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After 60 Years, 1,900-Mile-Long Interstate 95 Is Almost Finished (bloomberg.com)

"It has taken 60 years, but a small, strange gap in Interstate-95 is being filled," writes Slashdot reader McGruber. Bloomberg reports: Near the Pennsylvania border, drivers have long been forced off the interstate and onto other roadways, only to join back 8 miles away. Transportation officials and civil engineers spent more than two decades and $425 million to eliminate this detour off I-95, the most traveled highway in America, spanning 1,900 miles from Miami to Maine.

The Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission, which oversees the I-95 Interchange Project, said the new infrastructure -- which includes the creation of flyover ramps, toll plaza facilities, environmental mitigation sites, intersections, six overhead bridges, widened highways and new connections to the New Jersey and Pennsylvania turnpikes -- will be open to the public by Sept. 24. "The benefit of completing this 'missing link' is mobility," said Carl DeFebo, the director of public relations at the Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission. The new infrastructure will reduce traffic time for north- and south-bound travelers and ease congestion on local roads that used to connect I-95 to the Pennsylvania Turnpike.

116 comments

  1. All praise to Trump! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Surely he is solely and personally responsible for the massive savings and speed completion that occurred since he took office!

    Let's have a military parade to celebrate!

  2. Thank God by jfdavis668 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That gap was a major pain in the neck. For the traveler and the locals who lived there. Made it a pain for me to get to the airport or the sports stadiums. Rush hour and events just jammed up that entire area.

    1. Re: Thank God by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Forget the sixty years it took to build this road.

      $400,000,000.00 for 8 miles.

      That's $50,000,000.00 a mile for an above ground strip of construction. Good to know the next time the anti train folks whine about Capex.

    2. Re:Thank God by greenwow · · Score: 2

      I've driven roundtrip through there twice from Baltimore to Boston in 1988 and 1991, and I never even noticed the gap the four times (there and back twice) I've been through there. Amusingly assuming what I remember is correct, you didn't have to pay to get into New Jersey, but you gladly had to pay to leave.

      But seriously, did I just miss the gap?

    3. Re:Thank God by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't notice it either. Spending $425 million on something that isn't a problem is just ridiculous.

    4. Re: Thank God by kenh · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      The California bullet train is projected to cost as much as $98BN for 119 Ike's of track - that's a bit more than $50M/mile.

      https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/1...

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    5. Re:Thank God by SeriousTube · · Score: 5, Informative

      You might have gone up the NJ Turnpike instead. That's the better route. It's is labeled 95 in its northern parts, but down near Philly, The NJT is in NJ and 95 is on the PA side along the east side of Philly.

    6. Re:Thank God by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's probably because you assumed that I-95 followed the entire length of the NJ Turnpike - which pretty much everyone has assumed all along. But no, I-95 runs down the Turnpike from NYC and then mysteriously stops being signed as such around Exit 9, even though there was no applicable interchange involved. Then the NJ Turnpike ends at the bridge into Delaware, where it meets up with the stub of I-95 that goes through Philadelphia and also mysteriously starts being signed as I-295 after crossing into NJ.

      Anyone going from NYC to DC would be going out of their way to turn off onto this new alignment (using the existing PA Turnpike and using a new interchange to connect to the stub) and add another city (Philadelphia) to drive through. PA is not even a coastal state, so there's no logical reason for I-95 to run through it in the first place.

    7. Re:Thank God by xjerky · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's probably because you assumed that I-95 followed the entire length of the NJ Turnpike - which pretty much everyone has assumed all along. But no, I-95 runs down the Turnpike from NYC and then mysteriously stops being signed as such around Exit 9, even though there was no applicable interchange involved. Then the NJ Turnpike ends at the bridge into Delaware, where it meets up with the stub of I-95 that goes through Philadelphia and also mysteriously starts being signed as I-295 after crossing into NJ. Anyone going from NYC to DC would be going out of their way to turn off onto this new alignment (using the existing PA Turnpike and using a new interchange to connect to the stub) and add another city (Philadelphia) to drive through. PA is not even a coastal state, so there's no logical reason for I-95 to run through it in the first place - other than politics.

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    8. Re:Thank God by kriston · · Score: 2

      You took the New Jersey Turnpike. It suddenly loses its "I-95" label after the Delaware Memorial Bridge where you start to see occasional "To I-95" signs all the way until Exit 7A for I-195.

      We frequent travelers know to use I-295 north of Memorial Bridge, not I-95, therefore, this new project doesn't really matter to us, either. Nobody who travels this corridor regularly would ever take I-95 in Pennsylvania north of Delaware. We take I-295 through New Jersey. The reason that I-95 even swoops over to Philadelphia is political.

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    9. Re: Thank God by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

      The California bullet train is projected to cost as much as $98BN for 119 Ike's of track - that's a bit more than $50M/mile.

      https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/1...

      Uh, you're getting a hell of a lot more than just a set of train tracks for $98BN.

      Stupid comparison, is stupid.

    10. Re:Thank God by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      You know what? You're right.

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    11. Re: Thank God by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      "which includes the creation of flyover ramps, toll plaza facilities, environmental mitigation sites, intersections, six overhead bridges, widened highways and new connections to the New Jersey and Pennsylvania turnpikes"

      For only $400M?

    12. Re:Thank God by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You might have gone up the NJ Turnpike instead. That's the better route. It's is labeled 95 in its northern parts, but down near Philly, The NJT is in NJ and 95 is on the PA side along the east side of Philly.

      The section of the NJ Turnpike from Exit 6 to Exit 1 would have to be rebuilt to Interstate Standards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_standards to be designated as such. Besides, PA lobbied to keep I-95 flowing through their state instead of by-passing the Philadelphia area altogether.

    13. Re:Thank God by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you still have to pay to get out of Delaware southbound? I remember quite a few years back toll traffic getting backed up to pay a $2.25 (or was it $2.75) toll, thinking why TF don't they charge $2.00 or $3.00 even and not waste all that time making change.

    14. Re:Thank God by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      Public work projects are expensive.
      While there is a lot of waste that probably can be cleaned up, but often the cost of finding the waste is more expensive then the amount of waste itself.
      However if you figure a Pot hole that needs to be filled
      needs the following.

      3 People:
      2 People to direct traffic on both sides.
      A person to fill the hole.

      So if this process takes 1 hour. This would cost tax payers about $100 just for labor. Then there is management to determine where the potholes are and what priority they need to be fixed, Cost of material, upkeep of equipment...

      Sure you could probably get some pavement patch yourself, for $15.00 then fill it yourself for much cheaper. But then you risk getting hit by a car, using patch material that could hurt the road further or cars that drive over it, so you are legally responsible for their damage. Or your skill at such a job will just not meet standards, and make the problem worse.

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    15. Re:Thank God by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the lane closures and construction that caused the jams. Also the NJ Turnpike was widened by two lanes each way. The detour wasn't otherwise that noticeable. Further, I-95 will never be completed according to the original plan because it was rerouted onto the NJ Turnpike instead of going through Princeton up to 287, which was ridiculous.

    16. Re: Thank God by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 0

      The California bullet train is projected to cost as much as $98BN for 119 Ike's of track - that's a bit more than $50M/mile.

      https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/1...

      Uh, you're getting a hell of a lot more than just a set of train tracks for $98BN.

      Stupid comparison, is stupid.

      If I were posting something in favor of the ill fated already several times over cost California bullet train I'd do it as an AC too.

    17. Re:Thank God by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 1

      PA is not even a coastal state, so there's no logical reason for I-95 to run through it in the first place - other than politics.

      Alas politics is enough of a reason to break just about any sane reasoning.

    18. Re:Thank God by DocJohn · · Score: 1

      Most people going north or south on I95 never took the route that went through Philly (unless you had a need to go to Philly). Growing up in Delaware, I never understood why I95 even went to Philly, since it basically dead-ends once you get north of the city. It should be called something else, like I-895 or something as it's really just a spur up to Philly and the PA turnpike.

      If you want to go north I95, you go over the Del. Mem. Bridge and take either I295 (free) or the NJ turnpike (toll, and still only a 4-lane divided highway for the first 4 exits in NJ). I-295 then has a cutover around Mount Holly that allows you to get back onto the NJ turnpike to continue to your travels north.

      Sadly for America, we've let these great infrastructures rot right after we built them with continually deferred maintenance. Highway bridges that could easily last 100+ years if well-maintained instead need replacing after 30 or 40 years. Heaven forbid we raise gas taxes to help pay for fixing America's crumbling infrastructure. The current president campaigned on this, yet haven't seen a damn thing done to help undo the backlog of deferred projects...

    19. Re: Thank God by crunchygranola · · Score: 2

      And if you actually read the news about this you know that the $98 billion is the high end estimate of the total project ($77 billion is the current projection, which is an increase), but that 119 miles is only one smallish part of the project. That part of the project is currently estimated at $10.6 billion, or roughly 1/10 of what you are claiming. Still more that $50 million a mile ($89 million), true.

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    20. Re:Thank God by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PA is not even a coastal state, so there's no logical reason for I-95 to run through it in the first place - other than politics.

      Or the fact that the purpose of I-95 is not to "connect the coastal states" but to facilitate transportation within the area.

    21. Re: Thank God by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      The California bullet train is projected to cost as much as $98BN for 119 Ike's of track - that's a bit more than $50M/mile.

      Last I heard, the worst-case cost was only $10.6 billion for that 119 miles of track. Did it somehow grow by an order of magnitude since January?

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    22. Re:Thank God by xjerky · · Score: 1

      Which it did already via The NJ Turnpike or I-295 all along.

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    23. Re:Thank God by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      Probably, but it's been twenty years since I drove through there. OTOH, it was pretty easy to skip the toll by going around it. Before there was EZPass (or whatever it's called), I was passing through on a July 4th weekend. People who had blown past me fifteen miles before the toll plaza blew past me again fifteen miles after it - by skipping the toll plaza, I'd saved that much time. The closest exits in DE and MD, on either side of the toll plaza, were not more than five or six minutes' drive apart on local roads.

  3. It's never been finished finished in South Florida by TigerPlish · · Score: 1, Informative

    ..always in a constant state of construction. Been here almost 20 years, and it's still all fucked up in places from Miami to at least West Palm Beach. I avoid it as much as I can.

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  4. Re:It's never been finished finished in South Flor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I avoid Florida as much as I can because, well, aligators, old people and wackos.

  5. full schedule for the impatient by nimbius · · Score: 4, Funny

    1956 - 1957 pour concrete, build elevated road sections and ramps.

    1957 - 2017 : local line painters union #131 to paint road line.

    2018: Clovis the line painter finishes the last tape in his Bob Ross how to paint road lines Betamax collection and confirms the highway is nearly done.

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    1. Re:full schedule for the impatient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I'm a conservative Republican. I believe lines are unnecessary regulations and refuse to acknowledge them. I believe we should have the freedom to drive on any part of the road we choose. Many brave patriots died to defend those rights. Murica!

    2. Re:full schedule for the impatient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I think over here Clovis should paint a pretty little pine tree. And maybe just a little snow on the branches, and how about just a touch of shadow down on the bottom. I like that. But on your roadway you can paint it anywhere you like because it's your road.

    3. Re:full schedule for the impatient by erp_consultant · · Score: 1

      Vandyke brown! Don't forget the Vandyke brown!

    4. Re:full schedule for the impatient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unlikely that you're Republican, since it was the great Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower that signed the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956 that created our Interstate highway system. Republican like lines because they're like borders, and Republicans loves borders .

    5. Re:full schedule for the impatient by SuperKendall · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Drive in America (even Chicago or Boston), then drive in Cairo, Egypt... come back and tell us you still don't care about lines on roads.

      It's Democrats no longer caring about lines that is driving them to distraction and losing elections.

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    6. Re:full schedule for the impatient by bigfinger76 · · Score: 1

      Yellow ochre for the center lines.

    7. Re:full schedule for the impatient by GLMDesigns · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Create strawmen and then wonder why you are ineffective and surprised that the "stupid" people aren't convinced by your witticisms.

      Republicans don't have a problem with the government building roads. Some anarcho-capitalists and minarchists do, but certainly not the standard Republican.

      And no one - not Republican, nor anarcho-capitalist, would say that we have the freedom to drive on any part of the road we choose.

      Your foolishness only works within the echo chamber and fails everywhere else.

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    8. Re:full schedule for the impatient by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      I agree with your sentiment, but you're not doing a particularly great job of demonstrating how thoughtful Republicans and how mean people are for making them look "stupid" by interpreting a spoof about how conservatives don't want lines painted in the road as a claim Republicans have a problem with the government building roads.

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    9. Re:full schedule for the impatient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Democrats love borders too but the media painted their position on the matter in a different light. Get over it, if you really have a problem with the way immigration has been handled then you'll vote third party next election because BOTH parties did the same exact thing.

    10. Re:full schedule for the impatient by GLMDesigns · · Score: 0

      I've never heard of Republicans having a problem with the government building roads. The only times that roads would be mentioned would be when they are done by the government for a business entity (hence corruption) or as a make-work project or if done extremely inefficiently (due to corruption).

      I would think that most Democratic Socialists would also have a problem with corporate welfare (building a road specifically to benefit a corporation, or giving cheap electricity - AMAZON) or corruption. Many on the left have little problem with make-work projects but that is another issue.

      The poster did not refer to constructing the road only that lines painted upon them were an unnecessary regulation; and that one had the freedom to drive on any part of the road.

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    11. Re:full schedule for the impatient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should learn the difference between a strawman and satire.

    12. Re:full schedule for the impatient by Green+Mountain+Bot · · Score: 1

      Where I live, the GOP very actively opposes any effort to allocate new funds for road construction or maintenance - particularly if that contruction or maintenance is planned for urban areas. They have gone so far as to shoot down laws that would allow local jurisdictions to raise taxes to fund such projects.

      So it may be your experience that Republicans don't oppose the government building roads, but that experience is not universal.

    13. Re:full schedule for the impatient by GLMDesigns · · Score: 1

      It's not a philosophical objection to roads (and certainly not to painting lines on the road).

      The question of what tax dollars should be spent on is complicated. Few local areas are willing to pay for their roads. NYC, where I live, depends on state and federal expenditures. NYC could allocate all of the collected gas tax to roads and bridges. It doesn't. It goes into the general fund.

      This lack of accountability, this lack of accountability is a major cause of friction.

      Have 100% of your gas tax go to roads and bridges and you will see a change in the conversation. The same thing is true with water and sewer taxes. 100% of these funds should go to water and sewage and not be part of the general fund.

      If it is part of the general fund then expect generic opposition.

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    14. Re:full schedule for the impatient by crunchygranola · · Score: 1

      Eisenhower was great, and Republican, but he has nothing in common with the current Republican Party, any more than does Abraham Lincoln. Over the last 40 years Republicans have come to oppose any and all infrastructure spending. Ten years ago Republicans would have labeled Eisenhower a RINO (Republican In Name Only) -- now he would be dismissed as a Marxist Deep State Conspirator.

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    15. Re:full schedule for the impatient by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      They have lines in Cairo (well, they did when I went there), they just ignore them.

    16. Re: full schedule for the impatient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL wtf? This whole thread has gone off the highway.

      Baaaaa chinggggg.

      I'll be here all week.

    17. Re: full schedule for the impatient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      whooooooosh.

      You sir, are an idiot lol.

    18. Re:full schedule for the impatient by DaveSewhuk · · Score: 1

      1) Use tax dollars to build the road, 2) then privatize until said road until it falls apart or kills people when a bridge fails 3) Bailout to that private company to fix, profit! Fixed that for you.

    19. Re: full schedule for the impatient by GLMDesigns · · Score: 1

      Thx. Intelligent as always.

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    20. Re:full schedule for the impatient by GLMDesigns · · Score: 1

      Political thieves of all stripes do this. These thieves cloak themselves in the language of their constituency. But they're still thieves,

      No conservative or libertarian or minarchist would follow that recipe. Would thieves under the guise of New Deal Democrats in the 1930s and laissez-faire cost cutters in the 1990s do that? Yes.

      But that is not the political philosophy of either New Deal Democrats or laissez-faire Republicans.

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  6. Re: It's never been finished finished in South Flo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Turnpike owns, and so does Brightline

  7. Re:It's never been finished finished in South Flor by ZorinLynx · · Score: 1

    https://wtfflorida.com/media/9...

    Seriously, I-95 in Miami is something else. It feels like you're driving on a cobblestone road; it's made of rough concrete with billions of expansion joints. Not to mention everyone drives like they're going to war.

    Personally I'd modify that first panel to say "I-95 north of Palm Beach". Once you enter Palm Beach county, every point south of that is progressively worsening chaos.

  8. How about DC? by PeeAitchPee · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Being forced to take the Capital Beltway (I-495) all the way around doesn't really count as staying on I-95 to me (or even worse, some other combination of I-395 / 295 / 695 with other highways on the south end). I-95 should go straight thru DC like it does in Baltimore and NYC (but of course now that will never happen). When driving from MD to FL, I need to plan the entire trip around what time I'll be going thru DC -- it's that bad.

    1. Re: How about DC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better yet, let's wait until Congress is in session and then put the traffic through the Capitol.

    2. Re:How about DC? by kriston · · Score: 1

      We cancelled most of our intercity interstates and built our Metro.

      There have been many recent changes to improve through-traffic on the severely truncated I-95, though.

      I like the huge and empty interchange where I-95 meets the I-495 north of DC. It's like the builders left the stubs and unnecessarily huge bridges there out of spite.

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    3. Re:How about DC? by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 3, Informative

      I-95 should go straight thru DC like it does in Baltimore and NYC

      It was originally planned to, of course. I-395 was originally I-95, but they only got it as far as US Route 50 before local politics brought it to a screeching halt and faced with the fact that the rest of it would never be built, they had to designate part of the Beltway (I-495) as I-95, and the designation I-395 was created for the unfinished road through DC. I remember how there used to be signs on I-395 that said "old I-95" (I don't remember the I-95 signs for it--the designation was changed in the late 1970s and I'm not quite old enough to have been driving it back then.)

      I need to plan the entire trip around what time I'll be going thru DC -- it's that bad.

      Rerouting I-95 to the Beltway means it has to cross the Potomac via Wilson Bridge. Isn't having a major Interstate artery cross a drawbridge fun? At least they rebuilt it higher so it doesn't have to open as often--it used to open almost daily.

    4. Re:How about DC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, when you are on 395, you are on the road that was originally planned to be I-95 through center of DC. It actually ends in a tunnel near the Capital, Smithsonian, and is used as a parking lot after the last active exit. Government got almost there, but, ran into issue of expensive real-estate that would have cost a fortune even with eminent domain. Was cheaper to re-badge the east side of I-495 as I-95, which was probably a good thing given the traffic growth that would have erupted along I-95 as it was envisioned. If you stay on I-95 as marked, you only go around roughly half of the Capital Beltway.

    5. Re:How about DC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Being forced to take the Capital Beltway (I-495) all the way around doesn't really count as staying on I-95 to me (or even worse, some other combination of I-395 / 295 / 695 with other highways on the south end). I-95 should go straight thru DC like it does in Baltimore and NYC (but of course now that will never happen). When driving from MD to FL, I need to plan the entire trip around what time I'll be going thru DC -- it's that bad.

      You think the Beltway is bad and you’d rather drive THROUGH DC? You’d be better off with a bypass from Richmond to the far side of Baltimore, by way of Pitsburgh.. You want flying cars with that too?

    6. Re:How about DC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I-95 should go straight thru DC

      And right through their "radar detector illegal zone" (like VA) and the DC revenue generation...I mean speed camera zones.

      Brilliant!

    7. Re:How about DC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "White man's road through the black man's bedroom" was one of the rallying cries.

    8. Re:How about DC? by usuallylost · · Score: 1

      Not just around DC but the entire DC to Richmond corridor on I-95 is terrible. Especially around Fredericksburg. It is not at all uncommon for traffic to be bumper to bumper along that section even during non-peak hours. It is frequently much faster to get off the interstate and travel route 1 which runs parallel to it. You can at least do 45 mph on most of route 1.

    9. Re:How about DC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is nothing. Baltimore is the king of all cities when it comes to interstates and ramps to nowhere.

    10. Re:How about DC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where 95 meets 495 in MD, there used to be a stub that went inside the beltway where the road would have gone.

    11. Re:How about DC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is because people can't maintain a constant speed up and down grades.

    12. Re:How about DC? by Danathar · · Score: 1

      You've got that straight. Though there are several infrastructure project to fix the Fredericksburg corridor. http://www.virginiadot.org/pro... I live off of Route 17 so I understand your pain.

    13. Re:How about DC? by xjerky · · Score: 1

      Boston has the same issue with I-95 not going through, thanks to NIMBYs. (At the very least, it should follow the I-93 alignment, instead of looping all the way around - that's that 3-digit interstates are for.

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  9. That was rich by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A Bloomberg article somehow managed to blame Christie and Trump. That old guard blue blood country club Republican asshole still has a hard on for Mitt Romney apparently.

  10. Local Politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Local politics are often a major problem here. In the case of I-95, people didn't want a highway through an otherwise rural area, fearing increased development. It's somewhat the opposite reason that I-49 isn't going to be fully connected to I-29 in Kansas City. There are a number of at-grade crossings along US-71 in south Kansas City that would be removed to meet interstate standards. As I understand it, businesses in the area objected to the removal of the at-grade crossings. I-49 was supposed to run from Louisiana to the Canadian border, with the current I-29 being redesignated as I-49. That won't happen because it won't be one complete road that meets interstate standards. Another issue is that Missouri reallocated funds for the Bella Vista bypass near the Arkansas border. As a result, Arkansas doesn't want to build their portion of the highway until Missouri builds their portion as well.

    These construction projects are massive expenses and the article raises concerns that these large projects are being completed while necessary maintenance isn't being funded. That's unfortunately very common when budgets are tight and a limited desire to raise taxes or implement tolls. In Missouri, MODOT spent a massive amount of money on the Page Avenue extension when the budget was being cut, resulting in a lack of funds for other necessary projects. The reason for the Page Avenue extension was to relieve congestion on roads across the Missouri River because of people moving from St. Louis County to St. Charles County. Were it not for the massive urban sprawl and people moving out of St. Louis City and County, the project wouldn't even be necessary.

    And good luck getting the funding to widen I-70 in mid-Missouri, portions of which haven't been upgraded since the road was created in the 1950s. It's below modern interstate standards in many ways and carries far more traffic than it was designed for, but the cost of upgrading is huge and nobody wants to pay for it. As a result, the road is congested, and that's also a safety issue.

    1. Re:Local Politics by mnemotronic · · Score: 1

      .. And good luck getting the funding to widen I-70 in mid-Missouri,

      How about completing it? In the east it terminates ignominiously in Woodlawn MD. Western terminus peters out near Cove Fort, Utah. What an embarrassment.

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    2. Re:Local Politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I-70 is officially complete. The western terminus was changed from Salt Lake City to Cove Fort when the DoD representatives on the interstate committee insisted back in the 50's. All planned portions east of the eastern terminus were removed at the request of the Maryland government.

  11. now we need to build 53 and FAP 420! by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    now we need to build 53 and FAP 420!

  12. News for Commuting Nerds? by QuadEddie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't know why this is on Slashdot

    1. Re:News for Commuting Nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot hasn't been super nerdy for years.

    2. Re:News for Commuting Nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Road nerds are some of the biggest nerds out there.

    3. Re:News for Commuting Nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know why people continue to ask this question.

  13. Civil Engineers are Nerds too by ghoul · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not just Computer Engineers

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    1. Re:Civil Engineers are Nerds too by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Funny

      There's no such thing as a civil engineer. We're a truly rude and nasty bunch of people.

    2. Re: Civil Engineers are Nerds too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AvE, is that you ?

    3. Re:Civil Engineers are Nerds too by Thelasko · · Score: 2

      Not just Computer Engineers

      Yes. This "News for Nerds" website spends way too much time talking about information technology and not enough time discussing other technology. There have been recent advances in traffic engineering too. Ever see a diverging diamond interchange?

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    4. Re:Civil Engineers are Nerds too by WallyL · · Score: 1

      "Civil engineer" is the term used to describe engineers who work without bullets flying at them from armed enemy combatants. If you have such bullets flying at you, we call you "military engineers."

    5. Re:Civil Engineers are Nerds too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, but really, is there anything 'nerdy' of interest to civil engineers other than "someone is finally finishing a highway that's been a long time coming"?

      I mean, they're changing an exit on one of the highways near me, is that news worthy? They paved a road near me as well, should I make a submission?

      Sorry, this is just "random shit happens in America, isn't that awesome?"

      OK, fine, so they're going to make a better highway. How is this relevant in any way to Slashdot?

      This really is a dumb fucking article to have here.

    6. Re: Civil Engineers are Nerds too by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      AvE, is that you ?

      Oh please. He's far from the only grumpy old man in the world :-)

    7. Re:Civil Engineers are Nerds too by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      There have been recent advances in traffic engineering too. Ever see a diverging diamond interchange?

      Yes. There are at least two of them on I-70, one over, one under. The one over made a great deal of sense. It serves a mall, with the majority of traffic being required to cross the highway after exiting. The other one seems a little gratuitous. The crossroad it was constructed for was fairly low-traffic to begin with, and that hasn't changed appreciably.

    8. Re:Civil Engineers are Nerds too by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      If you have such bullets flying at you, we call you "military engineers."

      No we don't. We call you a combat engineer. Military engineers work on military projects, but are not in combat, and do not perform combat-specific duties.

  14. that makes two of us! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It took me 60 years to get some strange too!

  15. It was intended to replace US 1 in New Jersey by kriston · · Score: 4, Informative

    Interstate 95 was always intended to be built along the right-of-way of US 1 in New Jersey between Princeton and New Brunswick. Driving in the area you can see where property along US 1 was condemned and cleared in anticipation of I-95, but the highway construction never happened due to local opposition.

    This "re-routing" is a bit more than re-signing a 20-mile-longer route over existing interstates that we were already using over the past 30 years to bypass that missing segment. We would take I-295 from the Delaware Memorial Bridge, take I-195 eastbound, and then join the New Jersey Turnpike northbound where it formally takes on the I-95 designation. It was not labelled I-95 south of I-195.

    Along with the re-labeling of these roads there are a lot of new roadway, bridges, and interchanges as well to optimize the dangerous merges. I-295 will revert to become a kinda-Philadelphia-bypass (a.k.a., "half-assed Beltway and southern bypass") as originally intended. The "new" I-95 will ultimately become this haphazard zig-zag highway that nobody wanted with an extra twenty miles more than the originally-proposed route through Princeton. But, at least they can say "I-95 is finally completed."

    Meanwhile, the New Jersey Turnpike express lanes, a.k.a., "dual-dual" configuration, have been extended far south of the Exit 7A I-195 interchange.

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    1. Re:It was intended to replace US 1 in New Jersey by xjerky · · Score: 1

      The dual-dual configuration runs all the way to the PA Turnpike Exit now (construction completed around 2013), which I-95 will now use.

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  16. Oh nice! by Jfetjunky · · Score: 1

    Oh nice! Construction done on an interstate? Better start construction on the beginning again.

  17. Ask not for whom the road tolls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's a good chance the money you pay just leaves the country.

  18. Governor Brown accidentally told the truth by raymorris · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I notice that Governor Jerry Brown, the leading proponent of this boondoggle, accidentally told the truth in his recent State of State speech. Again voicing his support for the never-ending building project, he said it would last over a hundred years.

    1. Re: Governor Brown accidentally told the truth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      "Shovel ready" jobs. lol

      After it's done, it will be destroyed and rebuilt.

      Every socialist state needs a mouse wheel to keep the mice in motion. Pay no attention to your destination; you have none.

    2. Re:Governor Brown accidentally told the truth by crunchygranola · · Score: 2

      This is the paragraph from Brown's speech:

      The next step is completing the Valley segment and getting an operating system connected to San Jose. Yes, it costs lots of money but it is still cheaper and more convenient than expanding airports and building new freeways to meet the growing demand. It will be fast, quiet and powered by renewable electricity and last for a hundred years.

      To the non-ideologically blinded, this is easy to understand. He says that the train system will "last for a hundred years" (I would expect it really to last indefinitely, with proper maintenance). It is not possible to read this and honestly believe it to say that it wall take over a hundred years to build it.

      You can read the actual business plan here. It states that the San Francisco to Anaheim main line is scheduled for completion in 2033, 15 years from now. Might it slip? Sure. In fact I expect it will. But it is insane to think that it will take >100 years.

      As Brown points out any major transportation project costs many billions. LAX is currently undergoing a $14 billion renovation, which is about 20% of the current baseline estimate for the entire bullet train line.

      BTW, California as a GDP of $2.5 trillion. Transportation improvements are essential to maintaining a high tech, high growth, high end economy and the cost of this runs around $6 billion a year for 15 years. California can afford it easily.

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  19. 50 years of not-so-fond memories by Joe+Branya · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I spent 50 years driving DC to Rhode Island.

    About this interchange: The Penn Turnpike was built before the interstates and was a toll road. So the 1950s connector between the new NJ section of I-95 (at exit 7A I think) and the Penn Turnpike was a "turnpike only" connection. Pennsylvania refused to allow it to connect to free roads so when a free interstate was run through Philadelphia there was no connection . The same thing happened in western MD where I-70 came near the Turnpike. PA refused to connect them so all travelers were shuttled through two miles of Pennsylvania Burger Chefs and gas stations in order extract some money before the traveler could get to the Penn Turnpike. It was the county's biggest business.

    Two miles west of the NJ Turnpike at exit 7 is the golden north-south road; I-295, which goes through the NJ suburbs of Philadelphia all the way to the Delaware Memorial Bridge and is free. All the trucks going south get off the Jersey Pike at exit 7, gas up, take a snooze and head south on the free road, now- finally- well marked. Until about 2000 the road was never mentioned when you were going south in New Jersey and coming north into NJ across the Delaware Memorial Bridge (which incidentally has a phenomenal view- get in the right-hand lane, go slow and take in the view) there was simply an exit called "route 130". If there is heavy traffic going south on the Jersey Pike (every Sunday in the summer) get off on 295 and get straight to the bridge- no five mile backup to pay the tolls. The whole goal of NJ was to keep you off the free road and keep you paying the NJ highway toll- it was just like the Penn Turnpike.

    If it is late fall and your are driving NYC to DC go down the main eastern shore roads and look at the flocks of geese wheeling and landing in the freshly harvested corn fields. They are huge, dignified birds and loud. Stop for 20 minutes and really look. This is the real thing- a National Geographic show in front of your eyes. Children are amazed. Then head to DC via the Bay Bridge at Annapolis- free heading south.

    In my early youth dodging tolls was an art form. There were seven 25 cent tolls on the Connecticut Turnpike between RI and NYC; just flip the coin and drive on. Late at night the rich people would often miss, grumble and throw a second coin. So we poverty-stricken college students at 2 am would pretend to miss, get out of the car and usually harvest half-a-dozen quarters before the toll collecters could stop us (they had a nice side job keeping the coins for themselves). By the time we hit NYC we were usually $ 10 richer, enough to pay for the gas (30-50 cents/ gallon and in a price war as low as 19 cents). At the time the federal minimum wage was 85 cents/hour.

    I still know the back roads through the Bronx to avoid the horrible NYC jams on the GW Bridge and at least once in your life heading north at 2 am (the best time to go through NYC) you should go through town via the 1920s, two lane Holland Tunnel turn left and surf north on 7th/8th Avenue with the cabs, an endless stream of red lights timed at 25-30 mph going almost 10 miles north to the GW bridge and back onto 95 north. Today heading north I usually go DC to Baltimore, north to Harrisburg and across the mountains with the trucks to the new Tappen Zee and I 84. A bit longer but much nicer.

    The driving into New England is so bad that most truckers refuse to do it and if they do drive it must charge very high rates, which is why New England has such lousy fruits and vegetables and at such high prices. If this were Europe they would widen I-81, cross the Hudson north of the Tappen Zee and get straight to the Mass Pike. I've just spent the summer in the Balkans, often traveling by bus. Bosnia and Macedonia now have better interstates that the U.S. and far more interesting truck stops. And you should see how they build the new divided roads- much higher quality than in the U.S.- they are built to last. But then the locals compare the new EU roads to the Roman roads- they expect the bridges to last for 1,000 years.

    1. Re:50 years of not-so-fond memories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > If this were Europe they would widen I-81, cross the Hudson north of the Tappen Zee and get straight to the Mass Pike.

      You mean I-84. But you are spot-on with your analysis. Well done.

    2. Re:50 years of not-so-fond memories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You obviously didn't read his post at all. He's complaining about mafia-like small government shaking down travelers. The post is very valuable, and Joe Branya, I appreciate it.

    3. Re:50 years of not-so-fond memories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol. As a younger person I'm not siding with you purple-haired vape sucking soyboy basement dwellers. Get used to it loser! Go Trump!

    4. Re:50 years of not-so-fond memories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I spent 50 years driving DC to Rhode Island.

      Yeah, given traffic, that sounds about right.

    5. Re:50 years of not-so-fond memories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I spent 50 years driving DC to Rhode Island.

      What took so long? Did you put your car in neutral and wait for gusts of wind or something?

  20. Re:It's never been finished finished in South Flor by NormalVisual · · Score: 1

    At least they finally finished the construction widening it to three lanes in each direction from Vero Beach north through Brevard County. The traffic dumping onto 95 North from Malabar Rd. and the backups on 95 South at the Palm Bay Rd. exit made it a real mess before they got that third lane added.

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  21. Re:Just in the nick of time. by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 2

    a child born today has basically no chance of driving a car around the streets of Miami, Florida. In fact, there are children old enough to to know what Miami is, understand what's happening to it, who will never be able to drive its streets... (nor ride around in an Ubber or a Lyeft or whatever,) BUT, on the plus side, that child WILL be able to paddle in an ocean-going kayak, or sail a shallow-bottomed boat around in the ocean above what WAS Miami, and look down and see the foundations of all the houses and buildings that have mostly been washed away thanks to the pounding of the waves and surf, before they too are reclaimed.

    So, basically, they're saying Miami will be completely submerged in 15 years or less???

    Not a chance in hell...

    Miami averages a couple meters above Sealevel. Oceans aren't going to rise three meters+ in 15 years. Not even with worst-case sealevel rise. Hell, we won't see that much sealevel rise this century, much less in the next 15 years (again, worst case).

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  22. meanwhile... (the real story) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Meanwhile, the rest of Americaâ(TM)s roadways, rails and bridges are disintegrating.

  23. Quote Bob Ross by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    “We don't make mistakes, just happy little accidents.” ...

    1. Re: Quote Bob Ross by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Steve was Bob Ross' greatest accident.

  24. Next up for the PA Turnpike Commission... by Mhrmnhrm · · Score: 1

    Breezewood. It is *not* a traveler's oasis as the local businesses like to claim. It's an abomination of price gouging and poorly timed traffic lights.

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  25. Today I Learned... by Thelasko · · Score: 1

    I-95 doesn't go through Trenton, New Jersey.

    There's a Sesame Street theme park near where I-95 ends in Pennsylvania.

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    1. Re:Today I Learned... by xjerky · · Score: 1

      Which is stupid since all of the signs in North Jersey give Trenton as its control city.

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  26. Re:Just in the nick of time. by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 1

    a child born today has basically no chance of driving a car around the streets of Miami, Florida. In fact, there are children old enough to to know what Miami is, understand what's happening to it, who will never be able to drive its streets... (nor ride around in an Ubber or a Lyeft or whatever,) BUT, on the plus side, that child WILL be able to paddle in an ocean-going kayak, or sail a shallow-bottomed boat around in the ocean above what WAS Miami, and look down and see the foundations of all the houses and buildings that have mostly been washed away thanks to the pounding of the waves and surf, before they too are reclaimed.

    So, basically, they're saying Miami will be completely submerged in 15 years or less???

    Not a chance in hell...

    Miami averages a couple meters above Sealevel. Oceans aren't going to rise three meters+ in 15 years. Not even with worst-case sealevel rise. Hell, we won't see that much sealevel rise this century, much less in the next 15 years (again, worst case).

    Maybe. But the the estimates you're using were based on conservative figures. Since the scientists are foretelling gloom and doom, they don't, as a group, want to risk their credibility by making predictions that don't come true, so they tend to err on the side of caution, I think.

    There are a number of factors not being taken into consideration because they can't. Wars, for example. In an already dry environment, like parts of Northern California burning to the ground, it doesn't take much, just a casually discarded cigarette, a spark from a tailpipe, a lightning strike, etc., to touch off a blaze that puts a few more million tons of gaseous carbon into the atmosphere that already has entirely too much of that element, that wasn't counted on in the models. When wars are fought, incendiary devices are, I've heard, occasionally used.

    As polar ice disappears, even more millions of tons of formerly-safely-sequestered carbon is exposed and allowed to finish rotting away, dumping even more dangerous methane into the air, spiraling into ever greater amounts of the heat-trapping gas. Then some idiot decides to undo all the rules that were slowing down the destruction, and wants to speed it back up, actively, because he apparently, like so many other people, can't do basic math... out, it seems, of sheer SPITE.

    Also there are other possible contributors to flooding, like changes in weather patterns that are already happening. Increasing turbulence of the ocean's surface COULD cause variations in sea-levels near land to cause some water to overtop levees that it previously could not; or maybe storms pushing massive waves over when before they were not high enough to get over existing walls.

    The estimates for the rate of sea-level rise COULD be right, BUT they could also be wrong. Let's all hope they're right. Because if Miami DOES get submerged below rising ocean waves, or otherwise rendered uninhabitable, it means all the people there will FLOOD (pun intended, sorry,) into the rest of the country. More people means more crowding, more cars, more noise, etc.

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  27. Re:It's never been finished finished in South Flor by xjerky · · Score: 1

    It's basically continuous city from West Palm Beach to Miami, for 70 miles.

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  28. Re:Just in the nick of time. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    California and other arid environments have always had nearly constant fires during dry seasons. Luckily the carbon emitted is the same as the carbon which was sequestered when the vegetation grew, and will be sequestered again upon the ashes once the rain falls. Wood burning is carbon neutral and fires are an essential part of the planet's ecology.

    The only part where humans are screwing up is by drilling out hydrocarbons which took millions of years to produce and burning them within a few centuries.

  29. All they did was change the name of the road by darkharlequin · · Score: 1

    From 295 to 95. Literally. Now 295 runs back towards Philly a bit but it is combined with 95. I always thought it was part of replacing the Scudders Falls bridge. 95 Disappeared above Trenton right at the river and reappeared down past 195. They literally '"Fixed" the problem' Office space style.

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  30. NJ charges to you to leave... by darkharlequin · · Score: 1

    The 295/95 Scudders Falls bridge is one of the few places you can leave NJ without paying for the privilege to do so. I won't mention the other ones ;)

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  31. Re:Just in the nick of time. by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

    Miami averages a couple meters above Sealevel. Oceans aren't going to rise three meters+ in 15 years. Not even with worst-case sealevel rise. Hell, we won't see that much sealevel rise this century, much less in the next 15 years (again, worst case).

    A good deal of Miami Beach is below storm surge levels last seen in 1984. Parts of it are below ordinary daily high tide. What the NOAA calls technically "mean higher high water". This being Slashdot, we should use the technical term. It's the higher of the two high tides per day, colloquially understood as "high tide". There's a road in Miami Beach that's literally built below the daily high tide mark. It floods every day when the tide comes in.

  32. That whole clusterfuck... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Made me end up going down through maryland instead of taking 95 all the way down to 40 to come back during a road trip across the US. The signs disappeared at some point and I found myself on some highway that lead along the coast in maryland or delaware or something before finally finding a gas station that was open and directed me back onto a road that could get me to philadelphia.

    Coming from california it was the messiest set of interchanges outside of the South Bay, or later outside of Georgia/Texas, after visiting them.

    Glad to know they finally cleaned that mess up. Now if only they could do something about the split between 80 and the Indiana(?) turnpike so you won't get stuck for a hundred miles on the wrong road having to pay a few tanks of gas as a toll.