Hold on there. Blaming the "open computer community" for not adding security to SMTP and DNS is like blaming the Model T Ford for all the poution in the world. Back when these protocols were invented it wasn't even concieved security could be a requirement, not to mention hey didn't have the processing power to do it in most cases.
The problem in my opinion is that these protocols were designed too well. They should have become overloaded and been replaced with something more appropriate a long time ago.
Apparently they already had, from the email the core team no longer consisted of the people writing most of the code. So basically more work was/is being done from people not on the core team/mailing list than by thos on it.
I would imagine they may reform the core team at a later date with the people actually doing the lions share of the work, or they'll just move their discussion regarding development to a different forum
Excuse the off topic-ness of this rant, but this is the problem with our population today.
I say all fans covers should be removed and the consequences welcomed. If people are stupid enough (and I have no doubt they are) to put their extremities into fast moving blades I say they get what they deserve. And lets face it is it really worth the risk of letting the breed? Our planets resources are scarce enough at the moment without having to share them with the crud clogging up the filter at the bottom of the gene pool.
When was the last time MS owned every webserver in existence?
My point is that there will be 2 possible outcomes to DRM
1. It will be MS only and they will lock out everything else. But doing this then means that over half of the webservers in the world are no longer able to host "secure" content and would probably result in IE bringing up 10 confirmation windows whenever you hit one of these sites. How many people would stand for this?
2. It will be avaliable to everyone and we will finally having a "trusted" computer model where copyrights are enforced in digital media and all related media. This may not be a bad thing as it will show digital media companies just how many people would by CD's when they can't download them (I'm thinking there will be no increase and it may in fact drop). This will of course invent new ways to copy media via an analogue system with little or no percieved difference (assuming the system isn't cracked in the first place)
So what we will get in the end is all the same media avaliable for download if we really want it (with possibly a slight quality loss), BUT we will also get a completly trusted computing environment for banking, online purchasing and even email (filtering SPAM anyone?)
I believe the movie was Apollo 13 (although I could be wrong) and the quote was basically "How does it feel to be sitting on 2 engines that can produce x thousand pounds of thrust and were assembled by the cheapest bidder".
My concern is that by operating in that manner you lose all feedback as well as the brains of the people actually putting it together, once it's finshed
No the source is not included. But all of these packages include a text file pointing you to a site that it can be downloaded from. ANd that is the difference
And based on that...Every machine in the world is already comprimised, so the fact that a few debian servers got cracked really doesn't make any difference now does it:-)
Ok, so these zombies have to connect to SOMETHING to send a message to whoever runs them that they have infected xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx and it can be used as a proxy, right?!?!?!
So sniff the packets, find out where it's connecting (probably IRC of some sort), join the channel since even if it's password protected you can just sniff that as well. Wait until another person connects (shouldn't be to difficult since the bots will have randomised nicks and the real person won't) get their IP and report then to every authority you can find.
Yes they could be using a port bouncer but at least it's somewhere to start, and at that point they probably think they are safe.
If you're using offsite TFTP servers then the latest virus is the LEAST of your worries. TFTP has _NO_ authentication!
Re:Not an Athlon64, but an Opteron
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All Opterons are made on the same line, they all have the exact same core. They are then tested to see it the work in 8way, if not they are tested for 4way and if they fail that they are tested for 2way. In 2 way they only use 2 of the 3 HT cotrollers and only one talks to another CPU (the second connects to the HT controller). In 4way config the CPU's use 2 HT controllers to talk to CPUs and one of them uses the third to talk to an HT controller (in fact sometime they have 2 CPUs talking to HT controllers, one for PCI-X and the other for all the rest). Finally in 8way 4 of the CPUs use all 3 of their HT controllers and the 4 at the edges only use 2, but again some also have to talk to the HT controller(s) on the "outside"
We have sold a Quad Opteron system. So they do exist and work quite well. You can only buy them with chassis like this. The one we sold went for about $20k US and only had one HDD
Athlon64 will be in 2 sockets. The AthlonFX which is the dual channel version will be 940 pin (moving to 939 later). This I can only assume is so the motherboard will be avaliable at laucnh since it will just be a single CPU Opteron MB (like the Asus SK8N). The standard Athlon64 will be in 764 pin and have a single channel memory controller. Obviously if the released the FX in this package they would need a whole new line of motherboards that supported dual channel memory.
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Actually the number you're thinking of is 4GB. Also the opteron/Athlon64's will improve 32bit apps in other ways when large amounts of memory is required. This happens because _EACH_ 32 bit app can access it's own 4GB of memory. The OS/kernel will not be in this memory so the app will have all 4GB to itself. Unlike any 32bit based system today where the OS/kernel will typically take 1GB for itself
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It's not a one way Opteron in that all Opterons have 3 HT (HyperTransport) controllers and all A64's only have 1
If you're going to spam them, at least do it from your own mail server. That way if you're lucky they'll block your mail server at their firewall and then you'll never get spam again!:-)
For these low end IDE cars you need drivers because that is where the RAID is performed. The chip itself is just an IDE controller. The mirroring/stiping is actually done by the driver.
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Hold on there. Blaming the "open computer community" for not adding security to SMTP and DNS is like blaming the Model T Ford for all the poution in the world. Back when these protocols were invented it wasn't even concieved security could be a requirement, not to mention hey didn't have the processing power to do it in most cases.
The problem in my opinion is that these protocols were designed too well. They should have become overloaded and been replaced with something more appropriate a long time ago.
Apparently they already had, from the email the core team no longer consisted of the people writing most of the code. So basically more work was/is being done from people not on the core team/mailing list than by thos on it.
I would imagine they may reform the core team at a later date with the people actually doing the lions share of the work, or they'll just move their discussion regarding development to a different forum
Excuse the off topic-ness of this rant, but this is the problem with our population today. I say all fans covers should be removed and the consequences welcomed. If people are stupid enough (and I have no doubt they are) to put their extremities into fast moving blades I say they get what they deserve. And lets face it is it really worth the risk of letting the breed? Our planets resources are scarce enough at the moment without having to share them with the crud clogging up the filter at the bottom of the gene pool.
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OK I'm done
DRM should no longer scare _ANYONE_
When was the last time MS owned every webserver in existence?
My point is that there will be 2 possible outcomes to DRM
1. It will be MS only and they will lock out everything else. But doing this then means that over half of the webservers in the world are no longer able to host "secure" content and would probably result in IE bringing up 10 confirmation windows whenever you hit one of these sites. How many people would stand for this?
2. It will be avaliable to everyone and we will finally having a "trusted" computer model where copyrights are enforced in digital media and all related media. This may not be a bad thing as it will show digital media companies just how many people would by CD's when they can't download them (I'm thinking there will be no increase and it may in fact drop). This will of course invent new ways to copy media via an analogue system with little or no percieved difference (assuming the system isn't cracked in the first place)
So what we will get in the end is all the same media avaliable for download if we really want it (with possibly a slight quality loss), BUT we will also get a completly trusted computing environment for banking, online purchasing and even email (filtering SPAM anyone?)
I believe the movie was Apollo 13 (although I could be wrong) and the quote was basically "How does it feel to be sitting on 2 engines that can produce x thousand pounds of thrust and were assembled by the cheapest bidder". My concern is that by operating in that manner you lose all feedback as well as the brains of the people actually putting it together, once it's finshed
Except as other have stated, this mission had nothing to do with NASA, is was English
It's not christmas day everywhere at the same time you know.... here in fact it's 8am on Boxing day
Sorry in advance, but brings whole new meaning to the word "open"
No the source is not included. But all of these packages include a text file pointing you to a site that it can be downloaded from. ANd that is the difference
And based on that...Every machine in the world is already comprimised, so the fact that a few debian servers got cracked really doesn't make any difference now does it :-)
They're going down to 90nm early next year which should improve yeilds
Ok, so these zombies have to connect to SOMETHING to send a message to whoever runs them that they have infected xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx and it can be used as a proxy, right?!?!?!
So sniff the packets, find out where it's connecting (probably IRC of some sort), join the channel since even if it's password protected you can just sniff that as well. Wait until another person connects (shouldn't be to difficult since the bots will have randomised nicks and the real person won't) get their IP and report then to every authority you can find.
Yes they could be using a port bouncer but at least it's somewhere to start, and at that point they probably think they are safe.
HTTP.SYS in IIS6/W2K3 :-)
Sorry I don't disagree with your post at all but I just had to point that out :-)
If you're using offsite TFTP servers then the latest virus is the LEAST of your worries. TFTP has _NO_ authentication!
All Opterons are made on the same line, they all have the exact same core. They are then tested to see it the work in 8way, if not they are tested for 4way and if they fail that they are tested for 2way. In 2 way they only use 2 of the 3 HT cotrollers and only one talks to another CPU (the second connects to the HT controller). In 4way config the CPU's use 2 HT controllers to talk to CPUs and one of them uses the third to talk to an HT controller (in fact sometime they have 2 CPUs talking to HT controllers, one for PCI-X and the other for all the rest). Finally in 8way 4 of the CPUs use all 3 of their HT controllers and the 4 at the edges only use 2, but again some also have to talk to the HT controller(s) on the "outside"
We have sold a Quad Opteron system. So they do exist and work quite well. You can only buy them with chassis like this. The one we sold went for about $20k US and only had one HDD
Athlon64 will be in 2 sockets. The AthlonFX which is the dual channel version will be 940 pin (moving to 939 later). This I can only assume is so the motherboard will be avaliable at laucnh since it will just be a single CPU Opteron MB (like the Asus SK8N). The standard Athlon64 will be in 764 pin and have a single channel memory controller. Obviously if the released the FX in this package they would need a whole new line of motherboards that supported dual channel memory.
Actually the number you're thinking of is 4GB. Also the opteron/Athlon64's will improve 32bit apps in other ways when large amounts of memory is required. This happens because _EACH_ 32 bit app can access it's own 4GB of memory. The OS/kernel will not be in this memory so the app will have all 4GB to itself. Unlike any 32bit based system today where the OS/kernel will typically take 1GB for itself
It's not a one way Opteron in that all Opterons have 3 HT (HyperTransport) controllers and all A64's only have 1
If you're going to spam them, at least do it from your own mail server. That way if you're lucky they'll block your mail server at their firewall and then you'll never get spam again! :-)
And fill it with water :-)
For these low end IDE cars you need drivers because that is where the RAID is performed. The chip itself is just an IDE controller. The mirroring/stiping is actually done by the driver.
Actually he didn't, he said half that to compensate.. obviously for the "less than half"
I think it's fair to say that the general dispostition of anyone in technical support is usually "poor"
Actually Xeons use more power than Athlons, so any dual Xeon will wasily beat that. In saying that Opterons use even more power than Xeons....