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Baked Apple
Aaron Steele writes "Okay, I work at an Apple Authorized Retailer and we just had a lady come in to see if we could fix her PowerBook G4. She walks in the store and comes up to me, 'Sir, I've got a baked Apple.' The top of the screen was a little brown and warped. The lady opened up the machine and the screen was all cracked, and there was not a single key left on the keyboard. It turns out she had the machine in the oven for 20 minutes, baking at 400 degrees. No joke. And what's even more amazing. The machine still works. Ethernet, Modem, USB, it all works. Plug in an external monitor and keyboard and it's good as new ... almost." Am I the only one for whom this conjures up images of Shrinky Dinks?
Surely, not slashdotted already?
Ce n'est pas un vrai mouvement de robot!
Just curious !
Link doesn't work. Bummer. I"ve got a PB ... why the hell did somebody bake it? When I read the headline I thought one of the Froot-of-the-Loom characters was caught toking in the mens' room or something.
damn, this is a slow day. FTW is this. Just waiting for a doublepost of this. That would be great. ohhh back to code....
mmmmm........ baked apple.
Methinks the powerbook was not the only thing that was "baked".
I am not your blowing wind, I am the lightning.
...it was possible for something to suck and blow, either.
That's the oddest pie recipe I've ever seen.
Stating on Slashdot that I like cheese since 1997.
It turns out she had the machine in the oven for 20 minutes, baking at 400 degrees.
....Why??
well, ibooks are hot
Everbody knows that after Woz left, apples don't do anything, so they do it just as well after you bake them....big surprize.
Move along, nothing to see here.
P.S. I rather like apples, so I believe I have the right to joke about them a little. This is not intended to be flamebait.
"Semper in excretum set alta variant"
I'm more amazed that no one asked her why she did it... Do we look down on non-computer people so much that we don't even bother to ask anymore why they do stupid things?
P.S. The picture seems to be slashdotted into oblivion now.
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This one should work.. http://homepage.mac.com/aaronsteele/PhotoAlbum6.ht ml
homepage.mac.com/aaronsteele/PhotoAlbum9.html
It could be worth pointing out that the correct URL is http://homepage.mac.com/aaronsteele/PhotoAlbum6.ht ml here.
Did she also add some pie crust and cinnamon?
Why the heck would she do that in the first place?
Sounds just like a bored techie coming up with a story to post on the front page of Slashdot...
for some reason, i got the idea that this was a new model.....except this one was made entirely of hemp. now thats an apple i'd buy..
xao
xao
http://TheHillforum.hopto.org
Was this woman real old? Did she put it in with cookies, or brownies? What was in those brownies? And do you think she has anymore?
If you, for some obscure reason, want to see a baked apple, here's the real url.
i have this theory that 98% of consumer electronic
problems can be fixed by taking the device out of the plastic, and throwing it in an oven. it's more of a joke, but it does have truth, as the problems are usually cold solder joints finally failing. (most of the time, you can simply fix things by going over the solder joints that are high stress, such as the terminals mounted right on the board).
perhaps her laptop was broken and she fixed it, but forgot that plastic melts?
this is really probably a bad idea, once lead vapor gets in an oven, it doesn't really come out.. unless it's going into your food
somebody shoving an iMac in the JuiceMaster to make some apple juice?
...was it IN THE OVEN in the first place????
Was she hungry? Grandkids coming over for a snack?
Try this one for baked apple
Under capitalism man exploits man. Under communism it's the other way around.
How can someone be so hungry to try to eat a laptop??? This is almost as disgusting as eating cats ...
several questions come to mind.
why. why would you put a laptop into an oven.
was she sober.
and why didnt you tell her it wasnt done yet?
oh golly. ignorance is bliss...give me the red pill
[I can picture a world without war, without hate. I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it]
Whole box was quite warped, and had to switch many of the keys around to make them depressable, but it still functioned.
Moral of the story is: don't ever leave your computer in front of a fan heater for 30 mins.
Yes.
http://homepage.mac.com/aaronsteele/PhotoAlbum6.ht ml
Are you the same individual who took those pictures, or a worthless ripoff?
-73, de n1ywb
www.n1ywb.com
OMG OMG lololol!!!111
Wow dude, like, this is totally cool!!1 Like wow man.
Dude, catch my reference! I said cool, OMG lolol!!!!11
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Fucking retard.
She was probably cleaning and shoved the powerbook into the oven to wipe a counter or something.
:)
Don't laugh - my wife did this to a tray full of tupperware (so she could clean the sink and counters) and it ruined her oven.
Ok, now laugh
Why?
Evidently if you don't make sure the little switch is in the right position in the back and plug it into high voltage, the things tend to be a little tempermental. Loud pop, a little smoke and no more SUN.
Worst. Sig. Ever.
Dear Powerbook owner:
In an effort to clear some of the junk out of your house, now that your TiBook is not as attractive as it should be, I can for a small fee collect it from you and get that eyesore out of your life.
Contact me when you decide to move on.
timothy
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
well this certainly is a chance for apple to get some good press out of this. i mean they can surely boast that their machines can take a superior beating and still perform. its very impressive that a processor could with stand that much heat and still function. i thought that procs would melt into nice little worthless blobs of silicon at temps much less than that. really though what was that woman thinking when she put her laptop in the oven?!?!
. It turns out she had the machine in the oven for 20 minutes, baking at 400 degrees.
Did she say what she was trying to accomplish by doing this? I'm really curious.
what a waste of a perfectly good apple. everyone knows you don't bake apples without cinnamon and suger!
I write code.
... but baking at 400 degrees for 20 minutes?
EEEEEK!
And I thought I abused my iBook by pushing it off my desk a few times (once open and running) - it looks a little scratched and the hinge mount on the screen is a little bent, but no damage.
To a Lisp hacker, XML is S-expressions in drag.
Joke - She mistook the shiny laptop for a baking pan. And removed the stains with peroxide.
Serious-Her young kids/any young kids in the house put it in the oven and she turned it on for something else.
Was there a crumb topping?
Humph, Just check out the server when we're done with it, we'll show you baked!!!
Gentlemen start your browsers...
Commence slashdotting!!!
I stole this Sig
These are all the relevant urls:
Set of pics of the machine
Shows it still boots
Story behind this
More pics showing it works
kind of reminds me of this /. story about someone baking a palm. apparently, he was trying to dry off his palm from the rain. kind of amazing what these things can go through, or what people think they can go through...
:)
but in the case of the palm, someone else didn't notice the palm in the oven and baked a pizza over it.
-- Kircle
The new saying it not "how fast is your machine?", its
"How many degrees can your machine handle?".
Note to self: get smarter troll to guard door.
Oh... shrinky dinks. That's OK then.
Is those old Apple ][ advertisements, where one was toasted in a house fire, keyboard melted and it still worked after a transplant.
I only see pictures of a baked apple. I see not a single one proving that it still works. So wheres the evidence? Show me the thing booting and this might be news. Otherwise its just plain dumb.
Cu,
Lispy
... and thought it wasn't getting hot enough when it ran.
To a Lisp hacker, XML is S-expressions in drag.
I thought this was going to be an article about another flaming PowerBook model. This one should be filed under "It's funny. Laugh!"
"But you've already got a DVD. It lasts forever....In the digital world, we don't need back-ups..."
-- Jack Valenti
What about the LCD? At that temp, would it boil the liquid crystal? Would that turn it into a gas crystal display?
Serously, that was a joke.
Don't ping my cheese with your bandwidth!
No big surprise... every one of the PCBs in there has already been fed through an oven once, WHEN IT WAS SOLDERED!!!
One Apple PowerBook G4
One "dumb user"
One computer store employee
Thousands of Slashdotters
Preparation instructions:
1. Bake Apple at 400 degrees for 20 minutes.
2. Post the baking of the Apple on Slashdot.
3. Have Slashdotters attempt to bring down mac.com.
4. Profit?
Apples have been heat resistant since the days of the Apple II Plus!
sulli
RTFJ.
I bet it's the same lady that microwaved her cat after washing him...
A couple of quotes fromt ml :
http://homepage.mac.com/aaronsteele/Personal8.h
I finally had to ask the lady how all of this had happened. As it turns out, she baked the PowerBook in the oven for 20 minutes. I kid you not. She said it with a straight face, and I could hardly keep from laughing. She wasn't joking. The thing was baked.
So that's all she said... apparently they didn't press any further at that moment:
No, we don't know why she did it, but we are attempting to find out.
She probably mixed her Apple Crisp and Apple iTunes recipes. I'd be willing to bet her CD player is filled with applesauce.
I would like to know how the batteries faired. Since the machine works it is obvious that it was shut down.
Get a free ipod.
I suspect she was trying to be like Ellen Feiss but misinterpreted something.
She was probably trying to get baked and then talk about Apple, but instead baked the Apple.
Simple mistake, really. Anyone could have made it.
Karma: Excellent Birds (mostly as a result of listening to Laurie Anderson)
I havent done Apple Service in some years but wow, has AppleCare extended to covering the Im a dumbass area?
In the past if you sneezed weird on your powerbook the warranty would be void and need to be sent to Apple at the customers expense for warranty inspection.
if my plastic sony vaio would be able to withstand the oven? Another reason why Apple rox0rs, you can cook your laptop and it still works. I hate WinTel laptops, and now I love mac ones more.
You said that she brought it in to be fixed, but you didn't say that you then proceeded to laugh in her face. Can you actually fix this? How much would it run? Is it worth it?
I say this because my PowerBook G4 is probably the most valuable uninsured thing that I own (I wonder if homeowner's insurance would pay for it) and I shudder to imagine something like this happening to mine.
Well, not something like THIS, for crying out loud. I can't imagine the logic that would result in even temporary storage of my PowerBook in the OVEN. But I often think about how I'm just a drop or a crush away from being REALLY pissed off and out the $2000 that I spent on my PowerBook.
John
So THAT's what happened to Ellen Feiss's Powerbook.
ceci n'est pas un sig.
Grandma's Olde Fashioned G4 Pie Recipie
Apple Filling:
1 large tart Apple Powerbook G4
40 grams / 1 1/2 oz of butter
1/2 cup of castor sugar
1 cup of water
1 cinnamon stick or 1/2 a teaspoon of ground cinnamon
4 whole cloves or a pinch of ground cloves
2 large strips of the rind of 1/2 a lemon (zest)
1 teaspoon of cornflour
Peel the Powerbook and cut into quarters. Remove the core and dice each quarter. In a large saucepan melt the butter over a medium low heat, add the diced Powerbook, sugar, water, lemon rind, cinnamon and cloves and combine. Cover and sweat for 5 to 10 minutes, or until the Powerbook is just tender but still retains its shape. Remove from the heat. Discard the lemon rind, cinnamon stick and cloves. Drain most of the excess liquid off and mix in the cornflour. Set aside to cool.
Sweet Shortcrust Pastry
2 cups of flour
A pinch of salt
125 grams / 4 1/2 oz of butter
1/4 cup of castor sugar
1 egg
1 to 2 tablespoons of milk
Preheat the oven to 180C, 350F or gas mark 4. Grease a large deep pie dish or a round springform tin. Shake two cups of flour into the tin to dust the sides. Pour the flour out into a large bowl or food processor and add the sugar. Cut the butter into small cubes and rub into the flour with your hands or process until the mixture resembles fine breadcrumbs. Add the egg and mix or process for another 5 to 10 seconds until the mixture comes together, adding the milk if necessary. Turn out the mixture on a lightly floured bench or board and knead until the mixture forms a smooth ball. Handle as little as possible to prevent the pastry from becoming hard when baked. Cover with plastic wrap and refrigerate for 20 minutes.
On a lightly floured bench or board roll out two-thirds of the pastry, 5 mm (1/8 inch) thick. Place inside the greased and dusted tin to form the base and sides of the pie. Carefully spoon the cooled Powerbook filling into the pie shell. Roll out the remaining pastry into a circle, 5 mm (1/8 inch) thick and large enough to cover the Powerbook and form the lid of the pie. Wrap the lid over a rolling pin and carefully unroll over the top of the pie. Trim off the excess pastry, seal the edge by crimping the pastry sides using a fork or pinching between your forefinger and thumb. Make small slits or holes in the lid with a small knife for air to escape. With a pastry brush, lightly coat the top with a little extra beaten egg. Bake for 40 to 50 minutes or until the pastry is golden. Serve hot or cold with ice cream, whipped cream or custard.
To form a lattice top cut 1 cm (½ inch) strips out of the pastry lid. Lay them across the pie, 5 mm (1/4 inch) apart. Fold back every second vertical strip and lay a new horizontal strip across the strips that have not been folded. Lay the folded back strips back down. Then repeat folding back the vertical strips that were not folded in the previous round. Cover the rest of the pie in a similar fashion.
(Serves 6 to 8)
And this sounds more likely to be a silly experiment some geek ran at home, and figured would make a great Slashdot story if he invented a more interesting story around it.
"Ask not what your country can do for you." --John F. Kennedy
There's a poll... I'm not sure if this is serious or not, but take your pick:
Only Apple could combine the best hardware and most stupid end users.
Baked Apple? Now I've seen everything. And I thought most Windows users were stupid.
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So, if it still works, why doesn't the guy call the lady up and tell her. She could buy an external monitor, keyboard, and mouse (that's less than $1000), and still have a computer that works. Instead of wasting the thousands of dollars that she spent on it completely.
Smokin....
/syle
My 8500 was present when my house burned (thanks to idiot neighbor). After the fire, heat, and dirty firehose water it looked like hell. The keyboard, mouse and monitor were shot (none were Apple products anyway). The CPU booted up and ALL data was intact - I had three drives in there, too!
In all seriousness, although the par-baked PowerBook might still work now, I'm guessing that the chance of a latent part failure in the near future has been significantly increased.
A similar situation happen to my younger sister. She got a furby for christmas several years ago and had a lot of fun with it until one day it wouldn't shut up while she was trying to do some homework at the kitchen table. So she decided to put it in a dark quiet place ... THE OVEN! That did a wonderful job of quieting it down, so good that she promptly forgot about it. Later that evening my mother preheated the oven for dinner. A few minutes later she smelled burning plastic ... the poor furby had its fur singed, was severly deformed, and never worked again.
And there was much rejoicing
YAY!
Thoughts on tech, Software Engineering, and stuff
Anyone who makes a product to tolerate this sort of egregious unforeseen abuse is overbuilding it. This adds significant cost without adding value for 99.99999% of the users. If it wasn't for the general insanity of Mac users, who pay an extra slug of pure cash profit just to spite Microsoft and Intel, there's no way Apple would still be in business.
dude... ive heard this story several times over the past few years...with slight changes of course like (dude my roomate has a friends who sister...)
From the article:
Before we tossed it in the trash, I decided to try and power it up just for kicks, and it worked! The machine booted just fine! The screen is cracked and broken, but if you plug in an external monitor and keyboard it works like a charm. Ethernet, Modem, USB, Optical Drive, and HD all work just fine. I have already reformatted the HD and installed Mac OS 10.2.
Did no one at the store think to call this lady and tell her? Don't you think she might have wanted her machine back if she knew it still booted? At least so she could get her data off...
Did it scratch the paint?
Ok, ok, enough with the Pie jokes. There is plenty of good material here without them:
Are you sure this machine wasn't stolen? From the pictures, it looks kinda hot.
Are you sure she wasn't just trying to burn her first CD?
Insert OB Overclocking Joke Here
"Ma'am, I feally think you are missing the point of FireWire."
best web host ever
So did you think to ask her why she did it?
Another example of a Mac user inspired by the "Think Different" campaign. What other kind of half-baked reason could she have?
I wonder if this will make it into "Real Stories" :)
Am I the only one for whom this conjures up images of Shrinky Dinks?
My dink gets real shrinky in warm bathwater
"...images of Shrinky Dinks?"
Yes.
Yes you are.
-- Boycott Shell
The second page of photos is here:
. ht ml
http://homepage.mac.com/aaronsteele/PhotoAlbum7
You can clearly see OS9 has booted. I think there might have been less damage if she were running OSX.
Is there any explanation to why she baked it?
The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. - Benjamin Franklin
She forgot to add the cinnamon and marshmallows.
-some weird story. Glad I got to see the pics with the correct URL. WHY did this lady do this?
--here's my tough as nails apple story. We run on solar here. The first year though I didn't have a proper buried power cable, my AC feed from the inverters was literally just an extension cord on top of the ground. Was running a mac 6400 tower at the time, through a surge protector/power strip (no, too dumb to send in warranty card when I got the surge, duh on me). Anywho, one day there's a thunderstorm, being reasonably cautious I unplugged everything. Storm goes away, cool, plug all the stuff back in. About 5 minutes later ZAP! Rogue lightning bolt hits I guess the ground nearby or the cord directly. Pooter goes POP, everything shuts down. I mean it was loud, a very close by hit.
I am steamed, think oh crap no pooter. Reset breaker, hit power button, CHIME, that nice boot up chord! Amazing! thing boots but ran sorta screwy. Just-screwy. surfing was a tad slower, would get occassional screen freezes, etc, but as it was at the time my "best" computer I just kept using it. Next day I open the case, WOW, the mobo is all crispy! I mean fried city, and the thing is still working. Hard to describe except it looked -lightning hit. there's burnt stuff all over. I cleaned it as good as possible and put it back together. Used it for a few more months in crippled mode, then upgraded an old quadra to use instead, then I bought a used pb 1400, then I just parted the 6400 out, kept the drives and those great built in speakers.
tough boxes for sure
that after 20 minutes, the OSX kernel would have popped!
well this just proves the IQ level of mac users..:) hope this makes the anti macers smile !! ps : am a 5 month old switcher so dont flame me :)
I'm baffled as to why this was posted. So if for some strange reason I decided to become the worlds biggest idiot and put a computer in an oven to see how long it takes before it breaks completely this is somehow news worthy or at least slashdot worthy? In that case let me put my old Palm III in the microwave for 10 minutes and see wht happens - take some pictures and post it on slashdot - maybe it will get posted and my dot mac page will get a gazzilion hits and then my boss will think i'm cool because lots of people come to my page to learn the facts about microwaves and Palm III's. NOT
Ave Molech Setting
I'm more amazed that no one asked her why she did it
Clearly this is the start of a new Mac ad campaign. You remember "It takes a licking, and keeps on ticking!"
Soon we will be deluged with pictures of powerbooks that were dropped from great heights, run over by buses...
You get the drift.
This story surely is.
[b]Am I the only one for whom this conjures up images of Shrinky Dinks?[/b]
...or...
Step 1. Place 17" Powerbook in 350 degree oven
Step 2. Watch in amazement as it curls up and shrinks
Step 3. Remove. Allow 12" Powerbook to cool before booting.
Step 3. Profit!!!
1. Are you sueing Apple too?
2. Is this covered under APP (Apple protenction plan)?
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Maybe if you stick Yao Ming in the oven, you'd get Verne Troyer?
All of the boards in there were reflowed when they were created and probably got much hotter than that to solder all of the parts in place. It had coolled off considerably before being turned back on.
What might have been interesting is to find it in the oven at 400 degrees _and_ it running!
On a side note, it's kind of hard to say much to the customer about it at all. Management frowns on pretty much any question you would be inclined to ask them. They like to steer you away from phrases like "Are you on drugs?" "What, are you retarded?" and "What the FUCK is WRONG with you?" So you just sigh, shake your head and fix their machine.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
Why the fuck is this on slashdot? This is ridiculous. Some idiot cooked their laptop and it gets posted on technology news site. You guys really need to evaluate standards.
No sig for you. YOU GET NO SIG!
What kind of mind altering drugs would a person have to be in order to place their laptop in the oven and set it on bake?
Seriously, this person is defintely ill in some form or another?
They should not be allowed to own a computer.
Next we will be hearing of people who have placed laptops under the wheels when their cars that are stuck in order to gain some traction on the snow and ice.
This shouldn't be covered under any kind of warranty nor should home owners insurance be responsible for such a stupid mistake.
-handybundler
Methinks the powerbook was not the only thing that was "baked"
I'm sure the outer shell of the laptop insulated it somewhat from the heat for the 20 minutes it was in there.
And 400 F isnt enough probably to destroy any of the stuff inside that isnt plastic. Paper doesnt even burn until 420. Perhaps if it was on at the time, some chips would fry.
As to why it happened, my guess is a kid did it. Some kids are just stupid brats. Once I had a PC up on my desk, case open as I was fiddling around with some upgrades. Some of the family came to visit, it was christmas eve. So I left it there and went to be social.
One of my nephews (on their mothers side) came into the room (when I wasnt there) and picked up a pair of wire cutters, and just started cutting wires inside. IDE cables, power wires, CD-rom audio cables. Pissed me off because he pretty much killed a good $99 PSU.
I asked him why he did it? Just looks at his shoes and goes "i dunno". But I know. He's a stupid little brat and did it to get attention.
The joke was on him. The PC was for his father to give him for christmas.
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!!!
so like I was working on a paper for school and I thought it'd. be.. like.. cool.. to put my PC laptop in... the oven... for like.. 20 minutes and it was like.. bleep bloop bleep and it died. I lost my paper.. it was.. a.. really good paper.
Then I bought a Mac laptop. I was working on another.. like.. paper.. and thought it'd be cool to put.. this Mac.. in the.. like.. oven for 20 minutes. and I did.. and it still booted up..
it was a really good paper.
Trolling is a art,
Remember the Space Clam iBook? The corners were double-shod rubber wrapped around the two frontmost corners, which (on this model) were the likeliest impact points in the event of a drop. The newer iBooks have an HD that is encased in a brick of rubber. Aluminum/titanium frames. This is the stuff you want in a laptop.
If Jesus wants me it knows where to find me.
... all a publicity stunt by Apple. :P
I miss my rubber keyboard.(Homepage)
This is the stupidest smelly-clown-fart-dumbass-idio-moronic-pea-brain idea. Wow!
I think this serves to show what type of person posts on Slashdot. One who has no computer knowledge and thinks posting a comment is like belching up Budweiser and has more time on their hands than sense.
That was classic intercourse!
it's actually kind of sad, if you look at those photos.
twas once a thing of beauty...now a $3k failed baking experiment.
"I DARE you to make less sense!"
There was an ad that Apple published back in the days of the Apple ][ that carried this exact headline, and it was the true story of a man's Apple ][ that had survived a housefire. A new case and keyboard was all it needed.
Sometimes history repeats itself in good ways.
Honorary Member of Jackie Chan's Kung Fu Process Servers
Do you check the inside of the oven everytime you turn it on? I came home late one night when I was living at home and preheated the oven to make a pizza. My friends and I went upstairs, 10 minutes later we smelled the most aweful thing: cooking cat food! My mother, it seems, stores cat food in the oven overnight (is it just me or is that really gross regardless). I found every fan in the house and plugged them in the kitchen, opened the windows wide in the middle of winter. I'll agree with the sentiment that some kids probably shoved it in there. POSSIBLY an adult wanting to hide it from children. We may never know.
When the boys at Lockheed designed the SR-71 they used a lot of Titanium around the spots that would get a little warm when the aircraft was going Mach 3 or so.
Somehow I doubt this is what the industrial designers at Apple had in mind when they used it though.
Four weeks, Twenty papers, that's two dollars
Obviously because the Mac 8600 is some sort of TIME MACHINE!
There is a VAST need for training of ppl before they get involved with computers . Or from another perspective IQ tests to tell ppl they really need to stay away from the complex machines above lets say ....
The over used to cook the G4 ....
google "32 trillion offshore needs IRS attention"
Seems to me that the Powerbook must not have been the only thing baked. If she was on the ganja, it would make a great addition to the ads that say pot makes you pregnant and causes you to shoot your friends!
She was high on marijuana and baked her laptop... I guess pot is more dangerous than we all thought.
Used to feature an Apple ][ recovered from a fire -- totally melted and still working.
There was also a story about a library in a village in Papua New Guinea that was flooded, and the Macs in the library were filled with mud. They hosed em off, dried them out, and they worked.
Finally there's an old BMUG article about "hanging your disks out to dry" after their shareware library was flooded. They opened the floppy disks, washed the disks gently with detergent, air dried them, and put them back in new cases. Voila they were readable.
I used the same trick on a floppy disk soaked with spilled coffee (far worse than flood water I imagine). No data loss.
I had a pc that had been thru the same thing, only this was a house fire, the whole house burned down. The pc's metal case was fine, though charred, and the plastic was all melted, but it booted and worked perfectly, save for the melted plastic preventing the cdrom from ejecting. Who cares about someone burning their mac?
....has a major crack near one of the hinges and paint thats coming off FROM NORMAL USE! :-o
Kinda sucks for a machine 9 months old that cost US$3000.
Well, 400 degrees is right around solder melting temperature. I'm not surprised the case plastic didn't melt - tough plastic typically has a high melting point. If she shook the machine violently while it was still 400 F then she could have shaken components off the board.
Otherwise, from an electronics standpoint, I'm not surprised that it still worked. I wouldn't do it, but hey, to each her own.
-Adam
As someone pointed out in the capacitor story, low cost correlates pretty strongly to low quality but high cost only correlates weakly to high quality. That's why I've stuck with Apple--since they have control of the hardware and through their policies, I've learned that the quality of their products is high, and I have had success counting on that in the past.
(Sorry about the crappy link, the only other hit google gave me was a tripod site.)
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
I'm not sure where I read this (maybe I dreamed it), but I knew a very similar story. It turns out that the user in question was going away for a trip, so she decided to hide her laptop inside the oven (who'd have thought of looking for a laptop there, huh?).
The problem was that when she returned from her trip, she wanted to bake something, so she turned her oven on (for preheating), and when she opened the door to put the food in, she found her laptop.
I swear I read it somewhere. An urban legend, maybe?
Signatures are supposed to be funny?
From the description that the repair guy gave, it sounds like she wasn't in a panic about it, which I think I would be if it had been an accident. "She also kept every single key. She told us that they popped off while it was in the oven and she dug through to save every one." Sounds pretty "pre-meditated" to me. I am surprised that no one has posted this scenario to explain her actions: perhaps it's a revenge thing? Picture this: Wife finds out that her husband is cheating so she decides to take it out on his prized possession? Maybe he's cheating with someone he met online (hence taking it out on the "source" of the problem)? Sounds an awful lot like a variation on the "selling hubby's super-expensive sports car for $1" story to me!
Of course it still works, thats nothing compared to how hot most PC laptops get...
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -MLK
The Apple may have been baked, but the customer was obviously only half-baked...
I found the meaning of life the other day, but I had write-only access.
Are the voices in this gal's head so loud they disturb her co-workers?
Because that is about the ONLY reason I can come up with for this behavior.
If this gal is a mother, I would report her to SRS before she does the same to one of her kids!
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Ok, I know this will cost me a bit of Karma, but I gotta ask: What kind of crack was this lady smoking? I would have told her "No!" She violated her warranty and we would not even attempt to fix it? I don't give a rat's shit about it, this is fucked in the head in a major way. This lady doesn't have a brain cell that operates. ... she put the goddamned thing in the fucking oven!... CHRIST!
Just as R. Lee says: "What is your major malfunction, numbnuts?!"
You have to realize that most Mac users are really just Windows haters. Throughout the 90's Apple put out some of the worst computers and OSs ever. They finally have started getting things right recently and all of sudden they are forgiven for the years of torment they gave to their once loyal customers. I personally think that Apple was far more negligent than Microsoft ever was.
Apple also did a demo similar to what you describe with the iBook, I forget if it was the initial introduction of the toilet-seat iBook or the Macworld directly after but they had a guy climb a ladder and toss the iBook on the floor, where Jobs proceeded to pick it up and boot it.
Anyone remember this?
CAn'T CompreHend SARcaSm?
This is something that I could see a 3 year old doing. Thinking that he could play a joke the kid will hide the Computer in the over because that is somewhere no one would look for it. Not knowing this the mother is about to cook something and preheats the oven at 400. after 20 minutes she opens the door to see her expensive laptop in the stove with the white apple starting to brown and the keys fizzling. Using potholder she quickly gets the computer out of the oven. This is just a possible story on what possibly could of happend where the lady was of average intelegance. when little kids are involved random things can happen to people that seem compleatly irationail otherwise.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Here, try this.
A few months ago, one of my clients suffered a house fire. His Dell notebook suffered similar damage, but booted with an external keyboard and monitor. We were able to transfer the data from it, and stored it on our server until the replacement arrived.
So this is a big deal? Wish I'd know. I could have had a story on Slashdot!
the no
There's rarely ever lightning in Hawaii but damned if a HD doesn't die fast if you repeatedly overload the inverter while the thing's running!
Cost us $500 for a 2 gig drive. It's a wonder we never adapted the thing straight to the 12volt system.
That's freaking sad. But that so should have been put in here: http://www.xtremetek.com/dumbassdb/index.php Along with the lady who put money and credit cards into her bay slots. Hahhahhahaha, oh man, so funny.
How could someone be at once smart enough to earn enough money to afford a powerbook, and stupid enough to put it in an oven in the first place?
Just wondering...
The plastic can't withstand the heat (hence the discolouration), but the ICs and PCB can easily take those temperatures. Those components have to be able to stand the heat of immersive wave soldering, which is generally much higher than what a home oven can put out.
This reminds me of a time I was working in an office and a co-op student suddenly started panicking.
He yelled out to our resident techie "There's smoke coming out of my monitor! What should I do!"
Our techie replied, very calmly: "Turn it off."
So maybe we're not hearing the reasons because this person wants to keep her job.
(I know ten women like this customer, though. Think of how casual she was in saying her little "baked apple" thing. Didn't faze her much. This is a woman with serious money and no sense. She miplaces four cell phones a year, at least.)
"Fundamentalism" isn't about divine morality. It's about human authority.
I've seen several places that need computers to work in "exotic" environments. (deserts, ice feilds, savannah) Most of these places have a vigorous routing of taking the mobo's out of their computers, discharging all the electricity, giving it a good scrub down, and then drying it off in the oven every 6 months or so. I thought it was kinda crazy too, but ... they still work.
Code softly but carry a big magnet.
Maybe she was trying to destroy data on the machine for some reason, that or somebody else was trying to destroy data on her machine. Who knows, maybe she didn't have a straight answer because there was something illegal involved.
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I don't get it. This is a 15", $2,400.00 powerbook, right? And she dumped it, without explanation, at a repair shop, because fixing it would be $1,000.00 for the new screen?
This story has the stink of "bullshit" written all over it, frankly.
Slashdot is jumping the shark. I'm just driving the boat.
Obviously she's a modern day emancipated woman who has more important things to do than learn how to work all those thingamajigs in the kitchen!
This reminds me of the original GameBoys. When I subscribed to Nintendo Power, people would write in about their experience with their GameBoys and how it got destroyed, etc. Every time, they said that even after it got run over by a car, thrown out a window, etc, it still worked.
And you didn't make it this time either. So you can go back to feeling worthless.
400F (200C) isn't very high. The systems I design have to be able to withstand 250C for a couple weeks at a time. Some systems have to handle 350C for weeks, and we are trying to push that to 500C.
Sig is on vacation
I now feel worthwhile!
sad, isn't it?
I worked for Digital Research, we did support for all the DR peripherals, IO cards, mice, sound and video... Lots of jumpers to configure, lots of crap to support...
... Still jerky!...
Well, one day I get a call from this guy, and his mouse wont work,... says that the mouse is jumpy on the screen... "Dirty track ball" I think, so I have him clean that... still jerky,... "Check Settings" I think, settings are fine... so we reinstall the drivers, reconnect the mouse, reboot the system,
So I call over my lv2 tech and his partner, and they go through all the same procedures.... for 45 minutes, were working this guy through navigating in windows with a mouse whose pointer jumps from one side to the other...
The guy is frustrated, pissed at the mouse, pissed at us... and he vents... "I Just don't get this, Why do you sell this mouse if it doesn't work!!! I mean, it's not even designed right, the buttons are hard to click, and the label is upside down..."
My ears peaked, so I took a chance... "Sir," as politely as I could muster, "When you look at the mouse, as your using it... describe what it looks like for me, tell me how your using it."
With a frustrated sigh, he responds, "Well, I hold the mouse, and move the ball with my thumb, and click on the buttons, just like you're supposed to!"
The dumb ass was holding a normal trackball mouse in his hand, upside down, and moving the ball with his thumb. I got him on mute as fast as I could... both me and the other techs, and everyone else who had gathered, burst out in cries of pain and agony.
2 days later, I quit... that was just too much.
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I vote for NAG as being the reincarnation of Nostradamus.
"One touch of Darwin makes the whole world kin." George Bernard Shaw
I can't believe nobody's done a "Rip. Mix. Burn" gag yet.
Come on slashdot, get it together!
Tim
Up until today I thought I had the worst G4 Powerbook story. I dropped it and cracked it into pieces the day after I bought it. (Yes the day after). It's at the Apple repair depot right now. But this story makes me feel like a much more intelligent individual.
radio76.com y'all.
It's not that unusual to put electronics in the oven. My now 2 year old son dropped my Philips pronto remote into the bathtub one evening. After I stopped crying, since I figured it was toast anyway I placed it in the oven on the lowest heat. I left it in for 20 minutes, and then took it out to cool off and kept repeating. After a couple of cycles....viola!!...it worked again. It has been going ever since.
"But I can't get an ocean that's deep enough for my day..." ~The Frames, "Fitzcarraldo"
My guess is she wanted to become a nerd and somehow got the equation overclocking = heat wrong...
There are fewer illiterates than people who can't read.
i'm not surprised this was someone with a macintosh.
For the clueless, by the clueless
Around 1990, my friend Jeff Byers (later head of tech support for Telix at deltaComm) was sitting in the old basement computer lab at Illinois Central College, when a one of the lab staff, for no particular reason, cut up a 5.25" floppy disk with scissors and inserted the pieces into the floppy drive in the next computer over. When someone asked him why he did that, he just shrugged and said "I don't know" and went back to what he was doing. A couple days later, the computer was gone.
While I know he probably didn't mean it as such, it certainly seems a little sleezy. "Hey, this system's screwed, and will cost a loit to fix... so you might as well leave it with us and go buy a new one." Then he installs a new OS on it and runs it with a keyboard and external monitor?
This just seems wrong to me for some reason. I hope he at least showed how she could use it again without buying an entire new system.
I demand a million helicopters and a DOLLAR!
In Soviet Russia, Apple laptop bakes you!
Well maybe not Soviet Russia, just Sweden.
13 year old white supremacists are shitty web designers.
Because they're stupid. ;)
:)
;)) (Make that 3)
No seriously though it is pretty much a waste of time asking them because after you ask them they will start quizzing you on why it was a stupid thing to do. This is when all logic is tossed out the window.
Besides, if we made them see their errors... who would we have to laugh at?
(Do I get bonus points for using 2 emoticons in the same post?
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This is going to give me nightmares..... images of those keys "popping" off like popcorn, the distorted screen, melting .... melting........ Ohhhhhhhhh
She's lucky the battery didn't explode in her face.
Question: I wonder what effect those Lithium oxide fumes had on her.....
Then again, that might be a good way to make "literate", alphabet-stamped waffles.
I had a PC, and I put it in the oven, and like, baked it for a while, and like it went beep bloop buzz and then exploded. It was a bummer.. It ruined my stove, it was a really good stove too. So then I got a powerbook, and like, then when I baked that, it like bent a little, but still worked and stuff.
My name is Joe, and I'm a moron.
and I thought that that pc laptops could only burn your penus now this damn.
SCREW FLANDERS
I lost my house to a fire with my 366mhz celeron Emachines desktop. House burned to the ground, the emachines still boots to this day. that was 3 years ago.
400 degress is nothing.
I don't see what the confusion is over how she did it...this woman obviously has kids. My guess is in the 2-4 year old range.
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this story is an obvious hoax.
My reading, is that anybody who can walk into a store with an obviously fried (er, baked) $2500 box, and say with a straight face that she's got "a baked apple", has got to have a sense of humor.
I'm betting that she went home, and told her astonished friends.
OS Software is like love: The best way to make it grow is to give it away.
Little old lady was relieved that her Tibook was still working. It contained all her death metal MP3s and warez. My question is what she was doing with a Tibook in the first place? I reckon the oven story is a cover. More likely that she forgot to grab it when she burned out the car she'd just stolen.
Anything that I buy has to spend some time in the oven - especially things like computers.
If they can't pass that crucial test, then I see no reason to ever use and/or buy them again.
The sencond crucial test is urinating on them.
done AND done.
There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
The keys came off? Whatever happened to "it just works"? Bah. See if I ever buy an apple.
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calculating Pi. =)
(I know ten women like this customer, though. Think of how casual she was in saying her little "baked apple" thing. Didn't faze her much. This is a woman with serious money and no sense. She miplaces four cell phones a year, at least.)
It is unlikely that she is that kind of person... You should try being a little less judgemental.
Quoth the article:
We told her that the cost of the screen alone would be around $1000 if not more, so she... decided to leave the machine with us to discard of.
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The coolest voice ever.
Lets put them on the shuttle instead of the current heat shield
My wife works at Apple and she told me about this a few weeks ago. She came home and told me that she got a call exactly like this. The customer was wondering if this would be covered under warranty. Whatever.
is that people this stupid (or careless) can afford a new Powerbook G4...
The smell of a melting PowerBook is gross enough, but I would I'd imagine cats smell even worse after time spent in the oven.
There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
I bet she has a hax0r son who read /. daily.
Probobly saw something about overclocking and wanted to "test the limits" of the machine.
So he took his moms powerbook for a test.
Now he is not alowed to tuch his computer, and mom has SO ebarised of her son that she didn't want to say.
Or mom was just really dumb and figured she could eat the powerbook and get smart.
hmm... for fun I enjoy launching DDoS attacks against 127.87.42.5
Apple had a magazine ad for the Apple ][+ where a customer's office had a fire, and they brought the system back to Apple, and after exchanging the case/keyboard it worked fine!
This person should contact Apple...this would be a great "retro" ad!
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Maybe she went on holydays (planning not to take her powerbook with her), was concerned that the house might get burgled, and proceeded to hide the valuables: jewelry into the trash, bearer's share certificates among the old newspapers, apple into the oven, ...
Three weeks later, when she came back, she had all forgotten about these hiding places, took the trash out, threw the old papers into the chimney and pre-heated the oven for a pizza...
Say no to software patents.
And think, you would have had the COOLEST computer ever. Get a clear case to show off the crispy MOBO, and act all smug when you tell interested onlookers, "Aw, it was just a lightning strike. It works fine..."
-Looking for a job as a materials chemist or multivariat
Why I am reminded of those guys returning a rental car after taking it to a demolishion derby?
If the machine's data was recoverable, why didn't he ask her if she wanted it before formatting the hard drive? What if she had important work on it? I mean, I would hope she would have a backup, but...
Sounds like pretty crappy customer service if you ask me.
Cocoa!
Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week.
Total outlay: one shake-and-bake computer.
The story will get posted to hell and back, and may even make it to some mainstream newspapers.
I think it would be fitting and proper to let this thread degenerate into wild speculation as to why she did it...
I will start it off:
She hid the thing in the oven, planning on surprising her husband/kid/friend with the present of a computer at a later date. Several days later, she decides to bake something, and turns on the oven to let it heat up (you know how most recipies call for you to 'preheat the oven to 400 degrees' etc)...forgetting about the expensive 'apple pie' under the blowtorch.
Mystery solved...
Now, post your speculations!
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The more you explain it, the more I don't understand it. - Mark Twain
My view of Apple is quickly turning into a good runner up to Microsoft for "Least Favorite Giant Corporate Entity". They're still snubbing the next MacWorld in Boston and have now announced that they're going to snub MacWorld in NY. Their customer service stinks. I have a G4 TI notebook and when I pick it up sometimes it looses power. When I called it in for support their responce was that I "shouldn't be picking it up with the power on". ?!?!? Hello!!!! Do they not understand how their customers are sing their products?
If she was willing to just walk away from a $2500 machine, you don't think she's made of money?
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Maybe her kid was ticked at her.
Maybe I'm just being old-fashioned, but she left the computer behind because it was trashed. When this fellow found that the computer proper worked correctly, why didn't he call her up and offer to return it to her, perhaps for use as a desktop system, instead of formatting the drive and using it himself? That's still her computer, and if it still works he's not very professional just to keep it. Remember, she left the Mac with them so they could discard it, so it's reasonable she'd want it back if she knew it worked.
Virg
It's one of the shuttle astronauts laptops.
Return it to NASA promptly!
don't have a metal(titanium) frame like powerbooks do.
I think it would be a lot more impressive, if a lot less functional.
You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
Nerds don't do this.
:)
Oh, now I get it. Ok, Apple users do it. Sorry!
I would have told the Apple store to keep it as well.
For the $1,500 that she would have paid to have it fixed (screen, keyboard, cleaning, and labor), she could have easily bought an iBook that was nearly as fast as her old G4.
Before I became an engineer, I worked as a Deskside Service Rep in one of the buildings on our site as an intern. The guy I worked with told me about the employee who won the "no common sense" award from our team.
The previous winter, the support guys started learning of people leaving their laptops in their cars over the winter. When they brought them inside for work the next day and booted them, condensation began to form everywhere. So an email went out telling people to let their laptops warm up to room temperature before turning them on, so that the ocndensation wouldn't short anything out.
Well one woman on the team was in a rush one morning and decided to expedite things by throwing her laptop in the microwave down the hall. It didn't fare as well as the baked Apple. Apparently when they opened it up and tried turning it on afterwards, they found that the LCD display had melted somehow and was running down the back of the screen.
Sad part is, they actually gave her a replacement laptop.
..the solar rig here is complex. there's two redundant large arrays that feed two seperate battery banks, those goto the main house on the estate where I live. (we the po folks do the grunt work here). I pull a 15 amp AC feed from a sub panel installed off the smaller of the two arrays. that is now underground inside conduit, heh. The inverters themselves use the grid for AC-1 in, and there's a diesel genny for AC-2 in, so there's plenty of options. My own personal rig is three panels and a charge controller going to 4 storage batts with a strict 12 volt system, that runs the lights and some other jazz in here (an RV) and my smaller old powerbook 280c which is my "storm" throw away computer now if anything happens to it. I haven't seen any problems with the hard drives yet, or any weird voltages problem. I manually set the options menu on the inverters pretty high so they kick over if the voltage starts to drop. Those batteries are expensive so we do whatever is possible to keep them as full as possible and only do real shallow cycling. Also added de-sulphators which apparently work quite well, at least the electroylyte got a lot cleaner visually and they seem to be in almost new condition still.
some pics are online of the main stuff. Go to the middle of the page, mountain top in georgia pics.
For me the brain that baked this powerbook is the guy who posted this article.
It's unlikely that someone who spent a lot on a brand-new powerbook g4 would probably burn it in the oven. I guess this powerbook was already dead and the guy then "baked" it so it could make a fun slashdot story.
And more: Why the lady left that very expensive thing there? Only because the guy said it had no salvation? Unlikely.
Come on.
this is too funny, i know this girl! i saw the laptop a few weeks ago, in good working order, she told me about the case warping and said something to the extent of _titanium shouldn't warp_
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it's getting hot in here ... so take off all your keys.
--ok, -1 for saying "pooter", but I get a +1 for NOT saying "boxen", so it cancels.....
heh heh heh
A few years ago when I was doing desktop/laptop support I came accross something similar.
One day my manager hands my a laptop and a ziploc bag full of keyboard keys, and instructs me to repair as quickly as possible, to ask no questions and return it to him.
Upon closer examanination the keys they we are melted and distorted. So I removed the hard drive and placed it anothewr usit and returned it as instructed.
Later on I found out the whole story. It was lucky that the hard drive was not damaged, as water (or some liquid) was spilled on a laptop (Toshiba 650CDT if it matters) and a hair dryer was used to dry it out. Apperantly the the user was interrupted while doing this so he set the hair dryer down on the keybaord to tkae a call. Hence the melted keys...
So what's the twist, turns out the laptop belongs to a Senior Director of our company. Why did he decide on the hair dryer method? Apperently he was in a hotel and was advised by two other to do so, the CIO and IT Director of our company!!!!!
i have walked down train tracks, walked down train tracks, drunk at 3 a.m. it not magic, it's no great trick, w
Darnit. She got it backwards. When you overclock your computer, you're supposed to put it in the freezer.
Hmmm yup.
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I suggest they rename their objective-c API from Cocoa to Cinnamon.
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Well.. i dont have an apple to bake.. but i still got my Windoze cd...
My mom used to make wire wound resisters and would on occation, have to bake them to get them into tolerance. Short of melting, I don't see how any other critical parts would be effected. Also, I would imagine that any modern computer would use resistors that would be unaffected by heat.
Also, those who listen to NPR are probobly aware of Northern Michigan University's Laptop Initiative Program where students pay way too much for a POS laptop. After a breif stint in late 2001 early 2002, art students were allowed to choose to get a laptop from Apple instead. By the end of the laptop distribution in Fall 2002, 300 Apples were DOA, while only 12 of the IBMs had any problems. But in Apple's defense, more IBMs of NMU's 2001 model have been KIA. But one must also keep in mind, those have also been around for an extra year.
....been wanting to make a router/firewall from one of these old pentium one serious junkers I got kicking around, partly for that purpose of physical protection. Just been lazy and need to figure out where to put the thing, about ran out of room in my RV "office" here. Office is I took the front passenger seat out, all my stuff is crammed in there.
Of course, I was going to use one of those runs on a floppy drive router things, but reading the poll thread I see I won't be 1337 and "cool" if I admit to even owning a floppy, so......
Apple has a danged clear set of policies about dealing with customers -- you don't ridicule and you don't bitch
So you can't ask a question without ridiculing or bitching?
How about "Can you tell us why it was in the oven?"
A few years ago on a hot summers day one of the sysadmins at the company I worked for warned the CEO that using his laptop for too long might cause it to overheat. A few hours work later the CEO solved this problem by putting the laptop in the freezer. This cured the overheating, but in a more permanent fashion than he had presumably hoped for...
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I had a Commodore C-16 in my ill-spent youth that survived a fire in our house. I had to re-case it and replace the molten key-caps with those from an old VIC-20 I had in bits, but it still worked...
Resistance is futile. Reactance buggers it up.
While sitting here thinking of a believable reason of "why" this person would bake a mac ... I suddenly remembered an article about 10 years ago that appeared in PC Computing Magazine. Basically, they took a bunch of laptops, perhaps 10 different models, and did this kind of stuff to 'em to ween out the toughest laptop. They threw 'em off buildings, put 'em in the oven, dumped water on 'em, left 'em outside in the freezing cold over-night, etc. I don't remember how it all turned out, but some of the laptops survived. Maybe this woman was inspired somehow.
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the other being a paper wieght or non-connectivity device
this is kinda like rotten.com for machines. Cute, but disturbing.
She was just upset that the G4 doesn't run hot enough.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
Did she try calling any of them when she realised they were missing?
What does one do with a "found" cellphone anyway? Is there no ID (can't remember what the phone's unique xmit ID is called...) check done when registering an existing phone with a carrier?
GTRacer
- Cellphones suck anyway...
Defending IP by destroying access to it? That makes sense, RIAA/MPAA. Go to the corner until you can play nice!
Perhaps I'm showing my age here, but I saw a similar story in an ad for Apple some years ago. The headline also read Baked Apple and showed a picture of a really toasted computer. In this case though, it appears that the computer in question had been at the center of a small house fire, but once again, it still worked and only needed a new case and keyboard.
Only, the computer wasn't a Mac. It was an original Apple II.
I'll bet you dollars to donuts this is how it happened: A lot of people get the bright idea to hide their valuables in the oven. They either forget that they've done this, or forget to inform their housemates that they've done this. Then, somebody gets a hankerin' for a frozen pizza, and preheats the oven....
I mean, I know the PowerBook G4 gets pretty hot when it's running, but mine's never done /that!/ ;D
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Sounds like a career limiting move.
How long did that job last anyways?
About a year ago, I spilled an entire mug of steaming hot coffee (with cream and sugar) into my PowerBook G4 while it was running. My first thought was that I had just ruined a $2500 computer.
I immediately unplugged the machine and removed the battery. I then proceeded to completely disassemble the machine into its constituent components. I washed the pieces individually in distilled water using a soft-bristled toothbrush to get in all of the nicks and crannies. The only pieces that I didn't wash were the display, hard drive, and Airport card.
I gave the pieces a final rinse in distilled water and then baked them in the oven for 30 minutes at 175 degrees (F). The idea was to cause all of the water to evaporate out of the components. Since it was distilled water, I was hoping that it wouldn't leave any deposits or residue behind.
I reassembled the machine, held by breath, and hit the power button... It worked and continues to work properly to this day.
--my pooter and I poot in your general direction, trollish1. neener neener. cya
Having done support for apple I can say this "typical apple customer"
Nuff said.
It might have been nice to offer to save the lady's data before blowing it away. (Maybe she left too quickly...)
Having done support for Apple I can say this (I earned that right) "Typical Apple Customer"
"If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied."
I'm wondering if this is not an act of revenge on an ex-husband/boyfriend. She may have decided to take some of her ex-hubby's possessions and destroy them to oblivion - or put them in the over knowing they wouldn't make a nutricious meal.
Oh god! Do you know what this means???? That asswipe Valenti was right! Digital data is forever!
We must shut Apple down now as they're stuff is too good and is making Valenti's claims truthful!
Easy answer... YES.
Becuase the answer will just hurt your brain even more that seeing what they did.
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wow, how retarded. nerds really care about this, huh?
Dude, I was like... Imaging a beowulf cluster of ovens running OS X... and then the oven's all like, 'bake, bake, bake, bake...'
Somehow, I think she was covering up for one of her teenaged sons who had just watched American Pie and stopped listening after the "hot apple" part of the line.
If true, that poor Powerbook may have other damage I don't want to think about.
"she says i'm lousy conversation. as if that's supposed to help."
'nuff said
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No, I don't know anyone who would do something that dumb. Er, where did I put the mail?
It's a cookbook! It's a cookbook!
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
You know, I've heard such stories, but alas the toughness of the TiBook does not impress me. I work in an all-Apple lab, and we've gone through several. A small fall (from a chair onto carpeted floor) cracked one on the IR port side..(there's still a LOT of thin plastic besides the Ti underside and lid) and I had to superglue bits of the chassis together. Alas, the amazing heat the things give off didn't make it easy on the bonds, and the thing cracked in that area again. The paint famously flakes off the titanium (wasn't that one impetus for them switching to the new aluminum alloy?). And ALL the TiBooks we've had end up with slight warping of the screen so that they no longer close flush. Thank god for the magnetic latch, or the one I currently use wouldn't close. My advisor handles his kinda roughly (not baking it in a frickin' oven, but shoving it in and out of backbacks) and cracked the screen....
And we've had other issues...Yet a different TiBook's LCD screen up and died. The one with cracked screen came back from Apple repair with a right speaker that didn't work.
And the power supplies? Easy prey to fray. You unwind the flying saucer enough times, and suddenly there's not so much insulation down near hub of the spool.
Structurally, they just don't feel or perform as solidly under normal (i.e. not baking) wear-and-tear as they look in my experience. I've handled a few of the new iBooks for an extended period, and now there's one tough cookie. On the other hand, the power supply plug on my sister's iBook barely stays in the chassis jack...and that CD tray is just waiting to snap off (to say nothing of its horrible position).
Well, having said all that, the machines and the OS are an unmitigated joy to use, but not so impressed with the ruggedness of the PowerBooks. Maybe the Albooks will be tougher?
No one asked her because its a freaking publicity stunt ya bunch of freaking idiots.
There are wayy too many idiots in the world. Period.
...did we as a whole ever evolve out of the swamps???
I really do need to step up my efforts vis a vis setathome so I can finally get off this goshforsakenrock!
Quod scripsi, scripsi.
I ran across a client who excalimed that there was a problem with his 'starter chip'. Apparently, the battery had run out, and as those with Apple experience know, the most frequent symptom of a bad battery is a blank screen; the blank screen goes away with a warm reboot. So, as I watched in horror, the client showed me what he was doing: just after the computer started up, while it was on, he removed the RAM SIMM, and plugged it back in. Recoiling from the shock of having its RAM torn out and plunked back in, the computer restarted. The client, of course, was disturbed that 'this seemed to work less and less often lately'. Either the computer gods, or the patron saint of the feeble-minded, had clearly been smiling on him...
well, actually of a VCR -- it's probably a bit of a setup/planned video, but set to look like tape from a surveilance camera. This is a german site with some, well, odd stuff on it [perfect for the slashdot crowd] but go to nu-rock and scroll down to the video/ burning-recorder.mpeg to see what I'm talking about
She probably thought it was a safe place to hide a valuable item. Later she wanted to bake cookies, forgot the laptop was in the oven, preheated it, uh...you know the rest.
-- Boycott Shell
Do any of you think that laptops from any other vendors would have survived that computer-hell for 20 minutes and *still* function at all? I think it's absolutely incredible that a company can produce a piece of hardware that can stand up to that. Obviously a plastic LCD is going to fry, but it appeared mostly functional.
:-)
Anyone get the feeling that Apple did this through an anonymous employee expecting news to spread through the geek community? I certainly would regard Apple laptops as "rugged" from now on.
Why bother.
Didn't apple release study results suggesting apple users, while they can't figure out how to nivigate a PC, are "brighter" than the rest of us on average? Well I'll serve this one up as Exibit A against that!
I had the same problem with my ti book. It's apparantly a problem with the early models, simply fixed with the insertion of a plastic shim.
whoever told you not to pick up your laptop wasn't firing on all cylinders, take it into your local repair centre.
Are you in the guinness book of records?
Ok, he has pictures, but it wouldn't be that hard to generate those. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it sounds like a really bizarre thing to do, and a bit weird that he didn't try to get an explanation out of her. But, who knows.
. . . is nothing compared to the boundlessness of stupidity.
It's only funny until someone gets hurt. Then, it's hilarious.
If that was the case then she probably would have thrown it out the window when she was done to make it go fast enough.
I've actually seen this happen before. Placing a laptop, cell phone, pager, etc in the oven on 'warm' is a good way to dry it out if you get it wet (a hairdryer also works). With most ovens it is possible to keep your laptop warm enough to allow water to evaporate, yet not so hot that it melts.
However sometimes people take this little tip too far. They decide to speed up the process (which should actually take hours) and they end up with broiled-notebook-surprise.
"Things are more moderner than before- bigger, and yet smaller- it's computers-- San Dimas High School football RULES!"
Thats all I want to know.
I'm married, and my wife watches these 'women' shows that teach you everything from: how to make really pretty ornamental flower arrangements from tissue paper (unused of course) to how to dress like martha stewart. Anywho, I saw on one of these shows where the lady was explaining that if you're in a big hurry -- guests coming over and all -- and trying to get the house in order quickly, just toss dirty dishes, or whatever is laying out that you want out of site, into the oven.
I'm convinced that's what causes this sort of thing. You forget all about having the items in the oven, and, later, while preheating to cook a that roast, something starts smelling funny....
"All great things are simple & expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope." --Churchill
Ligaguinggligagiggagoogoogwillgo
We told her that the cost of the screen alone would be around $1000 if not more, so she decided to leave the machine with us to discard of. Before we tossed it in the trash, I decided to try and power it up just for kicks, and it worked!
So give it back to her! Otherwise it's as bad as stealing.
This is fraud. I know, I know, blame me of troll or what ever. This is an old urban legend. Can't us see that pictures were created with image manipulation?
(Melted LCD looks totally NOT real, and checks those
melted keys. Some of them look like they have melted EXACTLY (pixel per pixel) same way, and that's makes picture quite suspicious!)
And this case just adds the oil: perhaps whole PB motherboards can fly, not only Motorolla chips.
I know some small kiosk vendor, who used to build their products on old PB motherboards. Unfortunately, they have mostly moved to Intel notebook motherboards because many customers want wintel-compatible 3rd-party applications. If not that - they would still prefer Apple powerbook motherboards to mount on street walls.
Less is more !
please excuse my mistake.
You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
Well, I've always thought that Macs were overpriced, underpowered pices of junk designed for people without a clue who just wanted a computer that went well with their curtains.
But now that I know it can be baked in the oven and still work, well, I just have to buy one. This is the sort of thing Apple should invest in. Who cares about price or performance? Who cares about an OS that doesn't treat you like you're retarded? No, what people really want is computers they can bake.
"...What does one do with a "found" cellphone
anyway? Is there no ID..."
You dispose of all Identifiers on it check the street price and either sell it or if its better than yours put a new sim card in it. At least thats what most people would do - reasoning If you were careless enough to lose your cellphone you dont deserve to own it.
Oh yeah - one more thing - you can Call your friend in china or australia - just make sure you keep moving.
Thats what hapened to a friend of mine anyway. => thats what people do when they find a cellphone unatended.
...removed it from the kiln but then it end up getting trampled on by a herd of wild elephants. Well, I thought the hurricane and being blowed up woulda finished it off but gol'dang it the little feller booted into osX like a charm. I tells you these Apple computers sure take a lickin and keep on tickin'. Guh. Drool.
maybe it had ants in it?
Keep your packets off my GNU/Girlfriend!
For starters, you analogy is flawed. Fixing a laptop involves replacing defective parts with new/refurbished ones. It's also easy to detect what's defective and what's not. Physicians don't work this way.
And what sort of "extra information" would you like to know? There's nothing else to say about how the laptop got damaged, only *why*. And knowing why it was put in the oven won't help you fix the problem.
And by the way, I don't have a problem with sharing stories, but I _do_ have a problem with people not minding their own business.
Check the pictures guys. It's very obvious that they did a screen swap to a lower body. This whole thing is a huge fake. Want proof?
Check all the pictures labeled warped screen. You will notice two things. Their is a plastic IR cover to the right and an RCA plug to the left. Both are made from the same plastic as the keys of the keyboard, which if you remember correctly completely deformed in the oven.
Both of these peices of plastic show NO deformity. Also the white plastic of the RCA plug has not even turned brown at all. This is a total fake.
Papa Legba come and open the gate
The screenshots show it running MacOS 9.1; i don't think any new machines have shipped with 9.1 since summer '01 or earlier, which probably makes this an original-rev PowerBook G4. It may be 2 years old, and only 400MHz... Which is not to say one will have a hard time finding a home for it, but may explain why she was willing to accept having to replace it (especially if she was in a store with the new ones staring right at her!).
baked apple is alright. maybe she should have grilled and then boiled it?
This incident could have been prevented had the lady thought to make use of the 44oz. cup of soda sitting on top of her CD-ROM beverage holder to cool her Apple.
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CHORUS:
My Powerbook is baking in the dark,
The backlit logo's turning brown,
Someone left the 'Book out in the rain
I never thought it'd take it
But someone thought to bake it
And I'll have rip those MP3's again
Oh, no!
R: That voice. Where have I heard that voice before? B: In about 365 other episodes. But I don't know who it is either.
not only did she put the wrong apple in the pie, she didn't make any crust!?!?
- anyway
i have always known that apple's hardware was of a high quality, but wow.
Did all of you see what it did to the screen?! Whoa, that has to be the best case mod ever!!!
That would be funny it the PowerBook G4 wasn't such an effective lap warmer.
Oh really, are you implying that WE are dumb? Then get off /. it is our "dumb" property.
POst not intended to be offensive, simply informative. Posted as anonymous for karma reasonZ.
He probably put together a machine from the parts of other dead powerbooks and threw it in the oven.
Realizing that everyone would call him a moron, he blamed some woman and got himself on slashdot.
Doesn't everyone here want to get on slashdot?
Now if it was a Windows machine that would be :
The Russians have won. They have made the world a cesspool of distrust, greed, fear and hate.
...An old Apple ad from the early early 80s. It showed an Apple II (or some such device) that had been through a fire and still operated. Anyone else remember that one?
Mmmmmm... Bold, yet refreshing!
..try as I might I just can't seem to get my normal leet bubbaebonics normal speech pattern down into type form... oh well, anywho....
maybe make everyone on slashdot use klingon as a universal esperanto? And then it would be klingon written as 1337 5p34|
Nothing beats the feeling of being proven wrong, huh? :)
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melted part of the plastic backing the screen.
You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
I was working in retail on Saturday morning and I got a call. Customer on the other end insisted that the t-shirt transfer paper (iron on stuff) we sold her earlier had broken her (inkjet) printer. I asked a few questions, and it eventually became clear that this oh-so-intelligent individual attempted to feed a t-shirt with the paper over it through the printer, assuming that that was how the transfer worked, and got stuck in the rollers. Suffice to say, she got put on hold and I had a really good laugh.
But Maaa! Everyone else has a
One possible explaination might be that she had spilled water on the laptop and put it in an oven to dry it out.
My father accidently poured a glass full of Coke into an Amiga 500 (this was years ago FYI). He rinsed the whole motherboard off with water then placed it in the oven to dry it off. The pilot light kept the tempature in the oven around 40C.
The fix worked perfectly. A few months later, the same computer was filled once again with Coke (my fault this time).
So once again, he washed it and put it in the oven. Unfortunatly my mother decided to bake some cookies. So she turned the oven on to preheat it and went about making the dough. About 10 minutes passed when my dad realized what she had done. He removed the Amiga from the oven. Its case was warped and the floppy drive face was useless due to the melting. Amazingly enough it still worked as well. Though it did rock back and forth when you typed on it after that and the FDD was connected via a cable and sat on the outside of the case.
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I made a post about this earlier but it must be some where modded down. This "story" IS COMPLETE FAKE. Look at picture with "melted buttons" VERY carefully. For example, compare SHIFT-buttons. They are warped EXACTLY the same way, only in the other one bumps are made look different by just little Photoshop(or similar) effect! You can easily spot numerous other identically melted buttons. Natural, I don't think so! Also note the ABSENCE of SHADOWS, or at least the highly unnatural way the buttons are "piled" on each other! And look that LCD screen! I won't try it myself (melt an LCD screen), BUT I BET YOU, that MELTED LCD won't BE that SHINY after being in 400 degree oven!
/.!
Q.E.D. Fake, fake and fake. I don't want to read about these kind of "publicity stunts" from
She is now in her late 40s to early 50s. Her name is Alice. B Toklas. And I love her. And yes she has brownies.
It's the feeling you are experiencing right now.
Feel good?
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1. Hopped up on goofballs.
2. While enjoying the thrill of her apple in the kitchen, her husband, an MCSE walks in...
3. While hiding her valuables from possible burglary, she sticks her jewelry in the freezer, her Apple in the oven, and her PC in the middle of the living room floor.
4. "Honey, check out this p0rn site! Its HOT HOT HOT!"
6. She lights her husband's cigars with $100 dollar bills. She lights her oven with an Apple.
7. Goofed up on hop balls.
"Look! There! Evil, pure and simple from the Eighth Dimension!" --Buckaroo Banzai
I have heard other people put stuff in the oven for this reason. Then they turn on the oven.
I saw a baked Compaq Armada like this. But then, it didn't get stolen.
It still worked fine after 10 mins at 180C in a fan-forced oven. If you do this, take off the ON knob.
I'd like to see comparative tests for Intel and AMD baked this way (as opposed to removing the heat sink). Let's see the Intel try and cool off by lowering the clock speed now.
A friend of mine did something similar. At a company I worked at we were trying to qualify a phy chip for a NIC card. One of the things we tested was response to temperature. In one of our labs we had an environmental chamber which was extremely well insulated. Anyway, my friend had the PC running in the chamber with the light on and forgot and left it running over a weekend. On monday morning, anything plastic on the computer was melted, including the CDROM drive. Amazingly enough, the computer was still running. My friend replaced the case and melted CDROM drive and continued to use the system for quite a few more months without any problems. The rest of us wouldn't touch his hardware for some reason.
This post is encrypted twice with ROT-13. Documenting or attempting to crack this encryption is illegal.
``...architectural fancy-type thing...''
``[if Iraqi officers follow Saddam's orders, when the war is over, they] will be tried, held, and persecuted!''
Guess who said these.
None other.
What's his secret? I don't think I could talk like this if I tried.
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Who started mumbling about "Fahrenheit in the article"? IRMC.
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I've heard of people dropping their old battery (non-rechargeable) powered Palm Pilots in the toilet when they leaned over to flush. The restoration process went something like this:
1) Remove batteries/power supply.
2) Disassemble Case.
3) Rinse everything out with Distilled water.
4) Put it all in a warm and dry environment for a few hours to dry everything out. (I think the original reccomendation was an Oven set at 100-150 F for 2-3 hours)
5) Reassemble and voila, all that nasty urine residue is gone and your PDA should continue to work.
You know, she probably got the darned thing drenched (spilled a soda or water on it, or perhaps left it out on the patio when it started raining) and wanted to dry it out before powering it up again. Unfortunately, screwing up on the Temperature setting ain't healthy for any laptop. Heck, anyone know what the max temperature a LCD scheme will tolerate?
DaveC
There are no stupid questions...just stupid people.
mmm baked apple...
Water, water everywhere so let's all have a drink-Homer Jay Simpson
A woman thought the OnScreenDisplay on her monitor was the Start Menu. I just about cracked up laughing on the floor, I hope she didnt' hear.
I guess thats what happens when you expressly market toward people who dont understand computers, and by golly, dont want to. ever.
Manipulate the moderator system! Mod someone as "overrated" today.
Only stupid apple users can make myths like this and think we'd swallow it. Look at it, the article and site does not provide ANY contact info, it might just as well come from the ass of a fellow Anonymous Coward. Seriously people, think credibility, and think how fantatic these stupid MAC people are.
The baked apple story has surfaced 3 times as far as I can remember. Back in 89, there was a baked apple story on the Well, about how some lady had tried to warm her apple laptop after it was left out, during a move. And guess what.. the apple worked (no contacts though).
In 1992 (or 3), there was small burb about a burning apple that works, some guy lit an apple comptuer on fire then booted it up and composed an e-mail and saved it on the floppy before ejecting it out (this was shown on tv -- but later it was found to be faked).
Take the pic into Photoshop (or the GIMP) and rotate some of those keys so they're oriented the same way. A distortion pattern from Photoshop 7.01 was used, almost certainly.
Don't have the time? Follow the parent's advice and take a look at the Shift keys.
It's a fake.
Apple laptops are effectively unusable for unix users.
I am a long-time Unix user. That means I need to have the Ctrl key to the left of the A key. This is a genuine need, not merely a want; it is based upon ergonomics. The Ctrl key is heavily used in unix, and it must be easily accessable. It cannot be off in the lower left corner of the keyboard where it is difficult to get at, and where it distorts the position of your left hand such that you can't easily type other keys while holding the Ctrl key down.
Apple desktop keyboards are now all USB. They are all OK. The CapsLock key can be re-mapped into a Ctrl key.
Unfortunately, even in this modern age, all Apple laptops have built-in ADB keyboards. The ADB keyboard is broken-by-design. It is, in general, not possible to remap the CapsLock key into a Ctrl key.
There are some exceptions, but they are horrible kludges. They are horrible kludges because the original design of the ADB keyboard was a horrible kludge. The correct solution would be for Apple to re-design their laptop motherboards to use built-in USB keyboards. This hasn't happened yet. If you run Linux, use Debian's solution. For Mac OS X users, uControl works. There are no solutions (that I know of) for either NetBSD or OpenBSD. Please note once again that the "solutions" above are in fact kludges, because of the original bad design of the ADB keyboard.
Apple provides a technical note on how to remap the keyboard, but provides no solution to the hardware problems caused by the design of the ADB keyboard. This tech note helps foreign language users, but does nothing for the CapsLock/Ctrl problem.
Apple is (currently) ignoring Unix users! This is not merely speculation on my part. In an on-going email exchange I am having with an Apple employee (whom I won't name) in their marketing department, the Apple marketing person directly stated to me that Apple was catering to their historic Mac customers, and is purposely ignoring the Unix market. He also claimed that Apple would soon start paying more attention to the Unix market. I won't hold my breath. Apple has been ignoring Unix users for more than 12 years. I expect that trend to continue.
Apple has now lost two opportunities to sell me hardware. I really wanted an Apple laptop for their superior battery life, and for the PowerPC with Altivec CPU. (The Altivec is vastly superior to the x86 line for DSP.) Because I can't live with the broken-by-design built-in ADB keyboard in all Apple laptops, Sony and IBM sold me laptops instead. If Apple fixes this problem, they will sell me a PowerBook next year; if they don't, I'll still be running OpenBSD on x86 hardware, and wishing I could use a Mac.
Apple notebooks are not exactly cool-running. The 12" powerbook gets DAMN hot. My iBook gets very warm on the left (hard drive) side as well.
you know, Ive heard the "Cup Holder" Story a million times too... but Ive fielded one of those myself...
And one case where the computer had caught fire...
And one case where the surge protector wasnt pluged in... "Is the computer pluged in", "Well yes...".... well NO!!!
And one case, I shit you not, where a guy took a hack saw to a PCI video card to make it fit in an AGP slot...
Ive seen much of the darker side of the tech support field... its not pretty...
The Code Ninja is swift with his tool, precise in his delivery, and deadly accurate in his execution.
But the screenshot also *looks* like it's a PowerBook Ti of sorts. Or do you mean the original-rev PowerBook Ti?
:)
I'm just a little confused, will appreciate a clarification
So I put my computer in the oven,
and it was like "crackle, crackle crackle"
And then, like, half of my computer was gone,
And I was like "unhh"
If you don't understand any of my sayings, come to me in private and I shall take you in my German mouth.
>Am I the only one for whom this conjures up images of Shrinky Dinks?
Yes, Yes you are.
Seriously.It's funny and all but don't you think this is just another marketing trick from Apple?A rep from Apple dropping off a baked apple and everyone spreading the news. I'm not saying it's a bad trick.It's almost like those articles on Microsoft site about people switching to microsoft.
"I used to have that really cool,funny sig
Bzzt.
Look at the left side of the screen. That's the OS/X Dock.
This reminds me of my employer, a very intelligent gentleman. One day, a hard disk present in a very expensive industrial computer crashed. Its contents were VERY important and my employer ignored my suggestions, for YEARS, that he should make occasional backups of data around his facility. As there was no other copy of the necessary data, I was about to have it shipped to a data recovery specialist when my employer, not knowing about the possibility of recovery and figuring he had nothing to lose, put the hard drive in the microwave for a minute. There were cool lightning bolts. At that point, I simply threw the thing in the garbage because I didn't even want to waste the time to put the damn thing in a box and to mail it.
It's an IMEI number. And they only check for registered and blocked numbers. I don't know of any carriers that automatically register and lock the numbers (with one exception; subsidized pre-paid bundles with card and phone, those are locked to a specific carrier (but not to a specific card) for a period of time) - you'll have to send the number in and then block it yourself if the phone gets lost or stolen.
Money for nothing, pix for free
Maybe she is astroturfing.
She is paid to get an idea into areas of public debate. A few months ago, she was hanging around in bars, railway stations, shopping centres, talking into her mobile phone and saying "just take a look at the picture I'm sending you now, I just took it on my new mobile phone"...
This month, her job is te get us all to believe that PowerBooks are so robust, you can really mistreat them, and they still work.
She almost got the job of promoting Oracle's "unbreakable" slogan... Hey, maybe that could be given to the "crack a Mac" focus group...
I have a 500 MHz iBook, which can get warm if I use it on a surface with little air circulation (like on top of its carrying case on my lap), so I picked up a Cool Pad, which cured it completely, and is a neat swivel to boot.
A coworker of mine has a recent Dell laptop. I assume this thing is one of those "desktop replacement" atrocities, because it has two fans, each about an inch in diameter, firing out of the back of it. I've used them occasionally to warm my hands in cold meeting rooms. He only runs it on batteries long enough to find a wall outlet.
My iBook might have a fan - I wouldn't know, I've never heard it or felt any breeze from the vent holes near the screen hinge.
To a Lisp hacker, XML is S-expressions in drag.
Not only clairvoyant, but also strong in the ways of the dark side!
No sig for the moment.
I think there is an obvious explaination that no one here has posted - Her boyfriend left her, or she caught him cheating. Her first reaction - f*ck up his sh*t. Put his new PowerBook (spend more time with his computer than ME!) in the over for a while. Take it to the Apple store so she can say 'Wow, I tried to get it fixed, but they couldn't do it. Sorry.'
Serious mental illness, this.
This powerbook belongs to Linux Kernel Hacker and IBM ozlabs employee Rusty Russell.. the pictures don't do it justice of how bad it looks. I'm surprised it still worked...
Fortunatly I wasn't the one who actually screwed the board back in (I was working with a partner). Also, we were both co-ops and the machine was a test machine. It was still a rather nasty little incident, but it's not as uncommon as you might expect. When you're working with bleeding edge hardware, it is somewhat expected that the hardware will fail spectacularly once in awhile.
I read the internet for the articles.
My Apple support story....
Have an iBook, the lid latch broke (what GENIUS designed that flimsy metal hook to hook into a small plastic strip... Hook cut through the plastic within two months of normal use).
Called Apple saying the lid latch broke. They said they used to warranty the lid latch, but found that too many customers had the problem and it wasn't cost effective to warranty it, and thus they no longer honor warranty repair for the iBook lid latch. WTF, this can't be legal, changing the terms of the Warranty without the knowledge and consent of the customer who made the purchase under the old terms.
Later the plastic ring around the headphone jack broke (again, another ingenious design decision, not only do they use plastic for a headphone jack ring when every other device uses metal, but they *also* leave empty space between the plastic ring and plastic case just to make sure the damn ring breaks). Similarly, the plastic around the ethernet jack broke, but I'll let that slide as someone tripped over the ethernet cord. They at least will fix those two (and the frayed power cord).
I guess they get one point for repairing some 'cosmetic' damage other manufacturers wouldn't cover, but lose about 3 points for iBook plastic parts, and about 30 points for renigging on the warranty conditions...
XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
As any electron pusher knows, boards with chips should be baked at 190 deg. for three hours.
Keep it cool, damnit!