By punishing the guy. That way, it'll give other companies peace of mind that this type of behavior has consequences, and won't give a bad rap to other sysadmins.
Don't feel sorry for the guy, he's stupid and now unemployable as a sysadmin. And he did this over what? Because of his salary and bonuses? Go find another job, don't go beserk!
Technological solution might hinder this but there will always be someone in a trusted position that can damage shit. At best, some type of system, away from the sysadmins, that logs the exact changes to the system would help.
That's what pisses me off about Enron executives, they caused at least 1000x the damage to their people but they get treated with kid gloves compared to this guy. The top brass also needs to find out that there are consequences to illegal/hurtful actions they initiate.
Uh, I have a hotmail account for email (2 years now), only ever gave the address to close family, and never got a spam junk meil yet. My family isn't allowed to forward the messages, or send it in a mass mailing (send to multiple email addresses at once). Maybe you are using a common name with numbers or somehow posted it once, that's all it takes for the spammers to get it and start sending you crap.
false advertising or fraud?
I wouldn't be hasty to threaten them, and lots of other people are posting good alternatives on what action to take but this behavior seems clearly illegal.
Many auction houses sell items "as is," meaning no refund and they get lots of telephone bids from people who rely on their description of the item. But when these auction houses clearly screw up on a simple description, many would refund the customer, (ie selling a computer monitor as a TV, a chevy as a ford, whatever) simply because they don't want to lose customers.
I would think this would apply even more to the movies house, they sold you tickets for midnight (and not 'as is'), you, the customer, are not obliged to know about their internal screw-ups or quirks. They have to give you what you paid for, or refund the money.
Frankly, I think the manager you talked to must have been a dick. Some movie I watch at the local Regal Cinema, during an afternoon matinee, the projector went kaput the last twenty minutes of the movie. What did the manager do? He gave the entire audience free run of the theatre (all the movies you can watch) for the rest of the night. And guess what? I can choose between 5 different theatres, where do I always go, Regal Cinema.
Regarding diets, I think doctors ignore that people are just different and some people just cannot adopt a style of eating, be it vegetarian, high protein low carb, high carb low protein, etc. When they push their by-the-book approaches, which seem more like one size fits all, they don't understand that it just doesn't work for some people.
Ultimately, except for some people with hormone problems, it really comes down to:
Food eaten -> Calories Absorbed = Calories Burned
Anything else really confuses the issue or is personal preference, and the individual person needs to know what fills them up, what they can live with, vs. some medically presented utopia.
I'm reading all this stuff about EULA's anyway, and from what I know about contracts, isn't the Microsoft one void as it's presented in any case. Contracts usually have to spell out terms on which both parties agree with, but Microsoft weasels out of this by also saying they can change their EULA at anytime, effectively giving you the consumer nothing.
I only took a basic class on contracts, but to my understanding is that a contract to be valid, has to give both parties something, when in fact M$ gives you nothing in their contract while trying to bind you to their terms. I don't remember what it's call in court, but the basic premise was so contracts remained fair, had to remain constant, if changed both parties had to agree to it, and that both parties had to be *bound* to something.
If anyone elso wrote a contract, like Microsoft did theirs, I could not imagine that the judge wouldn't throw it out then and there.
No, I'm not saying that at all, I'm saying pens do the same thing today as back in 1948 while cars are much safer/have many more features for the money. Also there are cars under 8K with power steering/brakes, abs (don't know about AT) - they are called ZMWs and be here next year or a few years.
Ah but you also forget.....
1948 cars didn't have:
cassette/cd player
power steering
power brakes
automatic transmissions
safety glass windows (i think)
seatbelts
airbags
abs brakes and the list goes on and on
+ most engines today have vastly more horsepower for the same displacement
microchips
while a pen :
just still writes, perhaps has a comfort grip now
If you stripped cars back to the 1948 level of features, they would be vastly cheaper
Easy, in that case, install some type of system on the peer to peer so that users can be moderated somehow and then you can avoid those who send out only crap.
Wouldn't help much anyway, I believe that 96% of US congress critters were lawyers by profession these days - that's pretty much as a high a percentage you can get. Equal representation indeed.
So the RIAA wants to have the benefit of every single sound we hear in our existance, perhaps they should also be prepare to pay the cost of noise pollution. Someone bring out the lawyer, this organization has much to answer for!
Anytime your neighbor keeps you up with the radio, what do you do, call the police, yes. And the police should charge the RIAA with $200 bucks for it, since its their system, their fault. Same with television. But don't stop there, get a lawyer, and sue them for sleep deprivation, and get workmanship compensation, payment for psychologist visits, etc.
Hear a song you hate, drive you crazy, and can't get what you need done? Do the same damn thing.
Your children listening to music with cussing and violence, and they start it to, it the RIAA's fault! Get yourself a lawyer, these are the people promoting it and making money, why should you be the parent. The RIAA should have been the ones there to make sure kids aren't listening to it, like they monitor everything else.
The point of all this is the golden rule, Do unto others as they do unto you, the RIAA should not have it both ways when they start slithering this low.
There should be a difference, the radio is already paid for by advertising and the business can't control what is playing at anyone time other than the station number.
Plus this enhancing crap, do I know before I get into a cab what music it plays, do I pay for that, NO, I pay to get from point A to point B. The music is just a atmosphere type thing or for the cabbie himself.
There should be a difference when the music merely is a background item in the overall scheme of things, or an actual attraction. When I shop in the store, the music won't make one iota of difference to 99.9% of people as long if it's not to loud. But if a bar is hosting say a metallica night or something to draw people in, then I *could* consider that more noteworthy of payment.
How the hell could the judge make cabbies pay for this? Look, radio broadcast like this are free to intercept and play, because the broadcaster is paying the royalties. It does not matter how many people listen to it or whatnot, does it. They figure that 20 dollars is just not enough to fight about, and most people will pay it.
Learning that stores in the US have to pay these royalities as well, you'd think they could play something better, sometimes makes me wonder why they just don't input to something free like a mp3.com station where (I believe) everything is free and you can go by genre as well. It's not like people actually listen to the music in stores actively, but rather need a decent background beat.
With what satellites must cost (anybody have numbers?), skimping on a cheaper launch would much like be like buying a brand new Rolls Royce and putting on retreaded tires from the local dump, sure it might work but is it work the risk?
This guy is gonna have to do at least several successful launches before anyone trusts his technology, maybe he can team up with Carmack:)
Yes, I guess the rights we have here are good (if not constantly slipping away), and I have nothing against the death penalty.....
But the US seems to a nice record of supporting/installing dictators in other countries just because they happen to support something we like. We helped get Castro in power and were friendly until he turned communist. We supported the Pakistani Taliban against the russians. Hell, even Pol Pot, who eventually killed over 2million of his own people.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/Support_P ol Pot_RS.html
Yeah, we have great civil rights unless someone takes a look at our own foreign policy, then it's noticeable we don't give a damn unless it's in our own interests.
It's impressive, at first since the weight was around 640lbs and it was a single cylinder engines, I thought it was basically a motorcycle with an aerodynamic shell. It basically looks like a Messerschmitt car from the 1950s in design.
But then going on google, it's noteworthy to compare that Harley Davidsons get around 50mpg, and Mopeds around 120mpg.
And it can even fit two people, looks like a definitely good city car to me, but have to ask, once you put weight in that thing, how far will mpg drop, because this baby only has a 1.7 gallon fuel tank!
You only become subordinate to the machine when you don't understand it or what it's doing. If you know what you're doing, you'll never be subordinated by it or it's seeming whims.
Coding can be very enjoyable if you have flexibility in how you do it, and the know-how to achieve your goals, otherwise it'll just be one long headache after another.
I agree with this, but not the spirit of the article which basically say Hi-tech workers are exploited, worse than factories, and bosses actually make money off them (the horror). Its called capitalism, and your post underlined the essense of it all - personal choice. If you have guts, you can go out on your own, if not (or just rather not have the hassle) you are gonna have to navigate the workplace scene and find yourself a job you like.
Start a union, so I can pay union dues?! Is the guy nuts or what? Not that is my only objection, but the government takes enough out of weekly paycheck, besides I don't mind working the extra few hours - as long as it's not 16 hours a dayin/dayout, does he want all the work to move to India/china with what he's asking.
Yeah, it might be mentally frustrating at times, but come on, no better than factory work? Go to some sweat shops in china if you want to get a full appreciation what it is like to work in crappy conditions, no air conditioning, lunch breaks, long hours PLUS NOT HAVING AN OPTION TO QUIT BECAUSE YOUR A FAMILY NEEDS THE MONEY OR IT'LL STARVE. Some people are just spoiled.
And, how much money the boss makes off my labor. What do I care, if I get a better offer elsewhere, I work there AND hope they make money off me.
how all throughout the last years, with all the re-released games on various systems, it seems to be a reflection that many gamers just want to go back to simpler games where you could just sit down, start the game, and "get" how to play it within 30 seconds that so many games these days just don't have.
The last game that had this for me was Metal Gear Solid (granted I knew the Nintendo versions + I'm talking about the VR simulations). Are there any actual modern games that can bring back the same feeling. I'd love to be able to play a new game w/o being told to RTFM.
Furthermore, the Aberdeen Group reports that more than 50 percent of all security advisories that CERT issued in the first 10 months of 2002 were for Linux and other open-source software solutions. The report muddles the argument that proprietary software such as Windows is inherently less secure than open solutions. And here's another blow to the status quo: Proprietary UNIX solutions were responsible for just as many security advisories as Linux in the same time period. Could Windows be the most secure mainstream OS available today?
Let me see, Linux in the first ten months was responsible for 50% of security advisories. Prop. Unixes were responsibile for just as many, which equals the other 50%. So alltogether Linux/Unix were responsible for all the advisories, M$ DOG/3.1/95/98/2000/XP none, Mac none, all the other non-unix OS none.
Yeah, and Saddam really got 100% of the votes in Iraq.
Don't forget tabbed browsing, opera has it too. It's far more convenient to have one window open with x tabs, than each one taking up it's own window. I've seen nothing really remarkable (or innovative since those folks just love flinging that term around) from MS in terms of improved functionality since probably IE4.
The group also assailed the General Public License (GPL), which generally permits programmers to incorporate code released under the GPL as long as they make their own source code available.
"While the law on this matter remains untested, it makes sense for companies to be highly risk-averse in this area, striking a more defensive posture when confronted with software development that may implicate GPL code or similar coding environments," the initiative said. "Commercial and hybrid software developers generally do not want to risk losing their investment."
Proprietary software companies such as Microsoft have labeled open-source software as a serious threat and have begun to oppose its use by governments. At the same time, however, nations such as France and Germany have begun to encourage open-source software to limit their dependence on proprietary vendors and to stimulate local software development.
I hope they aren't implicating that the GPL is dangerous because they would have to release source code if they make changes, AFAIK that is not true if the code is only used internally within the organization. It only has to be released if a binary is release to other organizations (hence keeping it GPL)
What does the Dod have to do with software companies losing their investment? Their only jobs is to protect US interests (the people). The companies programming Linux apps don't have to release their source unless their product is a modification of another entities program.
It's all FUD to scare the non-techies in the goverment but they should talk. Closed source programs being as secure than Open source? Which programs, Hello World?, under which track record?
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And the only text in it would be: "To protect the integrity of the data in your machine, pull out all the plugs attached to it." :)
No, it'd be one cd rom on it with linux on it.
By punishing the guy. That way, it'll give other companies peace of mind that this type of behavior has consequences, and won't give a bad rap to other sysadmins.
Don't feel sorry for the guy, he's stupid and now unemployable as a sysadmin. And he did this over what? Because of his salary and bonuses? Go find another job, don't go beserk!
Technological solution might hinder this but there will always be someone in a trusted position that can damage shit. At best, some type of system, away from the sysadmins, that logs the exact changes to the system would help.
That's what pisses me off about Enron executives, they caused at least 1000x the damage to their people but they get treated with kid gloves compared to this guy. The top brass also needs to find out that there are consequences to illegal/hurtful actions they initiate.
Uh, I have a hotmail account for email (2 years now), only ever gave the address to close family, and never got a spam junk meil yet. My family isn't allowed to forward the messages, or send it in a mass mailing (send to multiple email addresses at once). Maybe you are using a common name with numbers or somehow posted it once, that's all it takes for the spammers to get it and start sending you crap.
false advertising or fraud? I wouldn't be hasty to threaten them, and lots of other people are posting good alternatives on what action to take but this behavior seems clearly illegal. Many auction houses sell items "as is," meaning no refund and they get lots of telephone bids from people who rely on their description of the item. But when these auction houses clearly screw up on a simple description, many would refund the customer, (ie selling a computer monitor as a TV, a chevy as a ford, whatever) simply because they don't want to lose customers. I would think this would apply even more to the movies house, they sold you tickets for midnight (and not 'as is'), you, the customer, are not obliged to know about their internal screw-ups or quirks. They have to give you what you paid for, or refund the money. Frankly, I think the manager you talked to must have been a dick. Some movie I watch at the local Regal Cinema, during an afternoon matinee, the projector went kaput the last twenty minutes of the movie. What did the manager do? He gave the entire audience free run of the theatre (all the movies you can watch) for the rest of the night. And guess what? I can choose between 5 different theatres, where do I always go, Regal Cinema.
Regarding diets, I think doctors ignore that people are just different and some people just cannot adopt a style of eating, be it vegetarian, high protein low carb, high carb low protein, etc. When they push their by-the-book approaches, which seem more like one size fits all, they don't understand that it just doesn't work for some people.
Ultimately, except for some people with hormone problems, it really comes down to:
Food eaten -> Calories Absorbed = Calories Burned
Anything else really confuses the issue or is personal preference, and the individual person needs to know what fills them up, what they can live with, vs. some medically presented utopia.
Microsoft has tech support personnel?
And here I always thought that it was just an automated voice computer running a circular link list program!
I'm reading all this stuff about EULA's anyway, and from what I know about contracts, isn't the Microsoft one void as it's presented in any case. Contracts usually have to spell out terms on which both parties agree with, but Microsoft weasels out of this by also saying they can change their EULA at anytime, effectively giving you the consumer nothing. I only took a basic class on contracts, but to my understanding is that a contract to be valid, has to give both parties something, when in fact M$ gives you nothing in their contract while trying to bind you to their terms. I don't remember what it's call in court, but the basic premise was so contracts remained fair, had to remain constant, if changed both parties had to agree to it, and that both parties had to be *bound* to something. If anyone elso wrote a contract, like Microsoft did theirs, I could not imagine that the judge wouldn't throw it out then and there.
No, I'm not saying that at all, I'm saying pens do the same thing today as back in 1948 while cars are much safer/have many more features for the money. Also there are cars under 8K with power steering /brakes, abs (don't know about AT) - they are called ZMWs and be here next year or a few years.
Ah but you also forget..... 1948 cars didn't have: cassette/cd player power steering power brakes automatic transmissions safety glass windows (i think) seatbelts airbags abs brakes and the list goes on and on + most engines today have vastly more horsepower for the same displacement microchips while a pen : just still writes, perhaps has a comfort grip now If you stripped cars back to the 1948 level of features, they would be vastly cheaper
Easy, in that case, install some type of system on the peer to peer so that users can be moderated somehow and then you can avoid those who send out only crap.
Wouldn't help much anyway, I believe that 96% of US congress critters were lawyers by profession these days - that's pretty much as a high a percentage you can get. Equal representation indeed.
Anytime your neighbor keeps you up with the radio, what do you do, call the police, yes. And the police should charge the RIAA with $200 bucks for it, since its their system, their fault. Same with television. But don't stop there, get a lawyer, and sue them for sleep deprivation, and get workmanship compensation, payment for psychologist visits, etc.
Hear a song you hate, drive you crazy, and can't get what you need done? Do the same damn thing.
Your children listening to music with cussing and violence, and they start it to, it the RIAA's fault! Get yourself a lawyer, these are the people promoting it and making money, why should you be the parent. The RIAA should have been the ones there to make sure kids aren't listening to it, like they monitor everything else.
The point of all this is the golden rule, Do unto others as they do unto you, the RIAA should not have it both ways when they start slithering this low.
There should be a difference, the radio is already paid for by advertising and the business can't control what is playing at anyone time other than the station number.
Plus this enhancing crap, do I know before I get into a cab what music it plays, do I pay for that, NO, I pay to get from point A to point B. The music is just a atmosphere type thing or for the cabbie himself.
There should be a difference when the music merely is a background item in the overall scheme of things, or an actual attraction. When I shop in the store, the music won't make one iota of difference to 99.9% of people as long if it's not to loud. But if a bar is hosting say a metallica night or something to draw people in, then I *could* consider that more noteworthy of payment.
How the hell could the judge make cabbies pay for this? Look, radio broadcast like this are free to intercept and play, because the broadcaster is paying the royalties. It does not matter how many people listen to it or whatnot, does it. They figure that 20 dollars is just not enough to fight about, and most people will pay it.
Learning that stores in the US have to pay these royalities as well, you'd think they could play something better, sometimes makes me wonder why they just don't input to something free like a mp3.com station where (I believe) everything is free and you can go by genre as well. It's not like people actually listen to the music in stores actively, but rather need a decent background beat.
With what satellites must cost (anybody have numbers?), skimping on a cheaper launch would much like be like buying a brand new Rolls Royce and putting on retreaded tires from the local dump, sure it might work but is it work the risk?
This guy is gonna have to do at least several successful launches before anyone trusts his technology, maybe he can team up with Carmack:)
Yes, I guess the rights we have here are good (if not constantly slipping away), and I have nothing against the death penalty.....
P ol Pot_RS.html
But the US seems to a nice record of supporting/installing dictators in other countries just because they happen to support something we like. We helped get Castro in power and were friendly until he turned communist. We supported the Pakistani Taliban against the russians. Hell, even Pol Pot, who eventually killed over 2million of his own people.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/Support_
Yeah, we have great civil rights unless someone takes a look at our own foreign policy, then it's noticeable we don't give a damn unless it's in our own interests.
It's impressive, at first since the weight was around 640lbs and it was a single cylinder engines, I thought it was basically a motorcycle with an aerodynamic shell. It basically looks like a Messerschmitt car from the 1950s in design.
But then going on google, it's noteworthy to compare that Harley Davidsons get around 50mpg, and Mopeds around 120mpg.
And it can even fit two people, looks like a definitely good city car to me, but have to ask, once you put weight in that thing, how far will mpg drop, because this baby only has a 1.7 gallon fuel tank!
You only become subordinate to the machine when you don't understand it or what it's doing. If you know what you're doing, you'll never be subordinated by it or it's seeming whims. Coding can be very enjoyable if you have flexibility in how you do it, and the know-how to achieve your goals, otherwise it'll just be one long headache after another.
I agree with this, but not the spirit of the article which basically say Hi-tech workers are exploited, worse than factories, and bosses actually make money off them (the horror). Its called capitalism, and your post underlined the essense of it all - personal choice. If you have guts, you can go out on your own, if not (or just rather not have the hassle) you are gonna have to navigate the workplace scene and find yourself a job you like.
Start a union, so I can pay union dues?! Is the guy nuts or what? Not that is my only objection, but the government takes enough out of weekly paycheck, besides I don't mind working the extra few hours - as long as it's not 16 hours a dayin/dayout, does he want all the work to move to India/china with what he's asking.
Yeah, it might be mentally frustrating at times, but come on, no better than factory work? Go to some sweat shops in china if you want to get a full appreciation what it is like to work in crappy conditions, no air conditioning, lunch breaks, long hours PLUS NOT HAVING AN OPTION TO QUIT BECAUSE YOUR A FAMILY NEEDS THE MONEY OR IT'LL STARVE. Some people are just spoiled.
And, how much money the boss makes off my labor. What do I care, if I get a better offer elsewhere, I work there AND hope they make money off me.
how all throughout the last years, with all the re-released games on various systems, it seems to be a reflection that many gamers just want to go back to simpler games where you could just sit down, start the game, and "get" how to play it within 30 seconds that so many games these days just don't have.
The last game that had this for me was Metal Gear Solid (granted I knew the Nintendo versions + I'm talking about the VR simulations). Are there any actual modern games that can bring back the same feeling. I'd love to be able to play a new game w/o being told to RTFM.
Furthermore, the Aberdeen Group reports that more than 50 percent of all security advisories that CERT issued in the first 10 months of 2002 were for Linux and other open-source software solutions. The report muddles the argument that proprietary software such as Windows is inherently less secure than open solutions. And here's another blow to the status quo: Proprietary UNIX solutions were responsible for just as many security advisories as Linux in the same time period. Could Windows be the most secure mainstream OS available today? Let me see, Linux in the first ten months was responsible for 50% of security advisories. Prop. Unixes were responsibile for just as many, which equals the other 50%. So alltogether Linux/Unix were responsible for all the advisories, M$ DOG/3.1/95/98/2000/XP none, Mac none, all the other non-unix OS none. Yeah, and Saddam really got 100% of the votes in Iraq.
Don't forget tabbed browsing, opera has it too. It's far more convenient to have one window open with x tabs, than each one taking up it's own window. I've seen nothing really remarkable (or innovative since those folks just love flinging that term around) from MS in terms of improved functionality since probably IE4.
The group also assailed the General Public License (GPL), which generally permits programmers to incorporate code released under the GPL as long as they make their own source code available.
"While the law on this matter remains untested, it makes sense for companies to be highly risk-averse in this area, striking a more defensive posture when confronted with software development that may implicate GPL code or similar coding environments," the initiative said. "Commercial and hybrid software developers generally do not want to risk losing their investment."
Proprietary software companies such as Microsoft have labeled open-source software as a serious threat and have begun to oppose its use by governments. At the same time, however, nations such as France and Germany have begun to encourage open-source software to limit their dependence on proprietary vendors and to stimulate local software development.
I hope they aren't implicating that the GPL is dangerous because they would have to release source code if they make changes, AFAIK that is not true if the code is only used internally within the organization. It only has to be released if a binary is release to other organizations (hence keeping it GPL)
What does the Dod have to do with software companies losing their investment? Their only jobs is to protect US interests (the people). The companies programming Linux apps don't have to release their source unless their product is a modification of another entities program.
It's all FUD to scare the non-techies in the goverment but they should talk. Closed source programs being as secure than Open source? Which programs, Hello World?, under which track record?