributing resources so they don't run out. It does a good job, in spite of politics, in providing people with enough oil when they ask for it (even if the price is a little high sometimes) as long as they can make a buck.
The problem with that is exemplified by the current state of fish stocks. There are certainly some grounds that have been fished out possibly forever and that has been caused by 'free market' factory fishing without concern for sustainability.
At least for fish there is a possibility of a sustainable industry given that fishes reproduce. Oil is not being made at any great rate and so will eventually run out. Whether in 10 years or 200 years is irrelevant but it will run out. A free market will not change that. Best the free market can do is find some other method of supplying the free world with personal transportation.
Hopefully it will not pollute as much as the gas powered internal combustion engine but the free market doesn't care. It will supply whatever it can convince consumers to think they need.
have nothing to hide, and there should be no concern for privacy
Just because someone has nothing to hide it doesn't mean they are happy for everyone to know everything in intimate detail. That I have nothing to hide as far as the government or law enforcement is concerned doesn't mean I am happy to have you watch me in the shower.
I always assumed that the term "nothing to hide" meant roughly that I had nothing that would cause me too much grief if it became known to people who mattered to me in some way (eg I don't want my wife to know about the pr0n or my boss to know its gay pr0n).
As you don't particularly matter to me its not a question of 'nothing to hide', it's just none of your damn business.
monopoly? I'm sure no one will mind if you build a shuttle fleet in your backyard and start ferrying your kiwi neighbours into deep space never to return. all you need is a few trillion dollars and some brains.
You mean they can see how much cash i have on me as i walk into the store through the a security screens. no wonder i can never seem to get ahead, they change the prices when they see me coming.
I assumed the milar strip was either a security device to foil forgers or in the case of the usa an aid to automatic counting (are not all your bills the same size and colour)
name me a few bands that have done this since the internet made it possible. go to mp3.com or where ever unsigned bands leave their music and ask them how much they have made. I think that those figures are pretty unreal as to the amount of money that bands can make from online sales.
we all know that whole Linux distros are freely available for download on the Internet; and this hasn't ruined Linux, has it
and the coders didn't get paid for that either. what is your point?
excuse me if i show my complete lack of knowledge of the culinary arts but wtf is this with water in a salad dressing. I have made a few but never included water. i asked the girls in the office around me just now and they do not understand the concept of water in a salad dressing.
and do you know why. because water doesn't cling to the salad.
why all of a sudden will they start using water in their salad dressings. It would just run off the lettuce and pool at the bottom of the bowl.
I remember one article about the success or otherwise of individual traders which suggested that to know whether the ability of an individual trader to consistently beat the market was due to luck or something else would require about 72 years of data points. I presume that's based on the relatively few decisions they actually make.
If that's anything like the truth then its safest to assume that its luck.
And it beats me how a trader can get any clients with the line "Heck, I don't know why this works but it has so far so just gimme the money and I'll make you rich"
otherwise they would be sitting in a detention centre right now appealing their refusal of refugee status by the Australian Gumment. Bloody alien queue jumpers will not be tolerated.
It's still tracking each sale, and by extension, each buyer.
It would only be by extension, each buyer if the GRid had a field for a buyer id. It would defeat the purpose of having a single tag for counting sales if they then had to tie the buyer to the file by looking in two different places ie the tag and the issuers sales database in whatever format that is.
So until there is some change in the tag definition it's hard to be concerned.
And I can't see any privacy law allowing a retailer to place personally identifying information on a file that could be viewed by all and sundry. At least without very explicit agreement at some point in the process.
I'm not sure the music industry puts out millions of songs/format combinations per year
My kid is 17. Here is what he tells me. He won't buy CD's because if a CD has a song that he likes there will be 12-15 songs on there that he thinks SUCK. In other words he's paying ~$15 for ONE SONG. He would rip that one song to HDD and compile his own CD to use in his car with only the songs that he likes.
But, at ~$15 each and being limited by law to only working a max of 20 hours a week at minimum wage he can't afford too many CD's.
This still stands as the worst excuse for music piracy (and the most popular) that I have seen... because i don't want to pay. It doesn't even consider any copyright issues like fair use or public benefit. Just straight to the issue of I don't accept that the record companies have a right to set a price for their product or services in excess of what I can get it for from a file share network ie zero. And then you tell us that he (or you) wouldn't pay for it even if there was a reasonable price set because you don't participate in the general finance system
Buy the bloody single if you only want the hit. And don't tell me how they're not value for money. That's just "I don't want to pay, that much".
Or tape it off the FM radio. You can get a listenable quality mp3 from fm without much trouble.
Or better yet why not work 40 hours a week (stuff the unfair labour laws) and then he'll be able to afford more CDs. Or steal the green cash from someone. Its only a piece of paper.
Kids are smart, far smarter than the people that try to maintain their grip on the music industry.
The ability to use Kazaa does not count in any determination of what is smart. Nor should it.
If something must be paid for there will always be someone that will find a way to get it for free.
That's better. Why should I pay for it if I can get it for free. That I can understand.
I predict to see a tool to strip the tags on freshmeat the next day..
So what. The online stores are only counting them out so they can keep track of sales for the record companies in a single format. Did you really think that that was the best the RIAA could come up with in their attempts to stop piracy. RIAA might not be smart but they aren't really stupid.
it is because you are not creditworthy or trustworthy in financial matters.
So all those Enron e,ployess whose pension plans tanked because of little kenny's trustworthy in financial matters and who missed a couple of car payments or who hwld on as long as possible and eventually had the banks sell up their house should what? starve because they are not creditworty or trustworthy in financial maters.
In the criminal justice system at least a few people have to get involved in getting you a criminal record.
I could get you a bad credit rating tomorrow if I tried hard enough and YOU wouldn't even know until you applied for your next job. How stupid are you going to look when you try to convince them that you didn't know about it and it's wrong anyway. And then there's the fun of trying to convince the rating agencies that they are wrong
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Raid is a strong word and in this case a little excessive I think. The report says te police turned up with a search warrent and computer forensics experts. I suspect they got the cooperation of the ISP rather than close down Telstra (which has i dunno 50% of the internet market in Australia) by taking away servers.
I always thought small fry p2p users just opened their home machines to the network. But there have been stories in the Australian papers recently that suggest that ISPs are actually hosting p2p fodder on their own account in order to stimulate traffic. Unless these raids are looking for this type of material or anon ftp sites or stolen space I guess the police are in fact looking at traffic logs a la Verizon.
Clear now?
The point is that programmers should make the employer/owner aware of any 'backdoors' they are including in the code. If the employer/owner knows about it it's not really a backdoor, it's a debug hook. I suspect we all agree with that.
But if the employer/owner doesn't know about it and somehow finds out they will naturally be suspicious.
I personally don't believe that the current crisis in the Middle East is associated with oil. The US and other Western powers have a long history of making deals with reprehensible dictators to the disadvantage of the dictators subjects.
Why don't they just send the french ahead to check the place for truffles or something.
The people that don't are certainly making a choice. Their choice is "I'm not interested in thinking that hard so I'll let someone else make a choice for me then bitch and moan if I don't like the consequences."
Can I suggest that if the Bible is the inerrant word of god, not just the bits attributed to god or jesus then if the bible says an angel said something then that is the truth in your terms. I am not a believer in the inerrant truth of the literal terms of the bible and evenI realize that much.
Unfortunately believers in the literal truth of the bible are required to hold some very intellectually tricky positions. More unfortunately many of those people are unsuited to the task.
Because it is impossible to check the facts sometimes but journo's still use the material and make it look like they wrote it.
I got an example this morning where the demonization of the already odious Khalid Shaikh Mohammed was reinforced by a journo using material that could only have come from US gov sources and quotes one US investigator as saying "Even more important, they treasured the mans evil genius... He refined the various strands of terrorism to deliver atrocities others had never even thought of"
I can't actually imagine a person saying those words except in a very bad movie. Aside from the fact that he never came up with anything that hadn't been done or described before.
I don't think these much good journalism around at the moment.
Agreed about shortages caused by politics but the free market doesn't do a good job of distributing resources so they don't run out. It does a good job, in spite of politics, in providing people with enough oil when they ask for it (even if the price is a little high sometimes) as long as they can make a buck.
The problem with that is exemplified by the current state of fish stocks. There are certainly some grounds that have been fished out possibly forever and that has been caused by 'free market' factory fishing without concern for sustainability.
At least for fish there is a possibility of a sustainable industry given that fishes reproduce. Oil is not being made at any great rate and so will eventually run out. Whether in 10 years or 200 years is irrelevant but it will run out. A free market will not change that. Best the free market can do is find some other method of supplying the free world with personal transportation.
Hopefully it will not pollute as much as the gas powered internal combustion engine but the free market doesn't care. It will supply whatever it can convince consumers to think they need.
that some innocent tries to google tejass by accident and ends up listening to the butthole surfers.
Why isn't this type of crap covered by the security circumvention laws.
Just because someone has nothing to hide it doesn't mean they are happy for everyone to know everything in intimate detail. That I have nothing to hide as far as the government or law enforcement is concerned doesn't mean I am happy to have you watch me in the shower.
I always assumed that the term "nothing to hide" meant roughly that I had nothing that would cause me too much grief if it became known to people who mattered to me in some way (eg I don't want my wife to know about the pr0n or my boss to know its gay pr0n).
As you don't particularly matter to me its not a question of 'nothing to hide', it's just none of your damn business.
oh, wait. you're a kiwi.
I assumed the milar strip was either a security device to foil forgers or in the case of the usa an aid to automatic counting (are not all your bills the same size and colour)
How could you forget Asprin, the brand that started it all
we all know that whole Linux distros are freely available for download on the Internet; and this hasn't ruined Linux, has it
and the coders didn't get paid for that either. what is your point?
and do you know why. because water doesn't cling to the salad.
why all of a sudden will they start using water in their salad dressings. It would just run off the lettuce and pool at the bottom of the bowl.
If that's anything like the truth then its safest to assume that its luck.
And it beats me how a trader can get any clients with the line "Heck, I don't know why this works but it has so far so just gimme the money and I'll make you rich"
I have no doubt there will be a special filter for your material.
otherwise they would be sitting in a detention centre right now appealing their refusal of refugee status by the Australian Gumment. Bloody alien queue jumpers will not be tolerated.
It would only be by extension, each buyer if the GRid had a field for a buyer id. It would defeat the purpose of having a single tag for counting sales if they then had to tie the buyer to the file by looking in two different places ie the tag and the issuers sales database in whatever format that is.
So until there is some change in the tag definition it's hard to be concerned.
And I can't see any privacy law allowing a retailer to place personally identifying information on a file that could be viewed by all and sundry. At least without very explicit agreement at some point in the process.
I'm not sure the music industry puts out millions of songs/format combinations per year
That's what they said about ipv4.
Get a second job. And lie to the new boss about other work.
This still stands as the worst excuse for music piracy (and the most popular) that I have seen ... because i don't want to pay. It doesn't even consider any copyright issues like fair use or public benefit. Just straight to the issue of I don't accept that the record companies have a right to set a price for their product or services in excess of what I can get it for from a file share network ie zero. And then you tell us that he (or you) wouldn't pay for it even if there was a reasonable price set because you don't participate in the general finance system
Buy the bloody single if you only want the hit. And don't tell me how they're not value for money. That's just "I don't want to pay, that much".
Or tape it off the FM radio. You can get a listenable quality mp3 from fm without much trouble.
Or better yet why not work 40 hours a week (stuff the unfair labour laws) and then he'll be able to afford more CDs. Or steal the green cash from someone. Its only a piece of paper.
Kids are smart, far smarter than the people that try to maintain their grip on the music industry.
The ability to use Kazaa does not count in any determination of what is smart. Nor should it.
If something must be paid for there will always be someone that will find a way to get it for free.
That's better. Why should I pay for it if I can get it for free. That I can understand.
I predict to see a tool to strip the tags on freshmeat the next day..
So what. The online stores are only counting them out so they can keep track of sales for the record companies in a single format. Did you really think that that was the best the RIAA could come up with in their attempts to stop piracy. RIAA might not be smart but they aren't really stupid.
So all those Enron e,ployess whose pension plans tanked because of little kenny's trustworthy in financial matters and who missed a couple of car payments or who hwld on as long as possible and eventually had the banks sell up their house should what? starve because they are not creditworty or trustworthy in financial maters.
In the criminal justice system at least a few people have to get involved in getting you a criminal record.
I could get you a bad credit rating tomorrow if I tried hard enough and YOU wouldn't even know until you applied for your next job. How stupid are you going to look when you try to convince them that you didn't know about it and it's wrong anyway. And then there's the fun of trying to convince the rating agencies that they are wrong