What was possibly the first real mobile phone, in the sense that it was connected to the telephone network, was tested by the Swedish police in 1946 for use in police cruisers. A half dozen calls could be made before the police car's battery ran out.
Then I guess Captain Marvel, Superman, Cohen the Barbarian, The Doctor, Harry Potter, Captain Harlock, Paul Bunyan, Sonic The Hedgehog, Tarl Cabot, James T. Kirk, James Bond, Vincent Valentine, Audie Murphy, Homer Simpson, Winston Smith, Solomon Kane, John Henry, Johnny the Homicidal Maniac, Invader Zim, Edmund Blackadder, Indiana Jones, Carmen Elektra aren't fantasy either.
"My main machine these days is a dual 2GHz G5 (aka PowerPC 970) - it's physically a regular Apple Mac, although it obviously only runs Linux, so I don't think you can call it a Mac any more;)" he said.
I run BeOS, QNX, FreeBSD and FreeDOS on my PC. So I don't think you can call it a PC anymore;) I said.
I wonder how he describes his PC usage. Does he say, I use a Windows? Or I own a Linux? No, he says I use a PC or I own a PC. Just like he uses a Mac now.
He reminds me of straight men who deny they have homosexual urges.
If he's running Linux, then he hasn't been using a PC. He's just using PC hardware. The phrase "using a PC" entails the hardware and OS.
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You could start the search from google, narrow it down to an e-tailer site like http://www.electrorent.com/products/search/browse. aspx, then once you find more information, redo your google search using the name of the part, rather than the specific model number.
Another good place to look is in Google Groups. Hope that helps.
Sony helped to develop FireWire? I thought Apple created FireWire, then later submitted it to the IEEE for approval as an open standard, after which the IEEE released it as IEEE1394.
"You would think the cradle this thing uses would support FireWire/i.Link as well as USB 2.0. Sony helped to develop the technology, and they use it in their Vaio PCs to boot. If they are already using their own tech for the codec, why not for the connection interface?"
"Since FireWire 800 is twice as fast as USB 2.0, it's hard to see a threat there."
Firewire 800 is NOT twice as fast as USB 2.0.
USB 2.0's rated speed is 480 Mbps.
The rated speed of Firewire 800 is 800 Mbps.
For Firewire to be twice as fast as USB 2.0, you will just have to wait until Firewire 960 comes out.
"The article doesn't mention Fahrenheit anywhere as far as I can tell. Neither does the discussion."
Why would the article need to? Do you know how hot 400 degrees Celsius really is? You could use a Lindberg Furnace to get temps that high, but most people couldn't afford one. Nor would they have space for one.
It's safe to say that most intelligent readers of Slashdot can figure out which temperature scale is being referred to in the article.
Don't worry about it. IE and Netscrape have gotten a lot faster and more stable, plus there is Omniweb, iCab, Mozilla and Opera.
As for the Java and your other concerns, Apple and Sun have teamed up to build a superior Java environment. Obj C is fully compatible with C and C++ code. Application wise, most major apps are available for Mac OS and Mac OS X. If it isn't, there is an open source alternative. Just look around and you will find it.
"If a machine costs a lot more and has a slower processer, it might look more like Mr Hankey than the cheaper one that is faster."
Processor speed comparisons between different families are totally bogus. The only way megahertz means anything is a comparison between processors in the SAME family. You can have a 500 mhz 68x0 processor and a 400 mhz G3 and the slower processor would actually be quite a bit faster.
"They are not really on par. Compared to Windows XP, the Mac-OS runs hardly any software."
Not sure what you are talking about. Mac OS? Do you mean Mac OS X or Mac OS 9? Or Mac OS 8? Macs run all Mac programs fine. And with virtual PC they can run all windows programs also. Try running a Dos based game under XP. Or Rune. Or are you talking about variety rather than compatibility? There are quite a large amount of applications that won't run under XP. Or they will run, however, the installer won't run. So, you need to boot into a dual partition scheme and install from Windows 98 to a shared fat 32 partition. Crazy stuff like that.
"Duped? By paying a lot less for a machine that is faster, can do a lot more, and has more options than an Apple product?"
You get what you pay for. Macs can do everything a PC can and usually easier. You can recompile the source from any program written for a Posix compliant OS, edit the makefile and you are now running all Linux and Unix applications, along with running Mac OS X applications. You can create Applescript scripts that can control Terminal.app as well as unix scripts that can control Terminal.app. You can also control Applescript using unix scripts. You can automate and control anything with Mac OS X. You won't find that on PC's. Plus, you have backwords compatibility with Mac OS 9 apps under Classic.
"Save the evangelish for the church."
Save the English lessons for school.
"Without Microsoft, there would be no Apple. A few years ago, when Apple was about to die due to its ongoing "customer be damned" mode, M$ bailed it out. Apple is little more than Microsoft's beard to shield it from monopoly charges. How do you like it that Apple right now is little more than a part of M$ business strategy."
Without Apple, Microsoft would have died very early on and would never have been able to get to the point where they could buy DOS and backstab it's way to the IBM contract. Learn your history lessson. Or did you skip those lessons along with your English lessons?
Also, without Apple, a lot of other companies would have died an early death. This includes gaming companies such as Electronic Arts and Sierra On-Line.
Anywho, without Apple paying Microsoft for use of it's 6502 Basic Interpreter, they would have become bankrupt. They had used up almost all their money up to that point.
Btw, Microsoft's payment wasn't to avoid monopoly charges. That's a myth. They settled out of court for payments due on licensing of the GUI from Apple. Oh, yeah, you missed that lesson also. Microsoft licensed Windows 1.0 and Windows 3.x until version 3.11, when they stopped payments. The agreement was that Apple would drop all future litigation in exchange for a $150 million investment in Apple non-voting stock. This is in addition to untold millions of dollars of additional monies being transferred to Apple in various non public forms.
In addition, Microsoft signed a technology agreement with Apple for 5 years where each company had access to each others source code and promised continued development for each other's platforms. So, Apple had access to parts of the underlying source to Windows 95, 98, ME, W2K, NT4,XP code, and most of their applications, not just the APIs. Microsoft had access to parts of the Mac OS 7 - 9.x code as well as Mac OS X code. Plus, they had unrestricted licenses to use each other's copyrights and patents for that 5 year period, which ended recently.
People have been saying a lot of crap about how Apple was going to die throughout it's history. But, what most people don't realize is that even before Jobs came back in 97, Apple had been INCREASING it's profits and had built up a few Billion dollars in reserves. Now, can you name many PC companies that have been around as long as Apple has? Dell? May 1984. Gateway? 1985. Compaq? Houston, 1982. lol As far as I can tell, only IBM and HP have been around longer then Apple. I can picture the commercials. "Dude, you are gonna buy a machine from a company that's been around since May, 1984!" lol How about "Dude, you are gonna buy a machine from a company that's been around since 1976 and has won more awards, such as the Oscar and The Grammy, then any other company around!"
Pray tell, why you think "news for nerds" would not apply in this case? Since when has the term "nerd" or "geek" been soley applied to computers and technology? The lonely, adolescent film buff who enjoys making films is not a nerd or geek? How about the violin or tuba player in the school band? How about the surfer who creates a land based device which seeks to import a water based sport form? The ones who found creative uses for empty swimming pools and found a creative outlet for utilizing them to express themselves? Wow, I applaud your open mindedness and insight. I want to be a cool guy, just like you. Heaven forbid, I would do such nerdy activities as play chess, skateboard, footbag, frisbee golf, program, Magic the Gathering, play guitar, work on motorcycles, renovate homes, paint, draw, write, photograph, and renovate old tractors. Boy, I'd hate to be called a geek. That would ruin my whole day and destroy my outlook on life. lol Thanks for saving me from myself.
Upgrade parts are not as widely avalible and are wildly expensive. Adding extra parts is pricy since everything has to be external.
Damn, I guess I have to return my 2 internal IBM Deskstar hard drives, my new agp ATI Radeon, and my D-Link PCI nic card. How dare I try to buy these industry standard devices for the same price as any other PC user! The nerve!
Name a major PC manufacturer that is shipping USB 2.0 enabled computers. lol
BTW, any USB 2.0 device is BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE with usb 1.1 capable machines.
This hasn't been true for over a decade now. There are a few die-hards still using Macs in education, and they're generally only used for teaching Photoshop.
So, is that why Apple and Dell are going back and forth as the number 1 distributor to schools? That statement is the most stupid thing I have heard you type. That such garbage can come from someone who knows how to surf the internet means that they should have never have opened up the internet to the public and businesses. Besides the University of Texas, there is the entire state of Maine. Here is a story about how the new iBooks have impacted the school to which they were delivered. Wow, who thought that children with technology that is reliable, inexpensive, extremely easy to use, powerful and elegant; such as OS X and the iBook; could do all that!
Wow. Er... very impressive site. I love it. And m68k machines were truly impressive. But, although I am a Mac lover, as well as a PC technician, I have to say that my Quadra 660AV is not even in your class.
I have always loved Australia and have many Australian friends, but if I had known you existed somewhere out there, I would have moved down there, become a citizen, found you, and asked you for your hand in marriage. Come on, a beautiful Aussie woman, highly technical, linux user, Mac lover, talented artist. Wow. What more can a geek ask for? hehe Except for a duel processing G4 tower, with dual scsi raid array, with 160 Gb Cheetahs, 1.5 Gb of ram, GeForce 4 Ti, 23" HD Cinema display, 24 pack of Sierra Mist, running Debian Gnu-Linux or Yellow Dog Linux or Darwin with X, firewire webcam, HP Deskjet 1220 C, and a sticker of Hexley on it. Mmm... Naw. Still not as good as an SE30 running System 6.0.7 with you sitting on it wearing a nighty, holding a 24 pack of Sierra Mist in one hand and in the other, a Neal Stephenson novel. Mmmmmmmm....... Er. Did I say all that out loud? hehe
"RISC rules? That argument died a decade ago. What are you, one of those 15 year old republicans who jerks off to macworld?"
What the fuck are you talking about? Do you just talk so you can read your own words and jerk off to how bright you sound? In what possible retarded world do you live in? Cisc is better then risc, I see. That's why there are no mission critical servers running on cisc. That's why intel, amd, via are all moving to risc. Do you realize that when you have a risc core with a cisc interface, that there must be a latency involved? Does this not make sense to you you fucking stupid idiot?
Kasparov has the highest Elo rating in history, but it is well known that this is due to inflated ratings in the '80's and '90's. In addition, the Elo ratings system hasn't been around that long in international play. So, many of the ratings assigned to the great players are reverse assigned based on current player's ratings.
As for the longest reign in chess, geez, I thought that record went to Emmanuel Lasker who was World Champion for a record 27 years straight.
No, he designed the Cat while he was working at Apple on the Mac project in 1979. Sorry.
Also, Jef was given a tour of honor by Xerox Parc because it was his books that influenced Xerox to open Parc in the first place. This is all history man. You need to do a bit more reading.
" I must say that the idea is novel enough, instead of building an environment around a specific language/compiler, you build a framework and have plugins support the specific features that you want. Java development tools have already been released and it looks like the C/C++ project is just getting under way. "
Novel? Apple's MPW has been around for many years and is the same. It is an ide with modular plugins for pascal, java, c, c++ and anthing else you want to use.
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Nothing beat my Mattel Aquarius and my catridge of Utopia, aka Civ 5.
This is very impressive. But, I'm more impressed by the Romans having accomplished this a thousand years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqueduct_(Roman)
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Then I guess Captain Marvel, Superman, Cohen the Barbarian, The Doctor, Harry Potter, Captain Harlock, Paul Bunyan, Sonic The Hedgehog, Tarl Cabot, James T. Kirk, James Bond, Vincent Valentine, Audie Murphy, Homer Simpson, Winston Smith, Solomon Kane, John Henry, Johnny the Homicidal Maniac, Invader Zim, Edmund Blackadder, Indiana Jones, Carmen Elektra aren't fantasy either.
I run BeOS, QNX, FreeBSD and FreeDOS on my PC. So I don't think you can call it a PC anymore ;) I said.
I wonder how he describes his PC usage. Does he say, I use a Windows? Or I own a Linux? No, he says I use a PC or I own a PC. Just like he uses a Mac now.
He reminds me of straight men who deny they have homosexual urges.
If he's running Linux, then he hasn't been using a PC. He's just using PC hardware. The phrase "using a PC" entails the hardware and OS.
You could start the search from google, narrow it down to an e-tailer site like http://www.electrorent.com/products/search/browse. aspx, then once you find more information, redo your google search using the name of the part, rather than the specific model number.
Another good place to look is in Google Groups. Hope that helps.
Sony helped to develop FireWire? I thought Apple created FireWire, then later submitted it to the IEEE for approval as an open standard, after which the IEEE released it as IEEE1394.
"You would think the cradle this thing uses would support FireWire/i.Link as well as USB 2.0. Sony helped to develop the technology, and they use it in their Vaio PCs to boot. If they are already using their own tech for the codec, why not for the connection interface?"
Firewire 800 is NOT twice as fast as USB 2.0.
USB 2.0's rated speed is 480 Mbps.
The rated speed of Firewire 800 is 800 Mbps.
For Firewire to be twice as fast as USB 2.0, you will just have to wait until Firewire 960 comes out.
Weirdo.
No, that would be a Pentium chip. Do you know of any Dell Lattitudes that used an AMD processor?
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Why would the article need to? Do you know how hot 400 degrees Celsius really is? You could use a Lindberg Furnace to get temps that high, but most people couldn't afford one. Nor would they have space for one.
It's safe to say that most intelligent readers of Slashdot can figure out which temperature scale is being referred to in the article.
Modern computer users have upgraded their systems to the Beer Server G3.
http://www.wired.com/news/images/0,2334,56085-5308 ,00.html
This machine simply flies past the competition.
Don't worry about it. IE and Netscrape have gotten a lot faster and more stable, plus there is Omniweb, iCab, Mozilla and Opera.
As for the Java and your other concerns, Apple and Sun have teamed up to build a superior Java environment. Obj C is fully compatible with C and C++ code. Application wise, most major apps are available for Mac OS and Mac OS X. If it isn't, there is an open source alternative. Just look around and you will find it.
"If a machine costs a lot more and has a slower processer, it might look more like Mr Hankey than the cheaper one that is faster."
,XP code, and most of their applications, not just the APIs. Microsoft had access to parts of the Mac OS 7 - 9.x code as well as Mac OS X code. Plus, they had unrestricted licenses to use each other's copyrights and patents for that 5 year period, which ended recently.
Processor speed comparisons between different families are totally bogus. The only way megahertz means anything is a comparison between processors in the SAME family. You can have a 500 mhz 68x0 processor and a 400 mhz G3 and the slower processor would actually be quite a bit faster.
"They are not really on par. Compared to Windows XP, the Mac-OS runs hardly any software."
Not sure what you are talking about. Mac OS? Do you mean Mac OS X or Mac OS 9? Or Mac OS 8? Macs run all Mac programs fine. And with virtual PC they can run all windows programs also. Try running a Dos based game under XP. Or Rune. Or are you talking about variety rather than compatibility? There are quite a large amount of applications that won't run under XP. Or they will run, however, the installer won't run. So, you need to boot into a dual partition scheme and install from Windows 98 to a shared fat 32 partition. Crazy stuff like that.
"Duped? By paying a lot less for a machine that is faster, can do a lot more, and has more options than an Apple product?"
You get what you pay for. Macs can do everything a PC can and usually easier. You can recompile the source from any program written for a Posix compliant OS, edit the makefile and you are now running all Linux and Unix applications, along with running Mac OS X applications. You can create Applescript scripts that can control Terminal.app as well as unix scripts that can control Terminal.app. You can also control Applescript using unix scripts. You can automate and control anything with Mac OS X. You won't find that on PC's. Plus, you have backwords compatibility with Mac OS 9 apps under Classic.
"Save the evangelish for the church."
Save the English lessons for school.
"Without Microsoft, there would be no Apple. A few years ago, when Apple was about to die due to its ongoing "customer be damned" mode, M$ bailed it out. Apple is little more than Microsoft's beard to shield it from monopoly charges. How do you like it that Apple right now is little more than a part of M$ business strategy."
Without Apple, Microsoft would have died very early on and would never have been able to get to the point where they could buy DOS and backstab it's way to the IBM contract. Learn your history lessson. Or did you skip those lessons along with your English lessons?
Also, without Apple, a lot of other companies would have died an early death. This includes gaming companies such as Electronic Arts and Sierra On-Line.
Anywho, without Apple paying Microsoft for use of it's 6502 Basic Interpreter, they would have become bankrupt. They had used up almost all their money up to that point.
Btw, Microsoft's payment wasn't to avoid monopoly charges. That's a myth. They settled out of court for payments due on licensing of the GUI from Apple. Oh, yeah, you missed that lesson also. Microsoft licensed Windows 1.0 and Windows 3.x until version 3.11, when they stopped payments. The agreement was that Apple would drop all future litigation in exchange for a $150 million investment in Apple non-voting stock. This is in addition to untold millions of dollars of additional monies being transferred to Apple in various non public forms.
In addition, Microsoft signed a technology agreement with Apple for 5 years where each company had access to each others source code and promised continued development for each other's platforms. So, Apple had access to parts of the underlying source to Windows 95, 98, ME, W2K, NT4
People have been saying a lot of crap about how Apple was going to die throughout it's history. But, what most people don't realize is that even before Jobs came back in 97, Apple had been INCREASING it's profits and had built up a few Billion dollars in reserves. Now, can you name many PC companies that have been around as long as Apple has? Dell? May 1984. Gateway? 1985. Compaq? Houston, 1982. lol As far as I can tell, only IBM and HP have been around longer then Apple. I can picture the commercials. "Dude, you are gonna buy a machine from a company that's been around since May, 1984!" lol How about "Dude, you are gonna buy a machine from a company that's been around since 1976 and has won more awards, such as the Oscar and The Grammy, then any other company around!"
Pray tell, why you think "news for nerds" would not apply in this case? Since when has the term "nerd" or "geek" been soley applied to computers and technology? The lonely, adolescent film buff who enjoys making films is not a nerd or geek? How about the violin or tuba player in the school band? How about the surfer who creates a land based device which seeks to import a water based sport form? The ones who found creative uses for empty swimming pools and found a creative outlet for utilizing them to express themselves? Wow, I applaud your open mindedness and insight. I want to be a cool guy, just like you. Heaven forbid, I would do such nerdy activities as play chess, skateboard, footbag, frisbee golf, program, Magic the Gathering, play guitar, work on motorcycles, renovate homes, paint, draw, write, photograph, and renovate old tractors. Boy, I'd hate to be called a geek. That would ruin my whole day and destroy my outlook on life. lol Thanks for saving me from myself.
Damn, I guess I have to return my 2 internal IBM Deskstar hard drives, my new agp ATI Radeon, and my D-Link PCI nic card. How dare I try to buy these industry standard devices for the same price as any other PC user! The nerve!
Name a major PC manufacturer that is shipping USB 2.0 enabled computers. lol BTW, any USB 2.0 device is BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE with usb 1.1 capable machines.
This hasn't been true for over a decade now. There are a few die-hards still using Macs in education, and they're generally only used for teaching Photoshop.
So, is that why Apple and Dell are going back and forth as the number 1 distributor to schools? That statement is the most stupid thing I have heard you type. That such garbage can come from someone who knows how to surf the internet means that they should have never have opened up the internet to the public and businesses. Besides the University of Texas, there is the entire state of Maine. Here is a story about how the new iBooks have impacted the school to which they were delivered. Wow, who thought that children with technology that is reliable, inexpensive, extremely easy to use, powerful and elegant; such as OS X and the iBook; could do all that!
I have always loved Australia and have many Australian friends, but if I had known you existed somewhere out there, I would have moved down there, become a citizen, found you, and asked you for your hand in marriage. Come on, a beautiful Aussie woman, highly technical, linux user, Mac lover, talented artist. Wow. What more can a geek ask for? hehe Except for a duel processing G4 tower, with dual scsi raid array, with 160 Gb Cheetahs, 1.5 Gb of ram, GeForce 4 Ti, 23" HD Cinema display, 24 pack of Sierra Mist, running Debian Gnu-Linux or Yellow Dog Linux or Darwin with X, firewire webcam, HP Deskjet 1220 C, and a sticker of Hexley on it. Mmm... Naw. Still not as good as an SE30 running System 6.0.7 with you sitting on it wearing a nighty, holding a 24 pack of Sierra Mist in one hand and in the other, a Neal Stephenson novel. Mmmmmmmm....... Er. Did I say all that out loud? hehe
Okay, two words. Janet Reno.
OMFG! Did you actually post that? Steve Ballmer naked????? Why not have a link to goatse.cx, why don't you?! Geez.
What the fuck are you talking about? Do you just talk so you can read your own words and jerk off to how bright you sound? In what possible retarded world do you live in? Cisc is better then risc, I see. That's why there are no mission critical servers running on cisc. That's why intel, amd, via are all moving to risc. Do you realize that when you have a risc core with a cisc interface, that there must be a latency involved? Does this not make sense to you you fucking stupid idiot?
Kasparov has the highest Elo rating in history, but it is well known that this is due to inflated ratings in the '80's and '90's. In addition, the Elo ratings system hasn't been around that long in international play. So, many of the ratings assigned to the great players are reverse assigned based on current player's ratings.
As for the longest reign in chess, geez, I thought that record went to Emmanuel Lasker who was World Champion for a record 27 years straight.
No, he designed the Cat while he was working at Apple on the Mac project in 1979. Sorry.
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Also, Jef was given a tour of honor by Xerox Parc because it was his books that influenced Xerox to open Parc in the first place. This is all history man. You need to do a bit more reading.
http://www.jefraskin.com/forjef2/jefweb-compile
This should debunk some of the myths out there.
Novel? Apple's MPW has been around for many years and is the same. It is an ide with modular plugins for pascal, java, c, c++ and anthing else you want to use.