The problem you've identified is similar to the spam problem: I could not only annoy people, but cost them money by sending them large unsolicited emails. Or the random DoS.
If the ISP side of the house is separate from the 'phone side' ( even when they are often the same damned company ) why are they not in court due to content and dubious QoS from the federal government?
I got unsolicited porn sent to my child the other day. They are 100% liable, if what you say is true.
The last time i was stopped at a 'seat belt roadblock' ( which just happened to be declared illegal in my area a while ago as there is no probable cause ) to verify i had my belt on, they didn't search the car.
Before the roadblocks were totally struck down, the local police actually made an effort on the local news to tell people that they had to set the blocks up AFTER a light or other access road, as you had the choice to pull off and not go thru it, legally, without any repercussion. ( after the constitutionality issue came up in the press.. )
I actually read the letter this guy got and this comment stood out:
"But, when I do, it does mean that traffic from other machines could be dropping out through my pipe because my laptopâ(TM)s configured as a Tor exit."
Sorry guy, but you are responsible for any traffic that comes thru your connection. its part of the contract. You violate the contract you can be cut off. Take it like a man.
We can debate all day long if there is such a thing as IP rights, if throttling is ok or the letters are proper ( i happen to think they should go suck an egg personally and don't believe in IP rights ) but using the argument 'it wasn't my PC' is pretty flimsy when you are running a proxy drain point intentionally.
Yet another reason we should all be using freenet.. you cant pin the 'act' down on anyone in particular. All they can do is bitch that you are using too much bandwidth.
I would be willing to bet at this point 'the web' ( and email ) generate the most traffic of all the other things going on out there.
I don't include *dedicated* links for companies in this count, as that technically isn't out on the 'internet' unless they are using common carrier + site to site VPN, regardless of how the packets may be routed without their knowledge.
Child pornography has also been found on 3,000 of the 100,000,000 sites that form the Worldwide Web. Verizon will be shutting down access to this service immediately. Except for the "Version approved" websites of course.
When i talk about it being possible and practical i'm taking about the 'average joe consumer', not the technically advanced person.
90% ( or more ) of the world are these 'average joe's', and they will be out of luck.
To me, if 90% of the war has been won, we have lost. And yes, i do see a police state eventually forming as this branches out to 'knowledge' not just 'entertainment media'
Most everyone i know has abandoned vinyl for their shiny CD's and itunes.
Same goes for video tape, most of the people i know have had theirs wear out the last decade and that this point it wasn't replaced since they have their DVR's.
For the record, I do happen to agree analog was/is better, but i don't see much of it out here.
If they are now making active, non court demanded, decisions on filtering, then they should be held to a different standard then a common carrier and lose all the benefits of being one.
Besides, this is just wrong. So what if a handful of usenet groups are 'bad'? This is like stopping every car on the street and searching because one guy had dope in his car in another town.
Not that there is much left of usenet these days worth saving, but still, its the beginning of a really slippery slope.
Except things are different now, as 'content control' wasn't doable back then.
In the digital it is technically possible, and once all old machines are phased out it will be practicable too. Will that be tomorrow or even next year? No, but eventually it will happen for most people. If you doubt me, how many people do you know that still have turntables or 8-tracks at this point?
Well, if they are generating energy they could split the water and use it as fuel. People have being doing that for years off-board and storing it in their vehicle.
The on-board nature makes the claims bogus, but just the idea of using water isn't all that strange. But aside from that little point, if they are 'generating energy' why not just use that directly?
All i can tell you ( i don't work in the retirement department ) is that we have software we are required to use by legislation, and part of the deal is that it was DoD 'approved'.
Its some boot floppy they use to do the job. Then the PC or server gets sent off to the surplus group to be auctioned off.
My real question for you is why did you move away from the less-expensive, integrated Microsoft solution that worked to something more expensive and less integrated. Nothing personal, but that doesn't sound like the sort of thing that any of the people I've ever worked for would blame on a vendor.
I must not have made my self clear ( which happens when i ramble ):
The Microsoft solution we went to ends up being cheaper and more integrated. ( the MS enterprise agreement already in place for other things helped the overall cost )
Even when the cost of change was factored in, over the long run it was still cheaper to switch.
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So where is the torrent to the documents, they would be an interesting read.
Now that we all have unlimited long distance, its time to go back to BBS's.
"but its too slow".. well with all the throttling going on ( that will get worse ), what is the difference?
Too bad he is serious, as the problem really does exist.
Now, on what scale is debatable, but not the problem itself.
If your computer has a limited life expectancy, then you have to buy a new one at some point. So why would they 'fix' the problem ?
You have more faith in your fellow man then i.
Nope, when we go to metered service you get to foot the bill for that 200mb service pack.
Us FreeBSD people that like to use the ports tree to be current will be screwed too.
"I thought the exchange of information over the Internet was supposed to be a good thing? "
Only if that information has been properly sanitized by the government and you pay a licensing fee to consume it.
Otherwise, its evil.
If the ISP side of the house is separate from the 'phone side' ( even when they are often the same damned company ) why are they not in court due to content and dubious QoS from the federal government?
I got unsolicited porn sent to my child the other day. They are 100% liable, if what you say is true.
The last time i was stopped at a 'seat belt roadblock' ( which just happened to be declared illegal in my area a while ago as there is no probable cause ) to verify i had my belt on, they didn't search the car.
Before the roadblocks were totally struck down, the local police actually made an effort on the local news to tell people that they had to set the blocks up AFTER a light or other access road, as you had the choice to pull off and not go thru it, legally, without any repercussion. ( after the constitutionality issue came up in the press.. )
The reasoning is the difference.
"too much bandwidth for our systems" is a lot different then " we are actively looking to block xyx content"
I actually read the letter this guy got and this comment stood out:
"But, when I do, it does mean that traffic from other machines could be dropping out through my pipe because my laptopâ(TM)s configured as a Tor exit."
Sorry guy, but you are responsible for any traffic that comes thru your connection. its part of the contract. You violate the contract you can be cut off. Take it like a man.
We can debate all day long if there is such a thing as IP rights, if throttling is ok or the letters are proper ( i happen to think they should go suck an egg personally and don't believe in IP rights ) but using the argument 'it wasn't my PC' is pretty flimsy when you are running a proxy drain point intentionally.
Yet another reason we should all be using freenet.. you cant pin the 'act' down on anyone in particular. All they can do is bitch that you are using too much bandwidth.
I would be willing to bet at this point 'the web' ( and email ) generate the most traffic of all the other things going on out there.
I don't include *dedicated* links for companies in this count, as that technically isn't out on the 'internet' unless they are using common carrier + site to site VPN, regardless of how the packets may be routed without their knowledge.
When i talk about it being possible and practical i'm taking about the 'average joe consumer', not the technically advanced person.
90% ( or more ) of the world are these 'average joe's', and they will be out of luck.
To me, if 90% of the war has been won, we have lost. And yes, i do see a police state eventually forming as this branches out to 'knowledge' not just 'entertainment media'
Most everyone i know has abandoned vinyl for their shiny CD's and itunes.
Same goes for video tape, most of the people i know have had theirs wear out the last decade and that this point it wasn't replaced since they have their DVR's.
For the record, I do happen to agree analog was/is better, but i don't see much of it out here.
Has been kissed good bye.
If they are now making active, non court demanded, decisions on filtering, then they should be held to a different standard then a common carrier and lose all the benefits of being one.
Besides, this is just wrong. So what if a handful of usenet groups are 'bad'? This is like stopping every car on the street and searching because one guy had dope in his car in another town.
Not that there is much left of usenet these days worth saving, but still, its the beginning of a really slippery slope.
For now.
Except things are different now, as 'content control' wasn't doable back then.
In the digital it is technically possible, and once all old machines are phased out it will be practicable too. Will that be tomorrow or even next year? No, but eventually it will happen for most people. If you doubt me, how many people do you know that still have turntables or 8-tracks at this point?
What they all want is a way to prevent possession of any content, and you have to lease it from them per use for the rest of your life..
Well, if they are generating energy they could split the water and use it as fuel. People have being doing that for years off-board and storing it in their vehicle.
The on-board nature makes the claims bogus, but just the idea of using water isn't all that strange. But aside from that little point, if they are 'generating energy' why not just use that directly?
Its not like the ISPs are denying it anymore.
Sure, you find out for sure, and and then what? In a lot of areas the 'hi-speed market' is a monopoly.
All i can tell you ( i don't work in the retirement department ) is that we have software we are required to use by legislation, and part of the deal is that it was DoD 'approved'.
Its some boot floppy they use to do the job. Then the PC or server gets sent off to the surplus group to be auctioned off.
My real question for you is why did you move away from the less-expensive, integrated Microsoft solution that worked to something more expensive and less integrated. Nothing personal, but that doesn't sound like the sort of thing that any of the people I've ever worked for would blame on a vendor.
I must not have made my self clear ( which happens when i ramble ):The Microsoft solution we went to ends up being cheaper and more integrated. ( the MS enterprise agreement already in place for other things helped the overall cost )
Even when the cost of change was factored in, over the long run it was still cheaper to switch.