People in cities are exposed to more variety of people and ideas, and more open-minded and educated on the whole.
Try telling your friendly city dweller you didn't vote for Hillary or support the latest complaint from the LGBTQXYZ crowd and watch the Hr. Hyde transformation happen before your very eyes.
You get an awful lot more people using that road, so the cost per person is far less. Estimates are that it costs an average of ~$1-3million per mile to build a rural paved 2-lane road ($3-5million in the city).
Interesting numbers but my observation is that when discussing roads in urban areas the costs are an order of magnitude higher. And heaven help you if you want to add a lane like these guys https://www.nytimes.com/2016/1...
regardless of your opinions, he is right. of course they have the right to do so, but people are being silenced
By shutting down some people I think they gain responsibility for what's left. Trying to be immune to whatever content is being hosted while also pruning some out is having your cake and eating it too. If you want immunity you need to leave everything alone.
If that's the cost of 10x the range people would gladly do it. If it makes you feel better you can "only" charge it for 8 hours and get a mere 8x the range. This is a good problem to have.
While I'm happy to have a discussion with points being made back and forth may I first ask you a question? Do you support one set of laws for all people or are some people more equal than others?
Left:
- universal healthcare
- environmental protections
- marijuana legal
- hate speech outlawed
- no coal plants
FAR left, is above plus
- universal income
- 50%-90% corporate tax rate
- all drugs legal
- proportional representation
- nationalized critical industries (energy, water, internet) and some too big to fail businesses or businesses in the national interest
- no more nukes, nuke plants or any polluting power plant. renewables only.
- cap higher end wages
So I very much doubt that the "mainstream" in the USA is "far left". I think you guys can barely get to the centrist position.
I know its said time and time again, but the USA version of "left" is considered center or center right by other 1st world democracies.
You left out their most extreme positions and you know it. For example:
Left:
- general disdain for white people and favor affirmative action type programs. I think this is unique to the US.
- OK to openly fly job ads that specify no white males unless they are gay
- general disdain for Christians as a group
- general disdain for anyone from "fly over" states, the south, or just not from a city
- amnesty for all illegal immigrants is acceptable. Multiple times is fine too.
- Abolish ICE so that enforcement of immigration laws is handicapped
- force people to use an ever expanding list of new pronouns depending on what they identify as that day
- deplatforming / censorship is OK as long as it's hate speech. Note that hate speech is very broadly defined and full of exclusions.
Far Left:
- wants reparations for slavery, always calculated to be in the trillions of USD
- segregation in the form of safe spaces where only "people of color" are allowed
- abolish borders altogether, anyone can come in any time and stay however long they like
Think I made this garbage up? Here are some citations:
The world was created for white people snowflake. Get over it. White people aren't the ruling class anymore. Man up and move on.
Way to address my points about double standards. I have a legitimate point, you have name calling. I've manned up, being employed with no quotas and all, but I won't move on from double standards.
What is the point of the first amendment if not to protect speech some find offensive?
Also, I find it interesting that his attackers complain that âoethey knowâ Trump wants to stifle free speech (but never has), and at the same time support outlets like Twitter, YouTube, Facebook that ACTUALLY stifle free speech! Kinda like saying Trump committed treasonous acts by being willing to accept free dirt on Hillary, but Hillary and the DNC actually paying Russians (through intermediaries like Fusion GPS and a law firm) is nothing more than straight-up opposition research.
Double standards are standard leftish practice. Trump brown shirts are a threat that is screamed about as if it were happening while Antifa thugs *actually* are happening but are given a nod and a wink because... Trump. All groups other than Christians and white men are able to have clubs and scholarships yet somehow they preach that whites have extra privileges. Various minorities on the one hand complain that they are judged by the color of their skin and on the other hand demand preferences based on the color of their skin. Logic really isn't present on the left, only double standards and exceptions. The phrase have your cake and eat it too doesn't register with them.
Maybe she didn't publicize it well enough, but she definitely had an agenda.
Indeed. Stuffing the Clinton foundation even more by various foreign donors while positioning Chelsea as the next senator and future president. She did in fact have an agenda.
You really sure you wanna ring that bell? Because when Norway is 30C all year round, that means that a good portion of the planet is going to be uninhabitable. So there will be billions of people, many of them with guns, who will come for their piece of Norway. And you can't stop them all, especially if the famous winter slog that caused the Russians so much trouble before isn't there any more. Some people think Scandanavia has african migrant problems now, if what you wish for comes to pass there'll be several hundred million migrants coming your way...
until the powers that be de-platform your books or games. Not unlike the wave of things that got banned for showing a confederate flag or more recently Alex Jones. If you think that it can't happen to you or that you will always be on the right side of history you're at least taking a chance. Or you're a complete sheeple who goes whichever way the wind blows and has no principles in which case you're more likely correct. Just remember though that hysterias can go both right and left and both sides do terrible things.
Also, California sends much more money to DC than it gets back in subsidies -- California is essentially carrying red states in its back.
This was true pre-Obamacare. My understanding now is that it's roughly a break even due to how much the Feds are sending for 1/3 of the state being on subsidized or "free" healthcare. In CA you want to either be rich and use tax loopholes or poor and get everything for free or heavily subsidized. Those in the middle just get squeezed.
Citation:
http://www.latimes.com/politic...
Prove it! Obviously the current way isn't working, if it were, growing numbers of people wouldn't be looking to change it. The argument of when you were little is invalid. When people make that argument, more often than not, they are referring to times when you could actually work during the summer months and afford to pay for tuition. Those days are long gone, with government guaranteed loans, schools have no reason to keep the prices down because "hey, if you don't pay us we will just ruin your credit then default you and get paid by the government anyways".
To be fair when he was little we had a more unified culture, fewer illegals, inheritance taxes to keep the wealth moving around, and college and housing were far more affordable. Not to say that everything was better but the broad strokes were.
At least you get back a decent level of services for what you pay in tax.
Definitely not in California. We get a bullet train to no where that's only half built and free medical for illegals while the actual citizens pay high taxes. If we actually got something for high taxes you might be right, around here I'll never know.
GOP's always wanted cheap imported labor - that's why Romney's hire them to mow the lawn repeatedly, Trump had them build his towers then stiffed them.
I forget, which party is pushing open borders... oh yeah, the Democrats. You suggesting only Republicans want more immigrants is about as current as me suggesting liberals are tolerant of different ideas and free speech. As is so often true anything bi-partisan is that they agreed to F over the middle class some more.
I already see a form of this. Before anything can be said that might even hint at not being 110% party Democrat faithful you must first point out that you voted for Hillary and second you must disparage Trump. If you could be required to show your receipt then it would absolutely be a requirement for all acting jobs, most newspapers, and many other areas where intolerant liberals group together. They wouldn't want to accidentally befriend a *gasp* non-liberal or they will be punished like this guy
https://variety.com/2018/film/...
I'll help you with this as someone who would have voted for either early Bernie or Trump. I look at the issues more than the personality. Show me the Democrat who is half as interested in the white middle class as open borders and you can have my attention. Until then all I see in the Democratic party are people who at best dislike white people and at worst openly call for their "cancellation". And when someone disparages white people as a group, as I can cite below, are they punished? Of course not. So why would I vote for someone that openly calls me names and promotes those who dislike me? Pro tip for Democrats who want to win - you can't do it by disliking all white women and hating all white men.
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People in cities are exposed to more variety of people and ideas, and more open-minded and educated on the whole.
Try telling your friendly city dweller you didn't vote for Hillary or support the latest complaint from the LGBTQXYZ crowd and watch the Hr. Hyde transformation happen before your very eyes.
You get an awful lot more people using that road, so the cost per person is far less. Estimates are that it costs an average of ~$1-3million per mile to build a rural paved 2-lane road ($3-5million in the city).
Interesting numbers but my observation is that when discussing roads in urban areas the costs are an order of magnitude higher. And heaven help you if you want to add a lane like these guys https://www.nytimes.com/2016/1...
"His opinion is not egalitarian, so it is a meany opinion, which means he is an asshole and should be excluded from polite society."
Egalitarian? The US left abandoned that position at least a generation ago, perhaps longer. This is what egalitarian sounds like:
I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. Martin Luther King, Jr. 1964
That level of rhetoric would never pass for political discourse today.
regardless of your opinions, he is right. of course they have the right to do so, but people are being silenced
By shutting down some people I think they gain responsibility for what's left. Trying to be immune to whatever content is being hosted while also pruning some out is having your cake and eating it too. If you want immunity you need to leave everything alone.
If that's the cost of 10x the range people would gladly do it. If it makes you feel better you can "only" charge it for 8 hours and get a mere 8x the range. This is a good problem to have.
While I'm happy to have a discussion with points being made back and forth may I first ask you a question? Do you support one set of laws for all people or are some people more equal than others?
I bet he has no idea how much he has in common with Facebook, Twitter, and Google.
Indeed. One has a social credit score and the other has a trustworthiness rating.
Mao was no saint...
Now there's the understatement of the day. Being responsible for ~45 million deaths is more than just not being a saint.
bwahaha...
Left: - universal healthcare - environmental protections - marijuana legal - hate speech outlawed - no coal plants
FAR left, is above plus - universal income - 50%-90% corporate tax rate - all drugs legal - proportional representation - nationalized critical industries (energy, water, internet) and some too big to fail businesses or businesses in the national interest - no more nukes, nuke plants or any polluting power plant. renewables only. - cap higher end wages
So I very much doubt that the "mainstream" in the USA is "far left". I think you guys can barely get to the centrist position.
I know its said time and time again, but the USA version of "left" is considered center or center right by other 1st world democracies.
You left out their most extreme positions and you know it. For example:
Left:
- general disdain for white people and favor affirmative action type programs. I think this is unique to the US. - OK to openly fly job ads that specify no white males unless they are gay - general disdain for Christians as a group - general disdain for anyone from "fly over" states, the south, or just not from a city - amnesty for all illegal immigrants is acceptable. Multiple times is fine too. - Abolish ICE so that enforcement of immigration laws is handicapped - force people to use an ever expanding list of new pronouns depending on what they identify as that day - deplatforming / censorship is OK as long as it's hate speech. Note that hate speech is very broadly defined and full of exclusions.
Far Left:
- wants reparations for slavery, always calculated to be in the trillions of USD - segregation in the form of safe spaces where only "people of color" are allowed - abolish borders altogether, anyone can come in any time and stay however long they like
Think I made this garbage up? Here are some citations:
https://www.inc.com/suzanne-lu... https://www.thecollegefix.com/... https://www.theatlantic.com/bu... https://www.washingtonpost.com... https://www.washingtontimes.co...
The world was created for white people snowflake. Get over it. White people aren't the ruling class anymore. Man up and move on.
Way to address my points about double standards. I have a legitimate point, you have name calling. I've manned up, being employed with no quotas and all, but I won't move on from double standards.
What is the point of the first amendment if not to protect speech some find offensive?
Also, I find it interesting that his attackers complain that âoethey knowâ Trump wants to stifle free speech (but never has), and at the same time support outlets like Twitter, YouTube, Facebook that ACTUALLY stifle free speech! Kinda like saying Trump committed treasonous acts by being willing to accept free dirt on Hillary, but Hillary and the DNC actually paying Russians (through intermediaries like Fusion GPS and a law firm) is nothing more than straight-up opposition research.
Double standards are standard leftish practice. Trump brown shirts are a threat that is screamed about as if it were happening while Antifa thugs *actually* are happening but are given a nod and a wink because ... Trump. All groups other than Christians and white men are able to have clubs and scholarships yet somehow they preach that whites have extra privileges. Various minorities on the one hand complain that they are judged by the color of their skin and on the other hand demand preferences based on the color of their skin. Logic really isn't present on the left, only double standards and exceptions. The phrase have your cake and eat it too doesn't register with them.
Maybe she didn't publicize it well enough, but she definitely had an agenda.
Indeed. Stuffing the Clinton foundation even more by various foreign donors while positioning Chelsea as the next senator and future president. She did in fact have an agenda.
You really sure you wanna ring that bell? Because when Norway is 30C all year round, that means that a good portion of the planet is going to be uninhabitable. So there will be billions of people, many of them with guns, who will come for their piece of Norway. And you can't stop them all, especially if the famous winter slog that caused the Russians so much trouble before isn't there any more. Some people think Scandanavia has african migrant problems now, if what you wish for comes to pass there'll be several hundred million migrants coming your way...
Guess who will be wishing they had a wall then ;-)
PA is not even a coastal state, so there's no logical reason for I-95 to run through it in the first place - other than politics.
Alas politics is enough of a reason to break just about any sane reasoning.
The California bullet train is projected to cost as much as $98BN for 119 Ike's of track - that's a bit more than $50M/mile.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/1...
Uh, you're getting a hell of a lot more than just a set of train tracks for $98BN.
Stupid comparison, is stupid.
If I were posting something in favor of the ill fated already several times over cost California bullet train I'd do it as an AC too.
until the powers that be de-platform your books or games. Not unlike the wave of things that got banned for showing a confederate flag or more recently Alex Jones. If you think that it can't happen to you or that you will always be on the right side of history you're at least taking a chance. Or you're a complete sheeple who goes whichever way the wind blows and has no principles in which case you're more likely correct. Just remember though that hysterias can go both right and left and both sides do terrible things.
Also, California sends much more money to DC than it gets back in subsidies -- California is essentially carrying red states in its back.
This was true pre-Obamacare. My understanding now is that it's roughly a break even due to how much the Feds are sending for 1/3 of the state being on subsidized or "free" healthcare. In CA you want to either be rich and use tax loopholes or poor and get everything for free or heavily subsidized. Those in the middle just get squeezed. Citation: http://www.latimes.com/politic...
Prove it! Obviously the current way isn't working, if it were, growing numbers of people wouldn't be looking to change it. The argument of when you were little is invalid. When people make that argument, more often than not, they are referring to times when you could actually work during the summer months and afford to pay for tuition. Those days are long gone, with government guaranteed loans, schools have no reason to keep the prices down because "hey, if you don't pay us we will just ruin your credit then default you and get paid by the government anyways".
To be fair when he was little we had a more unified culture, fewer illegals, inheritance taxes to keep the wealth moving around, and college and housing were far more affordable. Not to say that everything was better but the broad strokes were.
At least you get back a decent level of services for what you pay in tax.
Definitely not in California. We get a bullet train to no where that's only half built and free medical for illegals while the actual citizens pay high taxes. If we actually got something for high taxes you might be right, around here I'll never know.
...for every one person like that there are a thousand who would like to work for Google.
They're mostly in India but yeah, I'm sure you're correct
GOP's always wanted cheap imported labor - that's why Romney's hire them to mow the lawn repeatedly, Trump had them build his towers then stiffed them.
I forget, which party is pushing open borders... oh yeah, the Democrats. You suggesting only Republicans want more immigrants is about as current as me suggesting liberals are tolerant of different ideas and free speech. As is so often true anything bi-partisan is that they agreed to F over the middle class some more.
I already see a form of this. Before anything can be said that might even hint at not being 110% party Democrat faithful you must first point out that you voted for Hillary and second you must disparage Trump. If you could be required to show your receipt then it would absolutely be a requirement for all acting jobs, most newspapers, and many other areas where intolerant liberals group together. They wouldn't want to accidentally befriend a *gasp* non-liberal or they will be punished like this guy https://variety.com/2018/film/...
Alexa's politics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Citations:
https://berniesanders.com/open... https://www.bbc.com/news/world... http://www.spiked-online.com/n... https://www.washingtontimes.co...
This race to the bottom will only be stopped by Federal laws against special exemptions. Amazon is big enough without special perks thank you.