In order to use OOo to do automatic PDF export, you need a dummy user, and extra X session on tty8, and a cron script, all with OOo open all the time. Seems kind of a waste, huh?
The problem is that OOo now only does thiskind of thing in graphical mode. Look at the trouble someone had getting automatic PDF generation of OOo or Word documents: create a macro; automatically check a directory every n minutes for new files; open the new file; print to PDF; and delete the old file. He needed a dedicated Xsession on tty9 logged in to a dummt user all the time to accomplish this. It should be easier than that.
Look for printall.sxw here for more details.
These missing perl programs need to start appearing to make this easier (and no, I don't do perl).
Plague of painful sores
Seas, rivers, and springs turn to blood
Plague of darkness
Plague of Locusts
Great Earthquake
The four Horsemen
I think that was Creeping Death, and not The Four Horsemen. Different albums, you know...
I totally agree with you, and every time we have a story like this, the number of slashdotters who say this is huge. We need to remember this, however, the next time a "Your Rights Online" story comes up about parents wanting to protect children from something they see as a bad influence, and people post that they look on it as oppressing children.
You're right that it's the parents' responsibility. With rights come responsibilities; with responsibilities come the rights to achieve them.
You should subscribe to the K12LTSP mailing list, because I know that a lot of guys are struggling witht he same problems, and even have a petition running. I think that most use Win4Lin to solve the problem, but you might post over there. Many helpful people wait to help you.
Soryy, I guess it was unclear. By xterm , I mean exporting the x display to six different diskless computers, meaning the Duron is doing all that work. It wasn't a bash on you at all. I read your web page and it was quite interesting, in fact.
You are right that the RIAA is not concious, but what I really think you meant to say was that they have no conscience. Alas, another English nit pick chalked up to me.
I now honestly believe that Linux and open source are big, bald-faced lies perpetrated on the industry by itself. This isn't the first time; the dot-com boom was like this as well. How many credible people told each other with a straight face that profit didn't matter? This seems much too similar to "free software" to me.
IT organizations are simply not equipped to deal with intellectual property theft issues within a product they have deployed widely. They have neither the legal expertise nor the budget to even properly assess the risk, let alone effectively mitigate it.
The key licenses that surround Linux, for the most part, have yet to be fully tested in court. These initial tests seldom go the way the drafters intended, because judges are not technical and the issues are complex. With the proliferation of firms whose existence is supported solely by the protection of intellectual property they have acquired, these tests are fast approaching and will likely, over time, identify the weaknesses in the current approach. The SCO-IBM lawsuit is the latest example of these kinds of tests, as are NTP's patent lawsuit against Research in Motion, Intergraph's litigation against Intel, and even Sun's Java lawsuit against Microsoft. The market may soon be defined by the ability to litigate rather than the ability to develop, and products like Linux, which have a weak defense, may simply not survive this market phase.
One of the things that most concerns me, because it was major failing in previous anti-establishment (read "anti-Microsoft") initiatives, is the behavior of the most visible advocates for these alternative platforms. Microsoft has clearly been blessed with challengers who apparently never learned not to run around blindfolded with sharp objects pointed at their own hearts.
The governments are replacing existing foreign systems with domestic ones
The goverments want to encourage other local software that interacts with their offering to improve the economy.
Most Asian countries sport a non-western alphabet (west/east, get it?) that OSes produced in the west fare poorly at. Adapting Linux apps to support Thai is a full time job for people here. MS has many problems, which the governments can't fix for themselves.
The Asian govenments are really seeking to develop their local IT industries, so that they can begin competing globally. This is their main reason, and they are unlikely to close their source (except, maybe, the PRC) because it would defeat this purpose.
None of these reasons seem poor to me, but they do affect the west, and especially the US, which receive a disproportionate amount of profit from the world's IT purchases. Proprietary systems still have the opportunity of interacting with these new OSes and applications, though.
Japan is leading Asia into open source. They recently hosted a convention on OS in Asia, and many of the participants have come out of it with projects like this. Let me tell you the reason. The major one is not that they'll save money or keep their money in country, believe it or not. It is to build their local IT industry. Many of these countries are trying to move out of dependence on foreign labor for their IT requirements while building the abilities of their local labor. That makes good economic sense for them, even more than any hard currency saved.
Thailand is close to a national OS and office suite, but that doesn't mean that they're showing MS the door, or even working against competing Thai Linux distributions, which they also encourage.
First of all, you know I live in Thailand and follow this story pretty closely if you read my journal. I would like to clarify a little bit.
This offer is only for buyers of the low cost computer program, which comes preloaded with LinuxTLE. It is not available to the general public, where the prices still stand as usual. Some say it is a fight against Linux, but many Linux columnists say it is a fight against Panthip Plaza (the famous computer mall where illegal software is available for virtually nothing), and
It is for XP Home and Office Standard edition, which is nothing like the military purchase.
I still think it's sucks to be able to legally offer this price only on certain computers, but Thailand's laws are not like the west's. As an aside, the story from your link referenced LinuxTLE with another story, citing it as a "Thai language version," but that other story did not mention the operating system and only generally talked about Linux in Asia. Rather odd.
I am in a situation where my significant other owns 95% of the business I started and capitalized. It makes everything very scary, but virtually guarantees to her that I won't leave her. I can only make myself indespensible in an attempt to not lose everything.
Your link answers none of the pertinent questions raised. It, instead, tries to prove that Linux is just as suceptible, while, as the original poster did, offering no proof. Thanks for a glib and useless post.
I cannot be the only one who tires of your constant trolling of this subject. If your logic were good, it would be fine: I would say that you were misguided. But you obviously have been effectively argued against many times, without a change in your tactics. This implies that either:
You have no sense of logical argument, or
You are trolling.
I go for the second, because you have found a way to get modded up and spur useless discussion in every story that I have read over the last week, saying exactly the same thing every time.
Next time you post this drivel, make it worth my time to read and make a list of remotely exploitable bugs (or some severity that you may choose yourself) that are in a normal desktop/server (your choice) install of Redhat (or, again, any other distribution, preferably a common one) and compare this to a comparably loaded Windows machine. To blindly post a link to a security website where the information cannot be, in any realistic sense, compared to Windows is lazy, and to do it repeatedly over the course of a week is repulsive and trollish.
Otherwise, I may have to start allowing myself to moderate just so that I can blast your stupid posts to -1.
Stop trolling and start contributing to the discussion, please.
Dan
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In order to use OOo to do automatic PDF export, you need a dummy user, and extra X session on tty8, and a cron script, all with OOo open all the time. Seems kind of a waste, huh?
The problem is that OOo now only does thiskind of thing in graphical mode. Look at the trouble someone had getting automatic PDF generation of OOo or Word documents: create a macro; automatically check a directory every n minutes for new files; open the new file; print to PDF; and delete the old file. He needed a dedicated Xsession on tty9 logged in to a dummt user all the time to accomplish this. It should be easier than that.
Look for printall.sxw here for more details.
These missing perl programs need to start appearing to make this easier (and no, I don't do perl).
That is the developers' release pages. They expect that you already know. Try Mitel Networks for the marketized version of everything.
Plague of painful sores
Seas, rivers, and springs turn to blood
Plague of darkness
Plague of Locusts
Great Earthquake
The four Horsemen
I think that was Creeping Death, and not The Four Horsemen. Different albums, you know...
I totally agree with you, and every time we have a story like this, the number of slashdotters who say this is huge. We need to remember this, however, the next time a "Your Rights Online" story comes up about parents wanting to protect children from something they see as a bad influence, and people post that they look on it as oppressing children.
You're right that it's the parents' responsibility. With rights come responsibilities; with responsibilities come the rights to achieve them.
You should subscribe to the K12LTSP mailing list, because I know that a lot of guys are struggling witht he same problems, and even have a petition running. I think that most use Win4Lin to solve the problem, but you might post over there. Many helpful people wait to help you.
Similarly, The ICT Ministry of Thailand has recently commited to 50% use of Linux in gov't within 3 years. They also have a low cost computer program, which comes preloaded with Linux.
Soryy, I guess it was unclear. By xterm , I mean exporting the x display to six different diskless computers, meaning the Duron is doing all that work. It wasn't a bash on you at all. I read your web page and it was quite interesting, in fact.
And, if you're careful, you can usae a lower end box (Duron 1.1) to run six xterms, like I did. Fancy that.
Why would he mention it? Swift was a satirist. Almost everything he wrote was satire.
God! I just pissed my pants. Gotta love Texans, huh?
Better to use your shotgun on his right knee, evacuate the house, and let the police do the rest, because he ain't goin' nowhere after that.
I get paid in Baht... Rupees would be good!
It was balanced when it was The MacNeil-Lehrer News Hour. They lost a lot when it became just Jim Lehrer's show.
You are right that the RIAA is not concious, but what I really think you meant to say was that they have no conscience. Alas, another English nit pick chalked up to me.
BBIAgent requires nothing. Just go to the web page, fill in the info about your computer and network, and download a router. That's it.
(amercan living in Japan for the illeterate)
This is just too funny to even comment on. I hope you aren't an EFL teacher...
- The governments are replacing existing foreign systems with domestic ones
- The goverments want to encourage other local software that interacts with their offering to improve the economy.
- Most Asian countries sport a non-western alphabet (west/east, get it?) that OSes produced in the west fare poorly at. Adapting Linux apps to support Thai is a full time job for people here. MS has many problems, which the governments can't fix for themselves.
- The Asian govenments are really seeking to develop their local IT industries, so that they can begin competing globally. This is their main reason, and they are unlikely to close their source (except, maybe, the PRC) because it would defeat this purpose.
None of these reasons seem poor to me, but they do affect the west, and especially the US, which receive a disproportionate amount of profit from the world's IT purchases. Proprietary systems still have the opportunity of interacting with these new OSes and applications, though.Japan is leading Asia into open source. They recently hosted a convention on OS in Asia, and many of the participants have come out of it with projects like this. Let me tell you the reason. The major one is not that they'll save money or keep their money in country, believe it or not. It is to build their local IT industry. Many of these countries are trying to move out of dependence on foreign labor for their IT requirements while building the abilities of their local labor. That makes good economic sense for them, even more than any hard currency saved.
Thailand is close to a national OS and office suite, but that doesn't mean that they're showing MS the door, or even working against competing Thai Linux distributions, which they also encourage.
- This offer is only for buyers of the low cost computer program, which comes preloaded with LinuxTLE. It is not available to the general public, where the prices still stand as usual. Some say it is a fight against Linux, but many Linux columnists say it is a fight against Panthip Plaza (the famous computer mall where illegal software is available for virtually nothing), and
- It is for XP Home and Office Standard edition, which is nothing like the military purchase.
I still think it's sucks to be able to legally offer this price only on certain computers, but Thailand's laws are not like the west's. As an aside, the story from your link referenced LinuxTLE with another story, citing it as a "Thai language version," but that other story did not mention the operating system and only generally talked about Linux in Asia. Rather odd.I am in a situation where my significant other owns 95% of the business I started and capitalized. It makes everything very scary, but virtually guarantees to her that I won't leave her. I can only make myself indespensible in an attempt to not lose everything.
Your link answers none of the pertinent questions raised. It, instead, tries to prove that Linux is just as suceptible, while, as the original poster did, offering no proof. Thanks for a glib and useless post.
- You have no sense of logical argument, or
- You are trolling.
I go for the second, because you have found a way to get modded up and spur useless discussion in every story that I have read over the last week, saying exactly the same thing every time.Next time you post this drivel, make it worth my time to read and make a list of remotely exploitable bugs (or some severity that you may choose yourself) that are in a normal desktop/server (your choice) install of Redhat (or, again, any other distribution, preferably a common one) and compare this to a comparably loaded Windows machine. To blindly post a link to a security website where the information cannot be, in any realistic sense, compared to Windows is lazy, and to do it repeatedly over the course of a week is repulsive and trollish.
Otherwise, I may have to start allowing myself to moderate just so that I can blast your stupid posts to -1.
Stop trolling and start contributing to the discussion, please.
Dan
No, they should have said an open MSOffice application. Office doesn't belong to Microsoft, MSOffice does.