It is if the person you are accusing of being "just like Bush" is the most independent minded Republican Senator (at least among those with some real pull in the Senate).
How is voting with President Bush more than 90% of the time(McCain's own words) being the most independent minded?
Don't forget, McCain has cancer. Based on the cancer he has and the amount of lymph nodes he had removed, he has about a 1 in 3 chance of surviving 5 more years.
There is no way you can live your daily life without belief. When you get into a car or a plane, you BELIEVE that they will take you where you want to go.
You have just committed a fallacy of equivocation. This is a very common fallacy committed by religionists who try very hard to make their sloppy thinking seem more reasonable.
Would you be so kind as to point out why no one should vote for McCain?
Sure. Because the policies of the last 8 years created a huge mess. We now have a debt of over 10 trillion dollars, that's double what it was in 2000. McCain is not diverging from the failed policies of Bush.
I don't know about you, but I think rewarding failure is a really bad idea. The republicans have failed miserably. The current situation is what happens when you let them run the government.
Unfortunately, what you have done in the above post is not any different than what I would expect from Obama or McCain. That is, nobody is talking about issues, they are talking about emotions.
This is simply untrue. Obama talks about issues and solutions constantly. If you want details, he has them on his website.
Obama is clearly the smartest and most competent of the two. Not only that, but putting Palin one elderly heartbeat away from the presidency is unfathomably stupid. Sorry, it just is.
We'd wear it out using it on barking moonbat liberals like you.
This is really funny. I'm a cold war veteran and gun owner. I support the death penalty and I oppose most recycling and I've voted for John Warner. Oh yeah and I also support nuclear energy.
If you can't see past the team mentality you will forever remain cartoonish in your political views. You will continue to choose a position first and then rationalize your choice like most people do. Rational, thoughtful, mature people evaluate and analyze in order to come to a position.
But the republicans don't try to knock off bad registrations, that's the post hoc rationalization. It is well documented that the republicans actively try to, and often succeed, in knocking off real voters. There is also voter intimidation and situations like Ohio where they actually change votes.
If absentee ballots are being sent to bogus people and addresses then where do they end up? Usually in the trash. There is no evidence that there is any kind of coordinated effort to utilize these bogus registrations. All evidence points to people gaming the system for personal profit.
Again, the McCain campaign has tried TWICE to knock me off the rolls and there is no valid reason for them to attempt it. It's simple malfeasance.
Fortunately this time it seems that Obama has such a good lead that it won't matter what kind of voter suppression techniques the republicans use, they will not be able to stem the tide.
AC, you should be thankful that McCain is not going to make it to the whitehouse. Seriously anyone who is still backing McCain can only fit into several categories.
1. Uninformed
2. Racist
3. Super Rich and incredibly selfish
4. Crazy
5. Stupid
Or any combination of the above. Even Bill Kristol and Christopher Hitchens admit that McCain is a pathetic loser.
Yes. Although, both parties have put some crazies on. In fact, I was extremely disappointed in Bush for not elevating Thomas to chief and adding another "regular" justice. Who says the new guy has to be in charge?
There really should be a -2 batshit crazy mod point available.
Actually ACORN wasn't faking votes. ACORN is the victim of fraud by unscrupulous people who were filling out bogus forms because they were getting paid to get people to register.
Having bogus registrations is mainly benign. They are unlikely to be used for several reasons. One is that you have to remember the name you used, second is that(in many municipalities) you have to demonstrate that you are indeed that person. Third, the payoff for the bogus registrations is money for making them, not for using them to vote.
This kind of activity is more annoying than detrimental. In other words it has no measurable effect on the outcome.
This is not the case with voter suppression, which the republicans embrace whole heartedly. The McCain Campaign has tried twice(that I know of) this election to bump me off the rolls. Sometimes their means are legal even if highly immoral and unethical. Sometimes their means are illegal.
What does it say about a party that spends huge amounts of time and money trying to prevent people from voting?
How did you lose your lifetime sub? I've had mine since 99. Still going strong. In fact I'd love to find a way to do hardware emulation some day so I can keep going.
My neighbor got one of these too. The McCain campaign sent me an absentee voter registration card(two actually) addressed to the wrong voting clerk, for some reason my neighbor had the correct information on his. I'm sure we came up on some databases that list who we've given money to.
What does it say about a party that spends money and a great deal of effort to attempt to prevent people from exercising their fundamental right to vote? I think the next most important right after voting is freedom itself.
"Executive experience" is such a bullshit line. I'd say running a national campaign and getting over 60 million dollars in a year is a lot more "executive" experience than most executives experience.
Yeah it's going to be real hard to switch from trying to determine how to persuade someone to do what you want them to do, to just telling them. I see it's just been a horrible transition thus far.
Keep in mind that the owner of a coffee shop has "executive experience", is that really what counts?
No one asked Joe Biden if he was a bad father when he took office 30 years ago, a widower with two boys that depended on him.
No one had to. He decided not to take his position because of his boys but he was talked into it by the democratic leadership. They even swore him in in his sons' hospital room because he wouldn't leave their side.
Of course you're also assuming two boys is equivalent to 4 kids plus one retarded kid and that the vice presidency is equivalent to a senate position.
Biden didn't uproot his kids in order to be a Senator. He took the train home every night to be with them.
Ask Palin all of the pertinent questions you want, but be honest, much of the crap being slung at her isn't about questions of fitness for office or policy, but tabloid crap like "so, did your daughter really give birth to Trig the retardo boy?".
OK, I'll bite. Who asked that question of her? In fact when has she answered any questions other than one super soft interview by Sean Hannity and another very controlled interview by Charlie Rose? I've yet to see her on any Sunday morning political show, yet everyone else seems to make them.
On a different note,
I notice that even though her claim to have stopped the bridge to nowhere has been thoroughly debunked, it does not deter the McCain campaign from retelling that lie over and over.
Many people have decided that, yes, it is rude to criticize Palin for the actions of her daughter, or to question the parents of her youngest child.
Many people are stupid. Sarah Palin and her husband *are* the parents of her youngest child. Of course we should question her.
Not only that but I think a frank discussion of her position on the efficacy of abstinence only sex education is warranted(this is the issue you were dancing around), especially when she is faced with the facts of her own pre marital pregnancy as well as her daughter's. If she is still going to try the same old failed policy of abstinence only sex education in the face of facts that it doesn't work then she's not fit to hold the position.
Actually, according to the president Americans ARE more productive. The problem, however, is that "more productive" is republican code for working longer hours for less pay.
More often people who are very well off are there not because they work hard but because they got really lucky.
Not everyone has the ability coupled with luck to translate hard work into higher tax brackets. This is the reality of life. As an ostensibly civilized human being you need to decide how you treat these people who through no fault of their own, will not have huge sums of cash. The republican mindset is to fuck them hard, in the ass, with no lube.
Isn't that all total bullshit without factoring in long-term effects of presidential policies that seem to take effect when the other party gets into power?
So you want to give Jimmy Carter credit for prosperity in the 80's?
The last two presidential elections were given to Bush because of fraud. This is a fact. It's only natural to think that the third time around it would be fraud again. This becomes even more difficult to ignore when the republican candidate has voted over 90% with Bush, the most hated and incompetent president ever.
if you subscribe to the Bush doctrine on torture (as McCain now does), then McCain himself was never "tortured" at the Hanoi Hilton and the anti-American statements he made to his captors are, in fact, truthful and accurate intelligence.
I hear crickets from the Dems with respect to Rep William Jefferson (of New Orleans) and the $100K found in his freezer, etc...
If William Jefferson is found guilty I can assure you he won't be viewed as a hero and given a radio show like republicans do with their felons. He will be ex-communicated.
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How is voting with President Bush more than 90% of the time(McCain's own words) being the most independent minded?
The media doesn't seem to be tired of republicans, the media is mostly conservative. The so called liberal media bias is a lie.
He has a doctorate from Harvard law school, graduated suma cum laude. AND he was president of the Harvard Law review. He worked his way to the top.
So which would you choose, someone who graduated top of the class with a doctorate or someone from the bottom of his class?
Don't forget, McCain has cancer. Based on the cancer he has and the amount of lymph nodes he had removed, he has about a 1 in 3 chance of surviving 5 more years.
The first hit is always free.
You have just committed a fallacy of equivocation. This is a very common fallacy committed by religionists who try very hard to make their sloppy thinking seem more reasonable.
Sure. Because the policies of the last 8 years created a huge mess. We now have a debt of over 10 trillion dollars, that's double what it was in 2000. McCain is not diverging from the failed policies of Bush.
I don't know about you, but I think rewarding failure is a really bad idea. The republicans have failed miserably. The current situation is what happens when you let them run the government.
This is simply untrue. Obama talks about issues and solutions constantly. If you want details, he has them on his website.
Obama is clearly the smartest and most competent of the two. Not only that, but putting Palin one elderly heartbeat away from the presidency is unfathomably stupid. Sorry, it just is.
This is really funny. I'm a cold war veteran and gun owner. I support the death penalty and I oppose most recycling and I've voted for John Warner. Oh yeah and I also support nuclear energy.
If you can't see past the team mentality you will forever remain cartoonish in your political views. You will continue to choose a position first and then rationalize your choice like most people do. Rational, thoughtful, mature people evaluate and analyze in order to come to a position.
But the republicans don't try to knock off bad registrations, that's the post hoc rationalization. It is well documented that the republicans actively try to, and often succeed, in knocking off real voters. There is also voter intimidation and situations like Ohio where they actually change votes.
If absentee ballots are being sent to bogus people and addresses then where do they end up? Usually in the trash. There is no evidence that there is any kind of coordinated effort to utilize these bogus registrations. All evidence points to people gaming the system for personal profit.
Again, the McCain campaign has tried TWICE to knock me off the rolls and there is no valid reason for them to attempt it. It's simple malfeasance.
Fortunately this time it seems that Obama has such a good lead that it won't matter what kind of voter suppression techniques the republicans use, they will not be able to stem the tide.
AC, you should be thankful that McCain is not going to make it to the whitehouse. Seriously anyone who is still backing McCain can only fit into several categories.
1. Uninformed
2. Racist
3. Super Rich and incredibly selfish
4. Crazy
5. Stupid
Or any combination of the above. Even Bill Kristol and Christopher Hitchens admit that McCain is a pathetic loser.
There really should be a -2 batshit crazy mod point available.
Actually ACORN wasn't faking votes. ACORN is the victim of fraud by unscrupulous people who were filling out bogus forms because they were getting paid to get people to register.
Having bogus registrations is mainly benign. They are unlikely to be used for several reasons. One is that you have to remember the name you used, second is that(in many municipalities) you have to demonstrate that you are indeed that person. Third, the payoff for the bogus registrations is money for making them, not for using them to vote.
This kind of activity is more annoying than detrimental. In other words it has no measurable effect on the outcome.
This is not the case with voter suppression, which the republicans embrace whole heartedly. The McCain Campaign has tried twice(that I know of) this election to bump me off the rolls. Sometimes their means are legal even if highly immoral and unethical. Sometimes their means are illegal.
What does it say about a party that spends huge amounts of time and money trying to prevent people from voting?
How did you lose your lifetime sub? I've had mine since 99. Still going strong. In fact I'd love to find a way to do hardware emulation some day so I can keep going.
My neighbor got one of these too. The McCain campaign sent me an absentee voter registration card(two actually) addressed to the wrong voting clerk, for some reason my neighbor had the correct information on his. I'm sure we came up on some databases that list who we've given money to.
What does it say about a party that spends money and a great deal of effort to attempt to prevent people from exercising their fundamental right to vote? I think the next most important right after voting is freedom itself.
Do you think homeless people should not be allowed to vote? If so, why?
That and he would have done something about the memo titled, "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.". So 9/11 likely would not have happened.
Ties to terrorists? You mean like the Bush family ties to the Bin Laden family?
"Executive experience" is such a bullshit line. I'd say running a national campaign and getting over 60 million dollars in a year is a lot more "executive" experience than most executives experience.
Yeah it's going to be real hard to switch from trying to determine how to persuade someone to do what you want them to do, to just telling them. I see it's just been a horrible transition thus far.
Keep in mind that the owner of a coffee shop has "executive experience", is that really what counts?
Moron.
No one asked Joe Biden if he was a bad father when he took office 30 years ago, a widower with two boys that depended on him.
No one had to. He decided not to take his position because of his boys but he was talked into it by the democratic leadership. They even swore him in in his sons' hospital room because he wouldn't leave their side.
Of course you're also assuming two boys is equivalent to 4 kids plus one retarded kid and that the vice presidency is equivalent to a senate position.
Biden didn't uproot his kids in order to be a Senator. He took the train home every night to be with them.
Ask Palin all of the pertinent questions you want, but be honest, much of the crap being slung at her isn't about questions of fitness for office or policy, but tabloid crap like "so, did your daughter really give birth to Trig the retardo boy?".
OK, I'll bite. Who asked that question of her? In fact when has she answered any questions other than one super soft interview by Sean Hannity and another very controlled interview by Charlie Rose? I've yet to see her on any Sunday morning political show, yet everyone else seems to make them.
On a different note, I notice that even though her claim to have stopped the bridge to nowhere has been thoroughly debunked, it does not deter the McCain campaign from retelling that lie over and over.
Many people have decided that, yes, it is rude to criticize Palin for the actions of her daughter, or to question the parents of her youngest child.
Many people are stupid. Sarah Palin and her husband *are* the parents of her youngest child. Of course we should question her.
Not only that but I think a frank discussion of her position on the efficacy of abstinence only sex education is warranted(this is the issue you were dancing around), especially when she is faced with the facts of her own pre marital pregnancy as well as her daughter's. If she is still going to try the same old failed policy of abstinence only sex education in the face of facts that it doesn't work then she's not fit to hold the position.
Actually, it won't. All our Caucasian presidents will still be white.
Actually, according to the president Americans ARE more productive. The problem, however, is that "more productive" is republican code for working longer hours for less pay.
More often people who are very well off are there not because they work hard but because they got really lucky.
Not everyone has the ability coupled with luck to translate hard work into higher tax brackets. This is the reality of life. As an ostensibly civilized human being you need to decide how you treat these people who through no fault of their own, will not have huge sums of cash. The republican mindset is to fuck them hard, in the ass, with no lube.
Isn't that all total bullshit without factoring in long-term effects of presidential policies that seem to take effect when the other party gets into power?
So you want to give Jimmy Carter credit for prosperity in the 80's?
OK!
all our republican Presidents since the 80s have been GOP, so what difference does it make?
How observant of you. Did you also notice that all our Caucasian presidents have been white?
The last two presidential elections were given to Bush because of fraud. This is a fact. It's only natural to think that the third time around it would be fraud again. This becomes even more difficult to ignore when the republican candidate has voted over 90% with Bush, the most hated and incompetent president ever.
if you subscribe to the Bush doctrine on torture (as McCain now does), then McCain himself was never "tortured" at the Hanoi Hilton and the anti-American statements he made to his captors are, in fact, truthful and accurate intelligence.
from a comment on a story in the Wash Post.
I hear crickets from the Dems with respect to Rep William Jefferson (of New Orleans) and the $100K found in his freezer, etc...
If William Jefferson is found guilty I can assure you he won't be viewed as a hero and given a radio show like republicans do with their felons. He will be ex-communicated.