10% network performance when playing media is a bad start to a host of other suckage. You may not have noticed further problems playing SD movies because those do not include all the resolution degrading tags of HD encoding. These kinds of restrictions are damming even if perfectly implemented, but M$ incompetence has created something no one wants. Only an astroturfer could ignore all of that.
As an astroturfer, Dave, you might be able to ask a relevant question. Do your bosses at M$ even use Vista or is this another one of those pawns and one night stand things? Really, I'd like to know what kind of deployment Vista has gotten in dog food city. It's one or two percent in the corporate world at large, is M$'s deployment twice that? Does the M$ deployment skew the average number? Small numbers are so sensitive to losses and gains.
Macs work, why bother with M$ style excuses for failure? The only thin that coming unglued here are the "popularity" excuse for poor M$ system security and people's blind faith in M$'s market dominance. Vista is just another point release of stale code and has been clobbered already, despite being so buggy that almost no one can stand to run it. The end is near for M$ when investors say things like this.
Because everyone thinks "You're being a dick; I, on the other hand, am airing a legitimate greivance."
That's why we have a first amendment that applies everywhere. Next thing you know, they will want to content filter the internet to eliminate "dicks". Oh yeah, they already do that. This shit is going to get worse before it gets better.
The individuals responsible for this corporate plunder and judicial extortion should be forced to pay, but probably won't. Society should not let McBride, Boiles and friends to keep their ill earned wealth and they should pay multiples back to discourage others. It's reasonably clear that they all knew they were full of shit but did what M$ asked because it paid well.
I know this is a different story than back then, but it's the same headline I know this is a different story than back then, but it's the same headline.
It's the same story too. M$'s lack of security has made it hard to share for the last 20 years.
At this point you can point out the billions of dollars being made by IBM, Red Hat and others who provide services for what they give away. If they want to get into specifics, you can talk about the great overall savings that come when everyone shares development tools and reasonable standards. Instead of nickel and diming everone to death over SDKs and Office suites, free software vendors concentrate on getting real work done. Ultimately it works because the cost of copying things is close to zero.
This is BECTA's final report, the result of a two year study. Last year, they practically begged M$ for case studies and pilot projects to prove Vista's worth. There are only two reasons M$ failed to answer BECTA's concerns:
VISTA and Office 2007 are not cost justified.
The UK school system is too small a customer for M$ to worry about.
M$ does not care about the study and they can push their software onto the UK school system anyway. This one is really condition #1.
It's amazing that M$ did not just fund some more "Get the facts" style reports and make a case.
Your joke is more of the same kind of arrogance. It's too bad you feel that way, but it's OK because a person can only disgrace themselves. Anger management and an honest job might help.
The FCC is not going to be a very good regulator while it's being punished for industry corruption. Do you think they will be able to stop China style internet filtering (2, 3, 4). A reasonable agency would have taken action against port blocks and fined the company responsible for network flooding and endagering insecurity and spam. The entire industry is conspiring to impede and censor communications and the Federal Communications Commission is supposed to prevent that. It's obvious that they are being slapped down because the new chairman is doing something industry does not want.
Spending good money after bad is harmful. Many company continue to use Windows on the desktop when they could virtualize their existing software and jump off the upgrade train. They will pay a price for that.
Mac OS X is the success of Unix on the desktop, period.
That's true but it's not the end of the story. You can also say it's the success of BSD, GCC and KDE on the desktop.
The problem is that Apple won't deliver software freedom. There's more to a computer than a GUI and free software delivers more of what users want the computer to do. OSX out of the box does not do sftp and many other useful things. One company can make a comfortable experience, especially when they are helping themselves to generous servings of free software, but they can't match what freedom delivers. Ultimately it's a pretty and comfortable cage.
A line has been drawn in the sand and everyone will be on one side or the other. M$ has just declared war on html. Things don't get more fundamental than that. Self preservation now compels everyone to abandon M$ and fast. If you think things are expensive and difficult now, just wait till M$ owns all your information and entertainment.
If it does Google proof M$.com, everyone in IT is going to have to use use another search engine when fixing Winblows problems. I hope this backfires by making it that much harder to find fixes in M$'s knowledge base. If there were not enough reasons to dump Windoze, this has to be final insult.
Sometime soon, expect Flash to develop serious problems on M$ platforms. This is par for the anti-competitive course and will also directly impact Google as well as Adobe. Breaking banner ads will harm both's revenue stream but help M$'s. Google gets it twice as killer sites like YouTube will be impacted. It's grand how M$'s new moves work so well against M$'s perceived competitors.
M$ is at war with reasonable standards, like html, so they can monopolize ALL revenue streams associated with computing. If that was not apparent before it is now. Everyone in tech and media now have two options: adopt free software or accept what scraps M$ sees fit to deliver you. The more in control M$ is, the harder things get.
All of this should add up to a giant anti-trust from Google and Adobe. It's clear they are being targeted. Vista/Silverlight is to Google what like Windows9x/IE were to Netscape times ten and they should not be allowed to get away with it this time.
Crappy year after crappy year after crappy year... yet somehow, here we are and you'd have to drag me kicking and screaming back to the year 2000's technology. Somehow, the "crappy year" math doesn't add up.
It adds up if you are a Windows user and want to do something new or want better performance with all that fancy new hardware. Is there anything Vista does that you could not do with XP, W2K or 98... 3.1 even? All Vista brings to the table is a second rate GUI, DRM and massive hardware requirements.
At the same time, the free software world has surpassed everything M$ has to offer in network service, productivity even GUIs. Beryl, E17, E16, Gnome2, KDE4 and others have great eye candy Vista can't match. File service, sharing and remote usage have always been good but now they have easy and stable GUIs so that anyone can use them. Gnome, KDE, Mozilla and Google now offer everything you need for document creation, PIM and groupware.
Could the United States being in a state of recession have anything to do with Vista's slow growth?
No, people really don't like Vista and winners are leaving M$ all together. The US never emerged from the tech crash of the late 90's. 9/11 pushed things down further right after XP was released. Crap like ACPI and Vista's DRM have nuked what's left of the PC market and it's left people frustrated as the promises of the early 90's go unmet. The overwhelming demand for Firefox shows that people are interested in performance and will go out of their way to obtain it. Macs and GNU/Linux are filling the void. Macs and GNU/Linux are filling the void. The emergence of Google and other free software using success stories shows what can be done outside of M$.
M$ is a dotbomb that is just taking longer than the others to fail.
The issue with Microsoft dependency is a long-standing problem having to do with extremely long certification processes.
There is something wrong with a certification process that takes forever but manages to certify any one of the googazillion versions of any Microsoft "product". These change frequently and can never be found in the same exact combination on more than one given machine.
the ever-dreadful "convert now or fall forever" attitude will never yield anything meaningful.
I don't expect anything meaningful or useful to emerge from M$. Those who do must continue to press and ignore people like you. You don't get what you want by pretending you want something else. Either way, Vista has proved that non free software development is a loser and this game is almost over.
it definitely is the case that Microsoft *is* making an effort...not just looking like.
Fab, M$ is making an effort to look more open. They will be open when they publish their source code. That will be useful when they allow people to modify that code for their own purposes and share those modifications.
I suppose that's what the M$ intra web looks like. IE8 is vaporware, designed to placate developers and regulators. This kind of support should have been built into IE7 or even 6 because developers have been asking for it for years. Does anyone trust M$ to deliver anything but more lock in? No, I don't like looking at the kind of pictures found on the M$ interweb. Keep them to yourself, OK?
There's no accounting for taste, but I suppose Vista is a step up from a set top DVD player, toaster, brick, bed of nails or sharp stick in the eye. Is it the 12 hour uptime or the ability to watch HD DVDs on your Zune?
Of course you feel fine, because you are nothing more than a PR harassment drone pretending to be BRLUG member Will Hill. Developer, what a laugh. Not even Will Hill lables himself a developer.
But what do you really think of the damage M$ has inflicted on the PC market with Vista? 10% sounds like a lot, but M$'s predictions were in line with retirement expectations for old hardware and much greater than that. This means that people are not purchasing new computers because it's hard for them to avoid Vista. Sales are down, shops like CompUSA are going out of business and people are losing their jobs because M$ pandered to media interests instead of user interests. How about that, asswipe?
The death of the upgrade train gang pales next to damage done to internet commerce, computer hardware, reasonable standards and people who advocate them. You work for dirtbags. How much do they pay you for your efforts/pride?
Is there anyone outside of M$ that has said anything good about Vista? PCWorld said a few good things but their overall dissapointment carries weight because of their past enthusiasm. What this means is that Vista is so bad that anyone daring to defend it risks their credibility.
the web-based model falls flat as soon as people actually look at what is available for free.
No, some things work better when they are run by an independent third party over the web. Other companies are going to run Google style services on their own but Google has a head start and important mind share. The value of networks is a product of the number of participants and there's lots of collaborative work that Google can offer. User and technical groups, for example, are best run independently of any single company. Schmidt has it right when he says individual tools and Google services are complementary. The only real threat this poses to M$ is a way around M$'s file format lock in, but even there Google is using free formats that M$ can use. M$ can only see Google services as a real threat if they have zero confidence in their ability to compete in a free market (they can't so they are right, ha ha).
People who play nice are going to win. Google is playing nice and they are going to Fucking Kill (TM, Steve Ballmer) M$. If Google quits playing nice, someone else will use the same free tools to run Google out of business.
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10% network performance when playing media is a bad start to a host of other suckage. You may not have noticed further problems playing SD movies because those do not include all the resolution degrading tags of HD encoding. These kinds of restrictions are damming even if perfectly implemented, but M$ incompetence has created something no one wants. Only an astroturfer could ignore all of that.
As an astroturfer, Dave, you might be able to ask a relevant question. Do your bosses at M$ even use Vista or is this another one of those pawns and one night stand things? Really, I'd like to know what kind of deployment Vista has gotten in dog food city. It's one or two percent in the corporate world at large, is M$'s deployment twice that? Does the M$ deployment skew the average number? Small numbers are so sensitive to losses and gains.
Reports are already coming in, but it's hard to separate them from the usual Windoze weirdness. The murder of XP is well underway.
Last time Slashdot looked, there was no performance improvement from SP1. If you want features, use gnu/linux.
Macs work, why bother with M$ style excuses for failure? The only thin that coming unglued here are the "popularity" excuse for poor M$ system security and people's blind faith in M$'s market dominance. Vista is just another point release of stale code and has been clobbered already, despite being so buggy that almost no one can stand to run it. The end is near for M$ when investors say things like this.
Because everyone thinks "You're being a dick; I, on the other hand, am airing a legitimate greivance."
That's why we have a first amendment that applies everywhere. Next thing you know, they will want to content filter the internet to eliminate "dicks". Oh yeah, they already do that. This shit is going to get worse before it gets better.
The individuals responsible for this corporate plunder and judicial extortion should be forced to pay, but probably won't. Society should not let McBride, Boiles and friends to keep their ill earned wealth and they should pay multiples back to discourage others. It's reasonably clear that they all knew they were full of shit but did what M$ asked because it paid well.
I know this is a different story than back then, but it's the same headline I know this is a different story than back then, but it's the same headline.
It's the same story too. M$'s lack of security has made it hard to share for the last 20 years.
At this point you can point out the billions of dollars being made by IBM, Red Hat and others who provide services for what they give away. If they want to get into specifics, you can talk about the great overall savings that come when everyone shares development tools and reasonable standards. Instead of nickel and diming everone to death over SDKs and Office suites, free software vendors concentrate on getting real work done. Ultimately it works because the cost of copying things is close to zero.
This is BECTA's final report, the result of a two year study. Last year, they practically begged M$ for case studies and pilot projects to prove Vista's worth. There are only two reasons M$ failed to answer BECTA's concerns:
It's amazing that M$ did not just fund some more "Get the facts" style reports and make a case.
Your joke is more of the same kind of arrogance. It's too bad you feel that way, but it's OK because a person can only disgrace themselves. Anger management and an honest job might help.
The FCC is not going to be a very good regulator while it's being punished for industry corruption. Do you think they will be able to stop China style internet filtering (2, 3, 4). A reasonable agency would have taken action against port blocks and fined the company responsible for network flooding and endagering insecurity and spam. The entire industry is conspiring to impede and censor communications and the Federal Communications Commission is supposed to prevent that. It's obvious that they are being slapped down because the new chairman is doing something industry does not want.
No I won't.
Spending good money after bad is harmful. Many company continue to use Windows on the desktop when they could virtualize their existing software and jump off the upgrade train. They will pay a price for that.
Mac OS X is the success of Unix on the desktop, period.
That's true but it's not the end of the story. You can also say it's the success of BSD, GCC and KDE on the desktop.
The problem is that Apple won't deliver software freedom. There's more to a computer than a GUI and free software delivers more of what users want the computer to do. OSX out of the box does not do sftp and many other useful things. One company can make a comfortable experience, especially when they are helping themselves to generous servings of free software, but they can't match what freedom delivers. Ultimately it's a pretty and comfortable cage.
A line has been drawn in the sand and everyone will be on one side or the other. M$ has just declared war on html. Things don't get more fundamental than that. Self preservation now compels everyone to abandon M$ and fast. If you think things are expensive and difficult now, just wait till M$ owns all your information and entertainment.
If it does Google proof M$.com, everyone in IT is going to have to use use another search engine when fixing Winblows problems. I hope this backfires by making it that much harder to find fixes in M$'s knowledge base. If there were not enough reasons to dump Windoze, this has to be final insult.
Sometime soon, expect Flash to develop serious problems on M$ platforms. This is par for the anti-competitive course and will also directly impact Google as well as Adobe. Breaking banner ads will harm both's revenue stream but help M$'s. Google gets it twice as killer sites like YouTube will be impacted. It's grand how M$'s new moves work so well against M$'s perceived competitors.
M$ is at war with reasonable standards, like html, so they can monopolize ALL revenue streams associated with computing. If that was not apparent before it is now. Everyone in tech and media now have two options: adopt free software or accept what scraps M$ sees fit to deliver you. The more in control M$ is, the harder things get.
All of this should add up to a giant anti-trust from Google and Adobe. It's clear they are being targeted. Vista/Silverlight is to Google what like Windows9x/IE were to Netscape times ten and they should not be allowed to get away with it this time.
Crappy year after crappy year after crappy year... yet somehow, here we are and you'd have to drag me kicking and screaming back to the year 2000's technology. Somehow, the "crappy year" math doesn't add up.
It adds up if you are a Windows user and want to do something new or want better performance with all that fancy new hardware. Is there anything Vista does that you could not do with XP, W2K or 98 ... 3.1 even? All Vista brings to the table is a second rate GUI, DRM and massive hardware requirements.
At the same time, the free software world has surpassed everything M$ has to offer in network service, productivity even GUIs. Beryl, E17, E16, Gnome2, KDE4 and others have great eye candy Vista can't match. File service, sharing and remote usage have always been good but now they have easy and stable GUIs so that anyone can use them. Gnome, KDE, Mozilla and Google now offer everything you need for document creation, PIM and groupware.
Could the United States being in a state of recession have anything to do with Vista's slow growth?
No, people really don't like Vista and winners are leaving M$ all together. The US never emerged from the tech crash of the late 90's. 9/11 pushed things down further right after XP was released. Crap like ACPI and Vista's DRM have nuked what's left of the PC market and it's left people frustrated as the promises of the early 90's go unmet. The overwhelming demand for Firefox shows that people are interested in performance and will go out of their way to obtain it. Macs and GNU/Linux are filling the void. Macs and GNU/Linux are filling the void. The emergence of Google and other free software using success stories shows what can be done outside of M$.
M$ is a dotbomb that is just taking longer than the others to fail.
The issue with Microsoft dependency is a long-standing problem having to do with extremely long certification processes.
There is something wrong with a certification process that takes forever but manages to certify any one of the googazillion versions of any Microsoft "product". These change frequently and can never be found in the same exact combination on more than one given machine.
the ever-dreadful "convert now or fall forever" attitude will never yield anything meaningful.
I don't expect anything meaningful or useful to emerge from M$. Those who do must continue to press and ignore people like you. You don't get what you want by pretending you want something else. Either way, Vista has proved that non free software development is a loser and this game is almost over.
it definitely is the case that Microsoft *is* making an effort...not just looking like.
Fab, M$ is making an effort to look more open. They will be open when they publish their source code. That will be useful when they allow people to modify that code for their own purposes and share those modifications.
Windows is about 20 years old. You would think they could copy files by now.
I suppose that's what the M$ intra web looks like. IE8 is vaporware, designed to placate developers and regulators. This kind of support should have been built into IE7 or even 6 because developers have been asking for it for years. Does anyone trust M$ to deliver anything but more lock in? No, I don't like looking at the kind of pictures found on the M$ interweb. Keep them to yourself, OK?
There's no accounting for taste, but I suppose Vista is a step up from a set top DVD player, toaster, brick, bed of nails or sharp stick in the eye. Is it the 12 hour uptime or the ability to watch HD DVDs on your Zune?
Of course you feel fine, because you are nothing more than a PR harassment drone pretending to be BRLUG member Will Hill. Developer, what a laugh. Not even Will Hill lables himself a developer.
But what do you really think of the damage M$ has inflicted on the PC market with Vista? 10% sounds like a lot, but M$'s predictions were in line with retirement expectations for old hardware and much greater than that. This means that people are not purchasing new computers because it's hard for them to avoid Vista. Sales are down, shops like CompUSA are going out of business and people are losing their jobs because M$ pandered to media interests instead of user interests. How about that, asswipe?
The death of the upgrade train gang pales next to damage done to internet commerce, computer hardware, reasonable standards and people who advocate them. You work for dirtbags. How much do they pay you for your efforts/pride?
Is there anyone outside of M$ that has said anything good about Vista? PCWorld said a few good things but their overall dissapointment carries weight because of their past enthusiasm. What this means is that Vista is so bad that anyone daring to defend it risks their credibility.
the web-based model falls flat as soon as people actually look at what is available for free.
No, some things work better when they are run by an independent third party over the web. Other companies are going to run Google style services on their own but Google has a head start and important mind share. The value of networks is a product of the number of participants and there's lots of collaborative work that Google can offer. User and technical groups, for example, are best run independently of any single company. Schmidt has it right when he says individual tools and Google services are complementary. The only real threat this poses to M$ is a way around M$'s file format lock in, but even there Google is using free formats that M$ can use. M$ can only see Google services as a real threat if they have zero confidence in their ability to compete in a free market (they can't so they are right, ha ha).
People who play nice are going to win. Google is playing nice and they are going to Fucking Kill (TM, Steve Ballmer) M$. If Google quits playing nice, someone else will use the same free tools to run Google out of business.