2. How do apt-getters and up2daters really know they are getting nsa-backdoor-free binaries (besides having a server in their country rebuild all the binaries automatically..) I.e. how to make best case for linux security over M$. Doubt full answer is "duh, MD5".
While I can't speak for up2daters, I know that Debian Maintainers would scream if anyone tampered with a mirrored version of their work. It would be reported at www.debian.org and here before you could say "reinstall" from trusted source. DNS attacks are evil, but they will be reported.
The underlying belief structure of all science must be free speech, and all the usefull arts rise or fall based on that freedom.
As you noted, enemies of freedom are happy to use all the tools others develop to secure their power. They have the freedom to choose, those under them do not.
I've more often heard that about M$ "products" here at work. Nice to see how large orgainzations have constants, regardless of who's in charge and what they say they think. If only there were something there about "empowerment".
I mean, I'm glad to see the rest of the world smartening up and kicking the MS habit, but unless the U.S. gives up it's vision of a global industry dominated by "their" companies (heh), I don't think they will push alternatives very hard.
From recent laws, outrageous patents and what not, it's more like when M$ is going to push "their" government to bully the world?
As someone more clever than me pointed out, if you teach the compiler itself to make backdoors you can backdoor any system, even if the user recompiles the compiler.
People have been publishing things as long as there has been writing. Their motives have spanned from public interest to concealed private interest to crass comercial writing. All motives have produced their share of worthwhile works.
The only difference between now, movable press, and a room full of monks is the cost involved. Lower costs made comercial publishing for entertainment possible. Now it's making it a difficult proposition again.
Oh well. Lately, it's the publishers that have enjoyed the proffits at the expense of the artist. Once upon a time someone like Poe could open up a magazine of his own and almost make a living at it. Hemingway, Thompson and others managed to get by. These days, forget it. Warner Brothers vrs. the author of Harry Potter, who's got the profits? When then the comercial rewards have become so poor, why not just give your work away? I've always enjoyed the works of love better anyhow. Hesiod, Homer, Virgil, Dante, RMS.
The danger comes from those who would keep you from sharing to protect their interests. This has happened before, but never on such a wide scale as popular culture. In the west, the church has fought specific puclications on natural philosophy and governments have fought political tracts. Today, however, many people can only hum tunes sold to them by five music publishers, have images placed into their heads by four different media giants, and so their very hopes and dreams forged by a small number of corporate interests. As these attack all forms of knowledge trasmision, including PublicLibraries, private devices even private thoughts, and we might do best to avoid helping those who would tax us. Why not preferentially use free works?
Due to the message we received from the Exchange group, we recommend that you do not sync your palm pilot with Outlook until this mailbox data has been restored. Your palm pilot my contain the only available copy of this data. We will let you know when we receive an update from the Exchange group.
Thanks,
IT Field Services
-----Original Message-----
From: XXXXX
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:06 PM
To: Server XXX-XXXX
Subject: Virus Update
Importance: High
In an effort to purge Outlook on the gone.scr virus, inbox messages, contacts, task, etc with the characters "hi" in the subject line have been affected. Exchange is investigating the timeline to restore the data.
Thanks!
Exadmin
--End transmision--
Thanks indeed. I thought the rule message was a joke. Now I see just how powerful M$ Admin tools really are! Nice work, Exchange Group.
Automobiles no cure either.
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You have never been to Paris have you? With mixed use 7 floor construction, you really can have everything in walking distance. Subways are there for the elderly and infirm.
Some early US suburbs, like Uptown New Orleans, got it right too. It's a little more spread out, but there is no need for a car. Work was concentrated Downtown and on the river. A system of trolleys used to get people there who could not walk. The neighborhoods themselves had all the basics of living, groceries, entertainment, libraries, parks and shopping in walking distance. Newer suburbs were built around this to take advantage of all the nice restaurants and what not. They were inconveinent to live in. As the core of the city is dying of crime and dismal public schools, the suburbs are being abandoned as well.
The reason given for hiring these guys was not to find out actual damages, but to jack up the cleanup costs into a range where the hit qualified as a felony.
How do you know the motive? Did they say that themselves? If they did a judge should have spanked them. If they did it because they lacked the time or competence to asses the damages themselves, the cost should be passed on. I can't tell from here.
That's why we have courts and civil law. An unbiased third party is supposed to take care of things like this. Abuses of the system do not make the system evil any more than computer abuses make programing evil.
With that in mind, those four should be made to pay. It does not matter that they can not afford it. They can suffer for their the wrong they did. This happens all the time. Losers are often reduced to poverty for thinking like this. "Duh, I don't have nothing to lose, so what?" Wrong, you always have something to lose.
All of that is beside the point, however. I'm just wondering where all the John Ashcoft fans are.
Osama bin f-ing Ladin? (Just the thing to keep your satellite phone lit in the caves on those long winter nights in Nowhere, Afghanistan?)
Funny you should say that. I can imagine a similar conversation just twelve years ago.
Inventory clearance, Area 53, 1989
CLERK #1 (C1): Carbon composite toilet seats, 200?
CLERK #2(C@): Ship to Lockheed.
C1: Titanium hammers with gold anodized grips?
C2: Ship to General Dynamics.
C1: Portable fuel cells, 50, with starter pack, 500?
C2: Ship to OBL via Donkey Tain.
C1: What the fuck?
C2: Who cares, here are the lables.
Had this little worm come from Afganistan, the originating hut would have a bomb dropped on it. Hell, if these two had been US the response would be harsher. Where's all the "hacking is terrorism" rhetoric? I don't agree with talk like that, but it's funny that those who have been spouting off are not stepping up to demand punishment.
What would we think if real damage had been done? The hack was made easy by M$'s complete lack of security, and it did not do much damage because no one really trusts an M$ platform. But what if this had been a super new BIND attack with a nasty payload? Suppose it had installed backdoors in bank accounts that had been used to funnel money out of accounts?
At the very least, they should be held liable for the monetary damage. What they did was as deliberate and damaging as arson. Why not put a lien on their paychecks for years to come, payable to anyone who can prove damages?
Though I've seen plenty of "I'm a Mac user and I love Office" posts here, I've never met such a person. There were plenty of Mac users at the University I used to work for. The Apple people made a good deal with the bookstore and many people became users. All of the poor devils felt pressured to put M$ junk on their machines in the mid 90s. It was an unmittigated dissater for them. The next few years, with Apple under that Pepsi looser, were just awful for them. The Mac OSs saw a serries of changes of their own, but the combination of that with M$ junk on top, shudder. MS workd became word 6 then Office which became Office 97 and there were lots of format changes that were not reflected in the Mac versions. Patches and "upgrades" had a tendency to wreck their victims. Those that tried got burt really bad.
All these posts are frustrating to me, as they show just how effective M$ FUD is. There is no reason setting up and using a Linux box should be any more difficult than a M$ box. People have been taught to fear the CLI and learning anything at all about the machines they use. The lessons are reinforced by restrictive all the M$ anti-competitive practices that make devices difficult to use on any platform.
The M$ FUD machine has convined people they can't do anything for themselves. People are capable of and enjoy far more difficult persuits. Who out there is afraid of setting the gaps on their spark plugs and changing their oil? How about cooking? My mom knows how to prepare food as well as any trained chef. If people had the M$ no can do attitude about other things, they would be taking the public bus to McDonald's everyday. People underate their ability to get things done on a computer and M$ has been encouraging it for years. The touchier and more prone to failure their stuff is, the less likely anyone is to experiment. Then they wisper that M$ is a easy as it gets and act mysterious with their closed source, cost lots of money to learn junk.
Then there is the device driver issue. Why should a USB hrd drive be difficult to use? It could ship with little disk that does the whole kernel recompile if needed. But then big bad Bill would withhold vital API info and the M$ stamp of approval. The same tricks have been used to encourage non uniform interfaces to devices, depite the obvious saving of co-operation and standardization. How many different kinds of NE200 network cards are there, with all their goofey brand names? Thousands? Yet all can be run with a single linux driver. HA! The end result is stuff that does not work anywhere. Got an XP driver for that old winmodem? Good luck! Good luck getting information from the vendor if you feel like making a driver yoursel. Yet you can get a driver for a modem with brains that's Hayes compatible. Anyone doing PC set up and upkeep knows that the prommised simplicity of M$ junk is a lie. When you get down to it, the M$ world is much quirker and more difficult to penetrate.
People have been taught to believe that the CLI is "backward" and impossible. If that were really true, no one would use the tools we enjoy. Face it, our tools were made by very energetic people who would do just about anything to avoid work. Just about anything can be accomplished and automated by memorizing a few dozzen less words than a cat can remember. I don't consider myself so bright for being able to memorize them. I consider myself bright for understanding why I should. Small up front efforts taken save great effort later. I'm teaching my wife a few basic commands, one word at a time. She seemed to have gotten it last night. Instead of searching through a tree with a mouse she told me, "what, you just type the word? That's easy." Exactly.
With a little help from device manufacturers who want to sell more of their stuff, the world will get much easier very fast.
I just got stuck with this box at work. Where is this nice command shell hiding, and where can I get information on it? As you saw man was not working under the interpreter, and I doubt info will work either.
Could you remotely log into your DOS/Windows 3.* machine while someone else uses the console?
Yes, people used to run BBS.
Cause you can do that in Windows XP. Out of the box.
Wow, I'm impressed. I'm told they included a bare naked telnet server, whooo hoooo! This is almost as cool as running one of those stupid remote access programs that burns up so much bandwith and processor that it's worthless. I suppose someone might set up ssh and secure shell via citrix, but they could have done the same under win3.1.
Can you run your system on a very fast, robust, journaling filesystem? Cause NTFS is pretty damn good.
Yeah, IBM did think regular FAT was limited, but I'm talking about the OS not the file system under it. With enough work a DOS box can write to whatever media you want.
Does DOS/16-bit Windows have an SMP kernel? Does it support proper memory protection? Threads? No? Thought not.
These things are meaningless to the avererage M$ user. You must be some kind of Linux zelot talking all that tech/marketroid trash. Sometimes, I wish NT supported proper memory protection, UIDs and PIDs. When I really feel like that, I install a real OS.
It's a programable machine dude. People have been making them do all sorts of tricks for a long time. M$ has not, and still does not. Such a shame, it's so lame, you suck turd and nanny-nanny boo-boo, you just told me all about how M$ has sucked in the past.
Now before this gets modded into oblivion, just think about how fast the web is changing everything. People (other than gamers) aren't just using their computers for word processing, it's all about email,browsing,home finance, online banking, shopping. As the websites get larger and more complex, they suck up more space and memory on the computers.
That is so clueless, but to be expected from a cable troll. It's not about sucking down adverts and consuming, it's about expression and sharing. It's too bad cable companies block incoming port 80 and mail, as a set top box could easily be set up to run web, ftp, mail and instant messenger clients. That way, people could share the information they want with their friends. Wedding photos, hobbies, literature, all sorts of nice stuff without Pepsi adverts stuck on them, wow. My 486 does as much.
I've experienced this first hand with "Why is the internet so slow?" check the settings, and the person has 8MB o RAM running w95 and someone gave them a CD with I.E. 5.x and somehow they got the thing to kinda run. By the time they have to go out and get SIMMS enough to run the browser du jour (Opera notwithstanding) they might as well go out and get a whole new system for $700 USD.
Really, you should be a little nicer. Why would anyone throw out their $1,000 system that came loaded with software that prommised them the moon? They have every right to expect what they were told is true. Your company has told a few tall ones too! Who knows, the spy ware you installed might be the problem, as it enabled some script kiddie to bust right into it. The problem is not the machine, it's the software. What are you doing to help them out? Telling them to buy another pack of lies, that's what. No amount of tweeking will make an M$ crippled box secure, fast, dependable or lasting. Get off your leet horse, act honest and quit serving people who want to screw everyone.
If you don't want problems with Windows, the least you can do (besides not using it at all) is to use a relatively current version). I can only imagine the flaming if someone was on here complaining that their 1.3.21-based distribution had problems with their new hardware.
Good point. I'd never expect M$ software just to keep working or anything. I've got a nice new W2k box on my desk, but the year 2000 is almost two years ago. I don't have anything that old on any of my linux boxes. I'd better update my system fast, there's no telling what kind of exploitable holes the script kiddies have by now. Have to run command.com to get a prompt, but here we go:
Microsoft(R) Windows DOS
(C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1990-1999.
me thinks, "yikes it's older than I thought!"
H:\>apt-get update
'APT-GET' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
H:\>man apt
'MAN' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
Dude this sucks, I suppose I'll have to do what Billy G wants and buy a boxed set, but I'm kind of scared. Someone told me that upgrades are seledom lossless, and that most of my old software would be broken in subtle ways. Can anyone help my employer? This is terrible.
It's not abondonware, it's forced "upgrade" or forced sales. Just look at that goofey "lifecycle" page! What's the excuse for things not working after 4 years? Changing technology? Improvements in software? Right. Their language gives it all away.
The hardware underneath has not changed much. A month ago they celebrated the last of the 16 bit code again. That chunk of code could have run on an 8088, just like MS DOS 3.2 can run on my AthlonXP. The hardware folks have gone to great lenghts to maintain compatibility. In the same way I can move Linux hard disks around the room from a 486 to an Athlon and have it boot.
Where's the software improvement? Can anyone out there name one thing that I can do in XP that I could not do under Win3.1 or DOS? Movies, check, audio, check, ethernet, check, IP suite, check, instant messenger, check, dancing icons and goofey sounds, check. All of it was possible, despite the artificial 16Meg RAM limitations, under their dinky single user non multitasking software. Today, their dinky single user non multitasking softare acts much the same, but it's a little faster thanks to hardware improvements. Win 3.1 flies on the same hardware that 9x chokes with more code than it takes to fly the space shuttle. If bloat is improvement, OK, there has been some real change.
M$ would have you believe that you are a "consumer" of software and that bytes somehow go stale in time. I've never eaten a byte in my life. It's hard for me to believe that their non compatibility issues are anything but planned.
OK, I agree the public is going to lose here. Your map infromation is useful, but it should ALL be free, no?
Now that much of your work is halted, you should have plenty of resources available to fix the indian database problems. I feel your pain, but screwing up trust funds is a big big no no. Good luck fixing it. I imagine the holes were huge and from many directions for such a big order.
Hopefully, you will get some nice new software for all your desktops, non M$ of course. I mean, how many screen savers running are actually listening for passwords? How many Windoze computers were trusted by the servers? Getting rid of that stuff will be good for you and good for the taxpayers. =:> The world is watching!
Security is only as good as your weakest link. What good is a locked tight OpenBSD firewall if you run Outlook behind it and make your databases trust some brain dead M$ platform?
Security does not end on the server platform! It needs to be everwhere, and so there is no place for M$.
Blame the admin and the luser is not going to work here. Others may be slow to cast blame, but I'm willing to bet good money the company with the poorest security record and the biggest ugly mouth is responsible for this mess. Let's hope this display of Federal common sense is catching. I'm really sick of all the BS, "that patch has been available for months", and "lazy sysadmins", and "stupid user should not have double clicked this or that". The judge seems to have seen the results and cared less about why.
this is New York, it was an IT job... they all wanted Word or PDF
Who says the East Coast is not on the cutting edge of new technology technology? One of the best people I ever hired gave me his first resume written in pencil on paper. M$, be not proud.
A Word formated document from a programer is evidence of wasted resources. All it proves is they:
1. Spent time and money at a copy shop. Bowed to reality, working for the devil but not very hard.
2. Are wasting enough disk space for M$ Office. Lazy or stupidly unethical, it's either OEM or they got some LEET cracked trash from Cairo.
3. Have figured out how to install Star Office or some other program that has micros~.DOC format. Oh yeah, they also keep it up to date, AHHHH!
Send me a link, send me HTML, or just send me text (prefered) thank you. Fax, well OK, if you must. Word, PowerPoint and other useless chrome will be sent to/dev/null.
PacBell and ATT, phone companies, are more likely coincidences in this man's trail of doom. You don't really think the phone companies want cheap unlimited digital comunications, do you? If that existed and could be used as people saw fit, the phone companies would lose their ability to extort connection fees by the second. Go figure!
Other powerful interests opposed to the future are large publishers, governments, advertisers and all others want to tell you what to think. Free speech is not what these folks want. They want broadcast and money. If you don't consider propaganda and money equivalents, consider what a green piece of paper is really worth.
Slashdot Mirror
While I can't speak for up2daters, I know that Debian Maintainers would scream if anyone tampered with a mirrored version of their work. It would be reported at www.debian.org and here before you could say "reinstall" from trusted source. DNS attacks are evil, but they will be reported.
As you noted, enemies of freedom are happy to use all the tools others develop to secure their power. They have the freedom to choose, those under them do not.
I've more often heard that about M$ "products" here at work. Nice to see how large orgainzations have constants, regardless of who's in charge and what they say they think. If only there were something there about "empowerment".
From recent laws, outrageous patents and what not, it's more like when M$ is going to push "their" government to bully the world?
M$ delendo est.
As someone more clever than me pointed out, if you teach the compiler itself to make backdoors you can backdoor any system, even if the user recompiles the compiler.
The only difference between now, movable press, and a room full of monks is the cost involved. Lower costs made comercial publishing for entertainment possible. Now it's making it a difficult proposition again.
Oh well. Lately, it's the publishers that have enjoyed the proffits at the expense of the artist. Once upon a time someone like Poe could open up a magazine of his own and almost make a living at it. Hemingway, Thompson and others managed to get by. These days, forget it. Warner Brothers vrs. the author of Harry Potter, who's got the profits? When then the comercial rewards have become so poor, why not just give your work away? I've always enjoyed the works of love better anyhow. Hesiod, Homer, Virgil, Dante, RMS.
The danger comes from those who would keep you from sharing to protect their interests. This has happened before, but never on such a wide scale as popular culture. In the west, the church has fought specific puclications on natural philosophy and governments have fought political tracts. Today, however, many people can only hum tunes sold to them by five music publishers, have images placed into their heads by four different media giants, and so their very hopes and dreams forged by a small number of corporate interests. As these attack all forms of knowledge trasmision, including Public Libraries, private devices even private thoughts, and we might do best to avoid helping those who would tax us. Why not preferentially use free works?
Due to the message we received from the Exchange group, we recommend that you do not sync your palm pilot with Outlook until this mailbox data has been restored. Your palm pilot my contain the only available copy of this data. We will let you know when we receive an update from the Exchange group.
Thanks,
IT Field Services
-----Original Message-----
From: XXXXX
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:06 PM
To: Server XXX-XXXX
Subject: Virus Update
Importance: High
In an effort to purge Outlook on the gone.scr virus, inbox messages, contacts, task, etc with the characters "hi" in the subject line have been affected. Exchange is investigating the timeline to restore the data.
Thanks!
Exadmin
--End transmision--
Thanks indeed. I thought the rule message was a joke. Now I see just how powerful M$ Admin tools really are! Nice work, Exchange Group.
You have never been to Paris have you? With mixed use 7 floor construction, you really can have everything in walking distance. Subways are there for the elderly and infirm.
Some early US suburbs, like Uptown New Orleans, got it right too. It's a little more spread out, but there is no need for a car. Work was concentrated Downtown and on the river. A system of trolleys used to get people there who could not walk. The neighborhoods themselves had all the basics of living, groceries, entertainment, libraries, parks and shopping in walking distance. Newer suburbs were built around this to take advantage of all the nice restaurants and what not. They were inconveinent to live in. As the core of the city is dying of crime and dismal public schools, the suburbs are being abandoned as well.
How do you know the motive? Did they say that themselves? If they did a judge should have spanked them. If they did it because they lacked the time or competence to asses the damages themselves, the cost should be passed on. I can't tell from here.
That's why we have courts and civil law. An unbiased third party is supposed to take care of things like this. Abuses of the system do not make the system evil any more than computer abuses make programing evil.
With that in mind, those four should be made to pay. It does not matter that they can not afford it. They can suffer for their the wrong they did. This happens all the time. Losers are often reduced to poverty for thinking like this. "Duh, I don't have nothing to lose, so what?" Wrong, you always have something to lose.
All of that is beside the point, however. I'm just wondering where all the John Ashcoft fans are.
Funny you should say that. I can imagine a similar conversation just twelve years ago.
Inventory clearance, Area 53, 1989
CLERK #1 (C1): Carbon composite toilet seats, 200?
CLERK #2(C@): Ship to Lockheed.
C1: Titanium hammers with gold anodized grips?
C2: Ship to General Dynamics.
C1: Portable fuel cells, 50, with starter pack, 500?
C2: Ship to OBL via Donkey Tain.
C1: What the fuck?
C2: Who cares, here are the lables.
Sold!
Use your cue cat from Radio Shack. It knows everythign.
What would we think if real damage had been done? The hack was made easy by M$'s complete lack of security, and it did not do much damage because no one really trusts an M$ platform. But what if this had been a super new BIND attack with a nasty payload? Suppose it had installed backdoors in bank accounts that had been used to funnel money out of accounts?
At the very least, they should be held liable for the monetary damage. What they did was as deliberate and damaging as arson. Why not put a lien on their paychecks for years to come, payable to anyone who can prove damages?
that's not nice and it's not true either.
Though I've seen plenty of "I'm a Mac user and I love Office" posts here, I've never met such a person. There were plenty of Mac users at the University I used to work for. The Apple people made a good deal with the bookstore and many people became users. All of the poor devils felt pressured to put M$ junk on their machines in the mid 90s. It was an unmittigated dissater for them. The next few years, with Apple under that Pepsi looser, were just awful for them. The Mac OSs saw a serries of changes of their own, but the combination of that with M$ junk on top, shudder. MS workd became word 6 then Office which became Office 97 and there were lots of format changes that were not reflected in the Mac versions. Patches and "upgrades" had a tendency to wreck their victims. Those that tried got burt really bad.
The M$ FUD machine has convined people they can't do anything for themselves. People are capable of and enjoy far more difficult persuits. Who out there is afraid of setting the gaps on their spark plugs and changing their oil? How about cooking? My mom knows how to prepare food as well as any trained chef. If people had the M$ no can do attitude about other things, they would be taking the public bus to McDonald's everyday. People underate their ability to get things done on a computer and M$ has been encouraging it for years. The touchier and more prone to failure their stuff is, the less likely anyone is to experiment. Then they wisper that M$ is a easy as it gets and act mysterious with their closed source, cost lots of money to learn junk.
Then there is the device driver issue. Why should a USB hrd drive be difficult to use? It could ship with little disk that does the whole kernel recompile if needed. But then big bad Bill would withhold vital API info and the M$ stamp of approval. The same tricks have been used to encourage non uniform interfaces to devices, depite the obvious saving of co-operation and standardization. How many different kinds of NE200 network cards are there, with all their goofey brand names? Thousands? Yet all can be run with a single linux driver. HA! The end result is stuff that does not work anywhere. Got an XP driver for that old winmodem? Good luck! Good luck getting information from the vendor if you feel like making a driver yoursel. Yet you can get a driver for a modem with brains that's Hayes compatible. Anyone doing PC set up and upkeep knows that the prommised simplicity of M$ junk is a lie. When you get down to it, the M$ world is much quirker and more difficult to penetrate.
People have been taught to believe that the CLI is "backward" and impossible. If that were really true, no one would use the tools we enjoy. Face it, our tools were made by very energetic people who would do just about anything to avoid work. Just about anything can be accomplished and automated by memorizing a few dozzen less words than a cat can remember. I don't consider myself so bright for being able to memorize them. I consider myself bright for understanding why I should. Small up front efforts taken save great effort later. I'm teaching my wife a few basic commands, one word at a time. She seemed to have gotten it last night. Instead of searching through a tree with a mouse she told me, "what, you just type the word? That's easy." Exactly.
With a little help from device manufacturers who want to sell more of their stuff, the world will get much easier very fast.
Work is a big game anyway.
Yes, people used to run BBS.
Cause you can do that in Windows XP. Out of the box.
Wow, I'm impressed. I'm told they included a bare naked telnet server, whooo hoooo! This is almost as cool as running one of those stupid remote access programs that burns up so much bandwith and processor that it's worthless. I suppose someone might set up ssh and secure shell via citrix, but they could have done the same under win3.1. Can you run your system on a very fast, robust, journaling filesystem? Cause NTFS is pretty damn good.
Yeah, IBM did think regular FAT was limited, but I'm talking about the OS not the file system under it. With enough work a DOS box can write to whatever media you want.
Does DOS/16-bit Windows have an SMP kernel? Does it support proper memory protection? Threads? No? Thought not.
These things are meaningless to the avererage M$ user. You must be some kind of Linux zelot talking all that tech/marketroid trash. Sometimes, I wish NT supported proper memory protection, UIDs and PIDs. When I really feel like that, I install a real OS.
It's a programable machine dude. People have been making them do all sorts of tricks for a long time. M$ has not, and still does not. Such a shame, it's so lame, you suck turd and nanny-nanny boo-boo, you just told me all about how M$ has sucked in the past.
#!/usr/bin/perl
open(INFILE,"while () {
if ($_ eq "[SHUTDOWN]\r\n") {
exec("/sbin/shutdown -h now");
}
}
Let's see!
H:\>perl
'PERL' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
There you have it.
That is so clueless, but to be expected from a cable troll. It's not about sucking down adverts and consuming, it's about expression and sharing. It's too bad cable companies block incoming port 80 and mail, as a set top box could easily be set up to run web, ftp, mail and instant messenger clients. That way, people could share the information they want with their friends. Wedding photos, hobbies, literature, all sorts of nice stuff without Pepsi adverts stuck on them, wow. My 486 does as much.
I've experienced this first hand with "Why is the internet so slow?" check the settings, and the person has 8MB o RAM running w95 and someone gave them a CD with I.E. 5.x and somehow they got the thing to kinda run. By the time they have to go out and get SIMMS enough to run the browser du jour (Opera notwithstanding) they might as well go out and get a whole new system for $700 USD.
Really, you should be a little nicer. Why would anyone throw out their $1,000 system that came loaded with software that prommised them the moon? They have every right to expect what they were told is true. Your company has told a few tall ones too! Who knows, the spy ware you installed might be the problem, as it enabled some script kiddie to bust right into it. The problem is not the machine, it's the software. What are you doing to help them out? Telling them to buy another pack of lies, that's what. No amount of tweeking will make an M$ crippled box secure, fast, dependable or lasting. Get off your leet horse, act honest and quit serving people who want to screw everyone.
Good point. I'd never expect M$ software just to keep working or anything. I've got a nice new W2k box on my desk, but the year 2000 is almost two years ago. I don't have anything that old on any of my linux boxes. I'd better update my system fast, there's no telling what kind of exploitable holes the script kiddies have by now. Have to run command.com to get a prompt, but here we go:
Microsoft(R) Windows DOS
(C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1990-1999.
me thinks, "yikes it's older than I thought!"
H:\>apt-get update
'APT-GET' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
H:\>man apt
'MAN' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
Dude this sucks, I suppose I'll have to do what Billy G wants and buy a boxed set, but I'm kind of scared. Someone told me that upgrades are seledom lossless, and that most of my old software would be broken in subtle ways. Can anyone help my employer? This is terrible.
The hardware underneath has not changed much. A month ago they celebrated the last of the 16 bit code again. That chunk of code could have run on an 8088, just like MS DOS 3.2 can run on my AthlonXP. The hardware folks have gone to great lenghts to maintain compatibility. In the same way I can move Linux hard disks around the room from a 486 to an Athlon and have it boot.
Where's the software improvement? Can anyone out there name one thing that I can do in XP that I could not do under Win3.1 or DOS? Movies, check, audio, check, ethernet, check, IP suite, check, instant messenger, check, dancing icons and goofey sounds, check. All of it was possible, despite the artificial 16Meg RAM limitations, under their dinky single user non multitasking software. Today, their dinky single user non multitasking softare acts much the same, but it's a little faster thanks to hardware improvements. Win 3.1 flies on the same hardware that 9x chokes with more code than it takes to fly the space shuttle. If bloat is improvement, OK, there has been some real change.
M$ would have you believe that you are a "consumer" of software and that bytes somehow go stale in time. I've never eaten a byte in my life. It's hard for me to believe that their non compatibility issues are anything but planned.
Now that much of your work is halted, you should have plenty of resources available to fix the indian database problems. I feel your pain, but screwing up trust funds is a big big no no. Good luck fixing it. I imagine the holes were huge and from many directions for such a big order.
Hopefully, you will get some nice new software for all your desktops, non M$ of course. I mean, how many screen savers running are actually listening for passwords? How many Windoze computers were trusted by the servers? Getting rid of that stuff will be good for you and good for the taxpayers. =:> The world is watching!
Security does not end on the server platform! It needs to be everwhere, and so there is no place for M$.
Blame the admin and the luser is not going to work here. Others may be slow to cast blame, but I'm willing to bet good money the company with the poorest security record and the biggest ugly mouth is responsible for this mess. Let's hope this display of Federal common sense is catching. I'm really sick of all the BS, "that patch has been available for months", and "lazy sysadmins", and "stupid user should not have double clicked this or that". The judge seems to have seen the results and cared less about why.
Who says the East Coast is not on the cutting edge of new technology technology? One of the best people I ever hired gave me his first resume written in pencil on paper. M$, be not proud.
A Word formated document from a programer is evidence of wasted resources. All it proves is they:
1. Spent time and money at a copy shop. Bowed to reality, working for the devil but not very hard.
2. Are wasting enough disk space for M$ Office. Lazy or stupidly unethical, it's either OEM or they got some LEET cracked trash from Cairo.
3. Have figured out how to install Star Office or some other program that has micros~.DOC format. Oh yeah, they also keep it up to date, AHHHH!
Send me a link, send me HTML, or just send me text (prefered) thank you. Fax, well OK, if you must. Word, PowerPoint and other useless chrome will be sent to /dev/null.
Other powerful interests opposed to the future are large publishers, governments, advertisers and all others want to tell you what to think. Free speech is not what these folks want. They want broadcast and money. If you don't consider propaganda and money equivalents, consider what a green piece of paper is really worth.