Even if today it was down to 1 line of code, just because it has faded doesn't make it a disaster. It ruled the computing world for decades. Now, i agree, its 'just' a *huge* player in the back office, and if it vanished tomorrow we would be in a world of hurt.
Unless they make it REAL easy to install non-free components this will just serve to marginalize the project and effect its future. Sure 'geeks' will get by just fine but if the 2nd tier user has to fight to get something to work, they will switch to somethign else in a heartbeat.
Which is a shame, as its the most 'UNIXy' Linux out there and one of the oldest.
Don't need Terminal Services.. you can disable USB via GPO or other remote means ( or even something simple like removing drivers and not giving anyone admin access to reinstall them ). Hell if you really want to be sure, just remove the USB chip by force and lock the case.
Looks like its about 400. From what it looks like in the drawings, you would be hard pressed to make anything out of something 'solid' and are stuck with plastics and woods. It also may just be vaporware " we have to have x dollars by January or we call it quits". I think it will be more of a toy than anything else.
If you want to actually do something like this you can get an small 'tool shop' sized mill and convert it yourself for under a grand and cut real metal with it, today.
Now we can have pirated 'objects'. So now i don't have to steal my friend's widget that i cant afford and can just copy it. just like copying music bits.. no harm no foul.
I can see the ip/patent wars over this: "We have the patent on a sphere... "
And there is plenty of freedom here still, for the privileged few. The rest of us, well we better shut up and be happy with what we got.( and we can reminisce on what we had )
I disagree, as DVD encryption "battle" didn't really impact the common man. Most of the general public wouldn't have had a clue.
The Wikileaks battle is all over the press and is huge with common people who had no idea that it even existed a short time ago. They may not fully understand what is gong on, but this time they know about it and are taking sides.
Similar to the Napster incident, so few 'real' people knew, it was just a blip. Even tho the fallout did reach out to the regular folk.
No i see proof they didn't succeed 100%, but that they tried. The Feds actually do learn from their mistakes and each 'generation' of laws become more encompassing/repressive. Just because plan A didn't work out doesn't mean plan B isn't in the works.
That was a different time, and i don't see it being as friendly this time. Government is way out of control now. Also, those cars have not disappeared. i see them every day.
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Even if today it was down to 1 line of code, just because it has faded doesn't make it a disaster. It ruled the computing world for decades. Now, i agree, its 'just' a *huge* player in the back office, and if it vanished tomorrow we would be in a world of hurt.
Unless they make it REAL easy to install non-free components this will just serve to marginalize the project and effect its future. Sure 'geeks' will get by just fine but if the 2nd tier user has to fight to get something to work, they will switch to somethign else in a heartbeat.
Which is a shame, as its the most 'UNIXy' Linux out there and one of the oldest.
Sometimes 'morals' will come back to bite you.
You mean all 3 of them? This will be overturned as lunacy.
Good way to kill a project. Give the paranoids something to be paranoid about.
Anyone can make claims like 'ya, it was there, long ago, trust me'. How about some proof?
AND if there is proof, what are we going to do about it?
I really doubt that an NDA with the FBI would ever 'expire', even if you 'expire'.
I was thinking small 3-in-1 mill/lathe/drill.
Sure, they are not the best but if you are cramped for space....
Don't need Terminal Services.. you can disable USB via GPO or other remote means ( or even something simple like removing drivers and not giving anyone admin access to reinstall them ). Hell if you really want to be sure, just remove the USB chip by force and lock the case.
Looks like its about 400. From what it looks like in the drawings, you would be hard pressed to make anything out of something 'solid' and are stuck with plastics and woods. It also may just be vaporware " we have to have x dollars by January or we call it quits". I think it will be more of a toy than anything else.
If you want to actually do something like this you can get an small 'tool shop' sized mill and convert it yourself for under a grand and cut real metal with it, today.
Or even the knowledge of how to make the part.
That is the most likely answer. That and the "cat and mouse game" gets expensive after a while too.
Now we can have pirated 'objects'. So now i don't have to steal my friend's widget that i cant afford and can just copy it. just like copying music bits.. no harm no foul.
I can see the ip/patent wars over this: "We have the patent on a sphere... "
But its not your network.
Um.. then what is the point of having it?
Since when has that been a concern for a monopoly?
Or just disconnect totally, as will be the point? I guess that's one way to squelch online 'speech', remove the 'citizens' from the medium.
Under the authority that the supreme court will just refuse to hear any cases related to it.
And less risky.. Who now wants to be labeled as an 'anti American dissident' because they complained?
That was the test bed to see what they can get away with, and a sign of things to come. There are dark days ahead.
How do we know its not already happening?
And there is plenty of freedom here still, for the privileged few. The rest of us, well we better shut up and be happy with what we got.( and we can reminisce on what we had )
I disagree, as DVD encryption "battle" didn't really impact the common man. Most of the general public wouldn't have had a clue.
The Wikileaks battle is all over the press and is huge with common people who had no idea that it even existed a short time ago. They may not fully understand what is gong on, but this time they know about it and are taking sides.
Similar to the Napster incident, so few 'real' people knew, it was just a blip. Even tho the fallout did reach out to the regular folk.
No i see proof they didn't succeed 100%, but that they tried. The Feds actually do learn from their mistakes and each 'generation' of laws become more encompassing/repressive. Just because plan A didn't work out doesn't mean plan B isn't in the works.
That was a different time, and i don't see it being as friendly this time. Government is way out of control now. Also, those cars have not disappeared. i see them every day.
And government programs never grow.
Ban them, and no more problem.
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