Here's a man who was used by Steve Jobs to launch a brand and didn't even get justly compensated
Woz made hundreds of millions of dollars. Without Jobs, he wouldn't have even left HP.
-jcr
Re:IPods are the only reason why Apple still exist
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Even if you remove the iPod from the picture, the Macintosh business is growing by double-digits, year over year. With the iPod, Apple's a sixty billion dollar company. Without it, they would probably be a thirty billion dollar company, which is still Freaking Huge.
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Why do people care about what this guy says?
Probably because he's acheived more than most people ever will.
The country really did change when Clinton came into power. You weren't looking over your shoulder as much. You weren't having to constantly fight to keep your rights.
I guess you missed that whole battle over encryption?
In America journalists are afraid to ask politicians questions about their crimes.
No, they are not. American journalists swarm all over any politician who's in any kind of trouble, if they think there's a chance of being the next Woodward or Bernstein.
The irony is that in America, anyone who votes for the two major parties is voting for the rise of Fascism.
Yeah, but just try telling a democrat that Clinton was just as willing to put an end to our privacy as Bush, or telling a Republican that they're spending more than the Democrats did last time around, and they will work themselves into a hilarious snit. They have a massive ego investment in the idea that there's some practical difference between the wings of the Ruling Party.
Someone mentioned to me several years ago, that nearly all human societies have customs for disposing of dead bodies that would tend to prevent predators from knowing that humans were something to eat. Burying someone six feet deep, for example, makes it rather unlikely that a lion or a bear would smell the body and dig it up.
The Peoples Republic of China, DOES have a constitution, just not like the U.S. or most westernized countries.
So did the Soviets, and the Weimar Republic. Of course, what this goes to show is that a constitution, like any written law, is only a statement of intentions. Ultimately, our rights depend entirely on our willigness to fight back if they're infringed.
Why would Microsoft license another OS when their own OS is still making them billions of dollars every year?
Why bother with NT when DOS was their cash cow?
The question is, does it make good business sense to do another six-year, multi-billion dollar debacle like Longhorn, or to quit throwing good money after bad and switch to a maintainable code base like OS X? (Or Linux, or BSD, for that matter.)
This goverment had the backing of the USA, after all this goverment, that censored, tortured and killed people was fighting the "big bad comunist".
Well, don't gloss over the fact that Communism was indeed both big, and bad. It's still bad, just not nearly as likely to expand as it once appeared.
It is regrettable that in the process of fighting communism, the USA made alliances with various criminal regimes. Of course, the USA once made an alliance with probably the second-worst mass murderer of all time, Josef Stalin, in order to defeat the #3 mass murderer.
Nevertheless, the mistakes of the past are no reason to shirk the responsibility of fighting the criminal regimes that remain. It's simply apalling that the United States has left the people of Cuba to rot under Castro, for example.
Do you really think that a letter to foreign companies, or an occassional rally, is going to change the policies of the Chinese government?
Not by itself, no. It's one of many, many things that will eventually bring an end to the Red Dynasty. For now, it povides comfort to the Chinese who want to be free, to know that they're not alone.
Why do you assume that they don't confront the chinese government as well? Who do you think it is that organizes the "free tibet" rallies when Chinese officials visit American cities?
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He hopes his "long-time nemesis" improves and becomes more like Apple? Why?
To alleviate the suffering of their customers, perhaps?
Hell, I'd love to see Microsoft come up with something I could stand to use, besides a mouse.
-jcr
Steve Jobs is evil.
Aww.... What did he do, steal your girlfriend?
-jcr
I don't really understand what Woz means by saying that her hopes intel becomes more like Apple.
Check again.. He said that about Microsoft, not Intel.
-jcr
Here's a man who was used by Steve Jobs to launch a brand and didn't even get justly compensated
Woz made hundreds of millions of dollars. Without Jobs, he wouldn't have even left HP.
-jcr
Even if you remove the iPod from the picture, the Macintosh business is growing by double-digits, year over year. With the iPod, Apple's a sixty billion dollar company. Without it, they would probably be a thirty billion dollar company, which is still Freaking Huge.
-jcr
Why do people care about what this guy says?
Probably because he's acheived more than most people ever will.
-jcr
Well, that sounds more plausible than Scientology, at least..
-jcr
I don't know of ANY wi-fi product that even radiates half a watt. What a pack of blithering luddites.
-jcr
The country really did change when Clinton came into power. You weren't looking over your shoulder as much. You weren't having to constantly fight to keep your rights.
I guess you missed that whole battle over encryption?
-jcr
No, the owner of the business has a (moral) responsibility to pay me fairly for my work
No, he has a responsibility to pay what he's agreed to pay. If you don't agree on a price, then you don't make the deal.
-jcr
In America journalists are afraid to ask politicians questions about their crimes.
No, they are not. American journalists swarm all over any politician who's in any kind of trouble, if they think there's a chance of being the next Woodward or Bernstein.
-jcr
The irony is that in America, anyone who votes for the two major parties is voting for the rise of Fascism.
Yeah, but just try telling a democrat that Clinton was just as willing to put an end to our privacy as Bush, or telling a Republican that they're spending more than the Democrats did last time around, and they will work themselves into a hilarious snit. They have a massive ego investment in the idea that there's some practical difference between the wings of the Ruling Party.
-jcr
Don't they even bother to check people out?
You'd be amazed at how many businesses don't.
-jcr
Thing is, no one is going to pay $7/month each for every single thing they read/listen to/ smell.
Who said everything's going to be the same price?
-jcr
Someone mentioned to me several years ago, that nearly all human societies have customs for disposing of dead bodies that would tend to prevent predators from knowing that humans were something to eat. Burying someone six feet deep, for example, makes it rather unlikely that a lion or a bear would smell the body and dig it up.
-jcr
I can see that comunism wasn't that good, but I can also see that capitalism it isn't that good,
Mao killed 77 million people, mostly through starvation.
-jcr
The Peoples Republic of China, DOES have a constitution, just not like the U.S. or most westernized countries.
So did the Soviets, and the Weimar Republic. Of course, what this goes to show is that a constitution, like any written law, is only a statement of intentions. Ultimately, our rights depend entirely on our willigness to fight back if they're infringed.
-jcr
Oh, wait, that researchless twit was _You_!
I was not the one who said that China doesn't have a constitution, you pompous windbag.
-jcr
Why would Microsoft license another OS when their own OS is still making them billions of dollars every year?
Why bother with NT when DOS was their cash cow?
The question is, does it make good business sense to do another six-year, multi-billion dollar debacle like Longhorn, or to quit throwing good money after bad and switch to a maintainable code base like OS X? (Or Linux, or BSD, for that matter.)
-jcr
You need to shut up.
Practising for a job in the Chinese government, are you?
-jcr
Comunism isn't "bad", totalitarism is.
Thanks for that flashback to the 1920's, when there was still some plausible deniability for communists.
-jcr
This goverment had the backing of the USA, after all this goverment, that censored, tortured and killed people was fighting the "big bad comunist".
Well, don't gloss over the fact that Communism was indeed both big, and bad. It's still bad, just not nearly as likely to expand as it once appeared.
It is regrettable that in the process of fighting communism, the USA made alliances with various criminal regimes. Of course, the USA once made an alliance with probably the second-worst mass murderer of all time, Josef Stalin, in order to defeat the #3 mass murderer.
Nevertheless, the mistakes of the past are no reason to shirk the responsibility of fighting the criminal regimes that remain. It's simply apalling that the United States has left the people of Cuba to rot under Castro, for example.
-jcr
Do you really think that a letter to foreign companies, or an occassional rally, is going to change the policies of the Chinese government?
Not by itself, no. It's one of many, many things that will eventually bring an end to the Red Dynasty. For now, it povides comfort to the Chinese who want to be free, to know that they're not alone.
-jcr
Don't blame Google, blame China.
Who says we have to choose?
-jcr
Why do you assume that they don't confront the chinese government as well? Who do you think it is that organizes the "free tibet" rallies when Chinese officials visit American cities?
-jcr