But why punish more people then? So if you didn't happen to get bombed by an extremist, you also get an opportunity to be arrested for having encryption too?
I'm not sure how it is a net positive for people. Is it better to catch a criminal and send 5 other people to jail or to have all 6 of them out of jail?
If you are part of a terrorist cell (or a criminal gang) and the police obtain your encryption keys, telling the rest of your cell or gang will enable them to destroy their own compromised data before PC Plod arrives. That is the logic behind the law.
The alternative is to lock up everybody who has supplied keys until any legal case is over, so they cannot communicate the news.
Uh, no? What would make you think there is only one alternative? I mean why even have an open society if you are going to use excuses any time you want to do anything? If you have an open society, people might steal from each other, so we have to be tyrants (that's the alternative right?).
I can't wait until you guys shoot and kill another guy stepping onto the subway. That was a wonderful illustration to these kinds of excuses.
As it stands, Blackberry is doing the evil thing where all Blackberries of all carriers pass through their servers
When i was a suffering Sys Admin, i hated them with a passion, because I had to allow spoofed email from their servers. When the CEO would send email from his bb to other employees it would come from BB's SMTP server as a person in our domain. I accepted spoofed email from only a very small IP address range, but it still pissed me off.
Why can't you send email directly from our own email server?
And no, i wasn't willing to pay outrageous costs for the stupid BB Enterprise server. There is no reason why BB's can send directly to the mail server of their choice.
BB would need to add 50% more advantages to the things i need over a competing mobile device for me to ever consider using them.
So if you are trying to pen test some machines you own and Comcast points you to their server who is to blame? Are you really responsible if Comcast hijacks your DNS requests and sends you to their server?
I was testing against a known invalid DNS entry (ie: personally owned but not parked domain name). How are you responsible when they hijack your connection?
Even better is when someone pwns Comcast's server and and exploits all of Comcast's customers with a browser exploit hosted there.
Kinda like how no college has EVER felt entitled to any of the patents its grad students were granted based on research while there? Colleges never get any share of inventions by their students....
You are completely wrong. They aren't responsible for making the binary available for anyone, just the source. They have the source on their website and you can download it from them.
If you get the source you can modify and redistribute all you want. Just because you don't personally have the means to distribute doesn't mean people are not allowed to distribute it.
Are you talking about loading the app on the iphone or distributing the app? You can distribute the binary, if you have it, to anyone you like. You can download the source and distribute that to anyone you like.
How exactly is apple stopping you from distributing? You mean you can't hand out CDs with the app on to people? Apple stops you?
Wow that site reads like a corporate lobbyist wrote it. And look who sponsored it the head of the anti-science trolls, the founder of junkscience.org: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Milloy Funded by Big Tobacco, Exxon, 3M, and others.
No. The laws are stated that I am not allowed to sell milk labeled that it came from cows not injected with BST. That's crazy. If some people want to pay twice as much for non-BST milk, why should gov't get in the way? They aren't lying in the labeling. It's like saying, i'm not allowed to sell milk that says, "milk came from cows milked only by hot Swedish 18 year-old women."
There is way too much Montsano involvement here to not think they are trying to cover something up.
The page also states that there is a correlation between IGF-1 (in plasma) and prostate cancer. The source was conveniently not included in the plagiarized copy.
I fully support letting the market decide. Let the people choose the items they are willing to purchase. Just don't mislabel things.
Well, i'm glad that crmarvin42 on the internet told me to stay away from "Organic" grown food even if the peer-reviewed journal published study never mentioned anything about it.
How much IGF-1 is in Organic milk vs milk from cows injected with BST? And why would they try to pass laws not allowing you to sell milk that was labeled as rBST-free? In light of the lack of long term studies, people are allowed to be concerned how there food is "created."
Yup, and you can do a scan to determine if I am awake or asleep, or whether I am thinking or not. This does not, however, indicate it is some type of genetic disorder or environmental variable causing this.
How is this +4? The qEEG can be used as a tool to diagnose ADD. How is that a negative thing?
If we can cut down on over-prescription of ADD medication isn't this a good thing, regardless of not being able to figure out if it is a genetic disorder or environmentally caused?
I'm not sure how the fact that environmental issues such as child rearing can lead to higher chances of ADD symptoms becoming expressed has anything to do with the validity of ADD.
So when you mistype an IP address and SSH to the wrong machine you should be locked up for 10 years? You have attempted to gain access to a system where you are not authorized. Don't pull that crap that it was an accident. Don't to the crime if you can't do the time.
I addressed which one is worse for the environment (Organic), and why (More pesticides, more diesel fuel, lower yields/acre). If you don't agree, or think my information is faulty then say so, but ignoring the bulk of my comments and then claiming I missed the point is disingenuous at the very least.
Well, at least you are asserting these things since the study decided those things to be worthless (which was my point that you are still missing).
I ignored the bulk of your comments because i don't really care. I would care if they had done the study and said X is worse than Y or Y is worse than X because of things i care about (ie: not nutritional value). It's like comparing AMD and Intel and then saying that they are about the same because both of their microchips are the same shade of black (i don't even know if they are black but it doesn't matter)
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But why punish more people then? So if you didn't happen to get bombed by an extremist, you also get an opportunity to be arrested for having encryption too?
I'm not sure how it is a net positive for people. Is it better to catch a criminal and send 5 other people to jail or to have all 6 of them out of jail?
Uh, no? What would make you think there is only one alternative? I mean why even have an open society if you are going to use excuses any time you want to do anything? If you have an open society, people might steal from each other, so we have to be tyrants (that's the alternative right?).
I can't wait until you guys shoot and kill another guy stepping onto the subway. That was a wonderful illustration to these kinds of excuses.
Let's start referring to games as Edges. Pass the edge please (along with Kleenex, Frisbee, and legos). Use it generically and it is gone.
When i was a suffering Sys Admin, i hated them with a passion, because I had to allow spoofed email from their servers. When the CEO would send email from his bb to other employees it would come from BB's SMTP server as a person in our domain. I accepted spoofed email from only a very small IP address range, but it still pissed me off.
Why can't you send email directly from our own email server?
And no, i wasn't willing to pay outrageous costs for the stupid BB Enterprise server. There is no reason why BB's can send directly to the mail server of their choice.
BB would need to add 50% more advantages to the things i need over a competing mobile device for me to ever consider using them.
No kidding.
What is the judge going to do about the second scenario though?
"Even better is when someone pwns Comcast's server and and exploits all of Comcast's customers with a browser exploit hosted there."
So if you are trying to pen test some machines you own and Comcast points you to their server who is to blame? Are you really responsible if Comcast hijacks your DNS requests and sends you to their server?
I was testing against a known invalid DNS entry (ie: personally owned but not parked domain name). How are you responsible when they hijack your connection?
Even better is when someone pwns Comcast's server and and exploits all of Comcast's customers with a browser exploit hosted there.
NYC?
Kinda like how no college has EVER felt entitled to any of the patents its grad students were granted based on research while there? Colleges never get any share of inventions by their students....
Just imagine if it only compiled in Visual Studio. There would be a price tag there too.
Indentured servants were slaves if they died before their 20 years of hard labor was up.
You are completely wrong. They aren't responsible for making the binary available for anyone, just the source. They have the source on their website and you can download it from them.
If you get the source you can modify and redistribute all you want. Just because you don't personally have the means to distribute doesn't mean people are not allowed to distribute it.
Are you talking about loading the app on the iphone or distributing the app? You can distribute the binary, if you have it, to anyone you like. You can download the source and distribute that to anyone you like.
How exactly is apple stopping you from distributing? You mean you can't hand out CDs with the app on to people? Apple stops you?
Wow that site reads like a corporate lobbyist wrote it. And look who sponsored it the head of the anti-science trolls, the founder of junkscience.org: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Milloy Funded by Big Tobacco, Exxon, 3M, and others.
No. The laws are stated that I am not allowed to sell milk labeled that it came from cows not injected with BST. That's crazy. If some people want to pay twice as much for non-BST milk, why should gov't get in the way? They aren't lying in the labeling. It's like saying, i'm not allowed to sell milk that says, "milk came from cows milked only by hot Swedish 18 year-old women."
There is way too much Montsano involvement here to not think they are trying to cover something up.
The page also states that there is a correlation between IGF-1 (in plasma) and prostate cancer. The source was conveniently not included in the plagiarized copy.
I fully support letting the market decide. Let the people choose the items they are willing to purchase. Just don't mislabel things.
Well, i'm glad that crmarvin42 on the internet told me to stay away from "Organic" grown food even if the peer-reviewed journal published study never mentioned anything about it.
How much IGF-1 is in Organic milk vs milk from cows injected with BST? And why would they try to pass laws not allowing you to sell milk that was labeled as rBST-free? In light of the lack of long term studies, people are allowed to be concerned how there food is "created."
Hey! Welcome to the ADD club! Although i hate the term because at least what i have is more Executive Function Disorder then a lack of attention.
I can focus so intently (on the wrong things) that i lose track of hours. That is obviously not a deficiency of attention.
I highly recommend the book: Delivered from Distraction (the first on is Driven to Distraction).
Roughly the stats are something like you have a 30% chance of passing ADD on to a child.
Obvious autistics are obvious
Captain Obvious is pretty obvious.
Yup, and you can do a scan to determine if I am awake or asleep, or whether I am thinking or not. This does not, however, indicate it is some type of genetic disorder or environmental variable causing this.
How is this +4? The qEEG can be used as a tool to diagnose ADD. How is that a negative thing?
If we can cut down on over-prescription of ADD medication isn't this a good thing, regardless of not being able to figure out if it is a genetic disorder or environmentally caused?
I'm not sure how the fact that environmental issues such as child rearing can lead to higher chances of ADD symptoms becoming expressed has anything to do with the validity of ADD.
So when you mistype an IP address and SSH to the wrong machine you should be locked up for 10 years? You have attempted to gain access to a system where you are not authorized. Don't pull that crap that it was an accident. Don't to the crime if you can't do the time.
I think the everyone missed the irony of you being unable to connect with and empathize with people with Aspergers.
i got your joke.
and qEEG is showing differences in people with ADD.
And just like heart disease. It's called being a pussy. Don't grab at your chest pussy. Suck it up!
(obviously you've never heard of adult ADD which is somehow "just being a kid?")
And then you get "accidentally" shot because a police officer thought you were a terrorist and he thought you were reaching for a gun.
I'm not against what you are saying, but i'm just saying don't underestimate the stupidity of the police.
How do you know it was fraudulently paid?
They made that decision when they bought shitty meters.
I addressed which one is worse for the environment (Organic), and why (More pesticides, more diesel fuel, lower yields/acre). If you don't agree, or think my information is faulty then say so, but ignoring the bulk of my comments and then claiming I missed the point is disingenuous at the very least.
Well, at least you are asserting these things since the study decided those things to be worthless (which was my point that you are still missing).
I ignored the bulk of your comments because i don't really care. I would care if they had done the study and said X is worse than Y or Y is worse than X because of things i care about (ie: not nutritional value). It's like comparing AMD and Intel and then saying that they are about the same because both of their microchips are the same shade of black (i don't even know if they are black but it doesn't matter)