In some periods, it happens to me that everyday i got to sleep an hour later than the previous one, until one day I find out it's 6 am and i am STILL reading slashdot. That day, i usually either oversleep like hell (21 hours sleep and then days start at 1am and sleeptime starts at 3am) or I undersleep (i don't get sleep and at 9pm i am so tired i go to be). And the thing starts again...
Mind me, it's stable, but i'd better like to slow earth's spin a bit. Can it be down? We need to fix this 24 h./day bug!
he can use $100 bills as toilet tissue for all I care
Interesting. On the other side, I'd prefer he'd use it to actually pay for developing what they sell, harden security, hurry patches dispatchs, suing their legal deparment to secure our rights to free speech.
But i guess they figured out that if they have all this market share with the actual product as is, then there's no point in making them better. People will just buy at whatever price they ask.
Isn't he himself the biggest single shareholder of the company? In that sense, it's his company. I couldn't care less if they donate or if he donates. That money comes from the goverment, you employer, you and your mama.
Now, I'd be nice to notice that it's really your money beign donated and your name is beign replaced with a "Microsoft Good" signature. And not only it really is your money, but it was taken from you by unfair practices (monopoly abuse).
So please cut the crap with this Micrsoft filantropy which IS NOT.
It actually shows that Microsoft cares about interoperability with *nix.
Ok, I won't start this message with the usuall "Are you for real" or the likes. It doesn't work. I'll just point out that there's absolutely NO compatibility effort in the Microsoft side.
All compatibility is provided by the open source community. Say the Samba server, the FAT32, VFAT, NTFS, the Terminal Server clients, and the list is long.
Let's face it, they don't like it. Some people may try to convince you they are you fellows. They have some reason for behaving like that, and it's not for true friendship or for _mutual_ benefit.
Ok, it may be load balanced, but as they have specialiced machines for seraching, indexing, updating the farm. It's a large scale software project. It's not load balancing as i see it. It's not only a question of balancing load, but from separating task into different computers.
It's really like a big library (say the AE* box is one shelf) with many librarians (indexers) and a huge buying personel (spiders) as well as coordination (spider queueing/index queuing/autorepair).
Looks like seti@home, but it's a bit more complex. I'd say it's an application farm.
Not sure. The goverment will have a nice incentive to keep the monopoly alive and kicking. Maybe even force other verdors to license code from Microsoft, so that they can access everything.
It's just a posibility. If you can imagine the FBI saying "Oh, we could gather inteligence directly for Microsoft but, oh wait. The privacy thing! We'll have to find another solution."
Come on, have you switched ISP because of the gov. sniffing?
FUD is not bad. If there's something to be feared upon, and that comes with hughe risks (uncertainty) for the socities and civil liberties, then it's good FUD.
If it's just plain normal FUD to keep market share using huge marketing expenses without any real binding with the truth, then it's bad FUD.
It's not like we are talking Microsoft good, Linux good. We are talking about our RIGHTS here. They are taking them away from us, and RMS has figured it out way before it has happened. Now that it's actually happening, not only you don't recognize it's true but claim RMS predictions where FUD.
Well, to tell you the truth, I think that the reason we still have a lot of rights is because of people like RMS. They are a few, and everybody else gets the benefits. And then magically one they the become "idiots", "zeolots" and other names because we _think_ it's all come to what it'is now for free, and that it will always remain that way.
"The truth, as always, will lie somewhere in the middle."
That's thanks to the RMSs of the world and not because of some "natural balance" law.
"... game makers aren't going to invest the time and money on a product that already burned them once."
Hey wait, they have ALWAYS waited for Microsoft to "get it right this time". They only get it right in the third iteration or so (Office 95, DirectX 6, Windows 98SE, etc, etc.).
Why do I have this feeling that your prediction will miserably fail?
Re: here's the _correct_ 3 step version
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Step 1: Find a big niche, saturate the market at dumping prices, lose lots of money but make sure competitors lose more money than they can afford to lose. Step 2: ?????? Step 3: Profit
Well, we all know it works, and what the ???????? stands for.
Some people just can't realize that if Microsoft can access you computer (DRM enforcing, Windows Update, Whatever), then the Goverment does as well. I cannot think of any reason why Microsoft would fight against goverment access. After all, they are their BEST allies.
What do they have to lose? If it ever gets public they'd say "How, they forced us, to prevent terrorism. There's nothing we can do. It's the price for our societies safety. We are glad we are helping our people win against terror".
We could do a poll about this topic, and see what the crow thinks.
Well, I was thinking of what business think. MS doesn't like GPL because they can't turn it "propietary" that way. Look at apple, is buying lots of companies, and retiring the Windows support for those apps. They wouldn't be able to do that if it was GPL. They cannot restrict people from distributing the original source. What are they buying them? Certainly not the code.
They can only buy the right to use it in a non GPL version while everybody else can use/modify it for free.
So esentially, they can't really buy it to close source it, which is WHAT bothers the "buy & close" (or embrace and extends). That's GPLs point. You can do bussiness, but NOT close what's already been done. And to close what's already been done, you'll probably need like a gazillion authorizations from people all arround the world (all the contributors to the code).
If I am wrong, then I wouldn't like the GPL as I do. What would you need to do/pay/arrange to be able to use the GNU software as a startpoint for a closed source OS?
Re:take this in the spirit it is written in
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The bad part is not the killing stuff. The bad part is the killing without fear, getting killed without suffering. Seen the dead from a distance and not careing.
When you read 40 Afgans got bombed while celebrating a marriage and know nothing WILL happen is when you realize we, as individuals, dont care a shit about anybody else. Unless we are able to talk to them, share experiences with them, get to know them.
It's pretty cheap to go simulating you are a hero killing lad all over the place for NO reason. You don't knw them, we don't care, they don't exist.
Well, It affects people. Probably the ones playing Quake (ME INCLUDED) are by no means more agressive. We are the same exact cowards as before. But we now care less about other people's lives. They re like a sprite on TV, a film or whatever.
If you actually happen to withness a masacre you'll only then know Doom (or whatever the like) is just not that much funny. The killing nonsense I mean (not the team play or abilities, which are good stuff).
Anyway, this is just a thought. I play Doom (llxdoom -opengl actually) sometimes, but I regularly try to remind me it's not so COOL, but ADDICTIVE. It's a great game, but cheap for the mind.
with John. He was asked "Hey, you guy are incredibly talented. Why don't you use it for more seriuos purposes".
The answer was that they made games because nobody will die if they make a bug or if something does not work.
How things turned out. Ok, this guy that commited suicide was ill, but if it's true, they did end up killing people indirectly (not that they really killed anyone, but in the sense that you can't know what would have happened if they haven't programmed Doom).
Anyone remembers that interview? (it's been a long time since then!)
Do you think Id has been making Linux ports and supporting OpenGL just to get some extra bucks (if they ever managed to cover the porting costs).
I'm not trolling really. I just happen to think he has a nice attitude towards open standard, always had, is unbiased in comparing card, etc. and is, all in all a faily good guy.
I believe they do the posts because they don't sell themselves, they like Unix/Linux and that's about it. It's _not_ about the money, I could be on it.
The problem of the GPL is not of missunderstanding. It's "fundamental" aberration. The reason is you can't BUY it, and they can't SELL it to you either.
Name me one thing that cannot be bought...The only way arround GPL is problably buying law. But the results from this law buyouts can be unexpected.
So I agree, yes, don't use it if you don't like it. But it's also a different that everything we've seen in the past. Actually, I think anti-GPL loobies mean it's doing pretty well.
I'm scared. Can they prosecute us whenever we use the pause button? Is it legal to use it? If not, can we at least lower the volume to near zero? What about the mute button?
The other reason for IP protection is to prevent misrepresentation.
Are you for real? Silence predates life on earth. He can quote whatever he likes in the album, inluding Cage. He is not claming Cage did that silence. It's just silence.
Common sense for crist sake. I guess common sense is, somehow, something which not many people have, despite it beign free and in the public domain...
"If the ratio of costs to purchases drops, business won't consider email a viable form of promotion."
I'd put it this way:
"If the ratio of costs to purchases drops, cost will be revised."
After all, they are trying to measure purchases, not click through. You can harm the clickthrough as a measure of purchases. But you are not making spam any less viable. They will only need another measurement of purchases or revised price per click.
They pay for the media?? WHAT? I am the one paying. Each spam email is costing me about 2 seconds to delete, network bandwidth, time waiting for email to download.
They are not paying shit, they are abusing a free service: sending emails. If sending snail was FREE you'd have 2000 tons of paper to ditch every morning. Would you like that?
They should pay per email sent. Any company profiting from sending unsolicited email should pay a price. Just pass a law saying they have to contribute 10c to the "".
Then it'll be more even. Because everytime you receive spam you'd at least have the oportunity to think "ha, the poor bastart is now being chased by the IRS..."
They will revise the price down after they notice and that's it: some people will still buy the stuff they advertize.
End result? They'll get even more exposure for free and their revenue mdel will still work.
They NEED to be charged per email sent. How much? Just in the amount of the expected revenue from the spam + 1 dollar. Only that will stop spam alltogether...
I'm willing to PAY for just sending emails. Maybe the charges will have to be invested in child famine or cancer cure research. I don't want people profiting from hard earned money that I have to spent to block spam...
Re:Did anybody actually READ the article?
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The first half the article praises Linux for being a low cost server solution that a LOT of companies are using.
Well, that's actually FUD. I don't use Linux because it's cheap. I use it because it's stable, secure and fast.
They want people to believe that if you are a poor bastard out of luck, then you at least have Linux. When life turns good, you can always buy the most advanced and thus higher price defacto standard.
Bottom line: saying something is cheap is something that huts linux in the corporate market. Red Hat, etc. come to the rescue, but I think people should be told it's free ONLY AFTER they're told it's better in many ways.
the title is seen even if you read the article
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Well, the "title" has about 5000% more hits than the article itself. And actually, the people that read the entire article, the number would go up to 20000% or more.
So it makes sense. A title is 90% of an artice in terms of public impact. I am positive about this conclusion which you may argue. But I think some will agree.
Yes, but that's a developers perspective. I can't help but wonder how usefull is beign able to run an app anywhere, if nobody is willing to run them in the first place.
Java widgets? Cool, they are needed and usefull. Native Widget are not needed to run an app, but people don't _want_ to run odd looking apps.
Anyway, was just a though. Though I like Java, it's lacking scope provided a strong reason for.Net's appearance and future success.
Java has always had an important problem: it's ugly and doesn't (visually) interates with anything. Most java app are slow (or maybe the code? i'm am talking about Limewire, Phex, etc.) but i can live with that. But a client is supposed to look nice?
Why didn't SUN though about providing native widgets? For the server side you don't need them, but if they wanted to hit Microsoft in the heart, they should have though of many a java app look as nice as any other app in windows (or linux, say gtk or qt).
I guess they'll never understand the desktop market. If it doesn't look nice, it's perceived as BAD.
I'm not only talking for myself, but for what I hear from people trying java stuff.
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In some periods, it happens to me that everyday i got to sleep an hour later than the previous one, until one day I find out it's 6 am and i am STILL reading slashdot. That day, i usually either oversleep like hell (21 hours sleep and then days start at 1am and sleeptime starts at 3am) or I undersleep (i don't get sleep and at 9pm i am so tired i go to be). And the thing starts again...
Mind me, it's stable, but i'd better like to slow earth's spin a bit. Can it be down? We need to fix this 24 h./day bug!
he can use $100 bills as toilet tissue for all I care
Interesting. On the other side, I'd prefer he'd use it to actually pay for developing what they sell, harden security, hurry patches dispatchs, suing their legal deparment to secure our rights to free speech.
But i guess they figured out that if they have all this market share with the actual product as is, then there's no point in making them better. People will just buy at whatever price they ask.
Isn't he himself the biggest single shareholder of the company? In that sense, it's his company. I couldn't care less if they donate or if he donates. That money comes from the goverment, you employer, you and your mama.
Now, I'd be nice to notice that it's really your money beign donated and your name is beign replaced with a "Microsoft Good" signature. And not only it really is your money, but it was taken from you by unfair practices (monopoly abuse).
So please cut the crap with this Micrsoft filantropy which IS NOT.
It actually shows that Microsoft cares about interoperability with *nix.
Ok, I won't start this message with the usuall "Are you for real" or the likes. It doesn't work. I'll just point out that there's absolutely NO compatibility effort in the Microsoft side.
All compatibility is provided by the open source community. Say the Samba server, the FAT32, VFAT, NTFS, the Terminal Server clients, and the list is long.
Let's face it, they don't like it. Some people may try to convince you they are you fellows. They have some reason for behaving like that, and it's not for true friendship or for _mutual_ benefit.
Ok, it may be load balanced, but as they have specialiced machines for seraching, indexing, updating the farm. It's a large scale software project. It's not load balancing as i see it. It's not only a question of balancing load, but from separating task into different computers.
It's really like a big library (say the AE* box is one shelf) with many librarians (indexers) and a huge buying personel (spiders) as well as coordination (spider queueing/index queuing/autorepair).
Looks like seti@home, but it's a bit more complex. I'd say it's an application farm.
Not sure. The goverment will have a nice incentive to keep the monopoly alive and kicking. Maybe even force other verdors to license code from Microsoft, so that they can access everything.
It's just a posibility. If you can imagine the FBI saying "Oh, we could gather inteligence directly for Microsoft but, oh wait. The privacy thing! We'll have to find another solution."
Come on, have you switched ISP because of the gov. sniffing?
fferreres@fede:~$ head /etc/passwd
0 00::/home/root:/bin/bashm e/bin:m :x:1003:1004:adm:/home/var/log:p :/home/var/spool/lpd:e /sbin:/home/bin/sync
/etc/passwd /etc/passwd
/etc/shadow
/home/mp3/maddona.mp3
palladium:x:0:0::/root:/bin/bash
root:x:1000:1
bin:x:1001:1001:bin:/ho
daemon:x:1002:1002:daemon:/home/sbin:
ad
lp:x:1004:1007:l
sync:x:1005:1000:sync:/hom
fferreres@fede:~$ ls -al
-rw-r--r-- 1 palladium palladium 746 Apr 6 17:59
fferreres@fede:~$ su -
root@fede:~# less
/etc/shadow: Permission denied
root@fede:~# shutdown -h now
shutdown: must be palladium.
root@fede:~# mpg123
/home/mp3/maddona.mp3 : Permission denied. Autodelete triggered....Done.
FUD is not bad. If there's something to be feared upon, and that comes with hughe risks (uncertainty) for the socities and civil liberties, then it's good FUD.
If it's just plain normal FUD to keep market share using huge marketing expenses without any real binding with the truth, then it's bad FUD.
It's not like we are talking Microsoft good, Linux good. We are talking about our RIGHTS here. They are taking them away from us, and RMS has figured it out way before it has happened. Now that it's actually happening, not only you don't recognize it's true but claim RMS predictions where FUD.
Well, to tell you the truth, I think that the reason we still have a lot of rights is because of people like RMS. They are a few, and everybody else gets the benefits. And then magically one they the become "idiots", "zeolots" and other names because we _think_ it's all come to what it'is now for free, and that it will always remain that way.
"The truth, as always, will lie somewhere in the middle."
That's thanks to the RMSs of the world and not because of some "natural balance" law.
"... game makers aren't going to invest the time and money on a product that already burned them once."
Hey wait, they have ALWAYS waited for Microsoft to "get it right this time". They only get it right in the third iteration or so (Office 95, DirectX 6, Windows 98SE, etc, etc.).
Why do I have this feeling that your prediction will miserably fail?
Step 1: Find a big niche, saturate the market at dumping prices, lose lots of money but make sure competitors lose more money than they can afford to lose.
Step 2: ??????
Step 3: Profit
Well, we all know it works, and what the ???????? stands for.
Some people just can't realize that if Microsoft can access you computer (DRM enforcing, Windows Update, Whatever), then the Goverment does as well. I cannot think of any reason why Microsoft would fight against goverment access. After all, they are their BEST allies.
What do they have to lose? If it ever gets public they'd say "How, they forced us, to prevent terrorism. There's nothing we can do. It's the price for our societies safety. We are glad we are helping our people win against terror".
We could do a poll about this topic, and see what the crow thinks.
Well, I was thinking of what business think. MS doesn't like GPL because they can't turn it "propietary" that way. Look at apple, is buying lots of companies, and retiring the Windows support for those apps. They wouldn't be able to do that if it was GPL. They cannot restrict people from distributing the original source. What are they buying them? Certainly not the code.
They can only buy the right to use it in a non GPL version while everybody else can use/modify it for free.
So esentially, they can't really buy it to close source it, which is WHAT bothers the "buy & close" (or embrace and extends). That's GPLs point. You can do bussiness, but NOT close what's already been done. And to close what's already been done, you'll probably need like a gazillion authorizations from people all arround the world (all the contributors to the code).
If I am wrong, then I wouldn't like the GPL as I do. What would you need to do/pay/arrange to be able to use the GNU software as a startpoint for a closed source OS?
The bad part is not the killing stuff. The bad part is the killing without fear, getting killed without suffering. Seen the dead from a distance and not careing.
When you read 40 Afgans got bombed while celebrating a marriage and know nothing WILL happen is when you realize we, as individuals, dont care a shit about anybody else. Unless we are able to talk to them, share experiences with them, get to know them.
It's pretty cheap to go simulating you are a hero killing lad all over the place for NO reason. You don't knw them, we don't care, they don't exist.
Well, It affects people. Probably the ones playing Quake (ME INCLUDED) are by no means more agressive. We are the same exact cowards as before. But we now care less about other people's lives. They re like a sprite on TV, a film or whatever.
If you actually happen to withness a masacre you'll only then know Doom (or whatever the like) is just not that much funny. The killing nonsense I mean (not the team play or abilities, which are good stuff).
Anyway, this is just a thought. I play Doom (llxdoom -opengl actually) sometimes, but I regularly try to remind me it's not so COOL, but ADDICTIVE. It's a great game, but cheap for the mind.
sig.: I never post cowardly anymore
with John. He was asked "Hey, you guy are incredibly talented. Why don't you use it for more seriuos purposes".
The answer was that they made games because nobody will die if they make a bug or if something does not work.
How things turned out. Ok, this guy that commited suicide was ill, but if it's true, they did end up killing people indirectly (not that they really killed anyone, but in the sense that you can't know what would have happened if they haven't programmed Doom).
Anyone remembers that interview? (it's been a long time since then!)
Do you think Id has been making Linux ports and supporting OpenGL just to get some extra bucks (if they ever managed to cover the porting costs).
I'm not trolling really. I just happen to think he has a nice attitude towards open standard, always had, is unbiased in comparing card, etc. and is, all in all a faily good guy.
I believe they do the posts because they don't sell themselves, they like Unix/Linux and that's about it. It's _not_ about the money, I could be on it.
The problem of the GPL is not of missunderstanding. It's "fundamental" aberration. The reason is you can't BUY it, and they can't SELL it to you either.
Name me one thing that cannot be bought...The only way arround GPL is problably buying law. But the results from this law buyouts can be unexpected.
So I agree, yes, don't use it if you don't like it. But it's also a different that everything we've seen in the past. Actually, I think anti-GPL loobies mean it's doing pretty well.
I'm scared. Can they prosecute us whenever we use the pause button? Is it legal to use it? If not, can we at least lower the volume to near zero? What about the mute button?
The other reason for IP protection is to prevent misrepresentation.
Are you for real? Silence predates life on earth. He can quote whatever he likes in the album, inluding Cage. He is not claming Cage did that silence. It's just silence.
Common sense for crist sake. I guess common sense is, somehow, something which not many people have, despite it beign free and in the public domain...
"If the ratio of costs to purchases drops, business won't consider email a viable form of promotion."
I'd put it this way:
"If the ratio of costs to purchases drops, cost will be revised."
After all, they are trying to measure purchases, not click through. You can harm the clickthrough as a measure of purchases. But you are not making spam any less viable. They will only need another measurement of purchases or revised price per click.
They pay for the media?? WHAT? I am the one paying. Each spam email is costing me about 2 seconds to delete, network bandwidth, time waiting for email to download.
They are not paying shit, they are abusing a free service: sending emails. If sending snail was FREE you'd have 2000 tons of paper to ditch every morning. Would you like that?
They should pay per email sent. Any company profiting from sending unsolicited email should pay a price. Just pass a law saying they have to contribute 10c to the "".
Then it'll be more even. Because everytime you receive spam you'd at least have the oportunity to think "ha, the poor bastart is now being chased by the IRS..."
Snif
They will revise the price down after they notice and that's it: some people will still buy the stuff they advertize.
End result? They'll get even more exposure for free and their revenue mdel will still work.
They NEED to be charged per email sent. How much? Just in the amount of the expected revenue from the spam + 1 dollar. Only that will stop spam alltogether...
I'm willing to PAY for just sending emails. Maybe the charges will have to be invested in child famine or cancer cure research. I don't want people profiting from hard earned money that I have to spent to block spam...
The first half the article praises Linux for being a low cost server solution that a LOT of companies are using.
Well, that's actually FUD. I don't use Linux because it's cheap. I use it because it's stable, secure and fast.
They want people to believe that if you are a poor bastard out of luck, then you at least have Linux. When life turns good, you can always buy the most advanced and thus higher price defacto standard.
Bottom line: saying something is cheap is something that huts linux in the corporate market. Red Hat, etc. come to the rescue, but I think people should be told it's free ONLY AFTER they're told it's better in many ways.
Well, the "title" has about 5000% more hits than the article itself. And actually, the people that read the entire article, the number would go up to 20000% or more.
So it makes sense. A title is 90% of an artice in terms of public impact. I am positive about this conclusion which you may argue. But I think some will agree.
Yes, but that's a developers perspective. I can't help but wonder how usefull is beign able to run an app anywhere, if nobody is willing to run them in the first place.
.Net's appearance and future success.
Java widgets? Cool, they are needed and usefull. Native Widget are not needed to run an app, but people don't _want_ to run odd looking apps.
Anyway, was just a though. Though I like Java, it's lacking scope provided a strong reason for
Java has always had an important problem: it's ugly and doesn't (visually) interates with anything. Most java app are slow (or maybe the code? i'm am talking about Limewire, Phex, etc.) but i can live with that. But a client is supposed to look nice?
Why didn't SUN though about providing native widgets? For the server side you don't need them, but if they wanted to hit Microsoft in the heart, they should have though of many a java app look as nice as any other app in windows (or linux, say gtk or qt).
I guess they'll never understand the desktop market. If it doesn't look nice, it's perceived as BAD.
I'm not only talking for myself, but for what I hear from people trying java stuff.