Actually, the original poster was correct.
With prejudice means that the charges or suit may not be refiled. Without prejudice leaves the door open for future suits
It isn't illegal. However, IF you adhere to the terms of the license, then by buying a box (or boxen) and buying no licensed software, you've effectively bought a $200.00 paperweight.
Ebay is a vendor, just like any other store they have no power to police, the only power they do have is over your account with them;
They aren't really even a vendor. They are an advertising medium. The "auction" format notwithstanding. Ebay is simply providing advertising. You (as a seller) use their service to advertise your goods, and I (as a buyer) browse it to make purchases.
There is really very little difference between ebay and a newspaper classified except for scope.
If you had a purchse go bad on something you purchased through an ad you saw in the paper what do you do? Complain to the newspaper?
Of course not, You complain to the seller, then to the BBB, then to appropriate law enforcement ( Postal inspector, Attorney general etc.)
It's unreasonable to expect EBAY, regardless of what the may profess to get involved in disputes between buyers and sellers, where they have only acted as an advertising vehicle.
Its a shrink wrap license.. Did you open the box?
Congratulations you just agreed to the license.
Its no different than the shrink wrapped license with any other piece of software
If the washing machine had special screwes fitted to prevent me from taking it appart if i choose to force the screws out with a crowbar or other similar device thats my choice. Why are computers so different from other products???
because computers, or in this case Xbox are not simply hardware. Xbox also includes code in the form of a BIOS, OS etc. Those items have license restrictions associated with them. Just as when purchasing any other piece of software, when you buy an X you agree to the terms of the license.
The other thing that most of the post I have read miss is that things like Linux on the Xbox cost msft money. They (or so they claim) lose money on the sale of the boxes. They expect to make it up from licensing on games. However if you don't buy any games, they aren't making any money. They therefore have considerabl motivation to ensure that they are used only for gaming, with approved (read license fees paid) titles run on them
The issue here isn't Mickey MOuse. At least not exclusively. The issue here is copyrighted works in general. The thing that makes Disney so egregious is that with a few notable exceptions (MM is one) they have done very little original work that has been successful. Almost all of their successful (Disney, not dreamworks et al.) movies were taken from the public domain.
Cinderella, Pinocchio, Beauty and the Beast, The hunchback of Notre Dame, Aladdin Etc.
They want the benefit (and profit) of using others work that has fallen into the PD and they want to make damn sure that no one else ever has that same opportunity
The article states :
The company is pursuing partnerships with cable and satellite providers that hope to incorporate DVR technology into their hardware. People prefer getting one fat bill from their cable company to sending a monthly check to some DVR company in Silicon Valley.
In fact they already have some of these in place. Directv (as of my last statement) has taken over operation of DirectTV- Tivo (and lowered the monthly rate). I see this as a win-win for me. If Tivo continues to operate, I get to enjoy upgrades as they become available, and if they fail, I still presumably have DirectTv to provide me with the program listings, and at a paltry 5.00/month I'll be a customer for life.
I have a fair amount of experince with sites like these both from an employers and well as a prospective employees perspective. And in my opinion they really aren't worth the trouble.
From the employer perspective we get something like 400 resumes for every posting. 375 of them are useless. The people are severely underqualified, way over qualified, live outside of a reasonable commuting area, have unrealistic salary requirements etc. Because of the ease of submission, or perhaps because they can't read we get all of these useless resumes. That makes it harder for us to sort, and less likely that we'll be able to spot the best candidate before becoming fatigued
From the prospective employee side, everytime I send a resume I know that 500 other people, most of whom aren't qualified have sent resumes for the same job. OTOH whenever we run a newspaper only ad, or when I have replied to newspaper ads, we get a small number, of almost always qualified applicants, and as an applicant I almost always get a call back
I'd recommend using all of the traditional methods, friends, family, classified etc. And if you're going to send a resume, if they dont speccify email, send one printed, it gets far more attention
Here is someone with 10 of them for sale on EBAY for $99.00 each.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item =1379631771
I recently bought my second unit, a phillips dsr6000 from www.americansatellite.com which I found by linking from www.tivo.com for $119.00
As fascinating as this may seem for the geek factor of recording on your PC and then piping through a PS2 to the TV, you can still buy a standalone TIVO for ~ $100.00 . Its quiet, requires no tinkering, doesn't require any other new hardware or cabling, and is incredibly simple to setup and use.
This just strikes me as a case of using a sledgehammer to kill a cockroach. If you want Tivo, just buy one, and save the tinkering time for something more interesting
You've made a number of assumptions none of them good. One assumption is that the performance of a 5400 rpm ide drive (thats all the 320Gb drives are) would be acceptable for an application like this. It won't. You'd want 15000 rpm scsi-3 drives at a minimum, and you'd want them hotswappable. Figure a grand each for 140Gb drives.. in bulk Then there are a large number of other factors mentioned by others here.
Raid controllers, servers to house it all, switching, cabling, racks etc.
What about power? and cooling? Ever cost out one of those huge liebert internal cooling systems? Don't forget you need 2 of them? What about the power.. you'll need huge UPS's for something like this.
How about backups? You'll need to be able to back this all up.. and transport the data offsite in a timely manner. Thats ALOT of DLT tapes, not to mention the costs of the tape libraries, drives, off-site storage facilities (perhaps you'd like to keep all of thos tapes in a locker at the space place? ) etc involved .
Now.. how are you going to access this? with 500 partitions? or perhaps you want some more sophisticated storage management software?
What about support? Are you going to accept responsibility for mainting this thing? or are you.. like most businesses going to want 24x7x4 support? Since support on products like this often involves flying an engineer in from out of state.. on almost no notice.. its not cheap.
The reality of this is that for that kind of storage you need a SAN and that means big dollars. The 2 most commons SANS are EMC (which I'd bet was what this estimate was for) and Compaq storage works. EMC is the more mature solution, but also MUCH more expensive. They often outpace Compaq and the other vendors who make similar products by %300 or more.
Is $20M too much?.. probably. Is any solution involving a room full of servers loaded with commodity IDE drives acceptible.. absolutely not.
Better to shop other EMC vendors, and other SAN solutions and make the best deal on the right product.
How about using softwindows and then running outlook? I've done exactly this on pre OS X macs.. not sure if there is an OS X compliant version of softwindows yet or not.
The student copy of Mathematica is functionally identical to the retail version and sells for $99.00 . Available at the bookstore of most any college or university
Perhaps these guys should be taking cooking lessons instead of worrying about 100 minutes of jaguar. With knife skills like those shown in the photos he'll be needing to type without fingertips before too long
The dealer has no advantage. The house has the advantage. The actual off whether betting player or dealer are 50:50 . The house advantage comes from the commission they juice on the bets.
What are the odds that your Aunt Ginny or any equally technically inept person is actually using *nix for something so mundane as typing a letter. She is almost certainly using some Flavor of Windows, or perhaps a Mac. OS X is already case insensitive, and lets face it, Aunt Ginny is never going to open a term window anyway. As long as she can point and click she can find and open her letter regardless of how its named.
In the really unlikely event that she is in fact using *nix do you really think she's using vi to send those letters home? or is it more likely she is using KDE or Gnome as a windows substitute and is still quite fine as long as her mouse finger holds out?
I'd say this is really a non issue.
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and LOTS of it
What they actually want is the return of the frequency spectrum allocated for analog television. Digital television can be broadcast over a much narrower spectrum. By converting all TV over to digital the FCC can then auction off licenses to use the now vacant VHF and UHF frequencies. These are huge blocks of bandwith worth potentially hundred of BILLIONS of dollars.
Does anyone see the motivation now?
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I did see this particular session and it was very interesting although not particularly on topic. John Young gave none of the presentation which was given entirely by Deborah although he did take questions afterwards. The topic was "Standing up to authority" and while John answered a fair number of questions regarding cryptome and what/why/how they publish, the main presentation focused more on the history of architecture in midtown Manhattan. It was actually quite interesting, just not particularly on topic.
Universities have licensed code/protocols/ideas for years. A well known example to slashdotters would be the money paid to Berkley for the work done there by Diffie-Hellman, and the licensing fees paid by RSA to gain the rights to the work done there by Ron Rivest. In addition, universities routinely patent the results of other (non CS) research, and then sell/license the results to subsidize further reseacrh
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Actually, the original poster was correct. With prejudice means that the charges or suit may not be refiled. Without prejudice leaves the door open for future suits
It isn't illegal. However, IF you adhere to the terms of the license, then by buying a box (or boxen) and buying no licensed software, you've effectively bought a $200.00 paperweight.
Ebay is a vendor, just like any other store they have no power to police, the only power they do have is over your account with them;
They aren't really even a vendor. They are an advertising medium. The "auction" format notwithstanding. Ebay is simply providing advertising. You (as a seller) use their service to advertise your goods, and I (as a buyer) browse it to make purchases.
There is really very little difference between ebay and a newspaper classified except for scope. If you had a purchse go bad on something you purchased through an ad you saw in the paper what do you do? Complain to the newspaper?
Of course not, You complain to the seller, then to the BBB, then to appropriate law enforcement ( Postal inspector, Attorney general etc.) It's unreasonable to expect EBAY, regardless of what the may profess to get involved in disputes between buyers and sellers, where they have only acted as an advertising vehicle.
Its a shrink wrap license.. Did you open the box? Congratulations you just agreed to the license. Its no different than the shrink wrapped license with any other piece of software
If the washing machine had special screwes fitted to prevent me from taking it appart if i choose to force the screws out with a crowbar or other similar device thats my choice. Why are computers so different from other products???
because computers, or in this case Xbox are not simply hardware. Xbox also includes code in the form of a BIOS, OS etc. Those items have license restrictions associated with them. Just as when purchasing any other piece of software, when you buy an X you agree to the terms of the license.
The other thing that most of the post I have read miss is that things like Linux on the Xbox cost msft money. They (or so they claim) lose money on the sale of the boxes. They expect to make it up from licensing on games. However if you don't buy any games, they aren't making any money. They therefore have considerabl motivation to ensure that they are used only for gaming, with approved (read license fees paid) titles run on them
I keep several pair in my box.. Great for pulling screws out of tight spots, fishing wires.. etc
The issue here isn't Mickey MOuse. At least not exclusively. The issue here is copyrighted works in general. The thing that makes Disney so egregious is that with a few notable exceptions (MM is one) they have done very little original work that has been successful. Almost all of their successful (Disney, not dreamworks et al.) movies were taken from the public domain. Cinderella, Pinocchio, Beauty and the Beast, The hunchback of Notre Dame, Aladdin Etc.
They want the benefit (and profit) of using others work that has fallen into the PD and they want to make damn sure that no one else ever has that same opportunity
The article states :
The company is pursuing partnerships with cable and satellite providers that hope to incorporate DVR technology into their hardware. People prefer getting one fat bill from their cable company to sending a monthly check to some DVR company in Silicon Valley.
In fact they already have some of these in place. Directv (as of my last statement) has taken over operation of DirectTV- Tivo (and lowered the monthly rate). I see this as a win-win for me. If Tivo continues to operate, I get to enjoy upgrades as they become available, and if they fail, I still presumably have DirectTv to provide me with the program listings, and at a paltry 5.00/month I'll be a customer for life.
I have a fair amount of experince with sites like these both from an employers and well as a prospective employees perspective. And in my opinion they really aren't worth the trouble.
From the employer perspective we get something like 400 resumes for every posting. 375 of them are useless. The people are severely underqualified, way over qualified, live outside of a reasonable commuting area, have unrealistic salary requirements etc. Because of the ease of submission, or perhaps because they can't read we get all of these useless resumes. That makes it harder for us to sort, and less likely that we'll be able to spot the best candidate before becoming fatigued
From the prospective employee side, everytime I send a resume I know that 500 other people, most of whom aren't qualified have sent resumes for the same job. OTOH whenever we run a newspaper only ad, or when I have replied to newspaper ads, we get a small number, of almost always qualified applicants, and as an applicant I almost always get a call back
I'd recommend using all of the traditional methods, friends, family, classified etc. And if you're going to send a resume, if they dont speccify email, send one printed, it gets far more attention
Here is someone with 10 of them for sale on EBAY for $99.00 each.m =1379631771
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ite
I recently bought my second unit, a phillips dsr6000 from www.americansatellite.com which I found by linking from www.tivo.com for $119.00
As fascinating as this may seem for the geek factor of recording on your PC and then piping through a PS2 to the TV, you can still buy a standalone TIVO for ~ $100.00 . Its quiet, requires no tinkering, doesn't require any other new hardware or cabling, and is incredibly simple to setup and use.
This just strikes me as a case of using a sledgehammer to kill a cockroach. If you want Tivo, just buy one, and save the tinkering time for something more interesting
You've made a number of assumptions none of them good. One assumption is that the performance of a 5400 rpm ide drive (thats all the 320Gb drives are) would be acceptable for an application like this. It won't. You'd want 15000 rpm scsi-3 drives at a minimum, and you'd want them hotswappable. Figure a grand each for 140Gb drives.. in bulk Then there are a large number of other factors mentioned by others here. Raid controllers, servers to house it all, switching, cabling, racks etc.
What about power? and cooling? Ever cost out one of those huge liebert internal cooling systems? Don't forget you need 2 of them? What about the power.. you'll need huge UPS's for something like this.
How about backups? You'll need to be able to back this all up.. and transport the data offsite in a timely manner. Thats ALOT of DLT tapes, not to mention the costs of the tape libraries, drives, off-site storage facilities (perhaps you'd like to keep all of thos tapes in a locker at the space place? ) etc involved .
Now.. how are you going to access this? with 500 partitions? or perhaps you want some more sophisticated storage management software?
What about support? Are you going to accept responsibility for mainting this thing? or are you.. like most businesses going to want 24x7x4 support? Since support on products like this often involves flying an engineer in from out of state.. on almost no notice.. its not cheap.
The reality of this is that for that kind of storage you need a SAN and that means big dollars. The 2 most commons SANS are EMC (which I'd bet was what this estimate was for) and Compaq storage works. EMC is the more mature solution, but also MUCH more expensive. They often outpace Compaq and the other vendors who make similar products by %300 or more.
Is $20M too much?.. probably. Is any solution involving a room full of servers loaded with commodity IDE drives acceptible.. absolutely not.
Better to shop other EMC vendors, and other SAN solutions and make the best deal on the right product.
How about using softwindows and then running outlook? I've done exactly this on pre OS X macs.. not sure if there is an OS X compliant version of softwindows yet or not.
The student copy of Mathematica is functionally identical to the retail version and sells for $99.00 . Available at the bookstore of most any college or university
Perhaps these guys should be taking cooking lessons instead of worrying about 100 minutes of jaguar. With knife skills like those shown in the photos he'll be needing to type without fingertips before too long
The dealer has no advantage. The house has the advantage. The actual off whether betting player or dealer are 50:50 . The house advantage comes from the commission they juice on the bets.
What are the odds that your Aunt Ginny or any equally technically inept person is actually using *nix for something so mundane as typing a letter. She is almost certainly using some Flavor of Windows, or perhaps a Mac. OS X is already case insensitive, and lets face it, Aunt Ginny is never going to open a term window anyway. As long as she can point and click she can find and open her letter regardless of how its named. In the really unlikely event that she is in fact using *nix do you really think she's using vi to send those letters home? or is it more likely she is using KDE or Gnome as a windows substitute and is still quite fine as long as her mouse finger holds out? I'd say this is really a non issue. .
and LOTS of it What they actually want is the return of the frequency spectrum allocated for analog television. Digital television can be broadcast over a much narrower spectrum. By converting all TV over to digital the FCC can then auction off licenses to use the now vacant VHF and UHF frequencies. These are huge blocks of bandwith worth potentially hundred of BILLIONS of dollars. Does anyone see the motivation now?
I did see this particular session and it was very interesting although not particularly on topic. John Young gave none of the presentation which was given entirely by Deborah although he did take questions afterwards. The topic was "Standing up to authority" and while John answered a fair number of questions regarding cryptome and what/why/how they publish, the main presentation focused more on the history of architecture in midtown Manhattan. It was actually quite interesting, just not particularly on topic.
Universities have licensed code/protocols/ideas for years. A well known example to slashdotters would be the money paid to Berkley for the work done there by Diffie-Hellman, and the licensing fees paid by RSA to gain the rights to the work done there by Ron Rivest. In addition, universities routinely patent the results of other (non CS) research, and then sell/license the results to subsidize further reseacrh