The fundamental difference between Islam and Christianity is that whereas Christianity merely has a few spotty things to say about Jews & certain groups, the Quran regularly tells its followers to fight for god, not "turn the other cheek".
As for Linux on the desktop, the only argument I really have for it now is that I'd rather see anything other than MS on the desktop, and after Microsoft is will and thoroughly crushed, I can retreat into FreeBSD. It has an installer strong enough to keep away the computer-stupid. Already, the clue level in Linux has fallen so far due to the influx of newbies who are ignorant, want to stay that way, and don't want to learn the Unix Way, that I'm contemplating to jumping ship to BSD this year anyway.
What kind of elitist crap is that?
How do clueless newbies using Linux affect you in any way? And how would using freebsd change anything? You'll be using the same KDE or Gnome with the same apps.
To me it seems as if you fear to lose some kind of "leet status" you're telling yourself you have for using something that not that many other people use. And that is a wrong reason to use anything.
I personally don't care if Linux is used a lot or not. I use it because I really like the programs, the flexibility, the philosophies behind it,... (and none of those things are Linux specific, I theoretically could switch to a BSD kernel, and everything I use would still seem the same to me). It is of course easier to use something that is widely used, in the sense that you'll have less compatibility problems.
Because they are? They seem to be easily fascinated by religion, so why wouldn't internal plumbing blow their mind?
Wouldn't one be able to say the same thing about the US?
With all the "God bless" and "In God we trust" and "One nation, under God" things you guys have going on...
I have no doubts that they have a great deal of determination and patience, but intelligence? No.
Do not make the mistake of confusing intelligence with morality.
I think that Iced Earth's "Live In Athens" is the best live album I've ever heard.
Normally I don't like live albums that much, but I'm glad to make an exception here. Hell, I like most live songs better than the original album versions.
All this whining when just upgrading your mod-utils to module-init-tools would do the trick. It comes with versions of the *mod tools that allow you to work with both 2.4 and 2.6 kernels (it renames the original tools to *.old and uses those if the new ones don't work)
I've been using gentoo with a 2.5 and 2.6 kernel for quite some time, and never had problems with the modules.
A lot of the points you make have been (somewhat) solved with the JDK 1.4.2.
With the GTK+ and Windows XP look 'n feels, Swing programs look like native programs, and adjust themselves to whatever theme you have set up (it only supports the Bluecurve engine for GTK though).
GPL software == software with huge limitations on how it can be used.
The GPL sets no limitations on the use of the software, only on the (re)distribution of it (as in, any changes you made must be available to people you redistribute the software to).
That makes a whole lot of difference.
> We have a similar problem at my office. Corporate, in their infinate stupidity decided that e-mailint EXE files, in any direction through our servers should not be allowed.
*cough* zipfiles *cough* ?
Nah, that would never work.
The kdelibs (khtml, kjs, kparts,...) are licensed under the lgpl (even some bsd I think). That's why Apple was able to use khtml and kjs.
The kde applications (konqueror, kmail,...) on the other hand are gpl licensed.
Yes,
because we all know that no programmer has ever left an sql injection flaw in a php program.
Seriously, sql injection has little to do with what scripting language you're using, and everything with the programmer not checking the parameters he receives.
If you really want to be safe from that in webapplications, use java, where you're safe by
using Prepared Statements.
Give them as much fake data as you can get away with. There's most of the time no reasons a company needs your phone number,...
That goes especially for websites / software you need to dld,...
I can't remember the times I said I was a 90 year old Afghan woman that works as a computer programmer and who has an income of >100000$:)
MkLinux is a port of Linux to the Mach MicroKernel, and a corresponding
port of Mach to the HP PA-RISC, Intel x86, and Power Macintosh families
of computers. Originally sponsored by Apple, it consists of The Open Group
Mach (PMK 1.1) microkernel, with Linux running as a user-mode Mach task
on top.
waw, somebody here has never heard of servlets / jsp (Java Server Pages) and the likes.
It's basically the same model as what you have with ASP.Net (jsp pages are compiled to regular java classes on first access (but you can precompile).
Really, writing c/c++ cgi stuff nowadays (and some while before that too:) is stupid when you have stuff like php/mod_perl/jsp/asp.net.
Simply put I hate Sun and all their software products because they have REPEATABLY shown themselves to be the microsoft of unix-land.
You mean that microsoft has given things like NFS, Pam, Openoffice.org, Netbeans,... to the community?
If only that were true, then we could use more "microsofts of the unix world":)
I know, but the binutils 2.12 solves part of the linking problem by prelinking.
Just today, the objprelink programmer, Leon Bottou, posted on the kde-dev mailinglist, stating that the objprelink option is no longer necessary. When using the newest glibc, binutils and gcc, you already get large speedups.
But maybe I'm not the right person to judge performance since my main box is a dual athlon 1800 with 512mb ram:).
But even on my laptop(PIII 600/192MB, slow HD) konqueror loads in a second. I find KDE3 performing a lot better then 2.2. It could be a distro thing however. I switched from mandrake to gentoo and since then everything seems much faster.
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There sure is a lot of love going on in those quotes.
What kind of elitist crap is that?
How do clueless newbies using Linux affect you in any way? And how would using freebsd change anything? You'll be using the same KDE or Gnome with the same apps.
To me it seems as if you fear to lose some kind of "leet status" you're telling yourself you have for using something that not that many other people use. And that is a wrong reason to use anything.
I personally don't care if Linux is used a lot or not. I use it because I really like the programs, the flexibility, the philosophies behind it, ... (and none of those things are Linux specific, I theoretically could switch to a BSD kernel, and everything I use would still seem the same to me). It is of course easier to use something that is widely used, in the sense that you'll have less compatibility problems.
Wouldn't one be able to say the same thing about the US? ...
With all the "God bless" and "In God we trust" and "One nation, under God" things you guys have going on
Do not make the mistake of confusing intelligence with morality.
I think that Iced Earth's "Live In Athens" is the best live album I've ever heard.
Normally I don't like live albums that much, but I'm glad to make an exception here. Hell, I like most live songs better than the original album versions.
Any Iced Earth fan should get it.You misspelled P3 as P4 :)
This page however seems to suggest the cpuid is still present in early incarnations of the P4
It comes with versions of the *mod tools that allow you to work with both 2.4 and 2.6 kernels (it renames the original tools to *.old and uses those if the new ones don't work)
I've been using gentoo with a 2.5 and 2.6 kernel for quite some time, and never had problems with the modules.
A lot of the points you make have been (somewhat) solved with the JDK 1.4.2.
With the GTK+ and Windows XP look 'n feels, Swing programs look like native programs, and adjust themselves to whatever theme you have set up (it only supports the Bluecurve engine for GTK though).
There's more info on it at GnomeDesktop.org
The integration problems you talk about unfortunately still exist, but at least it can look better than plain old metal look 'n feel.
I think KDE can handle mouse gestures now for any random application, thanks to KHotkeys2.
GPL software == software with huge limitations on how it can be used.
The GPL sets no limitations on the use of the software, only on the (re)distribution of it (as in, any changes you made must be available to people you redistribute the software to).
That makes a whole lot of difference.
Ouch, that's just plain evil then.
> We have a similar problem at my office. Corporate, in their infinate stupidity decided that e-mailint EXE files, in any direction through our servers should not be allowed.
*cough* zipfiles *cough* ?
Nah, that would never work.
The kdelibs (khtml, kjs, kparts, ...) are licensed under the lgpl (even some bsd I think). That's why Apple was able to use khtml and kjs. ...) on the other hand are gpl licensed.
The kde applications (konqueror, kmail,
Other recent discoveries of the same calibre:
...
:)
Pigs can't fly
Earth isn't flat
Just to say that it's not really such a surprise to me
Yes,
because we all know that no programmer has ever left an sql injection flaw in a php program.
Seriously, sql injection has little to do with what scripting language you're using, and everything with the programmer not checking the parameters he receives.
If you really want to be safe from that in webapplications, use java, where you're safe by using Prepared Statements.
One word: Koffice
Give them as much fake data as you can get away with. There's most of the time no reasons a company needs your phone number,
That goes especially for websites / software you need to dld,
I can't remember the times I said I was a 90 year old Afghan woman that works as a computer programmer and who has an income of >100000$ :)
Perl if you never have to look at it again. ... :)
If you want others to be able to read your code, well
Knowing when to optimize is more important than knowing how to optimize
Urban performance legends
From the FAQ:
MkLinux is a port of Linux to the Mach MicroKernel, and a corresponding port of Mach to the HP PA-RISC, Intel x86, and Power Macintosh families of computers. Originally sponsored by Apple, it consists of The Open Group Mach (PMK 1.1) microkernel, with Linux running as a user-mode Mach task on top.
waw, somebody here has never heard of servlets / jsp (Java Server Pages) and the likes.
It's basically the same model as what you have with ASP.Net (jsp pages are compiled to regular java classes on first access (but you can precompile).
Really, writing c/c++ cgi stuff nowadays (and some while before that too
You mean that microsoft has given things like NFS, Pam, Openoffice.org, Netbeans, ... to the community? :)
If only that were true, then we could use more "microsofts of the unix world"
You could always try to install in textmode, it's not as nice but hey ... :)
I know, but the binutils 2.12 solves part of the linking problem by prelinking.
Just today, the objprelink programmer, Leon Bottou, posted on the kde-dev mailinglist, stating that the objprelink option is no longer necessary. When using the newest glibc, binutils and gcc, you already get large speedups.
You can find more info on objprelink here.
Never noticed similar problems.
But maybe I'm not the right person to judge performance since my main box is a dual athlon 1800 with 512mb ram :).
But even on my laptop(PIII 600/192MB, slow HD) konqueror loads in a second.
I find KDE3 performing a lot better then 2.2. It could be a distro thing however. I switched from mandrake to gentoo and since then everything seems much faster.