"Crazy left wing sites". The irony of it is that those sites would be moderate, fence sitters in any other country.
What keeps the left at bay is that they openly mock and disparage ~61% of the US. Other countries don't have the issues with 'white privilege' and other silly notions. Economic justice for all gets hijacked by 'economic reparations for $historical_wrong' and thus never happens. The US needs a workers party for citizens badly. A workers party would never be confused with the party of open borders.
I hit send before adding links:
Obama has many failures but the ones I am most against are:
- National debt more than doubled (>120% increase)
- Identity politics set country back decades
Citation:
https://www.debtconsolidation....
Fun reading:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/id...
Both sides are not the same. Stop it with that stupid trope. Obama and the democrats let the Bush tax cuts expire and raised the taxes on the rich. They're doing exactly what you asked. So go support them. Don't wait for your soulmate to be on the ballot box.
It's not a stupid trope, it's quite accurate. Here's a whole list of reasons why:
I'm in the middle class. Do Democrats help me? No. They might help the welfare recipients or illegals but not me. I'm a tax payer far more than a tax recipient. Do Republicans help me - no so much either, but at least they don't hate me because of my skin color, gender, or religion. I'm very much in favor of a workers party but we don't really have one in this country.
Nobody "stole" any elections. Hillary (It's Her Turn) Clinton lost in the same way as she lost to Obama, by being Hillary. If she's the best the Democrat party can deliver, the Democrat party will be out of office even if Drumpf resigns and is imprisoned.
Of course, this time the Democrat party can try with Pocahontas...
They know this, thus the push for importing millions of people illegally then making them voters. If you can drown out the actual citizens with a loyal constituency then you win. It will destroy the country and wreck standards of living but hey, you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.
Q: So who is paying for their employees' Social Security and SSI disability?
A: We are.
I'm more than a little bit tired of the wealthiest corporations and individuals paying proportionally less in taxes than even people in the bottom tax bracket. Giving tax breaks to help small businesses grow makes sense. Giving huge tax breaks to help one of the largest businesses in the world grow does not.
It's time for a tax revolution at the ballot box. Vote only for politicians who declare a willingness to make our tax code more fair and less protective of the wealthy. Raise capital gains taxes. Phase out corporate tax exemptions for companies earning more than 100M annually or add a business version of the alternative minimum tax. Make our tax system fair.
I'd love to but both parties are bought and paid for. The Democrats have a few fringe players who talk about reform they are not in power and are marginalized. Those types also typically hate me as a cis-gendered white male so why would I support them? The reason aggrieved groups are given such a microphone by media is that it keeps the spotlight off declining standards of living, wages going down, etc. BLM doesn't cost companies a thing after all.
And consumers pay all profits too, is that also a bad thing? Everyone knows that the tax scam is best played by multinationals and that's partly why smaller shops are closing down. Hard to compete with tax free. Taxes need to be more uniform or eventually the masses will get fed up and break out the guillotines.
Can't be done. Visa, Mastercard, and Amex all have clauses forbidding those cash discounts, which can cause a merchant's account to be pulled.
I'm pretty sure it can be done you just have to do it the right way. I see places all the time offer a ~2% cash discount but what you can't do is add on a 2% credit card fee.
China isn't going to take your guns. Their fifth column is going to do that in advance of an invasion. That's what the West Coast Wall is about. Make damned sure that when they land there won't be a civilian resistance. And they will have a secure beachhead. The supporters of this need to be investigated for treason.
Yeah, sure. The probability of a Chinese invasion is vanishingly small. But that doesn't excuse the activities of their advance guard.
If you've been to LA you'd know that it would serve them right to be taken over by the Chinese. I might just root for this plan.
I was just thinking this. Debating has lost a lot of legitimacy from things like this https://www.washingtontimes.co...
Sadly there is no intellect left, just party line non-sense. The non-sense portion was proved here https://www.chronicle.com/arti...
I get that not all colleges or professors are this way but when it's given a pass it tarnishes them all.
Why, so you can bury your head in the sand and sing la la la la la whilst we exterminate the planet? Sure there will be some slow down eventually but so far in Europe at least half the insects are dead already and we are heading for a disaster the likes of which we've never seen before if we don't change our rape and pollute the planet ways.
Does this mean that Europe will now import masses of insects from third world countries and call anyone who disagrees racist?
I don't see why some congressional oversight is needed -- just block VPN apps on government owned laptops. If employees are using the apps on their personal devices, they should not have sensitive government data on those devices.
Yeah. Next they'll be saying no using our own webservers and the like. The nerve of some people.
Lying to congress always has got people in trouble.
There's *lots* of people who have lied to congress and not gotten in trouble. Remember this guy https://www.usatoday.com/story...
Sorry but Trumps main crime is that he wasn't the establishments choice. He certainly has his faults but to pretend that Hillary would stand up to scrutiny is to forget the email server issue that would have landed any 'normal' person in jail no questions asked. Note that this is not so much to excuse Trump as to say that *all* guilty parties need to be locked up. I personally love the bipartisan approach of locking up both the Clintons and the Trumps.
Free college is a bad idea as many people just want to avoid joining the working world - college is fun.
I don't know where you get the idea that lots of people want to avoid joining the workforce. People don't get PhDs because college is fun. If you think college is fun then you weren't focused on education. Clearly the sports and frats need to go in order to get people like you to focus.
"People like me". That's funny. I didn't play sports, I didn't join a frat. I did enjoy the experience though. I guess that somehow makes me and "people like me" bad people.
You're conflating immigrants with illegal immigrants. Legal immigrants as a group are less likely to take advantage of us. Illegal immigrants, and anchor babies, are far more likely to take advantage.
It's been shown time and again that illegal immigrants 1) contribute more than they consume and 2) commit less crimes than the background rate, because they are trying to keep a low profile. So even if they are more likely to take advantage, they're still a net positive. We also take actions that cause these people to come here, like when we interfere with their democratic processes, or with our War On Some Drugs. If you look at where people are coming from when they come here, it's overwhelmingly from countries we've shit upon in a well-documented fashion. If you don't want refugees here, then stop supporting politicians who will create them.
Since it's been shown time and time again how about some citations? I usually include some, and you haven't refuted the ones I listed.
We also take actions that cause these people to come here, like when we interfere with their democratic processes, or with our War On Some Drugs. If you look at where people are coming from when they come here, it's overwhelmingly from countries we've shit upon in a well-documented fashion.
If you feel bad about this, as some do, I propose that *you* take them in. That's an immigration process I could get behind. If you have skin in the game I suspect that you won't be quite so cavalier. Seriously though if you think that letting in immigrants even makes a dent then you need to see the scale o what we're talking about. Here's a quick video that will give you that perspective https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
As far as not messing up other countries, I'd be perfectly happy to see us pull back everything world wide. Doing it over a well defined time table would help prevent a power vacuum but if we started this year and finished in say 10 years I'd be thoroughly happy.
We get upset at CEOs who only care about the next quarters profits but as a species we rarely look ahead more than a year. Case in point everyone knew the Grand-banks fisheries off Canada's east coast were on the verge of collapse and yet we fished them right up to the point of nearly wiping out the cod there. Canadians dump more than 22 tons of GHG per person into the atmosphere (and BTW that's not counting the rotting pine forests). We beat the Americans by over 10% and yet we are doing almost nothing. If you can't get a well educated population that actually thinks climate change is a problem to change their ways there is no hope.
I get that fishing could be stopped but I don't see what the proposed solution to rotting pine forests is. In fact I hadn't heard of the problem but when I researched a few minutes what I think you're refering to is a beetle infestation. But it looks like that is not going to be a problem soon as found here: https://phys.org/news/2016-04-...
There are other options. We could limit legal immigration, stop illegal immigration, and retrain the workers.
Sorry but that wouldn't even help help because of the very short time period on which automation will wipe out a sector. As for retraining workers, what do you think training millions of people to do various trades is going to do to the wages of each trade?
Also, if we're supplying people with state-funded training then why aren't we supplying state-funded college education?
Any way it goes, they are the "welfare queen"s that they despise... they just don't know it.
It most definitely would 'help help'. It just wouldn't mitigate things fully. Retraining is cheaper than welfare. Retraining could be weighed against how much they have paid in taxes if that makes you feel better. Free college is a bad idea as many people just want to avoid joining the working world - college is fun. Having the meter running helps keep that impulse in check.
There's nothing wrong with them wanting that, but if you let them come and immediately give them handouts, that's what they'll come for and we'll go bankrupt trying to take care of them all.
Where's you're evidence for this? Immigrants pay taxes, just like everyone else. Immigrants are also less likely to take advantage of public services. If you look at something like social security, illegal immigrants are a boon for the system, because they are contributing to something that they will never be able to take advantage of. There are many, many economic benefits from immigration, and if we didn't have lots of immigration, we would be facing the same problems Japan is having. If you look at the GDP projections over the next few decades, the US is going to struggle to maintain economic dominance, just because population is exploding in many other countries, and GDP growth is tightly related to population. When you think about it, there are only two ways to increase GDP: add more people, or increase your per-capita GDP. China, India, and many countries in Africa have massive population growth, and are simultaneously improving per-capita GDP rapidly. Clamping down on immigration, which has made the US what it is, is going to slow our economic growth at a time when many other places are accelerating and becoming far more competitive.
But what the liberals are proposing now simply won't work. You can't have everyone come and then also take really good care of them.
Liberals aren't generally proposing this - they've voted regularly in favor of increased funding for border security.
You're conflating immigrants with illegal immigrants. Legal immigrants as a group are less likely to take advantage of us. Illegal immigrants, and anchor babies, are far more likely to take advantage. By mixing the positive stats of legal immigrants with the negative stats of illegal immigrants you're painting a rosy picture that isn't true. Indeed it's this type of shady use of language that keeps many Americans from understanding the true impacts of illegal immigration. Citations:
https://cis.org/Report/63-NonC...https://www.washingtonexaminer...
We could limit legal immigration, stop illegal immigration..
Can you explain why you're worried about immigrants taking your jobs, but fine with robots taking them?
What's your position on immigrant robots?
I didn't say I was fine with the robots, however I see that as being more beyond our control. Moreover robots could be used for the greater good, immigration can't. To help you understand the scale of mass immigration I'd suggest this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
In terms of why I suggested limiting immigration - it's simply that if robots create a shortage of jobs then limiting immigrants helps the citizens get the jobs that remain. Limited skilled immigration is a good thing. Mass immigration most certainly is not.
When the time comes and an entire sector is laid off in a period of a year or so, are we going to stick to our "free market" guns and leave these people to fend for themselves (hello crime wave) or will we do the right thing and implement something like UBI?
There are other options. We could limit legal immigration, stop illegal immigration, and retrain the workers. If only we had more politicians who were actually on the citizens side. I hope the US gets a working class party before things get too out of hand.
How so? How do open borders = death to the working class? Our most productive time in American history saw a large amount of immigration. The minimum wage ensures legal citizens are paid at least at the same starting point. Oh, you must mean those illegals, right? Hmm...and I wonder how they're getting jobs that place them below the federally mandated minimum wage? Oh, that's right, corporations. See an illegal in America doesn't work a job unless a company hires him to begin with. So the real death of the working class isn't Jose from Mexico, it's Bob the CEO from Fuck You, USA who is saying "I'm going to break the law and hire this person and pay them under the table at a severely reduced wage, because fuck America." Perhaps instead of a wall, we need mandatory background checks and employer new-hire reporting and auditing.
Can I assume that you're familiar with supply and demand and accept that overall it is a good explanation for things? There are many more employers than just Bob the CEO. Immigration, both legal and illegal, creates more workers. For the existing citizens this may or may not be a good thing, it depends on their circumstances. If you're Bob the CEO it's a great thing that there are more workers. If you already have money it's also a great thing since you now have more customers / renters / etc. If however you are a working person who is trying to earn a living there are more downsides than upsides. More people means housing costs go up. Traffic goes up. Schools are more crowded. Wages stagnate or sink. So yes, open borders == death to working class. That the party that claims it is the protector of the poor is pushing open borders is just too rich. The scale is too big for open borders to even succeed. If you're unsure about that, this video is worth 5 minutes of your time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
What straw man thing is it that you think a safe space is? I guarantee you're probably wrong.
Safe space: a place or environment in which a person or category of people can feel confident that they will not be exposed to discrimination, criticism, harassment, or any other emotional or physical harm.
Someone who is guaranteed to not be exposed to criticism is not emotionally strong and certainly isn't able to cope with different world views. Thus not a classic liberal.
Also, are you using the word classic as shorthand for ignorant deep-South?
That you use the South as a slur says more about you than Southerners. I suspect that you'd cal me names if I did something similar to your protected class of choice.
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"Crazy left wing sites". The irony of it is that those sites would be moderate, fence sitters in any other country.
What keeps the left at bay is that they openly mock and disparage ~61% of the US. Other countries don't have the issues with 'white privilege' and other silly notions. Economic justice for all gets hijacked by 'economic reparations for $historical_wrong' and thus never happens. The US needs a workers party for citizens badly. A workers party would never be confused with the party of open borders.
I hit send before adding links: Obama has many failures but the ones I am most against are: - National debt more than doubled (>120% increase) - Identity politics set country back decades Citation: https://www.debtconsolidation.... Fun reading: https://www.bostonglobe.com/id...
Both sides are not the same. Stop it with that stupid trope. Obama and the democrats let the Bush tax cuts expire and raised the taxes on the rich. They're doing exactly what you asked. So go support them. Don't wait for your soulmate to be on the ballot box.
It's not a stupid trope, it's quite accurate. Here's a whole list of reasons why: I'm in the middle class. Do Democrats help me? No. They might help the welfare recipients or illegals but not me. I'm a tax payer far more than a tax recipient. Do Republicans help me - no so much either, but at least they don't hate me because of my skin color, gender, or religion. I'm very much in favor of a workers party but we don't really have one in this country.
Nobody "stole" any elections. Hillary (It's Her Turn) Clinton lost in the same way as she lost to Obama, by being Hillary. If she's the best the Democrat party can deliver, the Democrat party will be out of office even if Drumpf resigns and is imprisoned.
Of course, this time the Democrat party can try with Pocahontas...
They know this, thus the push for importing millions of people illegally then making them voters. If you can drown out the actual citizens with a loyal constituency then you win. It will destroy the country and wreck standards of living but hey, you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.
Q: So who is paying for their employees' Social Security and SSI disability?
A: We are.
I'm more than a little bit tired of the wealthiest corporations and individuals paying proportionally less in taxes than even people in the bottom tax bracket. Giving tax breaks to help small businesses grow makes sense. Giving huge tax breaks to help one of the largest businesses in the world grow does not.
It's time for a tax revolution at the ballot box. Vote only for politicians who declare a willingness to make our tax code more fair and less protective of the wealthy. Raise capital gains taxes. Phase out corporate tax exemptions for companies earning more than 100M annually or add a business version of the alternative minimum tax. Make our tax system fair.
I'd love to but both parties are bought and paid for. The Democrats have a few fringe players who talk about reform they are not in power and are marginalized. Those types also typically hate me as a cis-gendered white male so why would I support them? The reason aggrieved groups are given such a microphone by media is that it keeps the spotlight off declining standards of living, wages going down, etc. BLM doesn't cost companies a thing after all.
And consumers pay all profits too, is that also a bad thing? Everyone knows that the tax scam is best played by multinationals and that's partly why smaller shops are closing down. Hard to compete with tax free. Taxes need to be more uniform or eventually the masses will get fed up and break out the guillotines.
Can't be done. Visa, Mastercard, and Amex all have clauses forbidding those cash discounts, which can cause a merchant's account to be pulled.
I'm pretty sure it can be done you just have to do it the right way. I see places all the time offer a ~2% cash discount but what you can't do is add on a 2% credit card fee.
You should see the cash discount the trades offer
Interesting sig. Were you on the committee that also redefined the word racism to be not even close to it's traditional and still common usage?
Yup. But when they come to take mine
China isn't going to take your guns. Their fifth column is going to do that in advance of an invasion. That's what the West Coast Wall is about. Make damned sure that when they land there won't be a civilian resistance. And they will have a secure beachhead. The supporters of this need to be investigated for treason.
Yeah, sure. The probability of a Chinese invasion is vanishingly small. But that doesn't excuse the activities of their advance guard.
If you've been to LA you'd know that it would serve them right to be taken over by the Chinese. I might just root for this plan.
I've seen this too. One of many reasons to be careful what you buy off Amazon vs other sources.
I was just thinking this. Debating has lost a lot of legitimacy from things like this https://www.washingtontimes.co... Sadly there is no intellect left, just party line non-sense. The non-sense portion was proved here https://www.chronicle.com/arti... I get that not all colleges or professors are this way but when it's given a pass it tarnishes them all.
Few expect logic from them. About the only qualification required is that she can say it with a straight face.
Why, so you can bury your head in the sand and sing la la la la la whilst we exterminate the planet? Sure there will be some slow down eventually but so far in Europe at least half the insects are dead already and we are heading for a disaster the likes of which we've never seen before if we don't change our rape and pollute the planet ways.
Does this mean that Europe will now import masses of insects from third world countries and call anyone who disagrees racist?
I don't see why some congressional oversight is needed -- just block VPN apps on government owned laptops. If employees are using the apps on their personal devices, they should not have sensitive government data on those devices.
Yeah. Next they'll be saying no using our own webservers and the like. The nerve of some people.
It's like AI run a muck but worse. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Lying to congress always has got people in trouble.
There's *lots* of people who have lied to congress and not gotten in trouble. Remember this guy https://www.usatoday.com/story... Sorry but Trumps main crime is that he wasn't the establishments choice. He certainly has his faults but to pretend that Hillary would stand up to scrutiny is to forget the email server issue that would have landed any 'normal' person in jail no questions asked. Note that this is not so much to excuse Trump as to say that *all* guilty parties need to be locked up. I personally love the bipartisan approach of locking up both the Clintons and the Trumps.
Free college is a bad idea as many people just want to avoid joining the working world - college is fun.
I don't know where you get the idea that lots of people want to avoid joining the workforce. People don't get PhDs because college is fun. If you think college is fun then you weren't focused on education. Clearly the sports and frats need to go in order to get people like you to focus.
"People like me". That's funny. I didn't play sports, I didn't join a frat. I did enjoy the experience though. I guess that somehow makes me and "people like me" bad people.
You're conflating immigrants with illegal immigrants. Legal immigrants as a group are less likely to take advantage of us. Illegal immigrants, and anchor babies, are far more likely to take advantage.
It's been shown time and again that illegal immigrants 1) contribute more than they consume and 2) commit less crimes than the background rate, because they are trying to keep a low profile. So even if they are more likely to take advantage, they're still a net positive. We also take actions that cause these people to come here, like when we interfere with their democratic processes, or with our War On Some Drugs. If you look at where people are coming from when they come here, it's overwhelmingly from countries we've shit upon in a well-documented fashion. If you don't want refugees here, then stop supporting politicians who will create them.
Since it's been shown time and time again how about some citations? I usually include some, and you haven't refuted the ones I listed.
We also take actions that cause these people to come here, like when we interfere with their democratic processes, or with our War On Some Drugs. If you look at where people are coming from when they come here, it's overwhelmingly from countries we've shit upon in a well-documented fashion.
If you feel bad about this, as some do, I propose that *you* take them in. That's an immigration process I could get behind. If you have skin in the game I suspect that you won't be quite so cavalier. Seriously though if you think that letting in immigrants even makes a dent then you need to see the scale o what we're talking about. Here's a quick video that will give you that perspective https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
As far as not messing up other countries, I'd be perfectly happy to see us pull back everything world wide. Doing it over a well defined time table would help prevent a power vacuum but if we started this year and finished in say 10 years I'd be thoroughly happy.
We get upset at CEOs who only care about the next quarters profits but as a species we rarely look ahead more than a year. Case in point everyone knew the Grand-banks fisheries off Canada's east coast were on the verge of collapse and yet we fished them right up to the point of nearly wiping out the cod there. Canadians dump more than 22 tons of GHG per person into the atmosphere (and BTW that's not counting the rotting pine forests). We beat the Americans by over 10% and yet we are doing almost nothing. If you can't get a well educated population that actually thinks climate change is a problem to change their ways there is no hope.
I get that fishing could be stopped but I don't see what the proposed solution to rotting pine forests is. In fact I hadn't heard of the problem but when I researched a few minutes what I think you're refering to is a beetle infestation. But it looks like that is not going to be a problem soon as found here: https://phys.org/news/2016-04-...
There are other options. We could limit legal immigration, stop illegal immigration, and retrain the workers.
Sorry but that wouldn't even help help because of the very short time period on which automation will wipe out a sector. As for retraining workers, what do you think training millions of people to do various trades is going to do to the wages of each trade?
Also, if we're supplying people with state-funded training then why aren't we supplying state-funded college education?
Any way it goes, they are the "welfare queen"s that they despise... they just don't know it.
It most definitely would 'help help'. It just wouldn't mitigate things fully. Retraining is cheaper than welfare. Retraining could be weighed against how much they have paid in taxes if that makes you feel better. Free college is a bad idea as many people just want to avoid joining the working world - college is fun. Having the meter running helps keep that impulse in check.
There's nothing wrong with them wanting that, but if you let them come and immediately give them handouts, that's what they'll come for and we'll go bankrupt trying to take care of them all.
Where's you're evidence for this? Immigrants pay taxes, just like everyone else. Immigrants are also less likely to take advantage of public services. If you look at something like social security, illegal immigrants are a boon for the system, because they are contributing to something that they will never be able to take advantage of. There are many, many economic benefits from immigration, and if we didn't have lots of immigration, we would be facing the same problems Japan is having. If you look at the GDP projections over the next few decades, the US is going to struggle to maintain economic dominance, just because population is exploding in many other countries, and GDP growth is tightly related to population. When you think about it, there are only two ways to increase GDP: add more people, or increase your per-capita GDP. China, India, and many countries in Africa have massive population growth, and are simultaneously improving per-capita GDP rapidly. Clamping down on immigration, which has made the US what it is, is going to slow our economic growth at a time when many other places are accelerating and becoming far more competitive.
But what the liberals are proposing now simply won't work. You can't have everyone come and then also take really good care of them.
Liberals aren't generally proposing this - they've voted regularly in favor of increased funding for border security.
You're conflating immigrants with illegal immigrants. Legal immigrants as a group are less likely to take advantage of us. Illegal immigrants, and anchor babies, are far more likely to take advantage. By mixing the positive stats of legal immigrants with the negative stats of illegal immigrants you're painting a rosy picture that isn't true. Indeed it's this type of shady use of language that keeps many Americans from understanding the true impacts of illegal immigration. Citations: https://cis.org/Report/63-NonC... https://www.washingtonexaminer...
We could limit legal immigration, stop illegal immigration..
Can you explain why you're worried about immigrants taking your jobs, but fine with robots taking them? What's your position on immigrant robots?
I didn't say I was fine with the robots, however I see that as being more beyond our control. Moreover robots could be used for the greater good, immigration can't. To help you understand the scale of mass immigration I'd suggest this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... In terms of why I suggested limiting immigration - it's simply that if robots create a shortage of jobs then limiting immigrants helps the citizens get the jobs that remain. Limited skilled immigration is a good thing. Mass immigration most certainly is not.
When the time comes and an entire sector is laid off in a period of a year or so, are we going to stick to our "free market" guns and leave these people to fend for themselves (hello crime wave) or will we do the right thing and implement something like UBI?
There are other options. We could limit legal immigration, stop illegal immigration, and retrain the workers. If only we had more politicians who were actually on the citizens side. I hope the US gets a working class party before things get too out of hand.
How so? How do open borders = death to the working class? Our most productive time in American history saw a large amount of immigration. The minimum wage ensures legal citizens are paid at least at the same starting point. Oh, you must mean those illegals, right? Hmm...and I wonder how they're getting jobs that place them below the federally mandated minimum wage? Oh, that's right, corporations. See an illegal in America doesn't work a job unless a company hires him to begin with. So the real death of the working class isn't Jose from Mexico, it's Bob the CEO from Fuck You, USA who is saying "I'm going to break the law and hire this person and pay them under the table at a severely reduced wage, because fuck America." Perhaps instead of a wall, we need mandatory background checks and employer new-hire reporting and auditing.
Can I assume that you're familiar with supply and demand and accept that overall it is a good explanation for things? There are many more employers than just Bob the CEO. Immigration, both legal and illegal, creates more workers. For the existing citizens this may or may not be a good thing, it depends on their circumstances. If you're Bob the CEO it's a great thing that there are more workers. If you already have money it's also a great thing since you now have more customers / renters / etc. If however you are a working person who is trying to earn a living there are more downsides than upsides. More people means housing costs go up. Traffic goes up. Schools are more crowded. Wages stagnate or sink. So yes, open borders == death to working class. That the party that claims it is the protector of the poor is pushing open borders is just too rich. The scale is too big for open borders to even succeed. If you're unsure about that, this video is worth 5 minutes of your time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
What straw man thing is it that you think a safe space is? I guarantee you're probably wrong.
Safe space: a place or environment in which a person or category of people can feel confident that they will not be exposed to discrimination, criticism, harassment, or any other emotional or physical harm.
Someone who is guaranteed to not be exposed to criticism is not emotionally strong and certainly isn't able to cope with different world views. Thus not a classic liberal.
Also, are you using the word classic as shorthand for ignorant deep-South?
That you use the South as a slur says more about you than Southerners. I suspect that you'd cal me names if I did something similar to your protected class of choice.