This. The 1% are thriving by convincing everyone that it's all the white males fault.
That statement is at best incomplete. The 1% is also trying to convince the white males that it's the fault of the women or minorities or whoever. Trump was really successful in telling poor white males that without having any credibility.
Trump was a protest vote and a warning. I can only speak for myself, but I am willing to support anyone who campaigns on a platform of economic justice where that justice is not equal for everyone despite what they do or not do (ie communism) but is instead based on a living wage for all who work (emphasis on work) and less inequality. To that end I recognize that the 99% includes many I will not agree with and I can agree to disagree and leave it at that to focus on economics. Can you say the same?
If you live in a Western first world country you are part of the 1%.
I don't think you're familiar with how math works. Or do you define Western first world country in such a way that the total population there is only 75 million. I'm curious to know which it is for you.
This guy takes the conclusion from them that women are inherently less capable than the men.
Differences in temperament would make a person better suited for some jobs and less suited for others. Painted one way this is an upside since there are many roles that need to be filled and some people will excel at any of them. The downside, if you subscribe to affirmative action, is that everything won't be evenly distributed. While people may be equal before the law they are not in fact equal at everything. It's patently obvious yet somehow to state it means you hate some group of people.
Affirmative action is to liberals what global warming is to conservatives.
I agree with you if you substitute "affirmative action" with "quotas". Affirmative action is just a system where you measure your hiring and employee mix vs. the available pool of candidates to make sure you don't have bias in your system. Sometimes you need to take concrete steps to counter this bias, but only foolish companies use quotas. More often it would be focused recruiting to improve the candidate pool.
Affirmative action is doomed to fail because it accounts for discrepancies as bias while there could be other reasons. It's about as accurate a world view as expecting an even number of cars on the road at all times and wondering why there is a bias against 3AM since there are few cars then while 8AM has tons.
No, you're perfectly safe to speak out--as long as it's in agreement.
No, you are allowed to disagree as long as you follow the Code of Conduct. That is, you disagreement may not be discordant with the general consensus or groupthink. So you may disagree as long as your disagreement is in agreement with everyone else.
"If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." - originally by Cardinal Richelieu but replace hang with fire and you have Google HR and their code of conduct.
Or just take up a hobby in real life. You'll be much happier and more fulfilled with the added bonus of knowing that you're not contributing to media companies.
... why there are less women in tech. Why is this surprising?
Women have evolved to be caretakers and nurturers. They tend to enjoy those types of fields more than solving technical problems. They tend to go into the healthcare and social welfare fields 4.5x more than men, and education 2x as much as men.
Does this mean they CAN'T be interested in tech, or that they CAN'T solve technical problems? No, however saying there is absolutely no biological reason why there are less women in IT than men is like saying there's absolutely no biological reason why there are less women in construction than men. They simply don't want to do it as much.
While this is about as obvious as saying that the sun rose this morning, it's a good thing you don't work at Google - they'd have to fire you right about now. Truth is no defense sadly since the original essay (yes I actually read it) had numerous citations.
I really want to support those against this PC bullshit, but these two things do not jive together. Is it an average, or a base? Pick one. Can't have both.
Logic doesn't apply to PC dogma, never has and never will. An example is that while white people are a minority in certain areas they still won't get minority status. Along the same lines, the more numerous latinos will get minority status despite not being a minority.
As I read the memo, it acknowledge that sexism was an issue. Even in the first paragraph.
I think not rationally responding to someone's point is becoming rampant in tech.
To be fair replying to articulate points has never been a strength of the PC crowd. They rely on dogma enforced by mobs. Facts are generally inconvenient for them and are best avoided.
This. The 1% are thriving by convincing everyone that it's all the white males fault. Most white males aren't part of the 1% however by protecting themselves they keep the mob somewhat at bay and by extension protect the 1%. If you ever want to stop the 1% then think of all the fragments required to piece together a 99% (hint that will include deplorables and others that you don't like). Until you're willing to stop insisting on complete agreement with any given agenda other than economics the 1% will thrive while the peons argue about bathrooms, abortion, guns, and , in this case, benign essays.
I grieve because 'we are the 99%' is a brilliant slogan and an absolutely spot on argument. Unfortunately it's just too easy to fragment the 99% into much smaller groups and get them to fight each other while the middle class declines further.
The may be in trouble for firing him, but they would have been in trouble, too, if they didn't.
Or can you tolerate someone against diversity and hostile towards women when you're under scrutiny and already in trouble for not being diverse enough and having a workplace climate hostile to women?
All that is left for Google now is to guess which side will be cheaper to settle with.
It's obvious that you didn't read the article. Please point out the section where he was hostile. The document is found here:
https://www.documentcloud.org/...
I'm still not seeing Google take any action towards the real problem here. What are they going to do about the hostile environment they have made for conservative employees?
Nothing. This is California, they hate conservatives here. Hating on conservatives here is expected and rewarded, never punished. The state government is less likely to stand up for a conservative being mistreated than the KKK is for a black person. For an example of this see how they treated the people who beat up Trump supporters. They were essentially saying violence is bad but we see where you were coming from and it was so just and deserved that we'll give you a pass. Just don't make a habit of it.
Even if the memo had any value, which it did not, keeping Damore as an employee would be impossible for Google - and that's before it even got leaked. He wrote a piece basically explaining how he feels 20% of his coworkers were unjustly hired. Few things are more toxic for a workplace.
You're missing the point that they probably were unjustly hired and that having less competent employees eventually catches up to you. Less competent yet protected co-workers are also toxic as everyone knows who isn't carrying their weight.
I'll give you an example. Where I work a few years ago they decided that they needed a female board member. I wasn't involved in the selection but I question her capabilities since they excluded half the population in their search. Maybe she would have been the best new board member without help but I doubt it since they had decided in advance what the gender would be and excluded the rest.
Yep, the First Amendment guarantees that politicians can be bought.
Actually the Supreme Court guarantees it. Lets put the blame where it belongs. Also lets note that it can be overturned. Instead of focusing on abortion as the sole point of a nominees acceptability lets switch to their position on the fraud known as "Citizens United vs FEC".
However this close nit community also has a lot of herding mentality. While Independent in nature, they also need to rely on everyone. So chances are they may change their personal belief, if that is what the others strongly think.
And the bastard who everyone hates, may also be the only guy who is not afraid to tell you the truth.
My experience is that the liberal cities (ie coastal California) are as herd mentality as they come. They have to be, anything else is a firing offense.
I know right. It should only be CNN, Washington Post, Slate, and HuffPost allowed. Anything else is a bastion of the Alt-right and deplorables and therefore doesn't count.
Sadly, we live in a world where "evolution didn't happen" or "climate change is a hoax" or "vaccines cause autism" are considered political opinions rather than anti-rational nonsense that should disqualify you from any job that involves science or thinking.
So yeah your political opinions do say something about your competence.
Brave man to say the approved opinions. I wonder when Obama will write his own little red book.
Most of the elected representatives are my age or older. I went to school with kids who had been injured by thalidomide (hi Anthony, wherever you are!) They are going to be very careful about pharma.
And yes, the pharma companies have the best government they could buy, I can't deny that either.
I am fine with drug imports if they are what they say they are, and are made with compliance to health-based standards. But somebody has to audit all of them. There is no shortage of quacks and thieves.
Simply get them directly from Canada or another 1st world country. This isn't as hard as it's made out to be if we look for solutions instead of excuses.
People bringing with them cold hard cash, and spending them in USA = boon for the economy
People bringing nothing, and actually sending whatever money they make back to their original country to feed their relatives back home = drain on the economy
People with skills who produce wealth = boon for the economy
People with no marketable skill who collect entitlements = drain on the economy
In the 60's, when the US dropped all sane policies with PC ones, immigration law was changed from favoring immigrants likely to help the economy (ie skills based) with immigrants unlikely to help the economy (ie family based). We've seen the results and it is obvious to anyone to who looks around. California went from leading class infrastructure and quality of life to where we are today - hopeless infrastructure and mired in debt. Schools went from leading class to middling and worse. Huge steps backwards all around. While immigration isn't responsible for all of this, anyone with an ear can hear that the character changed to largely Spanish in SoCal. In essence we are becoming like Mexico, which is a huge step backwards. Politicians won't speak the truth because the truth is unpopular and hurts. Returning immigration to something that helps the country will benefit the citizens and is about as common sense as it gets. Yes, some businesses will have to pay more for their labor. However the benefits to the citizens will be immense. I hope it passes. To those who jump to the racism charge - I don't hate Mexicans I just don't want to live in Mexico or a close approximation. Neither do you if you care to be honest.
This is the Mr. Shkreli who Daraprim from $13.50 to $750/pill. Daraprim is an antiparasitic drug, used to treat pneumonia in conjunction with HIV, toxoplasmosis (sometimes called "mad cat lady disease") and another really nasty parasitic disease.
When you do stuff like that, people look really closely at whatever else you are doing.
It also led Imprimis to make a $1/pill replacement for the drug.
Or just a lead aspirin (only half kidding). In any case this shows quite well how not letting us import drugs from other countries is an utter scam. We can have "free trade" deals so that all the drugs are made overseas yet we can't buy them from overseas. Utter scam - and it shows how neither D nor R is really on your side as both have had a chance to change this.
I completely disagree. He should not spend a whole lot of time in an 8 x 10 cell by himself.
Shkreli should spend a whole lot of time in an 8 x 10 cell with a 300-pound oversexed lifer who's hung like a donkey.
While Shkreli no doubt deserves a ton of punishment relying on prison inmates to mete out justice really speaks to the inadequacy of our "justice" system. Criminals are far more likely to prey on the weak than on the deserving. Since about half of all rapes occur while in the government's possession the best way to combat rape is to reduce this. There is literally no better place to start in terms of numbers.
Mozilla lost me when they decided one's political activities had to be approved or else. When your politics determine if you're fit to lead that's pathetic.
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That statement is at best incomplete. The 1% is also trying to convince the white males that it's the fault of the women or minorities or whoever. Trump was really successful in telling poor white males that without having any credibility.
Trump was a protest vote and a warning. I can only speak for myself, but I am willing to support anyone who campaigns on a platform of economic justice where that justice is not equal for everyone despite what they do or not do (ie communism) but is instead based on a living wage for all who work (emphasis on work) and less inequality. To that end I recognize that the 99% includes many I will not agree with and I can agree to disagree and leave it at that to focus on economics. Can you say the same?
If you live in a Western first world country you are part of the 1%.
I don't think you're familiar with how math works. Or do you define Western first world country in such a way that the total population there is only 75 million. I'm curious to know which it is for you.
This guy takes the conclusion from them that women are inherently less capable than the men.
Differences in temperament would make a person better suited for some jobs and less suited for others. Painted one way this is an upside since there are many roles that need to be filled and some people will excel at any of them. The downside, if you subscribe to affirmative action, is that everything won't be evenly distributed. While people may be equal before the law they are not in fact equal at everything. It's patently obvious yet somehow to state it means you hate some group of people.
Affirmative action is to liberals what global warming is to conservatives.
I agree with you if you substitute "affirmative action" with "quotas". Affirmative action is just a system where you measure your hiring and employee mix vs. the available pool of candidates to make sure you don't have bias in your system. Sometimes you need to take concrete steps to counter this bias, but only foolish companies use quotas. More often it would be focused recruiting to improve the candidate pool.
Affirmative action is doomed to fail because it accounts for discrepancies as bias while there could be other reasons. It's about as accurate a world view as expecting an even number of cars on the road at all times and wondering why there is a bias against 3AM since there are few cars then while 8AM has tons.
No, you're perfectly safe to speak out--as long as it's in agreement.
No, you are allowed to disagree as long as you follow the Code of Conduct. That is, you disagreement may not be discordant with the general consensus or groupthink. So you may disagree as long as your disagreement is in agreement with everyone else.
"If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." - originally by Cardinal Richelieu but replace hang with fire and you have Google HR and their code of conduct.
Ticketmaster is a complete scam and allowing them to merge with Livenation and others shows that the US gov is as anti-consumer as they come.
..or install another streaming application.
Or just take up a hobby in real life. You'll be much happier and more fulfilled with the added bonus of knowing that you're not contributing to media companies.
Let me get this straight - all the hot women were on the same floor. Where do I sign up?
... why there are less women in tech. Why is this surprising?
Women have evolved to be caretakers and nurturers. They tend to enjoy those types of fields more than solving technical problems. They tend to go into the healthcare and social welfare fields 4.5x more than men, and education 2x as much as men.
Does this mean they CAN'T be interested in tech, or that they CAN'T solve technical problems? No, however saying there is absolutely no biological reason why there are less women in IT than men is like saying there's absolutely no biological reason why there are less women in construction than men. They simply don't want to do it as much.
While this is about as obvious as saying that the sun rose this morning, it's a good thing you don't work at Google - they'd have to fire you right about now. Truth is no defense sadly since the original essay (yes I actually read it) had numerous citations.
I really want to support those against this PC bullshit, but these two things do not jive together. Is it an average, or a base? Pick one. Can't have both.
Logic doesn't apply to PC dogma, never has and never will. An example is that while white people are a minority in certain areas they still won't get minority status. Along the same lines, the more numerous latinos will get minority status despite not being a minority.
As I read the memo, it acknowledge that sexism was an issue. Even in the first paragraph.
I think not rationally responding to someone's point is becoming rampant in tech.
To be fair replying to articulate points has never been a strength of the PC crowd. They rely on dogma enforced by mobs. Facts are generally inconvenient for them and are best avoided.
Most white males don't have any power.
This. The 1% are thriving by convincing everyone that it's all the white males fault. Most white males aren't part of the 1% however by protecting themselves they keep the mob somewhat at bay and by extension protect the 1%. If you ever want to stop the 1% then think of all the fragments required to piece together a 99% (hint that will include deplorables and others that you don't like). Until you're willing to stop insisting on complete agreement with any given agenda other than economics the 1% will thrive while the peons argue about bathrooms, abortion, guns, and , in this case, benign essays.
I grieve because 'we are the 99%' is a brilliant slogan and an absolutely spot on argument. Unfortunately it's just too easy to fragment the 99% into much smaller groups and get them to fight each other while the middle class declines further.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't
The may be in trouble for firing him, but they would have been in trouble, too, if they didn't.
Or can you tolerate someone against diversity and hostile towards women when you're under scrutiny and already in trouble for not being diverse enough and having a workplace climate hostile to women?
All that is left for Google now is to guess which side will be cheaper to settle with.
It's obvious that you didn't read the article. Please point out the section where he was hostile. The document is found here: https://www.documentcloud.org/...
I'm still not seeing Google take any action towards the real problem here. What are they going to do about the hostile environment they have made for conservative employees?
Nothing. This is California, they hate conservatives here. Hating on conservatives here is expected and rewarded, never punished. The state government is less likely to stand up for a conservative being mistreated than the KKK is for a black person. For an example of this see how they treated the people who beat up Trump supporters. They were essentially saying violence is bad but we see where you were coming from and it was so just and deserved that we'll give you a pass. Just don't make a habit of it.
Even if the memo had any value, which it did not, keeping Damore as an employee would be impossible for Google - and that's before it even got leaked. He wrote a piece basically explaining how he feels 20% of his coworkers were unjustly hired. Few things are more toxic for a workplace.
You're missing the point that they probably were unjustly hired and that having less competent employees eventually catches up to you. Less competent yet protected co-workers are also toxic as everyone knows who isn't carrying their weight.
I'll give you an example. Where I work a few years ago they decided that they needed a female board member. I wasn't involved in the selection but I question her capabilities since they excluded half the population in their search. Maybe she would have been the best new board member without help but I doubt it since they had decided in advance what the gender would be and excluded the rest.
REALLY?
Yep, the First Amendment guarantees that politicians can be bought.
Actually the Supreme Court guarantees it. Lets put the blame where it belongs. Also lets note that it can be overturned. Instead of focusing on abortion as the sole point of a nominees acceptability lets switch to their position on the fraud known as "Citizens United vs FEC".
However this close nit community also has a lot of herding mentality. While Independent in nature, they also need to rely on everyone. So chances are they may change their personal belief, if that is what the others strongly think. And the bastard who everyone hates, may also be the only guy who is not afraid to tell you the truth.
My experience is that the liberal cities (ie coastal California) are as herd mentality as they come. They have to be, anything else is a firing offense.
Citation:
http://www.npr.org/2017/08/08/...
I know right. It should only be CNN, Washington Post, Slate, and HuffPost allowed. Anything else is a bastion of the Alt-right and deplorables and therefore doesn't count.
Sadly, we live in a world where "evolution didn't happen" or "climate change is a hoax" or "vaccines cause autism" are considered political opinions rather than anti-rational nonsense that should disqualify you from any job that involves science or thinking.
So yeah your political opinions do say something about your competence.
Brave man to say the approved opinions. I wonder when Obama will write his own little red book.
Most of the elected representatives are my age or older. I went to school with kids who had been injured by thalidomide (hi Anthony, wherever you are!) They are going to be very careful about pharma.
And yes, the pharma companies have the best government they could buy, I can't deny that either.
I am fine with drug imports if they are what they say they are, and are made with compliance to health-based standards. But somebody has to audit all of them. There is no shortage of quacks and thieves.
Simply get them directly from Canada or another 1st world country. This isn't as hard as it's made out to be if we look for solutions instead of excuses.
because not all immigrants are alike.
People bringing with them cold hard cash, and spending them in USA = boon for the economy
People bringing nothing, and actually sending whatever money they make back to their original country to feed their relatives back home = drain on the economy
People with skills who produce wealth = boon for the economy
People with no marketable skill who collect entitlements = drain on the economy
In the 60's, when the US dropped all sane policies with PC ones, immigration law was changed from favoring immigrants likely to help the economy (ie skills based) with immigrants unlikely to help the economy (ie family based). We've seen the results and it is obvious to anyone to who looks around. California went from leading class infrastructure and quality of life to where we are today - hopeless infrastructure and mired in debt. Schools went from leading class to middling and worse. Huge steps backwards all around. While immigration isn't responsible for all of this, anyone with an ear can hear that the character changed to largely Spanish in SoCal. In essence we are becoming like Mexico, which is a huge step backwards. Politicians won't speak the truth because the truth is unpopular and hurts. Returning immigration to something that helps the country will benefit the citizens and is about as common sense as it gets. Yes, some businesses will have to pay more for their labor. However the benefits to the citizens will be immense. I hope it passes. To those who jump to the racism charge - I don't hate Mexicans I just don't want to live in Mexico or a close approximation. Neither do you if you care to be honest.
This is the Mr. Shkreli who Daraprim from $13.50 to $750/pill. Daraprim is an antiparasitic drug, used to treat pneumonia in conjunction with HIV, toxoplasmosis (sometimes called "mad cat lady disease") and another really nasty parasitic disease.
When you do stuff like that, people look really closely at whatever else you are doing.
It also led Imprimis to make a $1/pill replacement for the drug.
Or just a lead aspirin (only half kidding). In any case this shows quite well how not letting us import drugs from other countries is an utter scam. We can have "free trade" deals so that all the drugs are made overseas yet we can't buy them from overseas. Utter scam - and it shows how neither D nor R is really on your side as both have had a chance to change this.
I completely disagree. He should not spend a whole lot of time in an 8 x 10 cell by himself.
Shkreli should spend a whole lot of time in an 8 x 10 cell with a 300-pound oversexed lifer who's hung like a donkey.
While Shkreli no doubt deserves a ton of punishment relying on prison inmates to mete out justice really speaks to the inadequacy of our "justice" system. Criminals are far more likely to prey on the weak than on the deserving. Since about half of all rapes occur while in the government's possession the best way to combat rape is to reduce this. There is literally no better place to start in terms of numbers.
citations:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
Just think, you can't even say all lives matter now without someone complaining. Who knew it would get so crazy.
Citation:
http://www.slate.com/articles/...