This is funny. Ubuntu is starting to get all high and mighty about the idealism behind free software. I thought that was one of the main reasons for (initially) splitting out from Debian.
If you want free software use Debian, if you want to be p0wned use Ubuntu. Sorry, but I think Ubuntu did Debian a disservice by spitting out rather than combining efforts to make Debian more of whatever it is people like about Ubuntu (other than non-free).
IceWeasel works fine, a one time EULA works fine too. I think if Ubuntu is going to be a pop distro, meaning they have a high level of brand recognition, then they had better stick with what brands people know, Firefox, and not try to get purist. It will only hurt the benefits they have realized via name recognition.
If you use the low power VIA chipsets like Eden you only have to dissipate under 10W of power, which these thermal goos could handle. But potting is very insulating compared to open air.
Don't forget the SSD. Standard hard drives won't handle any of this.
It might be useful to rethink the process and figure out what it is you are trying to address. Just moisture - conformal coating. Just vibration - make a better box? If you are strapping this to the outside of a Mercury outboard motor I would go with a better box.
I thought this was to run the new web apps that Chrome is supposed to be designed for. Finally I'll have a useful desktop browser.
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Speaking of purists...
The mobile devices you so quickly discard are becoming a major component of the revenue stream that accesses the internet. Discard them and you discard your customer base. And these mobile versions of websites are super lame.
I guess my question is this. Why should an application that is only half present on my desktop use more resources than most application that I run locally? The TCP/IP stack isn't that big. If it where then applications like Apache and Postfix would suffer horribly from memory use.
I fundamentally disagree with the idea that a browser is well designed if it can become a major consumer of resources so readily. Someone is going to have to convince me that if I run half and app it's OK to use more memory than the entire application.
What's broken? All the browsers? All the languages (HTML, JavaScript, CSS)? All the plugins?
There is a lot of truth in this statement. Adding Java to your arsenal gives you little if any advantage in a job. There are far too many other people in the world who do Java already. If you want to learn it, you can learn it by doing. But if you want to add it to your resume there's not much value to it.
I think Java is over rated. It's got a place in the world, but it's not the answer to everything.
I did not RTFA but I have one observation that really needs to be addressed by the United States of America.
The advancement and proliferation of rails tends to be limited to dense nations: Japan, England, must of Europe. The argument has always been that you can't do high speed rails in such a sparse nation as the USA.
But if China can take this on as a national project it will be interesting if the USA will be willing to let China take the initiative to set itself at the top of the high speed rails pyramid. A limited variation of the Space Race? Last I checked, China was pretty big and relatively sparse.
So do we accept the challenge as the super power or acquiesce the challenge to the new kid on the block? Of course, this may mean that we have to divert recovery funds from the automotive industry to the railroads. Might be an interesting debate.
You are confusing Perl with Regular Expressions. You don't understand Perl and you probably don't understand Regex either.
Many languages use Regexes and when you do, you quickly realize that what appears obscure speaks volumes and is completely independent of the langauge.
Ruby uses Regex, but they seperate the Regex from the language more than Perl. I don't like it - -it's too verbose, but it has it's reasons. But once you understand regex, you can start writing a lot of code in it because it's fast, accurate, and easy to use. But you have to actually understand the language of regular expressions first.
If you are good at your language, obfuscation is trivial. If you suck, it's all obfuscated code.
And what might be a simple closure to some may appear as obfuscation to others. I think most practical code that is used for business purposes is not obfuscated except to those who do not understand the language.
I have an NVidia something ancient on my computer. I'm not a graphics guy and this box is being reclassified as more server than anything else.
Fancy graphics cards that are a pain to use under Linux are not for me. NVidia has been nice but it's a pain to maintain between patches and it's quickly fallen into a pattern of not being supported. So I haven't really much need for this.
What I'm in the market for is a card that is of decent performance, readily supported by X (or is it XFree86?) and is a decent balance between costing less than all other components combined and actually doing something.
I'm aware of how badly someone might make of a review. But I'm curious about two things in Debian:
Is WindowMaker still supported?
Must you install KDE?
I've become a permanent fan of the ultralight interfaces and have found that the differences between WindowMaker and KDE are, for me, trivial at best. My opinion is strictly that a successful desktop will have the ability to serve the feature creature types who love KDE and Windows but also those who want to keep their clock cycles available for actually doing work.
I usually very quick to go pro-privacy but in this case I think there is an issue that FSF is missing.
Historical evidence indicates that the assault on privacy is far greater from internet resources than localized software. That's an evolutionary process that has been seemingly missed.
As for the issues with iPhones and ITunes. Over 95% of my music is burned from CD's. They still have better sound quality than an MP3 player and I still have a greater (sense) of ownership with a physical disk.
iPhones -- hell they can make whatever rules about it they want to. I won't care until they either, don't tell me that they are tracking my every move, or decide to change their policy after I've bought a contract. I've gotten into the habit of routinely turning my phone off but usually for the purpose of being polite to my surroundings and to save power.
I don't know, I'm more worried about the big internet companies who pull all my information togething into one point of information.
That's exactly what I was thinking. There's no point in having a database if you aren't doing anything more than File IO. Try to process 7G of data in a database and then try to do the same in a flat file. Flat files always win.
Databases help you find and organize the data. But if all you are doing is regurgitating HTML blogs then stick with something like Perl Template::Toolkit.
The long term concern will be the cost to use these charging stations.
By partnering up with the Utilities they may either do a Good Thing and make a great solution or they may be a Bad Thing and make charging your Volt so expensive that they actually kill the Volt and electric vehicles.
If GM tries to pull a Sony Beta and lock in the utility companies and the Volt you can bet your stocks that it will backfire and probably kill the company.
Very true. And add to that the consideration that the guy who actually knows his stuff isn't going to work for $25K annum. But the other guy is just full of that optimism that this is the Next Big Thing and he'll be sitting on a 100 foot yacht in 3 years.
When we see a problem, we tend to talk about it but generally ignore it. We assume someone else will be responsible enough to handle it or just pretend it doesn't exist. It's not bad enough to fix.
Anyone over the age of 10 in 1972 was keenly aware of what happens when gas becomes scarce and the mistakes that were made then. People were being shot for gas. Automobile manufacturers were going bankrupt (Chrysler) because they didn't think there was a problem ("America buys what we build" - GM) until the Japanese gave us a severe drubbing.
And at the same time there was an Indian on TV standing by the side of a road with garbage being thrown at his feet. Down Chemical (my hometown) was routinely creating record breaking fish kills and chemical spills that emptied the town.
Thirty some years later people are acting all surprised by this crap. And they want someone else to take the burden for it.
We, as a nation, will do NOTHING about pollution simply because we have no solution which will not have a potentially negative impact to our economy. This is consistent with capitalism. China has a hot economy and epic pollution problems. We are trying to compete with that and don't believe we can if we try to stay clean at the same time.
Perhaps the solution is to go in a different direction. Make oil-independence a science, technology, and industry that the US can export. And do the same with environmentally designed processes and products. China will kick our ass on many industries and we will never be able to compete with them unless we abolish the EPA. But eventually China and others will have to face the same problems -- energy is limited and pollution is real.
And there are about 10,000 other nations that have an socio-economic evolutionary path somewhere in between the US and China who would all be interested in these technologies being developed. So we might not be selling to China, but we can sell to Europe, Western Asia, Africa, and South America, Australia.. That's a good customer base.
But, this pollution regulation thing -- we are not going to fix it with the current government system. They don't have a real interest in it. We've done enough damage with the Bush years and yet it's likely we won't elect a winner this time either -- none available. Just compromises and shell games.
Well, I'm not so sure about all this whining about I can be fired at any moment because this kind of behavior has been around for far more decades than the internet. And the article isn't about people getting fired/hired.
What I do see is a growing problem of new software development becoming full of bad practices.
Old code example. Perl CGI. It's ancient and by modern terms considered a has-been. But it has some advantages: It's very well documented and it works very well. But it's not easy to write big fancy applications using CGI. So people say it sucks.
Moderate code example. Perl HTML::Mason. It's a better application platform than CGI that allows for people to start using real software to write real applications that do real things. It's very well documented and works.
Modern code example. Ruby on Rails. This is a fantastic platform for making applications very quickly with a lot of bells and whistles. But there is little documentation compared to prior platforms and precious little documentation for what it does.
So where is the crisis? When you use Rails you only know Rails. But you don't have good exposure to how to do Ruby, CSS, JavaScript. Case in point: Rails uses prototype and scriptolicious for JavaScript. These libraries are dependent upon Oject JavaScript, which is not trivial. But sooner or later, you get into a jam with Rails where you have to know now only JavaScript, but Objective JavaScript, and then prototype, and finally Rails. So in order to use any javascript that Rails is based on you have to be a pretty proficient user of JavaScript.
Multiply this by Ruby, HTML, CSS and you have a high investment in four core languages just to write a real application. So you have this entry barrier problem where some guy buys a book on Rails and becomes good enough to do something. But not something that can have any functional extension beyond what Rails can present.
The crisis is that you get a long ways in a few lines of code. And if something goes awry -- you have to know a hell of a lot about all the underlying languages. Each one of them can become a nearly full time job trying to keep up with.
Specialization will continue on the Rails level of focus. But you can't get an effective development team (can it be done alone anymore?) unless you keep a few core members who have great skills at one or maybe two of the underlying core components.
I don't think there is a solution to this until we can eliminate all the junk in these core components (HTML, CSS, JavaScript) so that writing code isn't such a complete pain in the butt. There's some evolution that has to happen out there.
Thank you for the information. I'm not familiar with Hep A as I've not contracted it lately...
But is it safe to say that anything that falls into the class of a Flu Virus can be considered ineffective after a few days?
I think it's also important to note that routine exposure to germs and virii do help the immune system. If you always sterilize your environment then the first time you use a public bathroom you will be in bed for a week.
One of the greatest preventative measures you can take is to just wash your hands with regular soap and water, no need for anti-bacterial stuff. And let your body do the rest. After all, the immune system has been under continuous improvements for a few million years now.
If you want to list effective Black and While films you must add Plan 9 from Outer Space.
Actually, no, it might suck even more if it had full color. It was so bad I had to watch it twice. I think it should be mandatory in film classes so people can understand two things:
What not to do when making a film.
How simple it can be to make an effect.
I found Metropolis years ago and found it to be a remarkably good story and being a non-talky film makes the message better.
I agree with you and it's rather trivial these days to manage the news and information from Microsoft. Just use the following rules:
Everything Microsoft says is a lie.
Everything that someone says wherein the message is "Microsoft == Good" is a paid for advertisement that eventually leads back to Microsoft. See rule 1.
And that's about it.
Microsoft has tons of cash and little pragmatic talent. As such, they are very slow to develop anything new in real terms but very adept at creating stories to the contrary. Just like any really fat company who's interest lies not in innovation, but protecting their territorial gains by whatever means necessary (legal, marketing, media).
Along with this, I'm sure you can find people who leave Google for their own reasons and people who work at Microsoft for their reasons. The companies are very different culturally and that will shape their decision on where to work.
You want top-down bureaucratic management or a more anarchistic bottom-up model you have to make a choice. Then there is always something in between.
I would hate to see it all mucked up with revenue dollars on advertisement. What would prevent YouTube from becoming exactly as broadcast television? Broadcast has been working under this model for 50 years and they have become so impotent, immaterial, and outright painful to watch that I don't think they, or anyone who emulates their business model has long for this world.
No, I think he gets 38 years of lock-up because he's exhibiting a pervasive, consistent, and intentional malicious behaviour well beyond trivial hacking.
I think because he's an immigrant he and his family stand a good chance of deportation and should. I think it is perfectly reasonable for the host nation to expect pristine behaviour and failing that you are clearly subject to deportation.
There isn't any poor victim here. He's someone who has those Machiavellian traits that might get him girls but not social acceptance. Either put him in prison or toss him out of the country.
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This is funny. Ubuntu is starting to get all high and mighty about the idealism behind free software. I thought that was one of the main reasons for (initially) splitting out from Debian.
If you want free software use Debian, if you want to be p0wned use Ubuntu. Sorry, but I think Ubuntu did Debian a disservice by spitting out rather than combining efforts to make Debian more of whatever it is people like about Ubuntu (other than non-free).
IceWeasel works fine, a one time EULA works fine too. I think if Ubuntu is going to be a pop distro, meaning they have a high level of brand recognition, then they had better stick with what brands people know, Firefox, and not try to get purist. It will only hurt the benefits they have realized via name recognition.
I want a shirt that says, "Protect your resources: Fork Off and Die"
If you use the low power VIA chipsets like Eden you only have to dissipate under 10W of power, which these thermal goos could handle. But potting is very insulating compared to open air.
Don't forget the SSD. Standard hard drives won't handle any of this.
It might be useful to rethink the process and figure out what it is you are trying to address. Just moisture - conformal coating. Just vibration - make a better box? If you are strapping this to the outside of a Mercury outboard motor I would go with a better box.
I thought this was to run the new web apps that Chrome is supposed to be designed for. Finally I'll have a useful desktop browser.
Speaking of purists...
The mobile devices you so quickly discard are becoming a major component of the revenue stream that accesses the internet. Discard them and you discard your customer base. And these mobile versions of websites are super lame.
I guess my question is this. Why should an application that is only half present on my desktop use more resources than most application that I run locally? The TCP/IP stack isn't that big. If it where then applications like Apache and Postfix would suffer horribly from memory use.
I fundamentally disagree with the idea that a browser is well designed if it can become a major consumer of resources so readily. Someone is going to have to convince me that if I run half and app it's OK to use more memory than the entire application.
What's broken? All the browsers? All the languages (HTML, JavaScript, CSS)? All the plugins?
There is a lot of truth in this statement. Adding Java to your arsenal gives you little if any advantage in a job. There are far too many other people in the world who do Java already. If you want to learn it, you can learn it by doing. But if you want to add it to your resume there's not much value to it.
I think Java is over rated. It's got a place in the world, but it's not the answer to everything.
I did not RTFA but I have one observation that really needs to be addressed by the United States of America.
The advancement and proliferation of rails tends to be limited to dense nations: Japan, England, must of Europe. The argument has always been that you can't do high speed rails in such a sparse nation as the USA.
But if China can take this on as a national project it will be interesting if the USA will be willing to let China take the initiative to set itself at the top of the high speed rails pyramid. A limited variation of the Space Race? Last I checked, China was pretty big and relatively sparse.
So do we accept the challenge as the super power or acquiesce the challenge to the new kid on the block? Of course, this may mean that we have to divert recovery funds from the automotive industry to the railroads. Might be an interesting debate.
You are confusing Perl with Regular Expressions. You don't understand Perl and you probably don't understand Regex either.
Many languages use Regexes and when you do, you quickly realize that what appears obscure speaks volumes and is completely independent of the langauge.
Ruby uses Regex, but they seperate the Regex from the language more than Perl. I don't like it - -it's too verbose, but it has it's reasons. But once you understand regex, you can start writing a lot of code in it because it's fast, accurate, and easy to use. But you have to actually understand the language of regular expressions first.
And you don't think you can do this in Ruby?
If you are good at your language, obfuscation is trivial. If you suck, it's all obfuscated code.
And what might be a simple closure to some may appear as obfuscation to others. I think most practical code that is used for business purposes is not obfuscated except to those who do not understand the language.
I have a question about Graphics Cards.
I have an NVidia something ancient on my computer. I'm not a graphics guy and this box is being reclassified as more server than anything else.
Fancy graphics cards that are a pain to use under Linux are not for me. NVidia has been nice but it's a pain to maintain between patches and it's quickly fallen into a pattern of not being supported. So I haven't really much need for this.
What I'm in the market for is a card that is of decent performance, readily supported by X (or is it XFree86?) and is a decent balance between costing less than all other components combined and actually doing something.
I'm aware of how badly someone might make of a review. But I'm curious about two things in Debian:
I've become a permanent fan of the ultralight interfaces and have found that the differences between WindowMaker and KDE are, for me, trivial at best. My opinion is strictly that a successful desktop will have the ability to serve the feature creature types who love KDE and Windows but also those who want to keep their clock cycles available for actually doing work.
I usually very quick to go pro-privacy but in this case I think there is an issue that FSF is missing.
Historical evidence indicates that the assault on privacy is far greater from internet resources than localized software. That's an evolutionary process that has been seemingly missed.
As for the issues with iPhones and ITunes. Over 95% of my music is burned from CD's. They still have better sound quality than an MP3 player and I still have a greater (sense) of ownership with a physical disk.
iPhones -- hell they can make whatever rules about it they want to. I won't care until they either, don't tell me that they are tracking my every move, or decide to change their policy after I've bought a contract. I've gotten into the habit of routinely turning my phone off but usually for the purpose of being polite to my surroundings and to save power.
I don't know, I'm more worried about the big internet companies who pull all my information togething into one point of information.
That's exactly what I was thinking. There's no point in having a database if you aren't doing anything more than File IO. Try to process 7G of data in a database and then try to do the same in a flat file. Flat files always win.
Databases help you find and organize the data. But if all you are doing is regurgitating HTML blogs then stick with something like Perl Template::Toolkit.
The long term concern will be the cost to use these charging stations.
By partnering up with the Utilities they may either do a Good Thing and make a great solution or they may be a Bad Thing and make charging your Volt so expensive that they actually kill the Volt and electric vehicles.
If GM tries to pull a Sony Beta and lock in the utility companies and the Volt you can bet your stocks that it will backfire and probably kill the company.
Very true. And add to that the consideration that the guy who actually knows his stuff isn't going to work for $25K annum. But the other guy is just full of that optimism that this is the Next Big Thing and he'll be sitting on a 100 foot yacht in 3 years.
When we see a problem, we tend to talk about it but generally ignore it. We assume someone else will be responsible enough to handle it or just pretend it doesn't exist. It's not bad enough to fix.
Anyone over the age of 10 in 1972 was keenly aware of what happens when gas becomes scarce and the mistakes that were made then. People were being shot for gas. Automobile manufacturers were going bankrupt (Chrysler) because they didn't think there was a problem ("America buys what we build" - GM) until the Japanese gave us a severe drubbing.
And at the same time there was an Indian on TV standing by the side of a road with garbage being thrown at his feet. Down Chemical (my hometown) was routinely creating record breaking fish kills and chemical spills that emptied the town.
Thirty some years later people are acting all surprised by this crap. And they want someone else to take the burden for it.
We, as a nation, will do NOTHING about pollution simply because we have no solution which will not have a potentially negative impact to our economy. This is consistent with capitalism. China has a hot economy and epic pollution problems. We are trying to compete with that and don't believe we can if we try to stay clean at the same time.
Perhaps the solution is to go in a different direction. Make oil-independence a science, technology, and industry that the US can export. And do the same with environmentally designed processes and products. China will kick our ass on many industries and we will never be able to compete with them unless we abolish the EPA. But eventually China and others will have to face the same problems -- energy is limited and pollution is real.
And there are about 10,000 other nations that have an socio-economic evolutionary path somewhere in between the US and China who would all be interested in these technologies being developed. So we might not be selling to China, but we can sell to Europe, Western Asia, Africa, and South America, Australia.. That's a good customer base.
But, this pollution regulation thing -- we are not going to fix it with the current government system. They don't have a real interest in it. We've done enough damage with the Bush years and yet it's likely we won't elect a winner this time either -- none available. Just compromises and shell games.
Well, I'm not so sure about all this whining about I can be fired at any moment because this kind of behavior has been around for far more decades than the internet. And the article isn't about people getting fired/hired.
What I do see is a growing problem of new software development becoming full of bad practices.
Old code example. Perl CGI. It's ancient and by modern terms considered a has-been. But it has some advantages: It's very well documented and it works very well. But it's not easy to write big fancy applications using CGI. So people say it sucks.
Moderate code example. Perl HTML::Mason. It's a better application platform than CGI that allows for people to start using real software to write real applications that do real things. It's very well documented and works.
Modern code example. Ruby on Rails. This is a fantastic platform for making applications very quickly with a lot of bells and whistles. But there is little documentation compared to prior platforms and precious little documentation for what it does.
So where is the crisis? When you use Rails you only know Rails. But you don't have good exposure to how to do Ruby, CSS, JavaScript. Case in point: Rails uses prototype and scriptolicious for JavaScript. These libraries are dependent upon Oject JavaScript, which is not trivial. But sooner or later, you get into a jam with Rails where you have to know now only JavaScript, but Objective JavaScript, and then prototype, and finally Rails. So in order to use any javascript that Rails is based on you have to be a pretty proficient user of JavaScript.
Multiply this by Ruby, HTML, CSS and you have a high investment in four core languages just to write a real application. So you have this entry barrier problem where some guy buys a book on Rails and becomes good enough to do something. But not something that can have any functional extension beyond what Rails can present.
The crisis is that you get a long ways in a few lines of code. And if something goes awry -- you have to know a hell of a lot about all the underlying languages. Each one of them can become a nearly full time job trying to keep up with.
Specialization will continue on the Rails level of focus. But you can't get an effective development team (can it be done alone anymore?) unless you keep a few core members who have great skills at one or maybe two of the underlying core components.
I don't think there is a solution to this until we can eliminate all the junk in these core components (HTML, CSS, JavaScript) so that writing code isn't such a complete pain in the butt. There's some evolution that has to happen out there.
Thank you for the information. I'm not familiar with Hep A as I've not contracted it lately...
But is it safe to say that anything that falls into the class of a Flu Virus can be considered ineffective after a few days?
I think it's also important to note that routine exposure to germs and virii do help the immune system. If you always sterilize your environment then the first time you use a public bathroom you will be in bed for a week.
One of the greatest preventative measures you can take is to just wash your hands with regular soap and water, no need for anti-bacterial stuff. And let your body do the rest. After all, the immune system has been under continuous improvements for a few million years now.
I guess I'll be using the same version of my ReiserFS drivers for a while now... 15 years!
Maybe someone can send him a notebook in a sheet cake?
If you want to list effective Black and While films you must add Plan 9 from Outer Space.
Actually, no, it might suck even more if it had full color. It was so bad I had to watch it twice. I think it should be mandatory in film classes so people can understand two things:
I found Metropolis years ago and found it to be a remarkably good story and being a non-talky film makes the message better.
It's 25 minutes restored with a probable 5 minutes remaining from the original 2.5 hours that will be lost. RTFA.
Virii can't exist outside of the body. Just leave it for a day and it will be fine.
I agree with you and it's rather trivial these days to manage the news and information from Microsoft. Just use the following rules:
And that's about it.
Microsoft has tons of cash and little pragmatic talent. As such, they are very slow to develop anything new in real terms but very adept at creating stories to the contrary. Just like any really fat company who's interest lies not in innovation, but protecting their territorial gains by whatever means necessary (legal, marketing, media).
Along with this, I'm sure you can find people who leave Google for their own reasons and people who work at Microsoft for their reasons. The companies are very different culturally and that will shape their decision on where to work.
You want top-down bureaucratic management or a more anarchistic bottom-up model you have to make a choice. Then there is always something in between.
I would hate to see it all mucked up with revenue dollars on advertisement. What would prevent YouTube from becoming exactly as broadcast television? Broadcast has been working under this model for 50 years and they have become so impotent, immaterial, and outright painful to watch that I don't think they, or anyone who emulates their business model has long for this world.
No, I think he gets 38 years of lock-up because he's exhibiting a pervasive, consistent, and intentional malicious behaviour well beyond trivial hacking.
I think because he's an immigrant he and his family stand a good chance of deportation and should. I think it is perfectly reasonable for the host nation to expect pristine behaviour and failing that you are clearly subject to deportation.
There isn't any poor victim here. He's someone who has those Machiavellian traits that might get him girls but not social acceptance. Either put him in prison or toss him out of the country.