I missed the part where you get indemnity from RIAA lawsuits if you subscribe to this service and accidentally listen to a song on the wrong player, or maybe write down your login information on a sticky note and your 12 year old's best friend picks it up and logs in from a different computer. (Gasp! Say it 'aint so!)
Or is this just a phishing excersize for EMI Legal?
Hmm. Instead of rethinking policy for the whole Debian project, since as you point out they do have a large number of perople who actually like a slower release cycle, Debian could come up with a sub-distribution.
This sub-distribution could be essentially Debian but with an emphasis on the latest and greatest desktop environment, newest kernel, etc. But all of the tools would remain the same (apt-get, etc.) and packages should be interchangeable. (Barring kernel or library dependencies of course - attempting to install the latest udev package on a 2.6.8 Sarge box might have understandable problems.)
You could call this sub-distribution something friendly and warm, like a word that means something like "humanity to others" in a non-English language, which will appeal to a large number of English speakers as having a name that is easily remembered and catchy but won't be confused with your girlfriend or headgear.
Then, to avoid the overhead of trying to run a whole other sub-distribution in addition to oldstable, stable, testing, unstable and experimental - you could spin off the sub-distribution and give it a life of it's own, where it can draw on the huge Debian base, but have the independence it needs to track the latest and greatest.
3/8 - but even the allegedly legit sites were not anywhere I would ever browse, and I was never given the option of "neither site looks good, move along quickly and don't make eye contact...."
People really ***BUY*** a boxed set of smileys? WTF...
Er? I couldn't copy and paste between KEdit 1.3 (Using KDE 3.2.3, Debian Sarge) and Sylpheed 0.9.12 just yesterday. Had to open the file in KWrite instead to do it.
There are still copy & paste problems, even with the latest KDE or Gnome. We're still not to the point where CTRL-C, CTRL-X and CTRL-V (or some alternative standard) works regardless of the application.
I don't know if the military is much of a potential lawsuit source. There is a good chance that the military could leverage OSS mushroom style.
For example, until Theo pi##ed them off, the Air Force and Darpa were sending money to OpenBSD. Who's to say that they haven't since forked it to "DarpaBSD" and moved on?
The military does have programmers who know their stuff, and they can hire IBM as a contractor doing 'work for hire' that legally belongs to the U.S. Government, complete with NDAs & whiterooms.
They also have a secrecy == security mindset in many areas, so they may choose not to release their work. Even GPL software could dissapear into the system like this, since they would all be working under the umbrella of the U.S. Government and so therefore the work could be widely used in binary but never "distributed."
In that case, patent cases or other IP disputes would probably not be made public, as in order to make a case the military work would have to be published. And unless they publish their work (like SELinux), nobody else would really know enough about it to sue them. Given that Microsoft et.al. has already complained about the unfair competition provided by SELinux, I think publishing complete operating systems or adaptations of OSS operating systems would be rare.
Homer Simpson CANNOT see this coming. However, given a half hour, he could accidentally trap the entire IBM legal department in some underground cave (or perhaps Moe's), find an old patent in his attic registered by his great grandfather* in 1901 for a "computing device", show up to court and take IBM to the cleaners for, oh let's just say $3 Billion, and then sign over the check to Mr. Burns in return for a week off and a couple of donuts.
*OK, we all know Lisa forged the 1901 patent, but as long as it works in court we're fine.
Maybe they're doing it as a wake-up call for all. They seem to be busy and motivated, but still leaving enough evidence to alert many people as they go.
At work one of the guys was showing around a copy of SCO/Caldera OpenLinux. I think it was version 3.2.
What caught my attention was a statement saying that support would be available online until January, 2004. IIRC this was silkscreened right on the install CD.
IANAL, but it seems to me that it will be at least January before the SCO ftp servers can take their Linux down without violating their own promises to buyers of OpenLinux. And possibly much later, depending on the drop dead date for the last version they shipped.
I don't understand why parent was modded troll. I certainly won't be buying a new CPU/motherboard (or new PC) if the cost of the CPU is $700, $500, or even $400.
Heck I can get a fairly decent machine complete with monitor for $400 that is more than powerful enough to do anything I need done. If I want to spend extra for quality I might hit $700.
Perhaps the parent isn't a gamer who "needs" a 5GHz CPU or interested in high performance workstations.
Heck, it's a trick even identifying a business at all. Cell phone records might be easier to track than e-mail, but much of the e-mail spam I've receieved doesn't even identify the merchant. (So even if I WAS interested in the product, I couldn't buy it.)
"Well, the Redhat 9.0 installer was broken out of the box, so that was a no-go. Can't say if the actual system was fine, since it crashed three times in a row and then I deep-fried the CD."
Hmm. I've heard about putting a CD in the microwave for a couple of seconds to make cool designs in it, but never deep-frying it.
Gotta look into that.
Deep-frying and THEN nuking might be the next big thing in the CD-R art world.
OK, so the article points out that there are additional ports & packages available for NetBSD that are not in the base install, and if you want your handheld (!) to be an NFS server you should add that port.
It's pretty easy to rack up $25,000 in damage (i.e. in the cost of the people of had to evaluate and repair his intrusion into the network).
So, how much are the sysadmins who left the original holes in the network being charged? One could easily make the case that it was their fault that Lamo could cause any "damage" at all.
NYT putting all the blame (and costs) on Lamo seems a little off base to me, especially considering that a lot of that "damage" was probably overtime payments to those same sysadmins.
At least the LexisNexis charges seem to revolve around actual services.
"I could understand if it were 6 months or a year, but this is a bit strange."
From my point of view, it becomes much clearer if you use another timeline. Instead of looking at how long SCO/Caldera has been distributing Linux, look at how long the current management team has been in place.
Just long enough to start to figure out how to turn SCO into a profitable company, realize that involves too much hard work but management can still line their nests, draw up a game plan, and start a lawsuit.
IBM not buying them right away probably screwed their timeline. Now they have to keep the ball rolling by intimidating smaller companies into buying licenses before the main court case is even heard, much less resolved in their favor. The longer this drags out I'll bet the more off the wall their revenue generating schemes will be.
Both are "unix" as in "unix-like" but neither Linux nor OS X are UNIX in the strict sense. Although if someone wanted to front the cash and a little developer time I wouldn't be surprised if both OS's could be certified.
AFAIK all of the *BSD flavors share the same ancestry, traced back to Berkeley's re-implementation of AT&T UNIX.
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I missed the part where you get indemnity from RIAA lawsuits if you subscribe to this service and accidentally listen to a song on the wrong player, or maybe write down your login information on a sticky note and your 12 year old's best friend picks it up and logs in from a different computer. (Gasp! Say it 'aint so!)
Or is this just a phishing excersize for EMI Legal?
I just tried it with tethereal sniffing on the firewall and didn't see any traffic going Microsoft's way.
Booted Windows XP Pro, XP Home, and Server 2003.
Caveat - the XP Pro and Server 2003 are eval versions running on VMWare. Either the Eval status or VMWare might interfere. Doubt it though.
Hmm. Instead of rethinking policy for the whole Debian project, since as you point out they do have a large number of perople who actually like a slower release cycle, Debian could come up with a sub-distribution.
This sub-distribution could be essentially Debian but with an emphasis on the latest and greatest desktop environment, newest kernel, etc. But all of the tools would remain the same (apt-get, etc.) and packages should be interchangeable. (Barring kernel or library dependencies of course - attempting to install the latest udev package on a 2.6.8 Sarge box might have understandable problems.)
You could call this sub-distribution something friendly and warm, like a word that means something like "humanity to others" in a non-English language, which will appeal to a large number of English speakers as having a name that is easily remembered and catchy but won't be confused with your girlfriend or headgear.
Then, to avoid the overhead of trying to run a whole other sub-distribution in addition to oldstable, stable, testing, unstable and experimental - you could spin off the sub-distribution and give it a life of it's own, where it can draw on the huge Debian base, but have the independence it needs to track the latest and greatest.
Excellent!
I think spamassassin has been deleting all the e-mails I get about investing in this company - good thing /. let me see the "related quotes" graph!
3/8 - but even the allegedly legit sites were not anywhere I would ever browse, and I was never given the option of "neither site looks good, move along quickly and don't make eye contact...."
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People really ***BUY*** a boxed set of smileys? WTF...
http://www.siteadvisor.com/quizzes/images/q2bLrg.
>An E-Mail has been dispatched to our Technical Staff, who you can also contact if the problem persists.
/. their e-mail server too!
>We apologise for any inconvenience.
Oof. We get to
Er? I couldn't copy and paste between KEdit 1.3 (Using KDE 3.2.3, Debian Sarge) and Sylpheed 0.9.12 just yesterday. Had to open the file in KWrite instead to do it.
There are still copy & paste problems, even with the latest KDE or Gnome. We're still not to the point where CTRL-C, CTRL-X and CTRL-V (or some alternative standard) works regardless of the application.
I don't know if the military is much of a potential lawsuit source. There is a good chance that the military could leverage OSS mushroom style.
For example, until Theo pi##ed them off, the Air Force and Darpa were sending money to OpenBSD. Who's to say that they haven't since forked it to "DarpaBSD" and moved on?
The military does have programmers who know their stuff, and they can hire IBM as a contractor doing 'work for hire' that legally belongs to the U.S. Government, complete with NDAs & whiterooms.
They also have a secrecy == security mindset in many areas, so they may choose not to release their work. Even GPL software could dissapear into the system like this, since they would all be working under the umbrella of the U.S. Government and so therefore the work could be widely used in binary but never "distributed."
In that case, patent cases or other IP disputes would probably not be made public, as in order to make a case the military work would have to be published. And unless they publish their work (like SELinux), nobody else would really know enough about it to sue them. Given that Microsoft et.al. has already complained about the unfair competition provided by SELinux, I think publishing complete operating systems or adaptations of OSS operating systems would be rare.
Anyway - just a thought.
"Even Homer Simpson can see this coming.
Homer Simpson CANNOT see this coming. However, given a half hour, he could accidentally trap the entire IBM legal department in some underground cave (or perhaps Moe's), find an old patent in his attic registered by his great grandfather* in 1901 for a "computing device", show up to court and take IBM to the cleaners for, oh let's just say $3 Billion, and then sign over the check to Mr. Burns in return for a week off and a couple of donuts.
*OK, we all know Lisa forged the 1901 patent, but as long as it works in court we're fine.
Hmm. Someone's senior thesis.
See KB825750
At work one of the guys was showing around a copy of SCO/Caldera OpenLinux. I think it was version 3.2.
What caught my attention was a statement saying that support would be available online until January, 2004. IIRC this was silkscreened right on the install CD.
IANAL, but it seems to me that it will be at least January before the SCO ftp servers can take their Linux down without violating their own promises to buyers of OpenLinux. And possibly much later, depending on the drop dead date for the last version they shipped.
I don't understand why parent was modded troll. I certainly won't be buying a new CPU/motherboard (or new PC) if the cost of the CPU is $700, $500, or even $400.
Heck I can get a fairly decent machine complete with monitor for $400 that is more than powerful enough to do anything I need done. If I want to spend extra for quality I might hit $700.
Perhaps the parent isn't a gamer who "needs" a 5GHz CPU or interested in high performance workstations.
A thousand copies?
With all the trekkies out there (myself included) you'd think they could make a ton of money by pressing more than a measly thousand copies.
These things will only sell for so much on e-bay.
Heck, it's a trick even identifying a business at all. Cell phone records might be easier to track than e-mail, but much of the e-mail spam I've receieved doesn't even identify the merchant. (So even if I WAS interested in the product, I couldn't buy it.)
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"Well, the Redhat 9.0 installer was broken out of the box, so that was a no-go. Can't say if the actual system was fine, since it crashed three times in a row and then I deep-fried the CD."
Hmm. I've heard about putting a CD in the microwave for a couple of seconds to make cool designs in it, but never deep-frying it.
Gotta look into that.
Deep-frying and THEN nuking might be the next big thing in the CD-R art world.
Thanks for the tip!
Didn't they do exactly that with The Hulk?
It was released early & they knew exactly who to go after.
www.4law.co.il (pdf)
OK, so the article points out that there are additional ports & packages available for NetBSD that are not in the base install, and if you want your handheld (!) to be an NFS server you should add that port.
I guess I'm missing the news value here.
Translation to help moderators understand the original post (It is a good point, linuxislandsucks probably types too fast and left some stuff out):
Taxing or restricting Interstate commerce accross state line sis a fed eral ba ili wick and is not controlled by the states '..
but a 17GB live cd would take quite a lot longer... day or two...
Hey, I only get 5GB a month. Make that 3 1/2 months for me!
It's pretty easy to rack up $25,000 in damage (i.e. in the cost of the people of had to evaluate and repair his intrusion into the network).
So, how much are the sysadmins who left the original holes in the network being charged? One could easily make the case that it was their fault that Lamo could cause any "damage" at all.
NYT putting all the blame (and costs) on Lamo seems a little off base to me, especially considering that a lot of that "damage" was probably overtime payments to those same sysadmins.
At least the LexisNexis charges seem to revolve around actual services.
somehow I don't think the pass rate would be all that high.
I dunno. I had to learn how to use the VAX at UAF (Alaska) in 1987. Every freshman did, it was a requirement.
"CMPSC 1: How not to be a dumbass on computers" should be a GRE.
"I could understand if it were 6 months or a year, but this is a bit strange."
From my point of view, it becomes much clearer if you use another timeline. Instead of looking at how long SCO/Caldera has been distributing Linux, look at how long the current management team has been in place.
Just long enough to start to figure out how to turn SCO into a profitable company, realize that involves too much hard work but management can still line their nests, draw up a game plan, and start a lawsuit.
IBM not buying them right away probably screwed their timeline. Now they have to keep the ball rolling by intimidating smaller companies into buying licenses before the main court case is even heard, much less resolved in their favor. The longer this drags out I'll bet the more off the wall their revenue generating schemes will be.
Both are "unix" as in "unix-like" but neither Linux nor OS X are UNIX in the strict sense. Although if someone wanted to front the cash and a little developer time I wouldn't be surprised if both OS's could be certified.
AFAIK all of the *BSD flavors share the same ancestry, traced back to Berkeley's re-implementation of AT&T UNIX.
Hmm. OK, then don't fire them.
"Ah yes, thank you for the coffee Darl. Next time, please remember to put more cream in it, OK? You're getting much better at your new job.
You know, that offer of early retirement with no pension is still on the table, if you want to talk about it after serving lunch."