Non-standard, or non-popular hardware is always a hassle, where with Windows you get the driver supplied with it
Nothing to do with Linux, all to do with Windows' monopoly.
A Windows support person (I was one) could easily walk my grandmother through the process of putting the cd into the drive, clicking the right things, etc
I could say the same about Linux. Actually, the support person could just ssh and install it for them.
The required steps to get hardward working good under Linux can be (and often are) much, much more complicated and time consuming
Installing a quick module, or selecting from a list seems much simpler than the hassle of sorting out hardware in Windows, with countless reboots, conflicts and things going wrong.
trying to compile a new application from source
Erm, how easy is that under Windows compared to Linux? At least Linux comes with decent compilers, taking the pain out of compiling programs.
discovering it needs version x of some lib, downloading that lib, discovering it needs version y of some other lib, downloading that, etc. etc. etc
Sounds just like the hassle I've had with various vbrun and similar libraries, whereas with Linux I can just type "apt-get install program", and this will be all sorted out.
The home end user is accustomed to adding new software continually, and would not be able to do this on Linux
Erm, the end user ISN'T used to continually adding software. Either it comes preinstalled, or they get someone to do it. With Linux, then can just use apt-get, or just get someone to ssh in and do it for them.
The difference is, that cutting this very part of the woman's genital leads to less pleasure in sex
And I suppose all the pain whilst having sex with a circumcised penis wouldn't lead to less pleasure. And all those nerve-endings lost won't make any difference at all.
Speak with a fellow jew and ask him in what ways "chopping off the end of your dick" did affect him
Seeing as he would have nothing to compare it to, that wouldn't be very useless. But you can simulate what it would be like with no foreskin.
Simply hold back your foreskin really tightly, and then proceed to have a wank, with the skin constantly held back. Then tell me how comfortable it is compared to wanking with a free foreskin.
Still... your right to talk about, or not talk about, female circumcision isn't the problem. It's the fact that there are countries in the world that allow it, by law, that's the problem.
Why just female circumcision? Why about male circumcision? Isn't the real problem countries which allow any form of circumcision?
Or are you just one of those hypocritical feminists?
If the people in europe believe hate sites are bad, while its not right to totally censor, they do have a right to make it difficult to host a hate site, by setting rules in place that make hosting a hate sitee difficult
Maybe all the krauts and frogs should learn not to be so fucking sensitive.
And they can stick their single currency up their arses.
Yes, you don't have to worry, as you don't get a choice. With Linux, you can either choose a BSD-like distro, or a Windows-like distro, or something completely different. No "one size fits all" philosophy as with Windows or BSD
Didn't your grandmother ever tell that nothing in life is free
You're right, Windows may be free, but you only get a basic, amateurish, childish OS, with very little in terms of functionality. You get what you pay for I'm afraid, and if you want stability, reliability, configurability, an enourmous selection of amazing software and a professional, well-rounded OS, you need to spend lots of money on Linux. Wait a minute, that doesn't sound right...
2. Convenience
Yes, it's conventient not having to reboot, reinstall, mess about with activation, earn money for expensive upgrades, sit in front of your computer in case an irritating dialogue box comes up asking you if you're REALLY sure you want to do what you just told it to do, go round finding things off the Internet because nearly nothing is included, have to click about 70 "next" buttons and rebooting just to install a program, have to spend ages removing spyware, trojans, viruses etc. Linux is quite convenient indeed.
4. A Masters Degree in Computer Engineering just to TRY to interpret it
You'd need one of those to interpret Window's awkward error messages. Linux on the other hand isn't so cryptic, opaque and badly documented, so it is simple to diagnose problems, or to get someone to telnet in and do it for you.
how much time will I spend just TRYING to figure out what's going on with my PC?
Yes, how much time will you spend trying to figure out what those blue screens and wierd error messages mean. Maybe it would be easier to reinstall?
I like XP; but that's my OPINION. Now THAT'S diversity.
My idea of diversity doesn't include having to ring up MS and BEG to use my own computer.
Hideous? It's one of the features that makes Opera better than all other browsers. Are you seriously saying you open a completely new window on the main taskbar for every single browsing window you open? That must be absolute agony to work with. The only browser that comes close to this functionality is Galeon, and that's slow as fuck.
See the international figures about economy as well.
Is that before or after the 95% taxes?
See our social advance
Yes, you can't even sell Nazi memorabilia without being fined/arrested. Such social advance.
see our advance in respect of human rights
Yes, you can't even own war memorabilia without being victimised by the fascist government. You can barely earn a living without it all being taxed away. What human rights.
see our advance in health
I'm surprised you can afford it with all those taxes. Oh, I forgot, most of you frogs don't have the ability to earn anything for yourself, you have to get everything at the taxpayer's expense.
do you know Concorde?
Yes, but I can't afford it. Maybe you could though if the majority of your earnings weren't taken by the government to handout to everyone else.
Hmmm...for a start I'd like a cite for those statistics. Secondly, you said deaths, not deaths caused by the availability of guns. If guns are legal in one country, and people are constantly knifing each other, and in another country, where guns are illegal, everyone is nice and peaceful, it doesn't prove a thing.
Thirdly, you never said how many of those deaths were suicides or self-defence. Fourthly, you didn't cite your source!
Also, I'd like to know how banning guns would solve this problem, and how many problems it would cause. Gun crime in the UK has gone up around 40% since guns were banned a few years ago (For a citation, go to any British news site and check the archives for a few months ago). Secondly, how do you expect to defend yourself against armed attackers without a gun?
I live in Vietnam, let me show you round... See that old guy over there? His father was killed in US bombing raids. That old Vietnamese woman ovet there? They was raped by several US soldiers when she was 12. See that sign to 'My-Lai' over there? You should go and see that village. One day the US came and slaughtered everyone, including women and children. Ban all US memorabilia now.
*every* Linux UI I've used has been worse by a huge margin, either in terms of speed, or refusal to have standard ways of doing things across all apps (copy/cut/paste/etc) or *UGLY* graphics and fonts
Worse? I haven't seen a Windows UI anywhere near what I can acheive on Linux. With Windows, I don't even have multiple desktops, virtual desktops or even snapping windows! Can you believe how crippled the Windows UI is? No, neither can I!
Did I happen to mention keybindings for things like close, maximise etc aren't even configurable on Windows, whereas it is a basic feature on Linux?
Did I mention Windows doesn't even have snapping Windows? I can't get over that. But I suppose once you're used to Linux, you take such basic functionality for granted.
Experiment 1: Copy and paste everything in one window to the next window.
Keyboard:
Ctrl+A,
Ctrl+C,
Alt+tab,
Ctrl+V,
Total: 1 seconds.
Mouse:
Move hand to mouse,
Visually look where "Edit" menu is,
Click on menu,
Visually look where "Select all" is,
Move mouse down to "Select all",
Click,
Visually look where other program is,
Move mouse to other program,
Click to focus (Unless mouse-over-focus is on, in which case ignore this step),
Visually look where "Edit" menu is,
Move mouse to "Edit" menu,
Click,
Visually look where "Paste" is,
Move mouse down to "Paste",
Click,
Move mouse back to keyboard.
Total: 8 seconds.
There you go. My own piece of scientific research.
Bear in mind the mouse method will be slower with higher resolutions, as either the mouse will have further to go, or more accuracy will be required.
Sorry, but the guys who actually sit around with stopwatches (and, occasionally, EEGs and CAT scanners) to quantify this sort of thing disagree with you.
Well, here's me with my stopwatch:
Ctrl+C :.5 seconds.
Move hand to mouse : 0.5 seconds.
Move cursor to "Edit" menu : 1.0 seconds.
Click on menu and move down to "Copy" : 1.0 seconds.
Total: 2.5 seconds.
Yeah, using the mouse is far faster than using the keyboard. 0.2 times faster in fact.
So, in order to get basic, fundamental functionality (remote admin), which is free and standard with Linux, with Windows you have to expensively upgrade the OS of every single computer?
"Why 3rd world countries have to pay eternally snowballing debts?"
Because they borrowed money in the first place.
Borrowing money without paying it back is stealing. These criminal countries are STEALING. Cancelling their debts and letting them get away with this STEALING is insane.
American business don't have to compete, they can get themselves a.us. Oh sorry, I forgot, Americans are too ashamed of their own country to show it in their domain name
I wholly support globalisation, but I detest MS, Disney, McDonalds etc. Not because of globalisation, but because of crap, over-priced, dumbed-down products.
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So, what are you advocating as a replacement for money? How would you go about trading things without such a common trading-thing like money?
You say no worker in the Nike plant gets to wear Nike. Well, no-one forcing them to work there either.
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You didn't vote for it? Every time someone buys something from McDonalds or Starbucks, they are supporting globalism. If people didn't want globalism, then they would stop going to those places. Simple.
And religion has been replaced with shallow consumerism.
Religion should never have been there in the first place, so this is a non-issue.
The real problem of globalization is the American attitude which puts individual freedom above just about every other principle
I don't see how that is a problem. Individual freedom is the most important principle there is.
We put family and religion first. We do not care about your profit motive.
If people didn't care about profit motive, then why does everyone go to Starbucks or McDonalds (It can't be because of their quality cuisine)?
We will eventually win, because we will eventually stop buying into your culture of greed.
If you anti-globalisationists are so sure of winning, what are you complaining about? Surely if everyone was against globalisation, then no-one would support these large corporations, and would shop at local shops. Correct?
"I have an exercise you might try. Have someone hit you. You don't hate them, so you won't retiate. They hit you again, only harder. You don't retaliate, again, because you don't "hate.""
I have a more accurate exercise. Have someone hit you, then they run off. You don't know where the person is, so you go round headbutting people at random.
That is much more of an analogy to America's actions in Afghanistan.
Slashdot Mirror
But then you wouldn't go to Slashdot!
Non-standard, or non-popular hardware is always a hassle, where with Windows you get the driver supplied with it
Nothing to do with Linux, all to do with Windows' monopoly.
A Windows support person (I was one) could easily walk my grandmother through the process of putting the cd into the drive, clicking the right things, etc
I could say the same about Linux. Actually, the support person could just ssh and install it for them.
The required steps to get hardward working good under Linux can be (and often are) much, much more complicated and time consuming
Installing a quick module, or selecting from a list seems much simpler than the hassle of sorting out hardware in Windows, with countless reboots, conflicts and things going wrong.
trying to compile a new application from source
Erm, how easy is that under Windows compared to Linux? At least Linux comes with decent compilers, taking the pain out of compiling programs.
discovering it needs version x of some lib, downloading that lib, discovering it needs version y of some other lib, downloading that, etc. etc. etc
Sounds just like the hassle I've had with various vbrun and similar libraries, whereas with Linux I can just type "apt-get install program", and this will be all sorted out.
The home end user is accustomed to adding new software continually, and would not be able to do this on Linux
Erm, the end user ISN'T used to continually adding software. Either it comes preinstalled, or they get someone to do it. With Linux, then can just use apt-get, or just get someone to ssh in and do it for them.
Not yet anyway.
Why? Haven't they got apt-get?
Why would they bother with XP? It's just 2000 but with extra patronisation and graphics that look like they were drawn with wax crayons.
It's nice to have actual cds.
Until the CDs get run over or scraped.
The difference is, that cutting this very part of the woman's genital leads to less pleasure in sex
And I suppose all the pain whilst having sex with a circumcised penis wouldn't lead to less pleasure. And all those nerve-endings lost won't make any difference at all.
Speak with a fellow jew and ask him in what ways "chopping off the end of your dick" did affect him
Seeing as he would have nothing to compare it to, that wouldn't be very useless. But you can simulate what it would be like with no foreskin. Simply hold back your foreskin really tightly, and then proceed to have a wank, with the skin constantly held back. Then tell me how comfortable it is compared to wanking with a free foreskin.
Still ... your right to talk about, or not talk about, female circumcision isn't the problem. It's the fact that there are countries in the world that allow it, by law, that's the problem.
Why just female circumcision? Why about male circumcision? Isn't the real problem countries which allow any form of circumcision?
Or are you just one of those hypocritical feminists?
If the people in europe believe hate sites are bad, while its not right to totally censor, they do have a right to make it difficult to host a hate site, by setting rules in place that make hosting a hate sitee difficult
Maybe all the krauts and frogs should learn not to be so fucking sensitive.
And they can stick their single currency up their arses.
Yes, you don't have to worry, as you don't get a choice. With Linux, you can either choose a BSD-like distro, or a Windows-like distro, or something completely different. No "one size fits all" philosophy as with Windows or BSD
Didn't your grandmother ever tell that nothing in life is free
You're right, Windows may be free, but you only get a basic, amateurish, childish OS, with very little in terms of functionality. You get what you pay for I'm afraid, and if you want stability, reliability, configurability, an enourmous selection of amazing software and a professional, well-rounded OS, you need to spend lots of money on Linux. Wait a minute, that doesn't sound right...
2. Convenience
Yes, it's conventient not having to reboot, reinstall, mess about with activation, earn money for expensive upgrades, sit in front of your computer in case an irritating dialogue box comes up asking you if you're REALLY sure you want to do what you just told it to do, go round finding things off the Internet because nearly nothing is included, have to click about 70 "next" buttons and rebooting just to install a program, have to spend ages removing spyware, trojans, viruses etc. Linux is quite convenient indeed.
4. A Masters Degree in Computer Engineering just to TRY to interpret it
You'd need one of those to interpret Window's awkward error messages. Linux on the other hand isn't so cryptic, opaque and badly documented, so it is simple to diagnose problems, or to get someone to telnet in and do it for you.
how much time will I spend just TRYING to figure out what's going on with my PC?
Yes, how much time will you spend trying to figure out what those blue screens and wierd error messages mean. Maybe it would be easier to reinstall?
I like XP; but that's my OPINION. Now THAT'S diversity.
My idea of diversity doesn't include having to ring up MS and BEG to use my own computer.
Hideous? It's one of the features that makes Opera better than all other browsers. Are you seriously saying you open a completely new window on the main taskbar for every single browsing window you open? That must be absolute agony to work with. The only browser that comes close to this functionality is Galeon, and that's slow as fuck.
See the international figures about economy as well.
Is that before or after the 95% taxes?
See our social advance
Yes, you can't even sell Nazi memorabilia without being fined/arrested. Such social advance.
see our advance in respect of human rights
Yes, you can't even own war memorabilia without being victimised by the fascist government. You can barely earn a living without it all being taxed away. What human rights.
see our advance in health
I'm surprised you can afford it with all those taxes. Oh, I forgot, most of you frogs don't have the ability to earn anything for yourself, you have to get everything at the taxpayer's expense.
do you know Concorde?
Yes, but I can't afford it. Maybe you could though if the majority of your earnings weren't taken by the government to handout to everyone else.
My culture is European
No such thing as European culture.
Hmmm...for a start I'd like a cite for those statistics. Secondly, you said deaths, not deaths caused by the availability of guns. If guns are legal in one country, and people are constantly knifing each other, and in another country, where guns are illegal, everyone is nice and peaceful, it doesn't prove a thing.
Thirdly, you never said how many of those deaths were suicides or self-defence. Fourthly, you didn't cite your source!
Also, I'd like to know how banning guns would solve this problem, and how many problems it would cause. Gun crime in the UK has gone up around 40% since guns were banned a few years ago (For a citation, go to any British news site and check the archives for a few months ago). Secondly, how do you expect to defend yourself against armed attackers without a gun?
So, let's illegalise the selling of certain war-memorabilia. That ought to stop people killing each other. Great idea.
I live in Vietnam, let me show you round... See that old guy over there? His father was killed in US bombing raids. That old Vietnamese woman ovet there? They was raped by several US soldiers when she was 12. See that sign to 'My-Lai' over there? You should go and see that village. One day the US came and slaughtered everyone, including women and children. Ban all US memorabilia now.
.inc, .llc, .ltd,
.com?
.npo for non-profit organizations.
.org?
What's wrong with
And maybe
What ever happened to
*every* Linux UI I've used has been worse by a huge margin, either in terms of speed, or refusal to have standard ways of doing things across all apps (copy/cut/paste/etc) or *UGLY* graphics and fonts
Worse? I haven't seen a Windows UI anywhere near what I can acheive on Linux. With Windows, I don't even have multiple desktops, virtual desktops or even snapping windows! Can you believe how crippled the Windows UI is? No, neither can I!
Did I happen to mention keybindings for things like close, maximise etc aren't even configurable on Windows, whereas it is a basic feature on Linux?
And I do mean ugly.
Let's let the readers judge for themselves:
Windows
Linux
Did I mention Windows doesn't even have snapping Windows? I can't get over that. But I suppose once you're used to Linux, you take such basic functionality for granted.
OK, I've got a scientific method for you.
Experiment 1: Copy and paste everything in one window to the next window.
Keyboard:
Ctrl+A,
Ctrl+C,
Alt+tab,
Ctrl+V,
Total: 1 seconds.
Mouse:
Move hand to mouse,
Visually look where "Edit" menu is,
Click on menu,
Visually look where "Select all" is,
Move mouse down to "Select all",
Click,
Visually look where other program is,
Move mouse to other program,
Click to focus (Unless mouse-over-focus is on, in which case ignore this step),
Visually look where "Edit" menu is,
Move mouse to "Edit" menu,
Click,
Visually look where "Paste" is,
Move mouse down to "Paste",
Click,
Move mouse back to keyboard.
Total: 8 seconds.
There you go. My own piece of scientific research.
Bear in mind the mouse method will be slower with higher resolutions, as either the mouse will have further to go, or more accuracy will be required.
Sorry, but the guys who actually sit around with stopwatches (and, occasionally, EEGs and CAT scanners) to quantify this sort of thing disagree with you.
.5 seconds.
Move hand to mouse : 0.5 seconds.
Move cursor to "Edit" menu : 1.0 seconds.
Click on menu and move down to "Copy" : 1.0 seconds.
Total: 2.5 seconds.
Yeah, using the mouse is far faster than using the keyboard. 0.2 times faster in fact.
Well, here's me with my stopwatch: Ctrl+C :
So, in order to get basic, fundamental functionality (remote admin), which is free and standard with Linux, with Windows you have to expensively upgrade the OS of every single computer?
"Why 3rd world countries have to pay eternally snowballing debts?"
Because they borrowed money in the first place.
Borrowing money without paying it back is stealing. These criminal countries are STEALING. Cancelling their debts and letting them get away with this STEALING is insane.
American business don't have to compete, they can get themselves a .us. Oh sorry, I forgot, Americans are too ashamed of their own country to show it in their domain name
I wholly support globalisation, but I detest MS, Disney, McDonalds etc. Not because of globalisation, but because of crap, over-priced, dumbed-down products.
So, what are you advocating as a replacement for money? How would you go about trading things without such a common trading-thing like money?
You say no worker in the Nike plant gets to wear Nike. Well, no-one forcing them to work there either.
You didn't vote for it? Every time someone buys something from McDonalds or Starbucks, they are supporting globalism. If people didn't want globalism, then they would stop going to those places. Simple.
And religion has been replaced with shallow consumerism.
Religion should never have been there in the first place, so this is a non-issue.
The real problem of globalization is the American attitude which puts individual freedom above just about every other principle
I don't see how that is a problem. Individual freedom is the most important principle there is.
We put family and religion first. We do not care about your profit motive.
If people didn't care about profit motive, then why does everyone go to Starbucks or McDonalds (It can't be because of their quality cuisine)?
We will eventually win, because we will eventually stop buying into your culture of greed.
If you anti-globalisationists are so sure of winning, what are you complaining about? Surely if everyone was against globalisation, then no-one would support these large corporations, and would shop at local shops. Correct?
And then your IRAs
What have the IRA got to do with this?
"I have an exercise you might try. Have someone hit you. You don't hate them, so you won't retiate. They hit you again, only harder. You don't retaliate, again, because you don't "hate.""
I have a more accurate exercise. Have someone hit you, then they run off. You don't know where the person is, so you go round headbutting people at random.
That is much more of an analogy to America's actions in Afghanistan.