>... and I can't see how it would be all that useful on a PDA!
First, make yourself realize what is Linux cause it's easy to understand it only as the incarnations you see most often, like a webserver, or on desktop, or even in a cashier. But then, when you really understand that it is a codebase that you can twist to do about anything, then answer the question: in which purpose it is NOT all that useful. I can not come up with many, maybe - for now - only some cases in which a "really-really" tru real-time extremely-low-latency operating system is needed.
It would be very interesting to know what is the manufacturing cost per unit, when the Zaurus really enters mass production. Did the Linux choice make it significantly cheaper? And what kind of effect did the choice have on development costs. There must be some developers who participated in doing this out there, leak some info, please:))
Personally, I am just waiting for the next generation of Nokia Communicator, it has no bells and whistles, but the concept works, thecurrent generation already, after the bug fixes, does the job rather well, but lacks resources and bandwidth.
I will start a company called Penguin Moon Trips
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...in the beginning of the next century, our spaceship has been already ordered, and hey, now you asked the coolest question: our business plan? Well, we name the company "Penguin" Moon trips, cause you know, it's easy to get published on Slashdot and that sort of places if you just mention that bird, dunno why. We are even planning to send them to moon, as one market trick.
Seriously, come on!?!? It might be news if their business ever gets really started and if using Linux really provides them with some other competitive edge than the one - marketing edge - which was already used.
diddlydummmm...let's just wait a liiitlee while...while the connection buiiilds...*Living easy, living free*, what was the password again, ohhh, right *Asking nothing, leave me be*... now let's just get this image rendered... *Going down, party time*...all right, now it's beginning to show *My friends are gonna be there too* , ok, there's congestion, lemme see... right... right BEHIND me! *I'm on the highway to hell...*
Yup, it indeed seems it seems to have good bones, thanks for reminding to check the site again. Although the mail I posted was more about grid computing than P2P in the meaning of gnutella, napster, gnunet - which is mostly file-sharing to me - there still are the same fundamental issues to be solved. So, what I wanted to say is that GNUnet does not implement what I meant, but it could provide a good basis.
actually, this sounds like an excellent idea, and this should without doubt be a basic feature of gdb for example. This also reminds me of my Spectravideo SVI-318 and lousy green, year was 1984, the combination worked at so low frequency that was able to hear and understand what I typed through radio. And it really was very helpful.
Well, if that central signing authority would consists of say 10 people (machines) in the beginning, they could certify others, which would then again share trust points etc. But then, the barrier for occasional users might make it impossible.
That's a good point. Therefore, I think we need somekind of network of trust. A nodes trustability should be validated by others, it would have to get it's key signed by others before talking in public. That's not easy job ofcourse, but working models exist, atleast in other uses, such as simply in PGP. Adhoc P2P is ofcourse much more complicated - how does a node get trust in the first place?
I did. And in this case it means that we do have to have hierarchies to make the system work. However, I have to admit that it was a popularistic statement by me, since you can see such a network as Anarchists' dreamland - a society in which everything is decided based on functional voluntarism. However, this is not completely what I meant in that e-mail, I believe that there has to be some fixed hierarchy in it as well.
Here's a clip from an email I sent sometime ago to someone, it might or might not have something in it, judge yourself.
- the system must reorganise itself automatically based on current
analysis of the nodes available on the network.
- the system must have a dynamic trust model, based on "paranoia".
- the trust model must be utilized in combination of other characteristics
of each peer(node) to select best population of the nodes as more
important servants. Untrusted/neutral nodes are not to be given any
crucial tasks. No-one can do anything crucial alone, confirmation for the
action must be confirmed from other trusted ones.
- All functionality of the network mut be replicable automaticly. Tasks
done by any node must be transferrable transparently.
- Weak nodes will not be given any "community work"
- Every node must pass constant quality criteria to be able to perform any
actions on the actual network.
Just to mention a few points. In short, anarchy does not work - even in
P2P networks. We need a government, but one which is always on move, but
still governs population using strict - but adaptive - rules.:)
Yes, more than one thing at a time, but remember the common design flaws in a distributed system: cumulating lag, reliability of nodes, communicational problems, congestion, diversity. What happens when that specialist every lawyer needs to understand a word, turns out to be a cocaine junkie and hears voices while meanwhile everyone runs into to the companys coffee shop and asks for that something special resulting in a congestion in the sewer network. Ohh now I am beginning to understand, is it that why an average court case takes a few years and costs a dozen millions.
So? You would rather be 80 again, get a new disease, be frozen, be 81, be frozen, and finally you release you are as old as Santa Claus has haven't even grown a decent beard.
If you believe the technology will advance so that any disease can be cured, don't you believe also that they will be able to grow your body again from a DNA sample. Memory, and brains might be a bit more of an task - but saving around 1500 cm^3 and the DNA sample takes much less space anyway. Here's a related article about brain mapping.
> "We believe we have to take a holistic approach to cooling," said Chandrakant Patel,
On first thought, throwing mist over microprocessors, seems more like an alcoholistic idea. Anyone been to a sauna? Does not this create a new problem of increased humidity -and even worse -fluctuating temperature and relative humidity and problems resulting from that...oh, but HP makes the hardware, now they can sell double the stuff in same time, good plan:)
You know, talking to a mobile phone while driving without hands-free is going to be banned in Finland too soon. Maybe I could actually buy two of these, the other could hold the phone, and the other could show the middle finger to the legislators while safely keeping both hands on the wheel.
Why is it the same thing in Europe and USA that government decides whether people want to watch analog or digital TV. If no-one is interested in your stupid DTV then it just is so. If no-one is interested in taking the business risk involved, you loose. If no-one is interested in sending digital broadcasts then accept it. If people really would see the benefit in it, noone would have to force be forced to do it. There's is no valid reason why digital and analog TV could not co-exist for 10 years, for example. During that time also other people than those who sit in every countries Digital TV committee would have time to judge whether there is any point in it for them as individual or not. Well, I quess this is not the first them when some new cool new technology is tried to be pushed to market by force. Mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble....:)
And if you look at the available SDKs only, you will find that they are not OS independant. I think the writer of the./ article mixed up content of two releases, about the SDK, and about the reference platform.
I read the EVALUATION LICENSE, which states for example:
"This Evaluation License does not grant a license to incorporate the FireWire Reference Platform, any portion of it, or any Modification into any board, module, integrated circuit, macrocell, core or other assemble or device. To obtain a license to develop or distribute assemblies incorporating the FireWire Reference Platform or Modifications, visit http://www.developer.applce.com/mkt/swl""
So, it seems that this is strictly for evaluation, or did I miss something?
Bhutan Broadcasting Services' schedule for today
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19:00-19:15 Tonight & The News in Dzongkha
19:15-19:20 Advertisement and announcement
19:20-19:50 Dzongkha Gongphel
19:50-20:00 UK TODAY Sutton Hoo- The London Marathon
20:00-20:10 News in English
20:10-20:15 Advertisement and announcement
20:15-20:30 Telematch
20:30-21:00 Telematch
I am ready to Dzongkha! Whatever it is;)
Could Deep Junior be easily distributed?
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I have not paid any attention to this, but does someone know whether it would be feasible to base a massively distributed chess engine on the Deep Junior basis? When we were thinking about continuation to the RC5-56 chall this was one thing which we considered. Could it be the time now, or is there already a lot of such projects - or maybe there is even already a category for such monsters:)
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> ... and I can't see how it would be all that useful on a PDA!
First, make yourself realize what is Linux cause it's easy to understand it only as the incarnations you see most often, like a webserver, or on desktop, or even in a cashier. But then, when you really understand that it is a codebase that you can twist to do about anything, then answer the question: in which purpose it is NOT all that useful. I can not come up with many, maybe - for now - only some cases in which a "really-really" tru real-time extremely-low-latency operating system is needed.
It would be very interesting to know what is the manufacturing cost per unit, when the Zaurus really enters mass production. Did the Linux choice make it significantly cheaper? And what kind of effect did the choice have on development costs. There must be some developers who participated in doing this out there, leak some info, please :))
Personally, I am just waiting for the next generation of Nokia Communicator, it has no bells and whistles, but the concept works, thecurrent generation already, after the bug fixes, does the job rather well, but lacks resources and bandwidth.
Seriously, come on!?!? It might be news if their business ever gets really started and if using Linux really provides them with some other competitive edge than the one - marketing edge - which was already used.
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diddlydummmm...let's just wait a liiitlee while...while the connection buiiilds...*Living easy, living free*, what was the password again, ohhh, right *Asking nothing, leave me be*... now let's just get this image rendered... *Going down, party time*...all right, now it's beginning to show *My friends are gonna be there too* , ok, there's congestion, lemme see... right... right BEHIND me! *I'm on the highway to hell...*
Yup, it indeed seems it seems to have good bones, thanks for reminding to check the site again. Although the mail I posted was more about grid computing than P2P in the meaning of gnutella, napster, gnunet - which is mostly file-sharing to me - there still are the same fundamental issues to be solved. So, what I wanted to say is that GNUnet does not implement what I meant, but it could provide a good basis.
actually, this sounds like an excellent idea, and this should without doubt be a basic feature of gdb for example. This also reminds me of my Spectravideo SVI-318 and lousy green, year was 1984, the combination worked at so low frequency that was able to hear and understand what I typed through radio. And it really was very helpful.
> Score:1, Unread
:) Thanks, I ordered the book, your link was broken though, here's a working one: Emergence: The Connected Lives of Ants, Brains, Cities, and Software
BleeEEP - wrong
> But then we need a central signing authority
Well, if that central signing authority would consists of say 10 people (machines) in the beginning, they could certify others, which would then again share trust points etc. But then, the barrier for occasional users might make it impossible.
That's a good point. Therefore, I think we need somekind of network of trust. A nodes trustability should be validated by others, it would have to get it's key signed by others before talking in public. That's not easy job ofcourse, but working models exist, atleast in other uses, such as simply in PGP. Adhoc P2P is ofcourse much more complicated - how does a node get trust in the first place?
> Anarchy does not work? Who said this?
I did. And in this case it means that we do have to have hierarchies to make the system work. However, I have to admit that it was a popularistic statement by me, since you can see such a network as Anarchists' dreamland - a society in which everything is decided based on functional voluntarism. However, this is not completely what I meant in that e-mail, I believe that there has to be some fixed hierarchy in it as well.
Here's a clip from an email I sent sometime ago to someone, it might or might not have something in it, judge yourself.
:)
- the system must reorganise itself automatically based on current
analysis of the nodes available on the network. - the system must have a dynamic trust model, based on "paranoia".
- the trust model must be utilized in combination of other characteristics of each peer(node) to select best population of the nodes as more important servants. Untrusted/neutral nodes are not to be given any crucial tasks. No-one can do anything crucial alone, confirmation for the action must be confirmed from other trusted ones. - All functionality of the network mut be replicable automaticly. Tasks done by any node must be transferrable transparently.
- Weak nodes will not be given any "community work"
- Every node must pass constant quality criteria to be able to perform any actions on the actual network.
Just to mention a few points. In short, anarchy does not work - even in P2P networks. We need a government, but one which is always on move, but still governs population using strict - but adaptive - rules.
Yes, more than one thing at a time, but remember the common design flaws in a distributed system: cumulating lag, reliability of nodes, communicational problems, congestion, diversity. What happens when that specialist every lawyer needs to understand a word, turns out to be a cocaine junkie and hears voices while meanwhile everyone runs into to the companys coffee shop and asks for that something special resulting in a congestion in the sewer network. Ohh now I am beginning to understand, is it that why an average court case takes a few years and costs a dozen millions.
> Your still fscking dead
So? You would rather be 80 again, get a new disease, be frozen, be 81, be frozen, and finally you release you are as old as Santa Claus has haven't even grown a decent beard.
If you believe the technology will advance so that any disease can be cured, don't you believe also that they will be able to grow your body again from a DNA sample. Memory, and brains might be a bit more of an task - but saving around 1500 cm^3 and the DNA sample takes much less space anyway. Here's a related article about brain mapping.
> "We believe we have to take a holistic approach to cooling," said Chandrakant Patel,
:)
On first thought, throwing mist over microprocessors, seems more like an alcoholistic idea. Anyone been to a sauna? Does not this create a new problem of increased humidity -and even worse -fluctuating temperature and relative humidity and problems resulting from that...oh, but HP makes the hardware, now they can sell double the stuff in same time, good plan
I dont care whether its IMAX or KLIMAX.
You know, talking to a mobile phone while driving without hands-free is going to be banned in Finland too soon. Maybe I could actually buy two of these, the other could hold the phone, and the other could show the middle finger to the legislators while safely keeping both hands on the wheel.
Why is it the same thing in Europe and USA that government decides whether people want to watch analog or digital TV. If no-one is interested in your stupid DTV then it just is so. If no-one is interested in taking the business risk involved, you loose. If no-one is interested in sending digital broadcasts then accept it. If people really would see the benefit in it, noone would have to force be forced to do it. There's is no valid reason why digital and analog TV could not co-exist for 10 years, for example. During that time also other people than those who sit in every countries Digital TV committee would have time to judge whether there is any point in it for them as individual or not. Well, I quess this is not the first them when some new cool new technology is tried to be pushed to market by force. Mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble.... :)
And if you look at the available SDKs only, you will find that they are not OS independant. I think the writer of the ./ article mixed up content of two releases, about the SDK, and about the reference platform.
I read the EVALUATION LICENSE, which states for example:
"This Evaluation License does not grant a license to incorporate the FireWire Reference Platform, any portion of it, or any Modification into any board, module, integrated circuit, macrocell, core or other assemble or device. To obtain a license to develop or distribute assemblies incorporating the FireWire Reference Platform or Modifications, visit http://www.developer.applce.com/mkt/swl""
So, it seems that this is strictly for evaluation, or did I miss something?
this is hot stuff!:
;)
19:00-19:15 Tonight & The News in Dzongkha
19:15-19:20 Advertisement and announcement
19:20-19:50 Dzongkha Gongphel
19:50-20:00 UK TODAY Sutton Hoo- The London Marathon
20:00-20:10 News in English
20:10-20:15 Advertisement and announcement
20:15-20:30 Telematch
20:30-21:00 Telematch
I am ready to Dzongkha! Whatever it is
I have not paid any attention to this, but does someone know whether it would be feasible to base a massively distributed chess engine on the Deep Junior basis? When we were thinking about continuation to the RC5-56 chall this was one thing which we considered. Could it be the time now, or is there already a lot of such projects - or maybe there is even already a category for such monsters :)
> "That's illegal. It would be like a cup of coffee sitting on your desk getting hotter," Lineweaver says
Placing a coffee cup on top of my laptop and running Microsoft Outlook provides the exactly same effect. Where can I get my Nobel prize?