but they weren't really using AutoTune on Mickey Mouse Club recordings.
Not Antares AutoTune, the brand name software plugin for digital audio workstations, no, that's what I said. But you're completely missing the point I was making, which was that contrary to the AC's ignorant assertion, pitch correction was available long before BS (what appropriate initials) had a career, and most DSP outboards like the Eventide H3000 sound so much better than AutoTune that nobody outside the industry knew they existed. Just because you can't hear the tonal degradation and glitching unique to AutoTune on vocals, you can't assume pitch correction hasn't been used; you can only assume that if they're out of tune.
So would Disney, a sausage factory run by bean counters, spend $x00 on hours of studio time to get a good vocal take instead of $x to instantly fix a bad one? Hmm, that's a head scratcher...
Also, to be technical, here is Britney singing live (and with a fairly awesome, if untrained, voice):
That's not being technical, it's clutching at straws. First, loud!=awesome; the last thing I heard howling like that stopped when I gave it a saucer of milk. Second, some very quick research reveals that by the time BS was on Star Search she'd spent three summers at the NYC Professional Performing Arts School, so your incorrect assumption she was untrained in that video simply proves (a) even with world class training she can still pass for untrained, and (b) there is a significant gulf between what you believe and reality, despite Google. Third, if you know anything about the technicalities of singing you'd know women's voices change register at puberty, just not as dramatically as men's do, so how someone sings as a child has little relation to how they sing as an adult; as an adult when she doesn't mime on stage it's embarrassingly bad.
I've never been a huge fan of Michael Jackson or Madonna, but at least they put in an energetic stage routine while actually singing, which you can hear from their breathing. There is ample evidence that BS can't, and that's with real time pitch correction as an option.
How is this 'idle'? He tried to f.....g kill people!
It's "idle" because he failed, and he wasn't even up against a British secret agent. My loyal henchmen are having a good laugh about this right now (their union insisted I let them read Slashdot on their breaks from building my death ray).
Incorrect. Antares AutoTune software has been around since 1997 (I believe Innosense's first single was released that year), but stand-alone DSP rack units were available before Britney was an accident in search of a condom. I haven't been an audio engineer quite that long, but I was doing real-time pitch correction* with an Eventide Ultraharmonizer in the studio back in 1989, and using a Digitech IPS 33B for MIDI controlled pitch and harmonies live in 1994. All that's changed is that the technology has become available to people who don't have a couple of thousand to spend on a single effects processor, and ever since Cher released "Believe" it's been used at it's harshest setting, which makes it obvious.
*I view pitch correction as a way of improving a take with a dud note or two but great feel (like a keyboard player would use a sequence editor to fix a slipped finger), not as a crutch for someone who can't sing at all, and as a huge time (=money) saver for precise backing harmonies; if every note is a problem, my advice is "learn to sing" (and yes, I have said that in the studio). Personally, I don't find the obvious snap-note effect any more or less annoying than distortion or vocoder...a little overused, perhaps, but I could say the same about synthesiser and guitar effects presets, and nobody bitches about them making everything sound the same...
Second, if a person's earbuds are so loud that the sound is invading someone else's personal space, the brief tone should be enough to put their eardrums out permanently.
Bad idea: they'll just push the volume higher to compensate.
A better idea would be to fit MP3 players with HT circuitry with the earbuds as terminals. Pavlovian behavioural training and electroshock therapy in one!
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You'll learn the truth about Roswell and JFK before you see those emails.
Wait, JFK landed in a flying saucer in 1947?!? But that means GHW Bush saved the world from alien overlords in '63...
but they weren't really using AutoTune on Mickey Mouse Club recordings.
Not Antares AutoTune, the brand name software plugin for digital audio workstations, no, that's what I said. But you're completely missing the point I was making, which was that contrary to the AC's ignorant assertion, pitch correction was available long before BS (what appropriate initials) had a career, and most DSP outboards like the Eventide H3000 sound so much better than AutoTune that nobody outside the industry knew they existed. Just because you can't hear the tonal degradation and glitching unique to AutoTune on vocals, you can't assume pitch correction hasn't been used; you can only assume that if they're out of tune.
So would Disney, a sausage factory run by bean counters, spend $x00 on hours of studio time to get a good vocal take instead of $x to instantly fix a bad one? Hmm, that's a head scratcher...
Also, to be technical, here is Britney singing live (and with a fairly awesome, if untrained, voice):
That's not being technical, it's clutching at straws. First, loud!=awesome; the last thing I heard howling like that stopped when I gave it a saucer of milk. Second, some very quick research reveals that by the time BS was on Star Search she'd spent three summers at the NYC Professional Performing Arts School, so your incorrect assumption she was untrained in that video simply proves (a) even with world class training she can still pass for untrained, and (b) there is a significant gulf between what you believe and reality, despite Google. Third, if you know anything about the technicalities of singing you'd know women's voices change register at puberty, just not as dramatically as men's do, so how someone sings as a child has little relation to how they sing as an adult; as an adult when she doesn't mime on stage it's embarrassingly bad.
I've never been a huge fan of Michael Jackson or Madonna, but at least they put in an energetic stage routine while actually singing, which you can hear from their breathing. There is ample evidence that BS can't, and that's with real time pitch correction as an option.
the uneducated masses feel that what is not "natural" must be bad, while what is "natural" must be good.
I have a simple solution for this: when someone says that I offer them a nice glass of fresh snake venom.
How is this 'idle'? He tried to f.....g kill people!
It's "idle" because he failed, and he wasn't even up against a British secret agent. My loyal henchmen are having a good laugh about this right now (their union insisted I let them read Slashdot on their breaks from building my death ray).
Incorrect. Antares AutoTune software has been around since 1997 (I believe Innosense's first single was released that year), but stand-alone DSP rack units were available before Britney was an accident in search of a condom. I haven't been an audio engineer quite that long, but I was doing real-time pitch correction* with an Eventide Ultraharmonizer in the studio back in 1989, and using a Digitech IPS 33B for MIDI controlled pitch and harmonies live in 1994. All that's changed is that the technology has become available to people who don't have a couple of thousand to spend on a single effects processor, and ever since Cher released "Believe" it's been used at it's harshest setting, which makes it obvious.
*I view pitch correction as a way of improving a take with a dud note or two but great feel (like a keyboard player would use a sequence editor to fix a slipped finger), not as a crutch for someone who can't sing at all, and as a huge time (=money) saver for precise backing harmonies; if every note is a problem, my advice is "learn to sing" (and yes, I have said that in the studio). Personally, I don't find the obvious snap-note effect any more or less annoying than distortion or vocoder...a little overused, perhaps, but I could say the same about synthesiser and guitar effects presets, and nobody bitches about them making everything sound the same...
You asked for it!
To most people out there LOUD == good.
Actually there's some truth to that. The ear is less sensitive to low and high frequencies at low levels, so cheap headphones, speakers, earbuds, etc, that sound boxy at low levels sound not quite as bad at high levels.
Second, if a person's earbuds are so loud that the sound is invading someone else's personal space, the brief tone should be enough to put their eardrums out permanently.
Bad idea: they'll just push the volume higher to compensate.
A better idea would be to fit MP3 players with HT circuitry with the earbuds as terminals. Pavlovian behavioural training and electroshock therapy in one!
Your threat is feeble. I have recordings of Britney Spears singing without AutoTune, which I understand are prohibited by the Hague Convention...
Didn't happen...next week? Only a time traveller would get their tenses mixed up like that, therefore:
RODRIGOANDRADE IS A LHC SABOTEUR FROM THE FUTURE! SIEZE HIM!!!
Have you seen inside an "adult shop" recently? Looks that way.
Besides, whatever it takes to get teenagers into science is fine with me.
When you're on your own there's no sense taking all day about it.
Science isn't about instant gratification.
Not a sperm donor, I take it.
...so he should have quoted something by Bill Haley and the Comets...?
Apparently a mininova does collapse into a black hole...
The "for nerds" part. That lowers the threshold for trivia related to anime or Linux; both together means bonus points.
If Star Trek was involved as well there'd be a lot of monitors in need of wiping down...
I do have milk on my breakfast cereal, it has been pretreated with an enzyme to split the lactose into galactose.
Galactose...isn't he the Silver Surfer's boss? That's one badass breakfast!
You're just bitter because you didn't get the tear gas you wanted for Christmas...
Cops powerless against teenage girls.
I think I can see why they needed to arrest someone...
Aye, England's finest politician is sorely missed.
Robert Downey Jr doesn't come alive in anything I've seen him in, so jiggling around a photo makes an exciting change of pace IMO.
Birds that fly south?
Ah, the gentle thud of the returning swallows....
So just because a guy is black it automatically means he is a criminal?
No, just because a guy is a politician it automatically means he is a criminal.
In a nutshell, don't get your panties in a bunch.
Though that would provide an extra degree of shielding in vital areas...
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