Errr... Maybe memory fails me here, but Amiga's never properly multitasked until very recently. They worked on a task switching system, just like Macs. IIRC Archimedes were about the only thing around at the time that did properly multitask (or came close).
And archimedes as standard came with a monitor and ran higher res than the amiga. May not have had blitter etc, but statically were much nicer to use. I remember the arch version of lemmings blowing the amiga version into the weeds.
His guess was the number of Amiga users compared to the number of Linux users. Not how many 'w4r3z d00ds' there were. Read the post.
What he said was that a lot of Linux users are always pushing for games to be ported, but then expecting not to have to pay for them when they arrive.
I personally can sympathise. I run a rock club here in Edinburgh and DJ at others from time to time. All I ever see on the web about these clubs is either 'You play too much nu-metal - it's shite' or 'You play too much hardcore bollocks, it's shite' or 'You play too much 80's rock. It's shite'. People are *always* telling us what music we need to play more of. The first few times, when enough people wanted to have a club that would play their particular niche, we started one. Same venue, different night, advertised well in advance. How many of these loud-mouthed whingeing idiots ever turned up? None. How many of them started their own clubs? None. The excuses they made up for not ever going were phenomenal. It happened three times and all clubs bombed within weeks (we even got some of the whingeing idiots in question to DJ) So we lost money and learnt our lesson. We were fortunate that it was small scale and didn't break us. Loki, on the other hand, have learnt the hard way that the loudest mouths are routinely the quietest when it comes to following up what they say with action.
Sorry to see another company supporting Linux go. I can't say I've ever bought any of their games, but then the last games I ever bought was MDK. (I don't copy games either).
I thought C64 serial ran at a different voltage to PC serial, which was why it was a bugger to link the two. Anyway, considering how cheap 3.5inch drives were and how many games they would hold on a 720k disk, there didn't seem much point.
Why wintel is more prevalent than MacOS in one word: PIRACY. We've all done it - 'What machine do I get? Well, I know loads of people with windows software and cd-writers, and one guy with a Mac. Shit, I'd have to buy all my Mac software straight off...' It's a vicious circle that's somewhat ironically helping Microsoft maintain their position. If pirating became utterly impossible, I think we'd see a large shift in the market share.
They have 4.5% of market share. You seem to be forgetting that this is ONE company. The other 95.5% is owned by a hell of a lot more than 22 companies I suspect, which relatively gives apple a fucking huge slice of the pie.
'They end up making most of their money on tours and they know this.'
You what? How many tours have you been on exactly? It's one of the most expensive things a band can ever do. When Metallica toured with the black album, they took a hug net loss on the tour. Where bands make money is in merchandising and sponsorship. That's where the sizeable income is to be made in the business for the artists.
Cheers, dunno why, but my logical assumption was that if I turned it off for that program then I wouldn't have been able to use the scroll wheel. (I did look at the option previously but didn't try it). But I suppose that would have been too obvious.
So what exactly have I turned off? It still scrolls...
Argh. Probably. Whenever I use the scroll wheel on the win32 version (version 5.8, 6 beta and 6 actual), the cursor turns hollow and I become utterly unable to enter text. Tried every menu option and vi command I can think of but nothing works. I have to click on another window and then back on the vim window. Bloody wierd. Got the microsoft driver installed for the mouse, standard setup on win98.
Bollix. I give up, just have to remember not to use the scroll wheel.
I've used vim and gvim for ages and never had a problem except the odd time using vim on a putty (tm) terminal...
There are other editors, but the syntax highlighting is bloody useful at times.
(This is for cobol running on a unix system using windows terminals, so no, there's not a lot of choice)
I don't see the difficulty with learning the keys though, it's no worse than windows shortcut keys and a hell of a lot better than emacs or wordperfect shortcuts (well, that's my opinion anyway).
The only real annoying bug is that it doesn't work with a microsoft mouse with a scrollwheel. If you forget and use the wheel, you have to select another window for a few seconds and then select your gvim window again. Nothing major, but that's the only problem I've ever had with it.
Get a grip dipshit. When you've seen the results of someone who's new to computers, been sold the latest thing by their high street store because no-one can get by without computers these days etc. etc. and they get a virus triggered in outlook that mails everyone it can find, or wipes their hard drive or silently hangs up the connection and redials another one in Chile, then you tell me it doesn't cause harm and / or terror.
'it is both common and easily dealt with'. That, in one sentance is why linux is not on every desktop. It's why Microsoft and PC World and Dixons and Curries make a killing. Because the systems that actually work and their proponents seems to be unable to 'lower' themselves to the level of the common user, sneering at anyone who doesn't know the full hayes extended command set off by heart.
Try reading what you write before posting. You might not come across as such a high handed elitist idiot that way.
Anyway, why is it common? Why should I spend my time watching out for this crap? It's like saying that I should check under the diving board of my local pool every time I go swimming in case someone's moored up a mine there. 'Hey - It's common and easily dealt with. By the way, check no-one put acid in the shower tanks before you go in too'. It's a crime. It harms people. Both emotionally *and* financially.
How many 'surfers' get their online packages from either coverdiscs or random free rubbish that falls through the door or at supermarket checkouts etc etc etc. (Most of these people are newbies - statistically (sic) they have to be, cos the boom's been recent)
Now, how many of these CD's (1zillion free hours of AOL! Eternity free on compuserve!) have you seen with Linux setup utilies on them? Where is the ISP number and connection details on the CD packaging? Nope, I've not seen any of this either.
Now step on a bit further. Is a new (or maybe even not so new) user going to start up his windows machine and just put the CD in, or start up his (or her) linux box and try to work out all the settings? Okay, it's been a long time since I last tried to install linux on my machine. It's been on there about three times, from slackware 0.9 on an old 386 with 4 meg of memory and an 80 meg hard disk (downloaded X on the disc sets, got it running too!) Through three versions of Red Hat and one version of Corel that wouldn't install. All of these versions, I gave up trying to set up the net connection, cos it was too much hassle and I could easily dual boot.
(It wasn't the only thing that annoyed me - anyone else get fed up by having to umount an audio CD before you could eject it?)
I wouldn't call myself a computer newbie by any means. I've still got my ZX80, BBC B and my C64 and Amiga and various others. I program for a living, using SCO unix every day of the week, but it was just too much grief to set up. I didn't want to be a linux matyr that much though I'm sick to the back teeth with Windows ME and I suspect a lot of users will find themselves in the same position as me. It would be nice to use linux all the time, but until it has the ease of setup that windows does I'll wait thanks.
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I'm sorry, but as a veteran of more than one job writing presentation manager programs in C, I can quite easily say I'll be glad never to see that bloody system again. The only thing I ever like about it was Rexx scripting language.
We had an app built on some rather spiffy use of the SOM, but the guy who wrote the basic stuff obviously thought in binary and therefore wrote very cool but utterly unreadable code.:(
Mind you there's worse - when we ran out of stuff that needed doing on that, I got collared into being a Lotus Notes programmer (before version 4.5). Argh.
If a builder designs and builds a house for someone, he doesn't own that house and the owner is free to sell it on to whoever he/she wishes, however, there is nothing to stop that builder building exactly the same house for someone else should they wish it.
The problem is the artists are forced to sign this away to get what they see as a fair chance in the meat market known as the music industry.
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Or a kinetically powered one - Shake'n'Mac...
Errr... Maybe memory fails me here, but Amiga's never properly multitasked until very recently. They worked on a task switching system, just like Macs. IIRC Archimedes were about the only thing around at the time that did properly multitask (or came close).
And archimedes as standard came with a monitor and ran higher res than the amiga. May not have had blitter etc, but statically were much nicer to use. I remember the arch version of lemmings blowing the amiga version into the weeds.
OSX of course.
Heh, notice he hasn't posted again?
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Err.. Hello? Anyone remember the old Amiga PD disks? I certainly don't remember any source being included or available with them?
Er... no.
His guess was the number of Amiga users compared to the number of Linux users. Not how many 'w4r3z d00ds' there were. Read the post.
What he said was that a lot of Linux users are always pushing for games to be ported, but then expecting not to have to pay for them when they arrive.
I personally can sympathise. I run a rock club here in Edinburgh and DJ at others from time to time. All I ever see on the web about these clubs is either 'You play too much nu-metal - it's shite' or 'You play too much hardcore bollocks, it's shite' or 'You play too much 80's rock. It's shite'. People are *always* telling us what music we need to play more of. The first few times, when enough people wanted to have a club that would play their particular niche, we started one. Same venue, different night, advertised well in advance. How many of these loud-mouthed whingeing idiots ever turned up? None. How many of them started their own clubs? None. The excuses they made up for not ever going were phenomenal. It happened three times and all clubs bombed within weeks (we even got some of the whingeing idiots in question to DJ) So we lost money and learnt our lesson. We were fortunate that it was small scale and didn't break us. Loki, on the other hand, have learnt the hard way that the loudest mouths are routinely the quietest when it comes to following up what they say with action.
Sorry to see another company supporting Linux go. I can't say I've ever bought any of their games, but then the last games I ever bought was MDK. (I don't copy games either).
Ah yes, the days of battlechess...
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SCREEEK. AWWWWK. (tinny voice) 'AAARGH'.
Superb.
I thought C64 serial ran at a different voltage to PC serial, which was why it was a bugger to link the two. Anyway, considering how cheap 3.5inch drives were and how many games they would hold on a 720k disk, there didn't seem much point.
And it would be backed up onto what?
Why wintel is more prevalent than MacOS in one word: PIRACY. We've all done it - 'What machine do I get? Well, I know loads of people with windows software and cd-writers, and one guy with a Mac. Shit, I'd have to buy all my Mac software straight off...' It's a vicious circle that's somewhat ironically helping Microsoft maintain their position. If pirating became utterly impossible, I think we'd see a large shift in the market share.
They have 4.5% of market share. You seem to be forgetting that this is ONE company. The other 95.5% is owned by a hell of a lot more than 22 companies I suspect, which relatively gives apple a fucking huge slice of the pie.
Ah, that'll be funny is in 'Geek' not funny as in 'speech'...
'They end up making most of their money on tours and they know this.'
You what? How many tours have you been on exactly? It's one of the most expensive things a band can ever do. When Metallica toured with the black album, they took a hug net loss on the tour. Where bands make money is in merchandising and sponsorship. That's where the sizeable income is to be made in the business for the artists.
Cheers, dunno why, but my logical assumption was that if I turned it off for that program then I wouldn't have been able to use the scroll wheel. (I did look at the option previously but didn't try it). But I suppose that would have been too obvious.
So what exactly have I turned off? It still scrolls...
Argh. Probably. Whenever I use the scroll wheel on the win32 version (version 5.8, 6 beta and 6 actual), the cursor turns hollow and I become utterly unable to enter text. Tried every menu option and vi command I can think of but nothing works. I have to click on another window and then back on the vim window. Bloody wierd. Got the microsoft driver installed for the mouse, standard setup on win98.
Bollix. I give up, just have to remember not to use the scroll wheel.
What's the betting that they'll only 'give' the source code to fully registered microsoft developers?
Probably have to have a platinum 'I fellated Bill Gates' card to go with it too...
I'm using the win32 version... Not out of choice, you understand...
I've used vim and gvim for ages and never had a problem except the odd time using vim on a putty (tm) terminal...
There are other editors, but the syntax highlighting is bloody useful at times.
(This is for cobol running on a unix system using windows terminals, so no, there's not a lot of choice)
I don't see the difficulty with learning the keys though, it's no worse than windows shortcut keys and a hell of a lot better than emacs or wordperfect shortcuts (well, that's my opinion anyway).
The only real annoying bug is that it doesn't work with a microsoft mouse with a scrollwheel. If you forget and use the wheel, you have to select another window for a few seconds and then select your gvim window again. Nothing major, but that's the only problem I've ever had with it.
Get a grip dipshit. When you've seen the results of someone who's new to computers, been sold the latest thing by their high street store because no-one can get by without computers these days etc. etc. and they get a virus triggered in outlook that mails everyone it can find, or wipes their hard drive or silently hangs up the connection and redials another one in Chile, then you tell me it doesn't cause harm and / or terror.
'it is both common and easily dealt with'. That, in one sentance is why linux is not on every desktop. It's why Microsoft and PC World and Dixons and Curries make a killing. Because the systems that actually work and their proponents seems to be unable to 'lower' themselves to the level of the common user, sneering at anyone who doesn't know the full hayes extended command set off by heart.
Try reading what you write before posting. You might not come across as such a high handed elitist idiot that way.
Anyway, why is it common? Why should I spend my time watching out for this crap? It's like saying that I should check under the diving board of my local pool every time I go swimming in case someone's moored up a mine there. 'Hey - It's common and easily dealt with. By the way, check no-one put acid in the shower tanks before you go in too'. It's a crime. It harms people. Both emotionally *and* financially.
Take this logically...
How many 'surfers' get their online packages from either coverdiscs or random free rubbish that falls through the door or at supermarket checkouts etc etc etc. (Most of these people are newbies - statistically (sic) they have to be, cos the boom's been recent)
Now, how many of these CD's (1zillion free hours of AOL! Eternity free on compuserve!) have you seen with Linux setup utilies on them? Where is the ISP number and connection details on the CD packaging? Nope, I've not seen any of this either.
Now step on a bit further. Is a new (or maybe even not so new) user going to start up his windows machine and just put the CD in, or start up his (or her) linux box and try to work out all the settings? Okay, it's been a long time since I last tried to install linux on my machine. It's been on there about three times, from slackware 0.9 on an old 386 with 4 meg of memory and an 80 meg hard disk (downloaded X on the disc sets, got it running too!) Through three versions of Red Hat and one version of Corel that wouldn't install. All of these versions, I gave up trying to set up the net connection, cos it was too much hassle and I could easily dual boot.
(It wasn't the only thing that annoyed me - anyone else get fed up by having to umount an audio CD before you could eject it?)
I wouldn't call myself a computer newbie by any means. I've still got my ZX80, BBC B and my C64 and Amiga and various others. I program for a living, using SCO unix every day of the week, but it was just too much grief to set up. I didn't want to be a linux matyr that much though I'm sick to the back teeth with Windows ME and I suspect a lot of users will find themselves in the same position as me. It would be nice to use linux all the time, but until it has the ease of setup that windows does I'll wait thanks.
I'd better remember that next time I go to the hardware store and see 'Licensed only for use with ACME handsaws' on the piece of wood I'm buying...
I'm sorry, but as a veteran of more than one job writing presentation manager programs in C, I can quite easily say I'll be glad never to see that bloody system again. The only thing I ever like about it was Rexx scripting language.
:(
We had an app built on some rather spiffy use of the SOM, but the guy who wrote the basic stuff obviously thought in binary and therefore wrote very cool but utterly unreadable code.
Mind you there's worse - when we ran out of stuff that needed doing on that, I got collared into being a Lotus Notes programmer (before version 4.5). Argh.
Maybe I missed the point here - I thought you meant using KDE as a replacement window manager for Windows
Sounded quite nice for a moment...
Spot on.
If a builder designs and builds a house for someone, he doesn't own that house and the owner is free to sell it on to whoever he/she wishes, however, there is nothing to stop that builder building exactly the same house for someone else should they wish it.
The problem is the artists are forced to sign this away to get what they see as a fair chance in the meat market known as the music industry.