When I lived in Thailand and legit DVDs of older movies cost about US$2.50 (99 Baht), my collection mushroomed, but since I moved to S. Korea, where the cost is about US$25 (25000 Won), I haven't bought any.
Reading the Greek tragedies is a great introduction to English lit, because much of the great Renaissance work was built on them and knowing about them makes the classics that much easier to understand. The classics are, in turn, rehashed endlessly in modern media.
I'm not trying to argue with you, just pointing out that the great Greek plays have much more to offer in an English class than understanding humanity, though they do that, as well.
In high school, I was required to read much of the material that made Mortimer Adler's list of western classics. I wasn't an English major. My work didn't even revolve around English for years, but I still found the things that I learned from those books amazingly useful on a daily basis.
I'm an American living in S. Korea, an the situation here is closer to that of Japan than of the U.S. Samsung not only sells you your TV and cell phone, but runs your utilities, gas, and heating oil and fixes your car. They compete with LG (formerly GoldStar) on all these fronts. Just about every major business is owned by one of five conglomerates, competing against each other in a win/win style.
You made a serious error comparing your town of a million to LA. The LA metro area was estimated by the 1990 census at over 16 million people. London, on the other hand, is estimated at a mere 11M.
If you think that London is not urbanized, read this:
London's urbanised area is rarely recognised as being a metropolitan region. In fact, the area known officially as Greater London is commonly referred to as the metropolitan district, but this accounts for only 7m of the 11.8m people living in a continuous urban area (agglomeration) at the centre of which is London.
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LA is atypical for a large city. In fact, London has over three times as many skyscrapers (1773) as LA (512), despite being about 70% of its size. This contibutes in a major way to the urban sprawl of LA. Seattle, the GP's city, is similarly, geograpically large.
How you get from "it's crazy giving cops tools like Microsoft Office or StarOffice in the first place" to "cops are just moronic, club-wielding brutes that walk a beat," I don't know. Clearly you didn't read his post with a clear head.
Right. Since the police station in question is moving to Sharepoint, I don't think that they're really worried about having their server fail and people being left in the cold.
Let's face it. The stated tasks would be much better on a central server, whether a web app or not, and they are going to be on one. This argument is inane.
Actually, if MS wants to move into the computer business and lock out all their competitors, as Apple does, I say "Go ahead and do it!"
The x86-based manufacturing giants like Dell and Acer and whoever wouldn't just fold up shop. They'd find alternative software immediately. The world would become sane and MS would find itself with a normal market share.
Apple isn't evil for maintaining control of their hardware business, and I think that the GP was being facetious about wanting MS to do it. MS could never leverage their software near-monopoly into a scarily large hardware market share, or they would have done it already.
Or, you could convert all those Word docs to Writer and use Ant like this guy did to xsl transform the xml into a website. I discovered this website because I'm starting to write a CMS in PHP5 which automatically adds content from OO.o documents.
Alternately, you could use Writer2Latex to generate XHTML 1.0 strict for yourself.
Face it - Apple has a history of supporting their legacy customers for as long as is technically and financially feasable, and the developers have generally gone along with this.
Unless you were one of those who bought an Apple IIGS in the early 90's:
Apple's efforts to de-emphasize the Apple II went so far as to have their developer technical support staff specifically recommend that new applications not be created for the Apple II or IIGS, but rather for the Macintosh. Apple authorized dealers tended to direct potential customers away from purchase of any new Apple II product, and towards the Macintosh platform, often making this advice because "the Apple II is about to be discontinued anyway".
[Apple II History]
I never linked the two ideas. It was simply an additional piece of info stuck at the end. They want to be pro-gamers because it's glamorous right now.
I'm not anti-Confucian, but the original poster seemed to think that it was the answer to the education problem in the west. I wanted to point out that pretty much every Asian education department has been discussing for years how to change the culture of education to encourage children to think, rather than rote-memorize books of information which they don't truly understand.
The Confucian tradition encourages that, you know... The point is that both cultures are stuggling with their own problems in education.
You know, I'm just as disgusted about the state of American education as you are, but you need to stop blaming the western culture for that.
I live in Asia, and I love it, but my teen students in Korea aren't any better at their various subjects than the American teens that I know, despite studying from 9:00am to midnight. Sources in China, Japan, and Thailand tell me that it's no different there, either.
What do my students want to be when they grow up? Doctors? Engineers? No. They want to be pro-gamers. So much for your intilectual society and Confucianism. Asian countries are actively seeking to remove Confucian ideals from their education systems in order to produce students that can actually think for themselves.
While I generally agree with your points, I think that you have left out the results of peer interaction. Home-schooled children tend not only to interact with adults more than their public-school equivalents, but also with other children of varying ages. Traditional schooling teaches children that one or two years is a major difference, and that they shouldn't have friends which differ in age from them.
Is that truly healthy? When children grow up, will a year or two truly matter?
Dealing with other children at significantly different developmental levels helps the home-schooler be more open socially.
Certainly, if the parents use home-schooling as an excuse to shelter their children and remove them from social interaction, the children will grow to be socially-inept adults, but that is not the way that it should be.
More on topic, considering the article submitter's insistence on keeping public school, I believe that we should move to an all self-study, unit-based approach, where the teacher acts more as a guide.
Yeah, well, lots of non-open programs are available for the Linux platform at Zeer and Panthip. You can get just about anything that any company has made for any platform, if you look hard enough.
RHES and SUSE Prof., Win4Lin and Codeweavers are all available for purchase there, last time I looked.
BTW, I know that your post was tongue-in-cheek, I just thought that I would fill it out some.
That quote is BS, at lest in Thailand. Piracy is in the high 9x% (98.5 a few years ago), and Linux is huge there. Heck, my brother-in-law told me that he wants Linux because the Prime Minister uses it and says that Windows is old technology. You can't walk into a subway newsstand without seeing Linux for sale.
It's my sig, and it's playful. There are many people on this site who write very well, but an interesting fact is that a portion understands clearly the semantics of several scripting languages but not of fourth-grade English.
If it truly offends you, however, I'll change it. Just tell me.
At about 225 pages per hour, four hours a day for ten years (that's 3,285,000 pages or perhaps 8.2E8 words), I'd think that you would've seen consistently enough times to know how to spell it. I doubt your boasting.
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When I lived in Thailand and legit DVDs of older movies cost about US$2.50 (99 Baht), my collection mushroomed, but since I moved to S. Korea, where the cost is about US$25 (25000 Won), I haven't bought any.
They simply mean that the virus created these devices. You see, it's the next step in computer virus evolution...
Reading the Greek tragedies is a great introduction to English lit, because much of the great Renaissance work was built on them and knowing about them makes the classics that much easier to understand. The classics are, in turn, rehashed endlessly in modern media.
I'm not trying to argue with you, just pointing out that the great Greek plays have much more to offer in an English class than understanding humanity, though they do that, as well.
In high school, I was required to read much of the material that made Mortimer Adler's list of western classics. I wasn't an English major. My work didn't even revolve around English for years, but I still found the things that I learned from those books amazingly useful on a daily basis.
I began the post by referring to the LA metro area. The use of "city" should be obvious from that context. Otherwise, I would have said "LA proper."
I'm an American living in S. Korea, an the situation here is closer to that of Japan than of the U.S. Samsung not only sells you your TV and cell phone, but runs your utilities, gas, and heating oil and fixes your car. They compete with LG (formerly GoldStar) on all these fronts. Just about every major business is owned by one of five conglomerates, competing against each other in a win/win style.
The US is far more diversified than that
LA is atypical for a large city. In fact, London has over three times as many skyscrapers (1773) as LA (512), despite being about 70% of its size. This contibutes in a major way to the urban sprawl of LA. Seattle, the GP's city, is similarly, geograpically large.
How you get from "it's crazy giving cops tools like Microsoft Office or StarOffice in the first place" to "cops are just moronic, club-wielding brutes that walk a beat," I don't know. Clearly you didn't read his post with a clear head.
Right. Since the police station in question is moving to Sharepoint, I don't think that they're really worried about having their server fail and people being left in the cold.
Let's face it. The stated tasks would be much better on a central server, whether a web app or not, and they are going to be on one. This argument is inane.
Actually, if MS wants to move into the computer business and lock out all their competitors, as Apple does, I say "Go ahead and do it!"
The x86-based manufacturing giants like Dell and Acer and whoever wouldn't just fold up shop. They'd find alternative software immediately. The world would become sane and MS would find itself with a normal market share.
Apple isn't evil for maintaining control of their hardware business, and I think that the GP was being facetious about wanting MS to do it. MS could never leverage their software near-monopoly into a scarily large hardware market share, or they would have done it already.
Or, you could convert all those Word docs to Writer and use Ant like this guy did to xsl transform the xml into a website. I discovered this website because I'm starting to write a CMS in PHP5 which automatically adds content from OO.o documents.
Alternately, you could use Writer2Latex to generate XHTML 1.0 strict for yourself.
Those two methods seem the easiest.
And if your thinking
Less then 9 years ago
I'm just entering college
Well, with the two glaring mistakes above, I hope the you are taking English Comp.
I don't mean to be rude, but your post was so badly written that I didn't understand some parts of it, even though I really tried.
Unless you were one of those who bought an Apple IIGS in the early 90's:
I never linked the two ideas. It was simply an additional piece of info stuck at the end. They want to be pro-gamers because it's glamorous right now.
I'm not anti-Confucian, but the original poster seemed to think that it was the answer to the education problem in the west. I wanted to point out that pretty much every Asian education department has been discussing for years how to change the culture of education to encourage children to think, rather than rote-memorize books of information which they don't truly understand.
The Confucian tradition encourages that, you know... The point is that both cultures are stuggling with their own problems in education.
You know, I'm just as disgusted about the state of American education as you are, but you need to stop blaming the western culture for that.
I live in Asia, and I love it, but my teen students in Korea aren't any better at their various subjects than the American teens that I know, despite studying from 9:00am to midnight. Sources in China, Japan, and Thailand tell me that it's no different there, either.
What do my students want to be when they grow up? Doctors? Engineers? No. They want to be pro-gamers. So much for your intilectual society and Confucianism. Asian countries are actively seeking to remove Confucian ideals from their education systems in order to produce students that can actually think for themselves.
While I generally agree with your points, I think that you have left out the results of peer interaction. Home-schooled children tend not only to interact with adults more than their public-school equivalents, but also with other children of varying ages. Traditional schooling teaches children that one or two years is a major difference, and that they shouldn't have friends which differ in age from them.
Is that truly healthy? When children grow up, will a year or two truly matter?
Dealing with other children at significantly different developmental levels helps the home-schooler be more open socially.
Certainly, if the parents use home-schooling as an excuse to shelter their children and remove them from social interaction, the children will grow to be socially-inept adults, but that is not the way that it should be.
More on topic, considering the article submitter's insistence on keeping public school, I believe that we should move to an all self-study, unit-based approach, where the teacher acts more as a guide.
Slashdot on improving education... What a joke. First step is to improve reading comprehension. Apparently, you didn't even read the article summary.
JFC... RTFA or GTFO. KVM setup, not a thin client.
Yeah, well, lots of non-open programs are available for the Linux platform at Zeer and Panthip. You can get just about anything that any company has made for any platform, if you look hard enough.
RHES and SUSE Prof., Win4Lin and Codeweavers are all available for purchase there, last time I looked.
BTW, I know that your post was tongue-in-cheek, I just thought that I would fill it out some.
That quote is BS, at lest in Thailand. Piracy is in the high 9x% (98.5 a few years ago), and Linux is huge there. Heck, my brother-in-law told me that he wants Linux because the Prime Minister uses it and says that Windows is old technology. You can't walk into a subway newsstand without seeing Linux for sale.
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It's my sig, and it's playful. There are many people on this site who write very well, but an interesting fact is that a portion understands clearly the semantics of several scripting languages but not of fourth-grade English.
If it truly offends you, however, I'll change it. Just tell me.
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At about 225 pages per hour, four hours a day for ten years (that's 3,285,000 pages or perhaps 8.2E8 words), I'd think that you would've seen consistently enough times to know how to spell it. I doubt your boasting.
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